Root Access

satibel

6:07 AM

@Rahul2001 telnet

Rahul2001

@satibel telnet can send post requests?

@Bob Disabled at school

Bob

@Rahul2001 So? Just download the standalone zip

satibel

@Rahul2001 telnet sends whatever you ask it to.

type :

telnet [ip/address] [port]

the port is generally 80

then type your post request.

POST /path/script.cgi HTTP/1.0
From: frog@jmarshall.com
User-Agent: HTTPTool/1.0
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Content-Length: 32

home=Cosby&favorite+flavor=flies

example

Rahul2001

@satibel Okay, thanks!

satibel

you should be able to use

telnet [ip/address] [port] <[file]

Rahul2001

6:18 AM

Yep :D

Hm, I can use netcat to also do the same thing, right?

satibel

probably, but telnet is already included with windows.

Rahul2001

@satibel It's disabled by default

satibel

not on XP

:p

Rahul2001

Eh, school has 8.1 and 10

satibel

wow

Rahul2001

6:21 AM

Yep :-)

We're getting new PCs assembled as we speak, it's holidays right now, but being the geek that I am, I'm sitting in school, setting up a renderfarm

satibel

x)

I had found a breach in my high school security, and was tempted for some time to use it as a botnet

~700 computers on a gigabit connection, what could possibly go wrong?

also putty is portable and can do the trick. stackoverflow.com/questions/7553005/…

Bob

@Rahul2001 Whitelist or blacklist?

satibel

@Bob it's just not installed

Bob

Blacklists are absolutely trivial to bypass. Whitelists are harder.

satibel

not blacklist nor whitelist, just it isn't installed.

Bob

6:27 AM

@satibel I'm asking about their filtering policy in general.

If it's a blacklist, just grab some random standalone copy. Or DIY.

@Rahul2001 github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/releases/download/… or github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/releases/download/…

Rahul2001

@Bob It's disabled in Windows

I can possibloy use PuTTY

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Rahul2001 Can you execute programs from a USB stick?

Bob

@Rahul2001 If you can just run arbitrary programs (i.e. there does not exist a whitelist), then just grab powershell ffs

or curl if you must

Rahul2001

@Bob Wha... Just, uh, copy powershell.exe? Does that even work?

@GypsySpellweaver I can, yes

Bob

trying to manually construct an HTTP req w/ telnet is just ... a bad idea for anything except a learning experience and a lesson in what not to use for anything remotely serious

Gypsy Spellweaver

6:35 AM

Try using PortableApps portableapps.com with Putty on it portableapps.com/apps/internet/putty_portable

Rahul2001

@Bob Well, this isn't very serious.

Bob

@Rahul2001 No. Go to the link I gave you. Download the standalone zip corresponding to your OS version. Extract. Run.

@Rahul2001 By "serious" I mean anything you intend to use more than once in your life.

Rahul2001

@Bob Ah...

Bob

telnet et al. for HTTP requests is useful for one of two things:
1. Learning how HTTP works
2. Maybe some lightweight debugging of a server issue

It should never, ever, be incorporated into a larger script/system for use

Rahul2001

@Bob I just need to let the server know when the render is complete

Bob

6:37 AM

@Rahul2001 And depending on the server it might not work not or it might not work if the server ever changes or ...

satibel

@Bob telnet is great if you want to try stuff that isn't really HTTP on an HTTP Server

Bob

Even the example request you were given might not work - lots of servers now require at least the Host header

Which @satibel's example did not include

Rahul2001

@Bob Eh, I control the server

Bob

You might miscalculate Content-Length

God forbid TLS ever become necessary

Gypsy Spellweaver

Using PortableApps you can make a stick with all your programs, even email and browser, with the files and bookmarks saved on the stick, not on the computer you plug it into.

Bob

6:38 AM

Here, you have two (three) choices:

satibel

@Bob true I "might" (I will) "miscalculate" Content-Length (to find some buffer under/overflows.)

