Root Access

12:00 AM

@Bob, your answer for “Size” vs. “Size on disk” is terrific! I have sent that hyperlink to all of my new technicians within the last several months.

Bob

O_O

Also, wow, that was 2014? it feels like so long ago

Run5k

That is one of those questions that will stand the test of time, though.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Questions just don't interest me enough to answer these days :(

Maybe a comment, but...

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I've slowed down a fair bit

Bob

@Run5k I'm pretty surprised it got the reception it did. I actually thought that mess of a middle paragraph is rather confusing :P

But yea it somehow HNQ'd and exploded.

One must not question the way of the HNQ.

Run5k

12:07 AM

@Bob, only mildly so. People who already have a grasp of the basic concepts certainly won't get lost.

The way of the HNQ seems to rely upon mass appeal. I have been lucky enough to have two answers that were in an HNQ post. In contrast, the answer that I actually dedicated the most time/effort towards (as well as the only bounty I have received) only garnered a dozen up-votes.

Ben N

Yep

allquixotic

Cher - Prayers for this World [Official Audio]

►

Bob

The website may have special credentials only allowable from the university. On the other hand, sometimes there is a difference with http and https. If there is use of https, try taking the 's' off and use only the http; or visa versa. — ejbytes 3 mins ago

wut.

"special credentials only allowable from the university" => it's eclipse.org

Burgi

there is a bloody owl in the garden hooting away

Bob

@Burgi Is that good or bad?

Burgi

12:16 AM

bad

i have to have the window open because its so warm here and its very loud

Run5k

...especially if @Burgi has a dog or cat!

allquixotic

allquihootic says: I don't give a hoot about your eardrums

Burgi

i'll have to shut the window

bertieb

@Burgi Who?

Burgi

hopefully it'll go in an hour or so when i need to open the window

Ben N

12:19 AM

Sometimes barn owls here do their screech

nn

Night

@Burgi "warm" :P

'night

Burgi

@Bob 25C in my room

Bob

@Burgi humid?

Journeyman Geek

12:22 AM

iaai.com/…

Burgi

not really

Bob

'cause I think 25 is ... like, perfect room temp here

Journeyman Geek

Anyone in the market for a low mileage lambo?

Burgi

> Won't Start

Bob

>

Start Code:

Vehicle Won't Start

Hmmmmmmmm.

Journeyman Geek

12:23 AM

It'll buff out?

Bob

*Savage voice*: "Well, there's your problem!"

>

Notes:

Partially Dismantled

bertieb

@Bob I hear east coast winters all the way over there are in the mid twenties-- summers here struggle to get to the mid-twenties consistently

Burgi

> Secondary Damage: All Over

> Exterior/Interior: Black / Black

Bob

@bertieb Nah, winter gets down to 0 depending on year

Burgi

lol, burnt to a crisp

bertieb

12:25 AM

> Additional: the front fell off

Bob

Well, maybe you're right for further north but Syd gets down to 0

Melb goes below 0 a bit more

@bertieb love that one :P

Burgi

@bertieb i've seen that before

Bob

Matter of fact, it's 21 right now and it's wonderful

Journeyman Geek

@Bob that's Hyneman who says that ;p

bertieb

@Bob @Burgi I could see The Two Johns doing that one a service too (well, not now...)

Bob

12:26 AM

Also sometimes it's a good idea to "power cycle" your router. Unplug it, plug it back in. Also, are you Cat connected or wifi? — ejbytes 1 min ago

hehe

"Cat connected"

@JourneymanGeek goddammit

I thought it was, looked it up quickly, then changed it.

Journeyman Geek

;p

Bob

Well, it's more a question of who said it first at this point. Think they both did at some point.

bertieb

@Bob It barely scraped double digits here and immediately everyone went into full TAPS AFF mode

Speaking of cat-connected:

> Owls: sometimes a cat

bwDraco

welp. Got myself a new fountain pen, a Pilot MR with fine nib. The US/Japan uses Pilot proprietary cartridges, but it does accept the CON-50 converter. Had a spare CON-50 on hand so used it and filled the pen with Sheaffer Skrip Jet Black.

Writes a very fine line, about EF or even EEF by Western nib standards, but this is to be expected with a Japanese nib. The nib has some tooth to it but is otherwise smooth. It lays a consistent line without skipping or flooding.

