Root Access

Bob

2:00 PM

What I'm getting from that is if I sell it to someone else, I can use the OEM licence on it.

Journeyman Geek

Sounds about right.

Bob

Hm... wonder what happens if they sell it back to me? :P

Probably would count as dishonest if it ever came to a court case.

Nick

@tereško Nah, nah, I already got two screens and a CPU. I just lost its hardrive. It's been a few months. Need to buy a new one that's all. By the way, RasPi ain't so good to run windows... ok, even ubuntu lags a bit on it.

Journeyman Geek

do you run lunux?

tereško

emm .. CPU?

Bob

2:02 PM

@JourneymanGeek So... yea. Legally/licence-wise gotta do a bit more than get a SATA cable :P

Journeyman Geek

just grab a USB drive and boot off it.

tereško

so you lost ram, mobo, drives, case, psu, fans, wires, heatsink? ... I am getting a feeling that @Nick doesn't know what "cpu" is

Journeyman Geek

@tereško I think he means most of the desktop ;p

Bob

@tereško You can get a 2-3 year old netbook for that price off Dell outlet...

Journeyman Geek

and lol, if you were local "dude, I have a shitty hard drive. Still works, just pick it up"

"Its not even a DIOD"

Nick

2:03 PM

@JourneymanGeek No, I just lost the hard disk. The hard disk is missing.

Journeyman Geek

0_0

How does that even happen?

@tereško local parlence.

@Nick like physically missing?

Bob

199 AUD for a "Inspiron 11 3000 Series Intel Celeron Processor N3050 (2M Cache, up to 2.16 GHz)"

Refurb.

2 GB RAM and 32 GB eMMC... ow.

Journeyman Geek

or not detected?

Nick

@JourneymanGeek Yup. A shop that fixed its SMPS lost it.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob that's about the specs of my mini 11

@Nick seriously... you gotta learn to do that yourself ;p

swapping a power supply is like changing a tyre

Bob

2:04 PM

@JourneymanGeek Heh. I was kiiiiiinda considering picking it up. But 1366x768 :\

Nick

@JourneymanGeek Yeah... I should.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob yup, same as my mini 11, and x220

@Nick its not hard

Bob

@JourneymanGeek 'cept you shouldn't really change tyres yourself

Alignment and all.

Journeyman Geek

On the short term? Many angry words with the shop, and a USB boot

Bob

Actually, I have no idea how to change just the tyre O_O

Nick

2:06 PM

@JourneymanGeek Requires a screw driver that I didn't have at the time. It's like when you pay people to wash your sofa. You can do it yourself but you need stuff and you need to put in work and it may not be done right.

Bob

Changing the wheel is easy, if rather temporary.

Journeyman Geek

@Nick I have medium screwdrivers stashed everywhere ;p

Bob

@Nick You don't have a philips screwdriver?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob wheel ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Ah. Yea, wheel's easy. 'cept the alignment issue. So, temporary.

Journeyman Geek

2:07 PM

I actually know how to change a tyre but its a pain in the ass

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Do tell? :P

Wheel is pretty much wrench off the nuts, swap it out, put nuts back on.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob deflate, use a special crowbar to wedge it out. put in a new tyre with a special tool.

We rarely did it though

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Special tool sounds annoying :P

Journeyman Geek

yup

Nick

@Bob nope ;P constantly lose it. stopped buying it after a while.

Journeyman Geek

2:08 PM

the crowbar was part of a standard lada toolkit

@Nick I have a crowbar and a screwdriver stuck under my desk ;p

Bob

@Nick I have probably a dozen screwdriver bodies, half a dozen electric ones and drills and impact drivers, and maybe a couple hundred driver bits... most of them philips.

Nick

@Bob that says a lot about you :)

Bob

And that's not counting the old ones that aren't ratcheting -_-

@JourneymanGeek crowbar in your room is a biiiit odd :P

Nick

@JourneymanGeek How did you get them there?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob its the legendary crowbar

Bob

2:10 PM

Unless you're annoyed with the printer, I suppose.

Journeyman Geek

@Nick old HDD magnet taped to a table leg

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Legendary?

Nick

@JourneymanGeek The one Joker killed Jason Todd with?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob yanno

@Nick its a minor bit of SU folklore

Bob

I can't remember -_-

Nick

2:11 PM

@JourneymanGeek Oooh.