Bob

1. Waste time and effort on a fragile solution with telnet/etc.
2. Use an existing library/program (curl, wget, etc)

PS was the 'third' because while it's technically much heaver than curl it also gets you away from cmd and its terrible scripting environment

@GypsySpellweaver I've never really trusted PA, tbh. The people packing the programs don't always do agreat job - I've seen reg entries and temp files left over.

satibel

fun stuff: in my university they knew when we were using a live cd, because it messed with the network.

Bob

If you want something properly isolated, Spoon is more reliable (and pricier?)

PortableApps is half-arsed in comparison

user226528

@satibel And the UTC clock.

Bob

6:42 AM

Except for the few programs that natively support a portable mode anyway

@Rahul2001 Basically, you have a number of ways you can do it. Telnet is probably the worst of all available options.

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob He's not trying to hide from the system, just trying to use tools they don't have enabled/installed.

Bob

There is literally no advantage to doing so.

@GypsySpellweaver Yes, in which case any standalone program would work, and PortableApps is still fairly pointless

About the only thing they do decently is the browser. Which probably isn't necessary either, here.

satibel

I used thinapp because it was free with the vmware partner program.

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Rahul2001 If all you want to do at the moment is send a POST to the server, why not create a webpage locally that has the proper <form > in it and let that do the POST, with all it's length calculations and such.

Click SUBMIT when it's done, and it sends the POST for you.

Bob

Which isn't scriptable.

Well, it's sorta-kinda scriptable but if you try to create an auto-submitting webpage purely to launch from cmd, while ignoring all the better ways, I'm gonna find a way to go over there and slap you

Journeyman Geek

7:00 AM

@Rahul2001 Python + requests the last time I mucked with it

and if I could do it...

and IIRC you can compile python to an exe too

Bob

Or you could just, y'know, run python raw, because apparently there's actually no restrictions on these systems

but that's even more overkill

in terms of complexity? curl wins. always.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob wasn't there someone asking about that sorta thing a few days back?

I think I confused the hell out of him

Bob

if you actually need to manipulate the data? toss-up between bash+curl, powershell, python. depends what you want to do.

actually making a web request in python has a fair bit of boilerplate

parsing text in bash/coreutils is alright but not great

powershell syntax sucks

pick your poison

python is better for complex stuff, which makes the boilerplate worth it

powershell is more in line with windows tools in general (and iwr is close enough to curl), bash is more in line with linux tools

cmd should be avoided as long as there's an alternative that's not VB-based

@JourneymanGeek I don't remember

Rahul2001

@GypsySpellweaver Gonna have to automate it... VBS? :P

@Bob VBS XD

@Bob I've been unable to get wget to send a POST request. Been trying since yesterday

Gypsy Spellweaver

@JourneymanGeek Could that have been the one trying to download data about test scores (Olympiad)?

Bob

7:15 AM

@Rahul2001 Use curl then?

Journeyman Geek

Yeah that guy

Bob

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Q: How can I use wget to send POST data?

I want to make following POST request to my server using wget: email=abc@abc.com&file1=@FILE_HERE&file2=@FILE_HERE In the above request, there are three POST parameters called email , file1 and file2 where email contains email of user and file1 , file2 contain a file. How can I send it using...

@Rahul2001 ew. download that powershell zip. extract it. use powershell. ditch vbs and never speak of it again.

satibel

@Bob batch isn't vb based :3

Gypsy Spellweaver

@JourneymanGeek Ever find out it he was getting his own test scores or trying to gather several student's scores?

Journeyman Geek

Looked like the later.

Well all the students

Gypsy Spellweaver

7:18 AM

Too much PII involved, and I left.

Bob

@satibel "batch" is cmd

satibel

oh, I didn't understand what you said well enough.

Bob

and it is the most ridiculous thing I've seen. it closes and reopens the file every line. it expands variables at parse time

it's just full of wtfs

the real wtf is people trying to create anything more complex than a list of commands in it

satibel

@Bob depends if you have delayed expansion or not

Bob

(...and, yes, I am one of those people)

satibel

7:24 AM

you can have "functions" in batch, that's already good enough 😋

Bob

@satibel I'm aware of the ways around it.

doesn't bring it out of the "wtf" category

satibel

also you can do some ugly tricks by modifying the code while it runs.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob Feels like we need a car analogy ;)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I don't know enough cars :(

Rahul2001

@Bob I don't know enough powershell :(

Bob

7:28 AM

cmd is a reliant robin someone tried to turn into a convertible by cutting the top half off

satibel

I've made a batch that makes a task paralellizable on multiple computers using a shared file as a lock. the real wtf it that it works reliably.

