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11:02 AM
@JourneymanGeek i'll be honest i thought that was your dogginess coming through
 
@Burgi heh. Its a reference to what Madara Uchiha was talking about. And the usual trick of being amusing ;p
 
i think i have read that story before
 
there's also a short video version
 
i thijnk it was in a collected sci-fi anthology
 
is he using OEM licenses?
 
if it sounds too good to be true....
 
@JourneymanGeek watch it...
 
can you summarise it, i am in work
 
@Burgi Yep, but apparently you can buy retail
@Burgi go to kinguin.net, buy it, use it
 
11:22 AM
@RahulBasu chances are its a OEM key for some wierd chinese OEM
 
I think it is genuine
@JourneymanGeek fair enough...
 
granted, the retail keys are rediculously cheap too
 
It says OEM key on the website the video shows.
Kinguin even offer a key protection service for an extra $1...
 
SCAMMITY SCAM SCAM OF SCAMMINGTON
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11:30 AM
@Burgi heh, I consider it "how much risk do I want to take to save a few bucks"
 
Bob
@allquixotic Just got around to watching that PQ17 docu.
@RahulBasu Eh... this guy is rather naive.
OEM keys aren't just if you build a machine yourself.
 
@Bob which guy?
 
Bob
It needs to be built for someone else.
 
oh...
 
Bob
May 16 at 14:00, by Bob
What I'm getting from that is if I sell it to someone else, I can use the OEM licence on it.
I'm not a lawyer... but I can read, and EULAs (while wordy) aren't that hard to read, usually.
 
11:38 AM
wait... you seriously read EULAs?
 
Bob
It's actually rather depressing to know how many people skip right past. Probably largely the same people who'll click Ok on every error message without reading. Then complain about something not working.
I made it a policy to at least skim them after noticing some of them 'give permission' to install adware.
Good way to tell if there's adware bundled and cancel the install.
Though, that was back in... '07? These days they use different tactics.
Oh god it's been almost a decade.
 
I'll follow your lead and skim through them :D
 
Bob
@RahulBasu Usually, there's just a lot of boilerplate that's easily to skip right past.
And they're usually separated into distinct clauses that you can quickly scan the headings of.
 
Skimming through them and reading the small print is good. Sometimes ive even seen trick questions.
 
I (almost) never end up with adware
@NetworkKingPin I have too
 
Bob
11:41 AM
@RahulBasu Full blown adware is near nonexistent these days.
 
hm...
 
Bob
Unless you count bundled software.
...and I do.
All those bundled toolbars and crap? Adware.
 
Bob
Though these days they usually hide a sneaky checkbox somewhere.
 
java cough java
 
11:42 AM
@bob I love finding those :D
 
Bob
Back to OEM keys - again, I wonder if I can satisfy the requirements by building a computer for, say, my brother :P
 
@Bob is it a bad thing that I don't create 100-page long EULAs for my apps, because I personally hate them?
 
Bob
And how far you could stretch 'sold'.
 
@RahulBasu typically no
 
Bob
@RahulBasu Depends what licence you distribute them under.
 
11:43 AM
@Bob exactly what I was thinking...
@Bob Usually MIT
 
Bob
Open source licences are also EULAs, in a sense.
The EULA doesn't restrict users.
It gives them permission to use the software, except in certain circumstances.
Without a licence agreement of some form (verbal or otherwise) technically they're not allowed to use the software at all...
Though I suspect the act of intentionally giving it to them also gives them implied permission.
Wouldn't fly past the legal department of any major corp, but most individuals wouldn't really care and would just use it.
 
@Bob So my EULA should be "Use it anyway you want, as long as you limit yourself to whatever is written in the license"?
 
Bob
@RahulBasu No... the licence itself serves as your "EULA".
For most open-source programs without installers, it's just included somewhere (LICENSE.TXT, or embedded in the program, etc.).
 
So, I can just leave it all to MIT?
 
Bob
If you grabbed, say, GIMP - you'd get the GPL or something in the installer.
 
11:48 AM
@Bob I include it too...
 
Bob
@RahulBasu Assuming those are the terms you wish to distribute under.
 
@RahulBasu what if you want to make money from your software?
 
@Burgi I don't ;)
 
Bob
 
Also, can't I re-license it?
 
11:50 AM
sure
 
@Bob I choose MIT ;)
 
Bob
> You’ll have to check with your own legal counsel regarding your particular project, but generally speaking, the absence of a license means that default copyright laws apply. This means that you retain all rights to your source code and that nobody else may reproduce, distribute, or create derivative works from your work.
Of course it depends on the country.
 