Bob

@Nick 50 or so bits cost $10... the impact driver is a godsend when removing rusted or painted on screws...

Journeyman Geek

Bob

Oh. That one :P

Journeyman Geek

this ring a bell?

@Nick I have a black and decker electrical screwdriver

Bob

Dammit... I'm eying a M.2 NVMe 950 Pro, but I don't even have M.2 slots...

Journeyman Geek

2:12 PM

also

@Bob yanno how my brother and dad are engineers?

Bob

Ya?

Journeyman Geek

they were both stumped by the volvo jack

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I tried electric screwdrivers... don't like them :(

They just keep slipping.

Journeyman Geek

(I EVENTUALLY figured out it clipped into a little ridge on the side of the car)

Bob

No idea how to actually apply force to them. Just about the worst shape ever.

Journeyman Geek

2:13 PM

@Bob I consider them the best thing since opposable thimbs.

do you use the guns or the sticks?

Nick

@JourneymanGeek I tell you, the course just doesn't cover volvo jacks.

Journeyman Geek

@Nick my dad's old school

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Nah, that'd be this thing

Journeyman Geek

he got his job as an engineer by driving a double decker bus

little big for computer work

I also have a cluebat.

Nick

@JourneymanGeek o-o I'm so jelly of your dad. I wanna start out like that too. A DOUBLE decker bus, that is so cool.

Bob

2:15 PM

@JourneymanGeek Computer work is... actually, toolless case :P

I hand-screw the rest

Journeyman Geek

@Nick actually supposedly the first one in singapore

Bob

I don't really want to strip the heads of those puny little screws

Journeyman Geek

they'd brought one in, and the local drivers were scared to drive it he was kinda like "hey, I've driven one of those" ... when he was at an interview...

Bob

Hand screwdriver, occasionally a ratcheting one if I can be bothered going to grab it

The electric ones stay unused...

Hm. Most screws I've dealt with are actually laptop screws.

Speaking of which, I need to buy some machine screws.

LOL ebay.com.au/itm/…

"random selection"

That Brazilian Guy

@qwertyuiop Imma change my name to BrazilianMcBrazilianFace

Journeyman Geek

2:23 PM

0_0

Bob

That's...

Journeyman Geek

disturbing?

Bob

→ 1 message moved to Trash

Journeyman Geek

Not Safe for Sanity?

lol

Oh, you can do that?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Only into other public rooms :\

Journeyman Geek

2:24 PM

ahh

Bob

Can't actually delete.

But this is good enough as long as it doesn't disturb people in this room.

Someone wants to go look at the trash, they do so at their own peril :P

Journeyman Geek

ahh ok

not any more

Bob

lol

ebay.com.au/itm/…

dammit

I just wanted 10. maybe 20-30.

100?!

That Brazilian Guy

Bob

...I can safely say I'm never going to run out of screws again.

Or at least until I lose the bag :P

That Brazilian Guy

2:26 PM

"Good RAtizen, I'm delighted to invite you to the city dumpster in this lovely afternoon".

Nick

@Bob Don't put all your screws in one bag. spread them out a bit.

qwertyuiop

@ThatBrazilianGuy Brazily McBrazillianFace?

Do you plan on getting a Brazillian on your Brazillian face?

Journeyman Geek

@Nick I inherited one of those small storage drawers.

Bob

Hm. Do motherboards come with standoffs?

Journeyman Geek

"Basil "Brazil" Mc Brazillianface?

qwertyuiop

2:27 PM

No, they usually come with the case

That Brazilian Guy

Zé Cara-de-Brasil

Journeyman Geek

@Bob no?

standoffs are usually part of the case

Bob

@qwertyuiop Ah, yea.

Rahul Basu

Journeyman Geek

Some motherboards come with little washers tho

Bob

2:28 PM

(I've been incrementally upgrading for a while but I've not actually built a machine from scratch :P)

That Brazilian Guy

@qwertyuiop A Brazilian.... girl? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Oh god. @qwertyuiop's creepyness is contagious.

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, we're definately taking a detour into nopesville

Bob

Protip: don't google that.