TOWMN

@Run5k Link?

@Bob Same

Run5k

12:40 AM

@TOWMN, absolutely... but to what?

bwDraco

(@Bob, @JourneymanGeek, since you're interested in cheap fountain pens)

Ran me US$16 at the local office supply store.

TOWMN

@Run5k The question you are referring to

Or answer

Or whatever

Run5k

@Bob, thanks for chiming in on that Firefox question. Sometime, it seems like the Chrome vs. Firefox debate overshadows good advice.

TOWMN

@Bob totes jel

Bob

@bwDraco I don't think @JourneymanGeek does particularly cheap :P

TOWMN

12:43 AM

Actually the last couple days haven't been terribly bad in the UK either.

Bob

@bwDraco Metropolitan?

Have a couple of those. I prefer M

TOWMN

Day I got back was 13'c, then the next two or three were 0-3'c with hailstones, then it's been 12-15'c since

bwDraco

@Bob Yeah. Pretty much the same thing.

The MR and Metropolitan are essentially the same product.

Bob

@TOWMN well, that's better than 35-40 IMO

If it's cold you can always wear more clothing

If it's hot... welp.

TOWMN

@Bob I'd rather have 35-40 than 3.5-4, but only cause I don't have appropriate clothing for motorcycling in <10'c

Been spending the day browsing Amazon for all the ways I could waste money on wamer motorcycle clothing though

Run5k

12:45 AM

@TOWMN, of course, but we mentioned a few of them. Were you referring to the HNQ questions, or the bounty question?

TOWMN

£300 for a jacket, £250 for gloves, etc.

@Run5k The specific one you were talking about

The message mentions one specific answer only. So obviously that's the one I'm referring to.

Electrically heated gloves would have been real nice for the winter just past...

Run5k

Sorry for the misunderstanding... here you go:

10

Q: How do I tell if Windows 10 was a fresh install or upgrade from 7/8?

Is there a reliable way to determine the OS upgrade history leading to Windows 10 or if it was a fresh install?

TOWMN

But now it's got to the point it's borderline pointless to buy new stuff cause summer is coming, but it's still unpredictable enough there'll be some freezing cold days that my current stuff isn't good enough for

@Run5k I think you're confused. Follow the arrows and re-read your own message...

Bob

@Run5k Yea... it annoys me when an answer ends up (unnecessarily) being "use a different browser/OS". Maybe it technically solves the problem but it's like using a bulldozer to extract a screw.

But my comment there probably wasn't particularly useful.

Run5k

The great answer in the “Size” vs. “Size on disk” question? Do you mind if I post that link, @Bob?

Bob

12:52 AM

@Run5k Uh, sure? Though I'm pretty sure everyone here's seen it.

Run5k

289

A: Why is there such a big difference between "Size" and "Size on disk"?

I will be assuming that you are using the FAT/FAT32 filesystem here, since you mention this is a SD card. NTFS and exFAT behave similarly with regards to allocation units. Other filesystems might be different, but they aren't supported on Windows anyway. If you have a lot of small files, this is...

That's the one that @TOWMN wanted to see.

TOWMN

Thanks

Never thought I'd say this but I actually now prefer setting my F-keys to default to Fn function instead of Function key function

I used to utterly hate laptops that did that and instantly changed them to back to F1-F12 keys, always.

Run5k

Glad to help. Again, sorry about the misunderstanding... I didn't think to navigate through the reply arrows.

TOWMN

@Run5k Welcome to the peculiarities of the SU chat interface :-P

Anyhow, last few days I've realised I actually never use F1-F12 keys anymore...

Whereas I do regularly use brightness, volume control, GPU control, keyboard backlight controls, etc.

So yeah, I've gone over to the dark side, which I've hated so much all my life...

Now that I mention it, does anyone really still use F-keys anymore? Was there some sort of deliberate movement to phase them out or have they just passively gone out of fashion?

Ben N

I use F1 (online help from Visual Studio), F2 (rename), and F5 (refresh) quite a lot

Bob

12:59 AM

@TOWMN :(

Ben N

Also Alt+F4 occasionally

TOWMN

Hmm now that I think about it I do use F-keys a lot, F2 for rename, F4 to close, and F5 to refresh

I wish I could toggle between Fn and Function without going to BIOS -_-

Bob

@TOWMN Yup. Almost the same as @BenN, just in a different order.