@RahulBasu you say that now....
 
Bob
> If you find software that doesn’t have a license, that generally means you have no permission from the creators of the software to use, modify, or share the software.
 
Which is a problem I face often
I find code on forums which I want to incorporate in my apps, but there isn't any license with it :(
 
Bob
11:52 AM
@RahulBasu You still have full permission to do anything you want with your copy of the code, including distributing it under a different licence.
 
Bob
What you generally can't do is retract a licence already given, unless the licence itself has provisions for doing so.
(technically, that's the difference between a perpetual and non-perpetual licence, but afaik they're usually assumed perpetual)
 
So, I can't switch to BSD in the future?
 
Bob
@RahulBasu You can distribute another copy under BSD.
You can stop distributing your future code under MIT.
You can't take back what you've already distributed under MIT.
 
Ah...
 
Bob
11:54 AM
(but remember I'm not a lawyer and none of this is necessarily legally correct)
 
what about when you are a poor starving student or graduate without a job?
 
Bob
@RahulBasu Another thing to keep in mind - if other people have made contributions to your code, you need permission from each of them to re-licence it.
See CLAs
A Contributor License Agreement (CLA) defines the terms under which intellectual property has been contributed to a company/project, typically software under an open source license. Creative Commons alumna Catharina Maracke released the next generation legal and technical project, Contributor Agreements which provides important contributions to international legal technical aspects of CLAs and lessons learned from previous CLA projects. == Rationale == Contributor Licence Agreements (CLAs) can be used to enable vendors to easily pursue legal resolution in the case of copyright disputes, o...
 
@Burgi I'll code some better stuff?
 
Bob
@RahulBasu Because they own copyright to the bits they contributed. But they can give you (perpetual) permission to distribute under other licences, etc, via a CLA.
 
and give it away for free?
 
Bob
11:56 AM
Other thing to keep in mind is that much of this hasn't actually been tested in court, so there's little hard legal precedent.
 
:30040653 Dang, I was just about to star that ;)
 
goes red the pretty girl in the office
 
Were you typing in the wrong window?
 
no i was thinking out loud
 
11:58 AM
then i realised she might look over my shoulder
 
even more lol
sounds like you want to look over her shoulder!
 
@DavidPostill finnaly got boot, to test a "Scancode" that "changes the capslock into a shift key" and that is exactally what it does, the caps lock is now just a shift key and functions of caps lock itself do not exist at all
up to and including the whole board being shifted
 
@Psycogeek Congrats. You can write a self answered question ;)
 
@DavidPostill kinda
 
given the option the other method at least there is some function of the caps lock existing still , which is better.
 
Bob
12:07 PM
> Wrong email
mate, this is a registration form
I'll decide if my email is right or wrong, tyvm
 
@HackToHell no worky
 
user image
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Should now ^_^
 
spacex - 96% success rate
snapchat - 100% success rate in the sexting market
 
12:18 PM
lol
 
and the landing stats for spacex are even worse
50% failures on landings
 
Snapchat has failed too. :P People just don't care.
 
@WilliamMariager They failed on the advertising too, I've never heard of it ;)
 
@DavidPostill You might not fall into their target audience. ;)
 
i love that image
 
12:24 PM
@GuitarShoeDave I don't fall in any advertisers target market - I don't believe any advertisers actually tell the truth about their products and I don't want to read/see/hear their lies. ;)
 
@DavidPostill its what the kids do instead of flirting and staring at the floor awkwardly
 
i used to work for one of those companies
we used to fire pixels on pages
to track online behavior
 
ah so you worked for snapchat
 
well i didnt care till sexting came up, but being sexted by some 90yr old dude posing,, not my kind of thing
 
The only reason for adverts is to spin things to make products look good and to break your enjoyment of any drama on TV.
 
12:25 PM
@Burgi: Nah, worked for a company that provided analytics to dealerships across many segments in the usa.
 
I suppose "sexting" is a rude text? Why do you need a special app for that?
 
we correlated online advertising with offline purchases.
 
@GuitarShoeDave You would get 0 from me ;)
 
@DavidPostill it specifically needs a photo attached
 
ah. But most apps allow photos to be attached don't they? I can do that with email.
 
12:27 PM
@DavidPostill: You'd be surprised of the # of browser vulnerabilities that there are that enable companies to still track you.
 
normally of someones naughty bits
which you can then steal and put on the internet
love is complex....
 