Rahul Basu

What? @qasdfdsaq got another name? :/

That Brazilian Guy

@RahulBasu (s)he changes names faster than I change avatars.

Bob

2:29 PM

> Expedited delivery from outside AU - AU $60.00

Sure. I'll pay $60 for delivery for my $1.19 of screws...

Journeyman Geek

Might be urgent!

qwertyuiop

@RahulBasu Lol just watched to the end. Was going to ask if you had some sort of problem with that wall

That Brazilian Guy

@Bob Maybe if you're the government...

Rahul Basu

@qwertyuiop ;P

qwertyuiop

That's an incredibly small GIF considering the length though

Rahul Basu

2:31 PM

that's what i thought too

qwertyuiop

Only 0.7MB despite being ten times longer than my 80MB GIFs. Must be heeaaaaavily optimized

That Brazilian Guy

@qwertyuiop It's been around for ages, way before the giphy age. In that age, people used gifs because videos were too heavy. Now people use videos because GIFs are havey. It came full circle.

Journeyman Geek

the fact that its monochrome prolly helps

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I've actually been thinking about monitors but I can't decide if I want to stick with 24" or not :P

qwertyuiop

@ThatBrazilianGuy Myyyyyyyy creepiness?

Bob

2:31 PM

(Wanted to get an IPS one at the very least...)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob Pretty happy with my dell ;p

Bob

@qwertyuiop Nah. ~~Two colour palette~~ monochrome... great for GIF size :P

Journeyman Geek

and 27 inches is a great size for one monitor.

qwertyuiop

@Bob Yeah, I did notice that

Nick

@Bob It's worse when you need overnight delivery of electronic components.

qwertyuiop

2:32 PM

One-bit colour instead of 8-bit colour

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I don't know if I can even fit 27" here -_-

Journeyman Geek

;p

qwertyuiop

But that'd still only mean the difference between 0.7MB and 5.6MB

Bob

@qwertyuiop Framerate?

qwertyuiop

@Bob Seems quite high

Bob

2:33 PM

Dammit now I'm curious.

qwertyuiop

ARGH

I feel financially insecure.

Rahul Basu

;p

That Brazilian Guy

@qwertyuiop Don't we all?

qwertyuiop

@ThatBrazilianGuy I didn't two weeks ago

Journeyman Geek

I have no money coming in at the moment ;p

Rahul Basu

2:34 PM

I never have ;p

Nick

@RahulBasu I have less.

But it's love that matters :)

Bob

@qwertyuiop 16.667 fps

qwertyuiop

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Damn that's cheap

Bob

o.O

qwertyuiop

@Bob Console/cinematic mode!

That Brazilian Guy

2:37 PM

@qwertyuiop What did you buy?

qwertyuiop

@ThatBrazilianGuy A free trial of Spotify

Shit, I forgot to buy something and I can't remember what

allquixotic

@qwertyuiop a Tesla Model X?

Bob

imadumb

qwertyuiop

@allquixotic Even if I could afford one I wouldn' tbuy one

Burgi

the government mandates you HAVE to join their crappy jobs website to begin to claim unemployment benefits. all the listings are basically just RSS feeds from the big job websites so you get loads and loads and loads of duplicates

Bob

2:38 PM

Three colours.

Black, white and transparent.

qwertyuiop

I'd prefer the Model S personally

allquixotic

@qwertyuiop fair enough; me too

qwertyuiop

@Burgi Huh, it was optional to join th ewebsite when I wa slas t on the dole

allquixotic

I'd prefer the Model $25000 slow, efficient compact sedan, personally

but that model throws a NullPointerException atm

Bob

@qwertyuiop Seems a large part of it is the low resolution :P

qwertyuiop

2:39 PM

Oh the model formerly known as model E?

allquixotic

unless you want about 70 miles range from a Chevy Spark EV or something

they should introduce a Model T in homage to Ford's Model T and make it truly affordable, long range EV for the everyman

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic annoying thing is those things make a ton of sense here, and our government isn't really encouraging it.

qwertyuiop

How would T fit in in S-E-X though?

SEXT? As in modern sexting?

allquixotic

um. S-E-X-T?