Bob

@Rahul2001 you're better off learning ps than vbs, tbh

Rahul2001

@Bob That's... probably true

user226528

Is it just me, or has there been a surge in the number of review audits today?

user226528

And here comes another... What kind of sane person would think this question is unclear? superuser.com/review/close/638748

Burgi

7:42 AM

morning

Bob

hoot

user226528

Hi.

Burgi

@Bob jerk ;)

Bob

:P

user226528

Now, now! Be nice. He's your friend. (Or maybe she. I don't know.)

Burgi

7:50 AM

@FleetCommand i did add a smiley....

user226528

@Burgi And I didn't flag your comment for moderator's attention.

Burgi

i put the radio on and it drowned out the owl

its sometimes hard to gauge you @FleetCommand :)

user226528

There an old saying:
The dog that barks doesn’t bite.

Burgi

that is an odd turn of phrase

user226528

Yeah. But JG loves canine speech.

Burgi

8:02 AM

the workplace HNQ always make me despair at humanity

user226528

Why?

Burgi

7

Q: How do I convince my employer to take my mention of resignation seriously?

I've had huge work life balance issues with my boss over the past year or so, as noted in previous posts. For background, it's a small company and I'm the only employee. Finally after giving a few points and ultimatums about 6 months ago, nothing has changed, and I don't feel it will meaningful...

quitting

user226528

Well, I have said it in this chatroom before: I left and never returned. So, I am sure I am taken quite seriously.

Burgi

that was pretty much my reaction

Journeyman Geek

@FleetCommand barking dogs do not bite. For if they bit you, they'd have their mouth full

user226528

8:08 AM

@JourneymanGeek Thanks, I guess.

Journeyman Geek

heh

Picked up watchdogs 2....

Burgi

i still haven't played the first one yet

Journeyman Geek

the game world is rediculously huge (to the point where I use fast travel a lot, and I don't use the fast travel much in open world games) and unlike the first one, the main charecters arn't total sociopaths

and for someone who hates jumping puzzles, environmental puzzles are awesome.

Rahul2001

8:27 AM

@JourneymanGeek Watchdogs :P

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 played that, sleeping dogs....

Rahul2001

I get a tooth extracted today :(

Burgi

you are 15, why on earth are you getting a tooth out?

Rahul2001

@Burgi braces

Get another tooth out on thursday

Burgi

fair enough

Rahul2001

8:34 AM

@Burgi It's gonna hurt :(

I had an intense make out session today though, so that should get me through it :P

2

jokerdino

._.

Journeyman Geek

._.

TOWMN

._.

@Bob :-(

satibel

@Burgi I got 4 teeth out at the same time when I was 15 (because they were sideways.)

TOWMN

Eww wonky teeth people

Bob

8:47 AM

@TOWMN ?

@Rahul2001 ._.

TOWMN

@Bob vbs is the first visual scripting language I learnt

Oh @bob, I bought an i9506

Bob

@TOWMN o.O

Rahul2001

@satibel Does it hurt a lot?

Bob

S4?

Journeyman Geek

I had an extra tooth pulled out from behind a premolar

TOWMN

8:49 AM

@Bob yeah. LTE-A edition

Bob

Ugh. Every time I see a comment that tells people to reseat their network cards I have to double-check the question isn't asking about decade-old hardware.

Heck, decade-old hardware would have onboard ports.