Alt+F4 is the big one, F5 is usually fine cause those laptops tend to leave it or have it on refresh.

F2 sometimes for renaming files etc

Journeyman Geek

@Run5k this is ok. Even I forget to reply sometimes and I have the chat addon installed.

Bob

Oh. And of course for dev/debugging... F8 to continue, F11 to step, etc

TOWMN

1:00 AM

F6... dunno what that does, F7... dunno what that does, F8... I'm sure that does something... F9, F10, nah. F11 for fullscreen in browser? I use maybe once or twice a week

@Bob See I mostly game and web browse these days, so Alt+F4 is quite rare. Mostly I use Ctrl+W since tabs

That said the Dell keyboard is smart enough that when I press Alt+F4 with the F-keys in Fn mode, it still does a normal Alt+F4 instead of Alt volume down

Ben N

Either F6 or F7 (not sure) toggled Caret Browsing in IE

Run5k

@JourneymanGeek, thanks for that... it should be a bit easier to remember in the future.

Ben N

I only know that because of accidentally hitting those keys instead of F5

TOWMN

It's not smart enough to do that with Ctrl+F5 though

@BenN eww

I've used caret browsing (deliberately) maybe twice in my life?

Journeyman Geek

actually I'm surprised those features were never rolled in

TOWMN

1:03 AM

Every other time I just hit it by accident and wonder why my scrolling has gone so weird

FRAPS normally binds to F-something to move the FPS display but I've re-bound that to ` anyway because whatever key it was was also the quicksave/quickload key in some game I used to play

Ah dammit the more I talk about never using F-keys the more I realise just how much I use F-keys

Guess I'll be going to BIOS soon whenever I start playing KSP again

Bob

@BenN F7 does caret browsing on FF

probbly the same on IE

@TOWMN That's my in-game console key :(

TOWMN

@Bob I don't think any of the games I currently play have in-game consoles

But yeah, in the old FPS days that'd have been a pain

Mind you my laptop has a row of 3x5 customizeable macro keys I could probably assign to some non-ASCII characters for things like toggling FRAPS without using up any keyboard keys

Journeyman Geek

yup

TOWMN

I wonder if FRAPS will allow you to use emoji as hotkeys

Bob

@TOWMN Nah. Characters != keypresses/scancodes.

You're better off using the F13-F24 range

Journeyman Geek

1:08 AM

^ this

TOWMN

@Bob o_0

TIL

Journeyman Geek

@TOWMN I think razer uses those (internally) for its macro keys

._.

0

A: How to change name of font?

Be aware that Postscript names are intended for the use of FONT AUTHORS. What you are asking is 'how do we change the font file Postscript name': this name is the internal name used used by the font 'file' (which is actually an 'application') to name the font file for Windows Explorer, Mac Finder...

TOWMN

??????

Journeyman Geek

Not sure if its a markov chain, or if I'm undercaffeinated.

TOWMN

??

💩

Aww

Journeyman Geek

1:11 AM

☕

Bob

@JourneymanGeek It started alright then started getting weird near the end of the first paragraph.

And fell off a cliff in the second.

I'm all hyped up on milo :P

Journeyman Geek

Excellent stuff

Bob

> StackOverflow coding is not a political forum, but political influence is damaging the global environment for all code work not amenable to the general [SIP-aholic, inebriated, delusional, incapacitated]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

TOWMN

Hmm, interesting. Whatever ?? is, it's identified as "U" in FRAPS

Bob

> It's not just a Trump's colony thing, nor yet another acceleration of 1,617 year old Crusade war, not even London-Bonn & Apple-Brexit affairs with resulting Soviet-Chinese global expansion in foreign banks, and other surveillance and blind control measures all duely insitutionalized (public comment currently frozen with fear). Teetotaler coders are in the middle of a storm. Work demands a SIP-less existence.

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TOWMN

1:13 AM

and it's triggered only by the macro key I assigned to the poop emoji, and not by the actual U key

So it sorta works? :-o

Bob

> Postscript naming methods are the tip of a growing number of very dangerous icebergs spinning in an oceanic storm.