Journeyman Geek

sext(ing)

qwertyuiop

2:40 PM

lol

allquixotic

yeah ;p

qwertyuiop

Hmm. I think Elon Musk hinted at the next one possibly being named model Y

allquixotic

there will be a lot of sexting while driving with these self-driving cars

Bob

Journeyman Geek

I mean, you could throw in a plug in charger (and we have infrastructure for charging folks) into carparks here, especially since most folks have covered multistory carparks.

qwertyuiop

2:41 PM

Once they eventually get some rural 4G coverage around here

@Bob That warning triangle is really helping

Burgi

@qwertyuiop not any more

Journeyman Geek

ahh china

allquixotic

@qwertyuiop I read some warning signs/signals/flashers/etc. as a means of saying "sorry" instead of "caution", and this appears to be one of those cases

Bob

lol

allquixotic

like those giant trucks hauling huge items down the road that take up like two and a half lanes of the highway, which are required to have spotter cars in front of and behind them and can only do 20 mph up a hill in a 55 mph zone

they put on all their flashers as if to say "sorry you're going to be late for work because of this shit"

Bob

2:44 PM

@allquixotic Aren't they specifically scheduled off peak hours?

allquixotic

@Bob lol, hell no... I've seen them rolling down the road with rush-hour traffic

qwertyuiop

@Burgi I guess I won't bother going back on the dole this time then...

Burgi

also all the agencies i joined a month ago are now starting to call me back...

qwertyuiop

Even without that shitty website it's demeaning as hell

Journeyman Geek

heh

Our local jobs bank is optional (we don't get unemployment benefits here) and quite useless

Bob

2:47 PM

@JourneymanGeek None at all? o.O

"No job? go starve."

allquixotic

my Jetpack (AC791L) has so much better signal strength than my phone

Journeyman Geek

yup

Rahul Basu

JETPACK? O_o

Journeyman Geek

@RahulBasu cellular hotspot thing

allquixotic

also, this is really sad, but the Internet connection on 4G LTE with my hotspot in a marginal signal strength area (in the basement of an office) is far better than the speed of a landline provided by the company

even during off hours. so it's not a contention issue, the network just sucks

Journeyman Geek

2:52 PM

@allquixotic the hotspot may have better antennae?

Burgi

@qwertyuiop depends if you need help paying rents etc

its all lumped into universal credits now

qwertyuiop

@Burgi Urgh

I remember getting ESA, that was slightly more tolerable than JSA

Y'know in Finland you get €900 a month in out-of-work benefits and you don't even have to be in the country?

Burgi

3:07 PM

move to finland?

qwertyuiop

I don't speak Finnish

And I'm sure there's some residency requirements and you can't just move there to scrounge benefits.

Guitar Shoe Dave

3:24 PM

@Nick: those files arent corrupt, they're likely opened by other users. (ie they're lock files)

qwertyuiop

He's been told that by two people already :-P

Nick

@qwertyuiop Yeah, and they are corrupt. Still on a hunt for the virus though. A LOT of my files have been "zombified" like this.

qwertyuiop

Virus? Oh no! :-o

Bob

@Nick smells a bit like ransomeware

Restore from backup and be done with it...

DavidPostill

3:39 PM

@Burgi Join the club ...

qwertyuiop

Dammit I wanna go to Sushiya

That Brazilian Guy

@qwertyuiop What happened?

@Bob I WANT IT! ...wait, is that an ice cream cone? eew !!no

tereško

@Nick I have a strong suspicion that it's not a virus

That Brazilian Guy

It finnally happened. I just opened a ticket with a .docx screenshot.

qwertyuiop

I have a strong suspicion I agree

tereško

3:45 PM

my impression is that someone deleted your files and just copied shit from %TEMP% to cover up that mistake

allquixotic

4:15 PM

@JourneymanGeek sure seems like it

message I wrote to a colleague who asked me to review a contrived project he worked on in Java to evaluate his technique in Java/OOP:

> You used core OO concepts but no design patterns of note, which is
like observing a driver successfully park a car in a parking spot
(regular pull-in, not parallel park), when that same driver has never
driven on a public road before.

@Bob might appreciate my keen analogy ;p

Burgi

my phone has been going mental with job agencies this afternoon

allquixotic

@Burgi better than your mind going phoneal

Burgi

not sure what that would be like... ;)

allquixotic

well basically if you became a mindless automaton with incredible mathematics and rendering abilities and dependence on a battery for "life", you'd be a phone

Burgi

would i vibrate?