@TOWMN any particular reason? :S

TOWMN

@Bob I broke the screen on my S4 again, and figured it was too much effort and not worth the time to fix it again so I'd just replace it

And both my second and third SIMs are on networks that use LTE-A CA

djsmiley2k

how you breaking em

Bob

@TOWMN With another S4? :S

djsmiley2k

i've had a s4 for like 3 years and not broke it once :/

TOWMN

8:53 AM

So I figured I might as well, instead of switching SIMs every time I want to use CA on my backup phone

Bob

Why not a newer phone? :P

TOWMN

It's only Cat 4, but my secondary networks only use Cat 3 and Cat 4 anyway so it works out perfectly fine

@Bob yeah probably not the best choice given how many S4 displays I've broken. But I'll buy a screen protector this time.

Bob

@TOWMN how much did it cost?

TOWMN

Well it's cheap, does everything I need, and is small enough not to be obtrusive. Also the whole Samsung service mode advanced debugging functionality

satibel

@Rahul2001 a bit, but more annoying is needing to only drink.

Bob

8:54 AM

@TOWMN Oh yea. The service mods is a big point for it. I still haven't figured out how to do that on the Xperia -_-

Journeyman Geek

@TOWMN I suggest the cheapest klunkiest case you can find

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Just glue a few pieces of styrofoam to it

TOWMN

@Bob £70-ish? Used obviously.

Bob

@TOWMN Huh. Nice.

TOWMN

@Bob I remember reading a guide somewhere to do it on xperias but now I got my xperia back I can't find it for the life of me

Bob

8:56 AM

@TOWMN lemme know if you ever find it

TOWMN

@Bob my more-than-decade-old-hardware had two on board network ports but I added a third with a PCI card anyway when I turned it into a router/server

Bob

the only thing I use that phone for is a hotspot anyawy

$600 hotspot -_-

But hey it does cat9/3xCA and dual-SIM and supports all the bands I need

TOWMN

I tend to find all the newer phones with LTE-A are either excessively large flagship phones or expensive Xperia X Compacts

@Bob lol

3xCA clearly isn't enough in Oz.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I have a few network cards lying around

Fast ethernet ._.

Bob

It was also like the only cat9 phone that did dual-4G/3G

TOWMN

8:58 AM

That or it's backhaul limited. I need more inside knowledge on AU mobile networks I think

Bob

@JourneymanGeek yea, I do too

but it's not something to assume for random $asker

TOWMN

I have a few lying around but no main board I can plug them in to

Journeyman Geek

Though if I go the DIY router route, I'm going the aliexpress quad-port route

Bob

@TOWMN Pretty sure it's backhaul limited

You can see speeds take a sharp dive around peak hour

Journeyman Geek

@TOWMN I have something I can use, other than the lack of video card.

Bob

8:59 AM

it gets worse if there's a delayed train

Journeyman Geek

;p

TOWMN

Oh I do have a USB GbE adapter or two, for my old Lenovo convertible that didn't have an Ethernet port

Bob

on that one day when they basically shut down trains for a few hours, LTE was basically unusable

TOWMN

@Bob weird. Then again Aus is pretty much expected to be the opposite of the UK

Journeyman Geek

@TOWMN I was toying with buying one for the Stealth

Bob

9:00 AM

@TOWMN Funnily enough, I recently got one just for my Lenovo convertible...

TOWMN

Here they don't bother deploying CA or more than 20Mhz BW unless the backhaul is upgraded first.

Bob

but it's only 100mbit

TOWMN

Usually means minimum of GbE and usually only 10GbE sites get 3x20 CA

Bob

@TOWMN oh they're actually smart about it? :P

TOWMN

@Bob no, just the opposite of Aus about it

"smart" would be to deploy CA on spectrum limited sites too not just places where it's easy to fit 10GbE

djsmiley2k

9:02 AM

the menu shows +5

i click, and I've got two +10s o_O

how do you even get a +5?

Journeyman Geek

question upvote

iirc

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek yep

TOWMN

If it were "smart" I wouldn't have situations where I'd go from 3Mbps to 220Mbps by waving my finger

Bob

@TOWMN -_-

well, waving finger's better than tapping finger, I guess

satibel

@TOWMN what is CA?

for me it's either CyanoAcrylate or Certificate Authority

Bob

9:14 AM

@satibel Carrier Aggregation (see: LTE-A)

TOWMN

@satibel creepy asians

@Bob well tapping finger is more consistent and controllable

Journeyman Geek

@TOWMN do you resemble that remark?