?!

TOWMN

I assigned a macro key to type the poop emoji, but whenever I press the key in Chrome it just comes up with ??. But when I press the key in FRAPS' set hotkey thing it comes up as U, but isn't an actual letter U

U

That looks like a U right?

🍕

Hmm, so the pizza emoji shows up as "E" in fraps but is also triggered by the poop emoji

Not sure what's going on but it appears to not be unicode/emoji ready -_-

Urgh, the macro manager on this Alienware is worse than the Logitech one from 10 years ago. You can't manually add or edit timings, though you can record them.

Journeyman Geek

Having read through it 4 times...

TOWMN

So @Bob how does one enter F13-F24?

Journeyman Geek

Its not an answer.

Bob

1:20 AM

@TOWMN Very carefully.

(Really, depends on software support... Windows knows about those keys, as does AHK, but it's a toss-up for other programs.)

TOWMN

@Bob Eh, if it's keystroke-able it'll probably work.

Just gotta figure out a way to actually enter said keys. I don't think you can copy-paste a F13 keystroke can you?

Bob

@TOWMN If you just need the keystroke, use AHK to temporarily map something else to F13

Journeyman Geek

I was about to say that.

TOWMN

Ooh does it have an Ascii code? Wait I don't have a numpad

Yeah I don't have AHK installed either :-(

Bob

@TOWMN it's portable :P

Journeyman Geek

1:22 AM

@TOWMN I have a standalone numpad somewhere here

"In case

Bob

@TOWMN ref msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa299374(v=vs.60).aspx

TOWMN

@JourneymanGeek Heh

Bob

actually not much useful in there :S

Journeyman Geek

@TOWMN old workplace threw it out ;p

TOWMN

Dammit where's Windows 8.1's OSK when I need it

Journeyman Geek

1:25 AM

It was barely used (which is a suprise)

TOWMN

Dammit, OSK with Alt+num combos don't work

Bob

@TOWMN F13 is 0x005B

AHA! msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc248947.aspx

0x007C?

wtf

TOWMN

3

A: Alt+Numpad key codes on modern Windows laptops without numpad

I don't have encountered a laptop without a numpad yet, but I take your word for it. I see a few options right now: Buy a standalone USB numpad. Careful, though, as some just send the regular number key scancodes and thus cannot be used as a numpad for this purpose. Create your own keyboard la...

Seems that AHK is the recommendation that comes up all over the place

Journeyman Geek

@TOWMN It does what you need it to do.

TOWMN

Had it installed for like 5 years, but never used it

Now that I need to use it, obviously it's no longer installed

@JourneymanGeek Yeah but a good old fashioned alt+keycode would have done if there were an alternativew ay to do it

Bob

1:30 AM

bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833719

weird

yea should be 0x7C

TOWMN

Now I remember why I never used AHK

I could never figure out how to work it

ö

Hotkeyception?

Journeyman Geek

0

Q: New hard drive buzzing when tilted

I have bought a brand new hard drive (HGST HTS721010A9E630) for my laptop and it's making a buzzing sound if the laptop is tilted. The more aggressive the tilting speed, the louder the sound. When the laptop is static, the drive sounds normal. The buzzing itself is like sound a small hair trimmer...

hard-drive laptop diagnostic

0_0

@BenN superuser.com/questions/1192884/… p-p-p-p-powershell?

🗼

Pew pew pew

TOWMN

1:45 AM

Dammit can't get Alienware macro config thing to accept AHK input

Bob

@TOWMN Try one of the different sendinput modes or a ll hook

LOL I thought this was @allquixotic autohotkey.com/board/topic/…

@TOWMN you might need to run ahk as admin

allquixotic

> girlgamer

Journeyman Geek

lol

@allquixotic is a tomcat tho ;p

or a traincat.

allquixotic

I'm just a rather unfriendly Yoda-thing angry at seagulls

bwDraco

Journeyman Geek

1:49 AM

@allquixotic Rant Backwards you do?