@GuitarShoeDave heh, most of my offline purchases are cash ;)
 
@GuitarShoeDave I wouldn't. I use uBlock and no 3rd party cookies ...
 
in dark alleys?
 
@Burgi: nah our method was 100% private, there was no way of tying our information down to a specific user. But yes, there are some that are VERY invasive.
 
12:29 PM
"meat? we have meat"
 
@Burgi usually no.
 
Oh and Privacy Badger
 
there was a guy in futurama who sold "stuff" in dark alleys
 
to dogs?
 
I don't get targeted ads, I only get spam.
 
12:32 PM
Ghostery is probably the best you can use to opt out of everything.. evidon requires all companies to provide methods of opting out of online advertising.. have you used it? I havent heard of uBlock though.
 
ublock's a fairly conventional adblock thing
 
If you dont want to dowload ghostery u can just go here ghostery.com/support/global-opt-out
and blamo, instantly opted out of thousands of companies.
will have to try it out
 
opt-out? in the US they have a "do not call" list, it is just used by the worst of them as the "Do Call" because nobody else is calling them in that list.
 
@Psycogeek: I feel your pain trust me.
ublock looks pretty sweet
 
 
12:41 PM
Moving around randomly I ended up at New Age Beleriand.
 
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Q: How can we add a "useful resources" to the help center?

PandyaI've visited the help-center of one the sites, and noticed a "useful resources" section: I'm surprised to see it, since I don't see it in the help center of other sites. So, how can we have such section in other site? Can a community (say Hinduism) decide and write such stuff (if worthy t...

 
The advantage of never providing real information to forums, getting birthday notices throughout the year :-)
(now if they would just send presents)
 
@Psycogeek: i did that once on face book. I changed my birthday for a full week every day of the week. Just so that people would recieve the notification all week long.
 
@GuitarShoeDave lol
Also, where did you get that file with 530k periods?
I want it now!
 
crl
For documents edition (word, openoffice,..) is it bad to work on files on a USB key directly?
 
12:52 PM
@crl No?
why would it be??
 
crl
I don't see why it would be bad, but someone once told me it should be avoided
dunno, maybe it takes more time to save, or whatever
 
um... if someone steals the usb, you don't have a backup?
 
@crl same issue you have if you have one copy of anything
 
@crl USBs have a habit of just failing. You have backups, right?
 
@crl if one was to manufacture a reason, versions of word can store a backup version of what your working on, if a person was still working on it, and pulled any "removable" disk item, things that the program was doing might not finish up.
even if it was flushed and unmounted proper before uninstall, if the document was still open
 
1:09 PM
whoa much
Samsung has for the first time (and an industry first) created a complete 512GB SSD solution in a single one-chip package. That’s the storage using 20mm NAND chips, 4Gb of DDR4 memory, and a controller in one to create an SSD called the PM971-NVMe.
Waiting for phones to come with that
 
@DavidPostill the girl on reception is pretty too but she smells of coffee (we have a real barista coffee machine thing in reception)
 
OOh. I like the smell of coffee ;)
 
i realise this makes me sound like a proper weirdo who goes round sniffing people
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crl
ah ok, thanks guys
 
i don't
 
1:18 PM
@Burgi Maybe not, but you're going to get stars anyway ... ;)
 
crl
as long as she doesn't smell cigarette you're safe
 
posted on June 01, 2016

“GURENTY”

 
crl
spam like that deserve more to be ignored
 
2:15 PM
I have two tunnels, using plink, to the same machine. One for RDP and one for HTTP. RDP works, HTTP doesn't. wtf
However, I can access the HTTP service from other machines on the remote network, so the service is there
I have other tunnels that don't work right either. The HTTP one is just for easy debugging right now
All tunnels use the same exit node on the remote network, so... I don't get it
 
swap the tunnel prts?
ports
 
@JourneymanGeek Let's try
 
then if the broken one changes, change the port of the broken one
 
@Burgi For gods sake how old are you
 
i'm shy!
 
2:20 PM
@qwertyuiop heh, age has nothing to do with that IMO
 
@JourneymanGeek RDP still works, HTTP doesn't. So it's not the port number
 
<bursts in> Is the HTTP service hosted by IIS?
 
@qwertyuiop i could say the same about you based on monday afternoon....
 
@Burgi Hehe. Nice riposte
 
any advice on this answer?
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bordeltabernacleI realise this is an old question, but I had a similar problem where all the text was too small; status bar, tabs, folder/file tree etc. The answer was to add "dpi_scale": 2.0 to my Sublime Prefs, as detailed here

 
2:28 PM
@Bob Noooooooooooooooooooooo
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop ?
 