TOWMN

@JourneymanGeek yes

@MichaelFrank What if I already do?

@MichaelFrank @Bob I asked my first question!

0

Q: How do I level up my CPU?

I want to level up my CPU. Bob's motherboard has a keybot that converts a keyboard into a level up controller Unfortunately my motherboard doesn't have a keybot or a button to level up. Is it possible to level up my CPU? If so, how? What is the max level my CPU can reach (level cap)? Do I nee...

cpu level-up

Burgi

9:37 AM

flagged as off topic... ;)

TOWMN

@Burgi It's related to computer hardware or software (or both)

How is it off topic?

Journeyman Geek

Is it April first?

user226528

@JourneymanGeek It is close. 3 days now.

user226528

@Burgi How comes I don't see your flag?

TOWMN

@JourneymanGeek Shit, I should have waited shouldn't i

But it was topical! We were talking about it last night before I went to bed.

Burgi

9:46 AM

i was joking

TOWMN

Oh hey, it was autotagged with Performance

user226528

(mutters to himself in Mordor language)

TOWMN

No wait that was Burgi

Burgi

level up was too obscure

TOWMN

But that's what the keybot says it is!

How would I know it had to do with performance? :-P

Burgi

9:50 AM

If I understand it correctly you need a motherboard that supports KeyBot. You have said that yours doesn't support this. — Burgi 24 secs ago

TOWMN

But I want to level up :-(

Aww why do I get -2 rep for my question even though it has no upvotes or downvotes?

user226528

Flagged it as unclear...

TOWMN

0

A: How does USB Type-C work for graphics

Are there dedicated USB Type-C graphics cards? Yes, but this is not relevant. The USB type C connector was designed to be flexible and carry non-USB signals. In this case a USB type C connector is being used to deliver graphics to the monitor using alt-mode DisplayPort. USB-C also supports (...

Yay my second answer this year

Will this one HNQ too?

Aww my pretty graphics don't make it into the onebox

I'm not actually sure but it looks like Type-C will be limited to USB 2.0 speeds when using DP alt mode

@Bob knows these things, what does @Bob think?

user226528

This one is cute: A guys asks "In what versions did major browsers drop support for NPAPI plugins?" He claims to have searched Wikipedia and other Superuser questions. Then he answers his own question. But it has less info than the Wikipedia article to which he has linked.

TOWMN

@FleetCommand YYour face is unclear

user226528

9:55 AM

-1

Q: In what versions did major browsers drop support for NPAPI plugins?

From Wikipedia: Netscape Plugin Application Programming Interface (NPAPI) is an application programming interface (API) that allows plug-ins (more specifically, browser extensions) to be developed for web browsers. It was first developed for Netscape browsers, starting in 1995 with Netscape N...

google-chrome firefox browser java npapi

TOWMN

@FleetCommand The point of SU answers is to answer the question, not to quote entire Wikipedia articles

If i asked a question about PMR vs SMR I'd want an answer to tell me the differences, not to give me all the detail on giant magnetoresistance from Wikipedia

user226528

@TOWMN But he demonstrates lack of sufficient research. It is a ground for downvote.

satibel

aliexpress logic:
1 pcs: free shipping
2 pcs: 1.5€ shipping
bought 2 x 1pcs: free shipping

TOWMN

Oh wow it's gone from 0 to -6 in 6 whole minutes

Wait how does Burgi have so many more badges than me?

user226528

I swear this chatroom had an "ignore" feature. Why do I not find it?

TOWMN

10:01 AM

Click name => Click ignore

tereško

@FleetCommand click on avatar (it's at the bottom)

TOWMN

Ignore the "Everywhere", it doesn't actually ignore everywhere

tereško

:D

TOWMN

Urgh Windows scaling messing with my screenshots

Unfortunately there's no way to hide/ignore users on the main site, unless you write your own script to do it

I should probably get round to that already, just so I can go back on the main site and peruse stuff to answer without worrying about Ramhound trolling me in the background