TOWMN

@Bob Tried all the send modes :-(

Journeyman Geek

youtube.com/watch?v=5IjEuBu_Xe8 0_0

bwDraco

@Bob, @JourneymanGeek: fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/…

TOWMN

@Bob: Fuck it I'm just going to edit the macro key definition XML

> <KeystrokeAndFunctionActions>
<ID>d065fea8-e71a-40a4-9d7c-6c0256a31b9b</ID>
<ActionID>e9ef36cb-9012-4000-b728-8392c78bca73</ActionID>
<VirtualKey>113</VirtualKey>
<Modifiers>0</Modifiers>
<Flags>0</Flags>
</KeystrokeAndFunctionActions>

Bob

@allquixotic but that avatar!

@TOWMN run as admin?

TOWMN

2:00 AM

@Bob Not sure how

Running it just gives the help docs, opening a script doesn't give a run as admin option

Bob

@TOWMN run cmd as admin, launch ahk script from that cmd?

TOWMN

Either way, editing the XML was easy enough

Bob

lol

TOWMN

s/113/124/ gives F13 easy enough

Fraps doesn't seem to like my macro keypad though, I think it might be recognizing the underlying raw keycodes (is that what JMG meant with the Razer using them internally?)

Basically when I press macro key 1, FRAPS shows an 'E' that isn't an 'E', then the macro sequence I assigned to that key. If I press key 5, it shows a 'U' which isn't a U, etc.

Journeyman Geek

@TOWMN linux detects the scancodes for M1 as F13 in linux, once you've sent an initialsation packet

and so on

TOWMN

2:04 AM

So yeah, the macro keys may be running some of its own AHK like sequence that sends some scancode then the application replaces that with whatever you assigned.

@JourneymanGeek I suspect this Alienware macro keyboard does the same

Which is shit.

My old Logitech mouse from 10 years ago was better -_-

Journeyman Geek

ah

@TOWMN alternately do a compiled AHK scrpt that presses the button and bind the exe to the macro

bwDraco

Technically, the USB HID keyboard protocol allows for F-keys up to F24.

Not every app supports these unusual keys, though.

TOWMN

My old Logitech mouse was awesome, it showed as a hardware keyboard and Windows saw physical keypresses coming from it when it ran the macro you assigned

Journeyman Geek

(heh. I actually have an EXE that calls another EXE as a macro. Thanks @Bob)

TOWMN

Not some fake keycodes translated by a background application, or virtual keystrokes... it emulated a full hardware keyboard

Journeyman Geek

2:06 AM

they don't do that any more

TOWMN

Yeah, it's sad, and I don't get why

Journeyman Geek

so they can force you to use their cruddy unifed configuratiors

TOWMN

If anything the technology to do it should be easier thanks to cheaper/more advanced embedded controllers

bwDraco

As for extra mouse buttons, most modern games and many desktop applications support five mouse buttons (Back as M4, Forward as M5) but any more are usually proprietary.

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek RAZER SYNAPSE

TOWMN

2:07 AM

@JourneymanGeek :-(

Michael Frank

Or in other words, "All your settings are belong to us, so best not try and play offline."

TOWMN

lol

Journeyman Geek

Mine runs in offline mode :p

TOWMN

The old style macro entry was great for getting past just about any macro detection/blocking utility too

Since Windows literally could not tell the difference between the commands coming from it, and coming from a physical keyboard.

Michael Frank

I think the colour changing software for my mouse is really cool though: steelseries.com/gaming-mice/rival-300-csgo-fade

TOWMN

2:08 AM

No unified configurator or silly application needed, once it'd been programmed it would work completely standalone

Michael Frank

@TOWMN Yea, until they catch on when you have an APM faster than a Korean StarCraft 2 player.

TOWMN

You could move it to any other comptuer, plug it in, press a button, and get a string of keystrokes typed on a physical keyboard input into said computer

@MichaelFrank lol

Michael Frank

@TOWMN That seems realllllllllllly hacky.

TOWMN

@MichaelFrank It's awesome

Michael Frank

What mouse is this?

TOWMN

2:10 AM

Logitech G500?

Completely standalone macro functionality

Michael Frank

Oooooh, I think I have a similar model to that.

TOWMN

I found it super useful, I even used it at work

I'd program a bunch of keys at home, plug it into any work PC, and have macros and shortcuts available that actually sped up my work quite a bit

I had some button configured to open some silly tool we had to use, enter some predefined data, click next, etc.