@Burgi WhenwasMonday afternoon?
What iswrongwith amy spacebar
 ,cvl.,bn
Problem solved.
 
who is amy spacebar?
 
11 hours ago, by Bob
Spectre X2, w/ Core m7 & 512 GB SSD. $1240.
Noooooooooooooooooo!
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop Why no? o.o
 
2:30 PM
Because Monday afternoon!
 
Bob
o.O
Is that a "no, don't buy it" or a ... actually I have no idea
I'm so confused
 
That's what she said
It's a no don't buy it because it's an X2
 
!!what
 
Bob
 
2:32 PM
!!dave JourneymanGeek
 
trouts @JourneymanGeek around a bit with a large @Dave!
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop What's wrong with the X2?
 
@Bob It's an X2
 
@BenN No
 
Bob
o_o
I'm not following
 
2:33 PM
beats the fear of god into @qwertyuiop with a monkfish
 
Bob
Any particular reason the X2 is bad?
 
Detachable 2-in-1's, especially if you want a larger machine, are generally shitty
Which is why in general there are no larger detachable 2-in-1s
 
2 days ago, by DavidPostill
@qwertyuiop If you have to ask a question like that you are probably too out of it to even think about an interview.
 
@Burgi Think? What's think?
What's DavidPostill's think got to do with your girls in the office?
 
what you do if you need to decide if you even need to ask a question like that
 
2:37 PM
@Burgi I suggest you ignore the troll.
 
i was
we need a !!goat
 
TIL my company does the fizzbuzz test
 
A question like what?
How old he is to be blushing about girls in the office instead of just talking to them?
 
People can do that at any age
 
:30044735
2 days ago, by qwertyuiop
Should I wear a condom during this interview?
 
2:39 PM
Not if they're so old they experience cardiovascular collapse!
 
!!xkcd 463
 
they can blush. Then they can die.
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop Ah, it's detachable? urk.
Yea, I have one and it's not great :\
Hm.
 
In addition to emotional triggers, other causes of blushing can include:

alcohol
hot or spicy foods
hot drinks
a high temperature (fever)
sudden hot or cold temperatures
strenuous exercise
certain medical conditions or medication
 
Bob
2:40 PM
OTOH, it's effectively what a Surface Pro is.
 
@Bob That's what the X2 means
The 360 flip ones are called the X360
 
@BenN lol
 
@BenN there's an XKCD for everything
 
@Bob There's a reason the Surface Pro only comes in "a tad small" screen sizes
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop Eh, I think 12" is still usable as a tablet
 
2:42 PM
@qwertyuiop "fun sized"
 
Bob
Maybe just a bit small to read as a laptop.
 
since I'll prolly never buy a >12 inch laptop ever again
 
Bob
But, yea. Thanks for the warning. I'll probably stay away from this one.
 
@ChatBotJohnCavil And the teacher blames his teaching errors on his condom...
@Bob You said itself it's a tad small
I ASSUMED YOU MEANT WHAT YOU SAID :-((((
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop I meant a tad small since I was originally looking for 13". But my brother said he actually wanted 12" more :P
 
2:43 PM
13-14" convertibles are IMO the best size for me. At least they're my target area
Especially with next-gen dGPUs that can easily play Crysis
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop What's the new "crysis"? :P
(for "but can it run")
 
@Bob It's still Crysis
 
Bob
Huh.
Not, say, AotS?
 
Though if you were really forward looking, I'd say Star Citizen
 
Bob
Is that one even at release yet?
 
2:46 PM
No but the previews/demos are raping high-end hardware already
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop Yea... I'm kinda torn between wanting a full-size laptop to use at home (the XPS 15 looks nice) or a little one that's more portable.
 
Burgi goes around sniffing girls in the office?! WTF
 
Bob
My current one is kinda in the middle... 13", powerful, but still quite bulky/thick.
 
@Bob XPS 13?
 
@Bob I'm trying to convince my brother not to replace his desktop replacement laptop with another one ;p
 
2:47 PM
Do you want convertible? If not then you have a huge amount more choice
.
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop I rarely use things in tablet mode anyway. But I've been eyeing the cheap ~$200 Chinese convertibles for the portable role.
 
Pizza Hut does a good Macaroni Cheese
 
Bob
ideally it'd be a Core M of some sort. But that instantly pushes it up to at least $600...
 