This was back before I gave myself admin rights on any machine >_>

Michael Frank

Oh, I had the Logitech G5. Maybe not quite as fancy.

TOWMN

Looks quite similar, maybe the predecessor or one model down? Just the same thing with a couple less buttons it seems

My flatmate had one of those before getting the G500 as well

bwDraco

Wow. This cheap Pilot fountain pen writes just as smoothly as my $400+ Pelikan M600.

Michael Frank

2:15 AM

It was a great mouse, I probably should have stayed with it. But I was working full-time, and still living with my parents so I insta-purchased the Razer Mamba when it first released.

bwDraco

Quite simply remarkable given that this is essentially an EF nib...

Bob

@bwDraco ...or completely expected

TOWMN

It's the completely self-contained, portable macro functionality which I loved. Instead of new tab => open student records page => go to text box 4 => enter search type => go to text box 7 => Enter some obnoxious filter parameter code %S%D--M%NNN%03 => click next, it was just

Mouse 7.

Michael Frank

@Bob Yea, it's a pen. >.>

Bob

because expensive fountain pens are a fashion statement

they're not functionally better...

TOWMN

2:16 AM

!!s/fountain pens/foxes/

bwDraco

:P

Sorry, bot's still down.

Michael Frank

@bwDraco I've got some Tuning Dots you might be interested in... marigoaudio.com/tuning-dots

TOWMN

I think the subsequent model of my mouse had the option of storing 3 different profiles on the mouse itself and switching between them again, self contained, without needing the software

But now you have to install their stupid utility to use any of the extra buttons on the new mice. Although at least it auto-installs itself on Windows somehow

bwDraco

@Bob FWIW, I'm using Sheaffer Skrip black ink in this pen. The Pelikan gets much more expensive Edelstein Onyx ink.

Bob

I used food colouring for a bit

@TOWMN I has this thing rog.asus.com/articles/gallery/what-is-rog-keybot

never used it though

Michael Frank

2:20 AM

@Bob Not the flavoured kind though.. right?

Bob

@MichaelFrank don't have any of those :(

TOWMN

@Bob CPU LEVEL UP?!

How could you not level up your cpu when you have a dedicated hardware chip to turn a keyboard into a dedicated cpu level up button?!

Bob

lol

Michael Frank

Unlock your CPU Potential! How high can you go? Intel i5? Psssh! With CPU Level Up, the sky is the limit! How about you level that i5 up! i7? i9? i11? Can it go any higher?!!!

TOWMN

I should ask a question on SU: "How do I level up my CPU?"

@MichaelFrank yes but you need to grind for XP

On Windows XP obviously, for bonus XP

Michael Frank

2:25 AM

That's okay, I've got a mouse that'll do that for me. :P

Bind CPU Level Up to scroll up/down and spin that sucker.

That was one of the best 'hacks' when playing CoD:MW2. Bind shoot to Scroll Wheel and run around with an automatic anything. Great fun.

Bob

@MichaelFrank I have a friend who could (legitimately) click so fast he got banned from a CoD4 server for "scrolling" a semi-auto gun

Not like it's hard to click real quick for 20 shots...

Bob

3:00 AM

@JourneymanGeek you should totally share that on TCR :P

Ramhound

3:26 AM

iPhone is such a second class citizen for Windows owners.

So upgraded to iOS 10.3; wanted to verify my phone with my other device; logged into iCloud on my pc. It just sits there verifying....

MacOS would get a notification

had to reset iCloud Keychain....

Bob

@Ramhound More like Windows is a second-class citizen to Apple -_-

It's on Apple to make iTunes not terrible

Ramhound

Rifht; that's what I mean; my point I can't verify my phone on another device if my only device is my phone :-$

I'm no longer at the company with the Exchange Server, so I cannot connect to it — Brad Thomas 3 mins ago

Anyone know where Outlook on MacOS stores it's contacts?

i suspect his system is picking up his Outlook contacts (no longer uses it) and his iCloud contacts.

allquixotic

3:43 AM

@Ramhound oh snap, 10.3 is out! :O

that was sudden. grabbing it :D

for me the most exciting parts of 10.3 are APFS and Verizon receive-call-anywhere support

Ramhound

Yeah; Don't use the initial attempt to log into your iCloud. Do it later otherwise at least for me the notification to do so stays up

recive call anywhere?

verizon user

Bob

So, we recently got an iPad Pro. Think it's the 9.7" one

It's decently fast. (Def fast for a tablet) The keyboard still sucks.

allquixotic

@Bob that's the one my mom has

@Bob only decently fast? the only chip faster than the A9X in SoC land is the A10 Fusion

and maybe Qualcomm's latest whatever comes out with the Galaxy S8

Ramhound

4:01 AM

So Samsung needs to be boycotted; their plans to recycle their S7 is to resell them to customers in regions where the government doesn't care if phones explode, haha

allquixotic

256 GiB of internal NAND with crypto is taking a long time to migrate from HFS+ to APFS on my 7 Plus

@Ramhound you mean note 7?

bwDraco

I wish phone makers other than Intel took storage performance seriously.

s/Intel/Apple/

Not sure why this happened.

I must be getting way too tired.

Journeyman Geek

@Ramhound note 7. :p

bwDraco

That means it's time for me to go to bed. Night.

Journeyman Geek

Also smaller batteries I suspect

bwDraco

4:06 AM

Yeah. I've heard they're using a smaller battery.

Again, good night.

Ramhound

Yep; I do it's just funny; they recalled all these phones and. Ow they plan to resell them :-$

Bob

@allquixotic I've not run anything heavy on it

@Ramhound they've already found the problem was in the battery manufacturing process. there's nothing with wrong the phone hardware

at this point you are simply scaremongering

Ramhound

No; I just find it funny;

Bob

@Ramhound Yes, very funny. So much so that you outright called for a boycott and implied they were deliberately selling dangerous devices.

Ramhound

Alright well; the phones did explode, and were recalled, and there not going to be sold in the EU or the US; so I find it interesting that Samsung plans to resell the phones on regions where the phone isn't basically banned.

Bob

4:22 AM

@Ramhound The recall was voluntary in the first place, the phone was never banned, AFAIK they've not said anything about the EU...

And going by your logic, anyone selling any device containing a battery by Samsung SDI or ATL should also be boycotted.

FYI that includes a good chunk of laptops, tablets, phones (incl. iPhones!) and other devices too.

Considering it was the batteries that were actually defective.

Ramhound

Attempt to take one onto a plane :-$

Actually don't unless you want to sit in airport jail :-$

Bob

@Ramhound Which does not equate to the phone actually being banned altogether. And IIRC their only requirement was that it not be switched on in-flight, which (apart from being pointless) isn't much different from general phone restrictions just a few years ago.

And considering there's no issue with the rest of the hardware (e.g. charge controller is fine), there's really nothing wrong there.

Ramhound

So I admit the last time I heard the recall was optional but at least in the US you could not get service for it

Bob

They could rebrand and recertify the damn thing and it might as well be a new device.

Ramhound

So I am just being tough on Samsung :$

Bob

4:35 AM

The only reason it's refurbished is cause the hardware technically was pre-owned/pre-used.

They can't sell it as new, legally.

Anyway. Actual issue IIRC was defective battery design by Samsung SDI (battery subsidiary, largely independent of Samsung Electronics) initially, where there was too much stress on a corner. Then the second batch from ATL (completely unrelated company) had poor welding on the contacts (?).

Basically... a whole lot of bad luck. Especially with that second batch.

At the end of the day, that meant the batteries were somewhat riskier than usual, but there's certainly no guarantee that they'll fail.

The whole larger/smaller battery thing is ... interesting

Considering the S7 Edge actually has a higher capacity battery. But idk the relative densities

Ramhound

I know, about the battery, I just stop tracking it after TSA banned them :-) but I admit re last update was Samsung was on its second attempt to root cause analysis the issue.

Bob

@Ramhound They came out with the report a few months ago.

@Ramhound Oh, here it is arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/01/…

Or the press release news.samsung.com/global/…

You can call it biased for being based off info from Samsung themselves, but... those are some pretty big names from third-party consultants there.

UL is ... unlikely ... to risk their reputation.

Ramhound

Anyways; I can't decide between Drobo and Synology, driving me crazy 😜

Bob

4:51 AM

flip a coin