Well if you're not too fussed about convertibles, Gigabyte have a decent range of 13-14" machines with powerful internals that are still thin, light, and have great battery life
 
Bob
o.O
Never used (or seen) a Gigabyte laptop
 
2:49 PM
If you don't care about gaming, Lenovo and Dell's ultrabooks are great too
Well that's one model from last year
 
Bob
Yea, that's kinda why I wanted to go with two separate devices this time around :P
 
razer blade stealth!
;p
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop That's basically a beefed up version of my current one (W230SS).
 
That's their newer model
@Bob I thought you said you had an XPS 15
 
@Bob what's that
 
2:50 PM
The Gigabyte ones are beefed down if you know what I mean (a lot thinner)
 
lol. I just had a recruiter offering a job in the Czech Republic
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop I said it looks nice, as in I'm considering it :P
 
you'r a genius.
 
Bob
@jokerdino A terrible ad
 
yer a genious arry
 
2:51 PM
@jokerdino It's his genius detector, written by an obviously jealous non-genius
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop They look nice, but they're again kinda in that awkward slightly too big to carry and slightly too small to use comfortably at home
 
going to visit some of Bob's rooms and kick him out. brb
 
@Bob Too big to carry? :-o
In a bag or in your hand?
 
Bob
Probably looking at 10"-13" to leave in the bag
@jokerdino Oi!
Leave my rooms alone!
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> Discussion on question by Bryan McClure: What can the government do with its clone army after the war is won?
Discussion on answer by mark kirby: Does Ubuntu damage USB drives?
Discussion on answer by Wally: What are the programming and computer references in Steins;Gate?
Discussion on question by Edison: How to divide large bank notes into smaller ones while traveling?
Discussion on question by Lumberjack: How can I help my direct report to understand he is not being micromanaged?
Room for Bob and jokerdino
 
2:53 PM
@qwertyuiop 13"-14" usually requires 2 hands
 
last posted 441d ago. Pls.
 
What the
 
Bob
@jokerdino Hey, if your problem is with the UI complain to SE...
 
> A last option, although not one I particularly recommend for other reasons (RSI injuries in particular) would be to get a job filling jars in an artisan scale canning/bottling plant. A friend of mine does that and after several years has bulked up his arms to the point he was able to use my 15x70 binoculars with 1 hand the way an average person could do with a light weight 5x35 pair
 
that's a new one
 
2:53 PM
0_0
 
@JourneymanGeek But does it stop the shaking ;)
 
@Bob Meh, 14"'s can be easily left in a bag
Adds a bit of weight though but the size is basically un-noticeable
 
@Bob I used to have an (older/bulkier) 14" as my daily laptop.
not TOO bad
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop I usually carry a pretty small bag these days :P
 
like a purse?
 
Bob
2:55 PM
A slim 14" could probably fit, but it'd be to the point where I'd worry about breaking it.
@jokerdino ...small backpack.
 
@Bob My bag is small on the side of laptop bags but fits a 14" just fine, and a 14+13" at a stretch
 
@jokerdino heh, for quite a while my usual bag was one of those little army dispatch bags
AKA the manliest handbag ever
 
Like I said though, those new Gigabyte gaming laptops are extremely thin
But if you want ultra ultra thin and ultra light, there's always the X1 carbon
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop I got tired of carrying a bulky bag around. Actually, I'm on the verge of not bothering with a bag at all.
 
2:56 PM
@qwertyuiop pricy tho?
 
Bob
^ :P
If money wasn't a problem? Sure!
 
@qwertyuiop What you do in your spare time is your business
 
Bob
@qwertyuiop tbh that doesn't look much thinner than my old one
 
Also it's a lot cheaper than the Stinkpad X1 Yoga with OLED display
 
Bob
2:58 PM
> weighs 1.89Kg and measures 335(W) x 250(D) x 19.9(H)mm
 
(and that of whoever handled the flag on that)
a thinkpad X2xx would be a lot cheaper
 
X2xx is a bit thicker and heavier IIRC
But then again it's a 12"
So maybe not?
Goddammit where the hell are the OLED displays.
 
but something like a grand cheaper?
 
Pound is costlier than USD, right?
 
Dell, Alienware, Lenovo all announced OLEDs back in January and not one is available to buy yet
 
Bob
2:59 PM
My old one:
>

Dimensions (W x D x H)
25 x 38 x 2.65 cm

Weight
Starting at 2.4 kg
 
@jokerdino Yeah, £1 = $1.5 USD or so
 

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