3

qwertyuiop

4:28 PM

@Burgi And you don't like them? Or are you still waiting for the guys to get back to you about the interview you had last week.

@allquixotic will he have fast charge?

Burgi

both

last weeks interview should call me back tomorrow

and (most) agencies are a little bit like used cars salesmen, if you understand me

That Brazilian Guy

6:49 PM

@Burgi You mean job agencies?

yes

dodgy as hell?

yup

yer

the big ones like harvey nash etc are ok

That Brazilian Guy

6:55 PM

To be honest, I don't even know what job agencies do.

I mean, a business place has an opening and need to hire someone, they post the opening somewhere with a list of requirements, candidates send their resumes and then get interviews and then get hired or not.

What's the part of the agencies in all that? And in what consists their dodginess?

DavidPostill

Although I'm currently looking for a job I detest the way these agencies operate:
1/ grab your CV for some random place
2/ Sign you up to their website without permission
3/ Use some random crap buzzword algorithm to spam you jobs that don't match your CV 4/

4/ "Apologies if you are no longer looking for work or if this role doesn't apply to you. Please feel free to forward on this email to anyone you know who may be suitable." - in other words please do my job for me never mind I don't have a job for you.

Burgi

sounds about right

allquixotic

lol

DavidPostill

I have a standard reply that goes along the lines of:

Please don't waste my time with unsuitable vacancies.

And by the way, I have had no prior contact with your company and suddenly I find myself subscribed without my permission?

Do you know that is illegal?

"The Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations 2003 cover the sending of email marketing. This legislation says that organisations must only send marketing emails to individuals if you have agreed to receive them, except where there is a clearly defined customer relationship."

Burgi

@ThatBrazilianGuy the theory is that you don't waste your time sifting through CVs and applications, you pay someone else to do and then end up with a supposedly higher quality candidate

DavidPostill

7:01 PM

Along with other pithy words depending on the exact content of their spam. Like:

"Looks like you are buzzword matching just like every other recruiter.

If you actually read my CV you will see that I last used blah blah in 2000 (15 years ago). That doesn't make me a "blah blah Specialist" which is a requirement of the job.

I suppose that means you are just spamming people without even bothering to read their CVs."

I occasionally get an apology ...

That Brazilian Guy

Some recruiter sent a canned message to the guy who created Ruby on Rails: gist.github.com/dhh/1285068

DavidPostill

There are thousands of recruitment agencies in the UK. They are like sharks circling to get a bite of something ...

Guitar Shoe Dave

@ThatBrazilianGuy: yeah i remember reading about that 5 years ago

DavidPostill

@ThatBrazilianGuy Awesome ;)

allquixotic

7:17 PM

well, time to learn JMS

That Brazilian Guy

JourneymanScript?

allquixotic

Java Message Service - it's an API

I already know JourneymanScript

it's English without appropriately-placed apostrophes, British spellings of words, "lol", "XD", and "ahh"

That Brazilian Guy

@allquixotic and a tiny ammount of dsilexya

allquixotic

7:37 PM

lol

That Brazilian Guy

I'm learning firebase for the hackathon.

I dont know JS or jQuery. LOL T_T

Ohhhhh there's a firebase-based (firebasebased? firebased?) geolocation API

allquixotic

lol

firebase-based

what if there's a "base daemon" for firebase? it would be called firebase-based. /etc/init.d/firebase-based start

so if there was then a plugin to the firebase-based, it would be firebase-based-based

Michael Frank

@allquixotic You missed ;p

allquixotic

7:55 PM

oh, right

that's the most important one!

I would argue that Root Access is a personality cult built around JourneymanGeek for the most part

9

but at the same time I enjoy it

qwertyuiop

8:48 PM

...

allquixotic

8:59 PM

it's a good kind of personality cult ;p

see, there I go using ;p

I should start using monospaced and italicized (:

it's six characters but if I can memorize them it should be easy to type it (: ... asterisk backtick left parenthesis colon backtick asterisk

does it look better in bold?

qwertyuiop

9:14 PM

Stitching-up claimants is all part of the job, says Jobcentre insider

@Burgi ^^

Burgi

about right

fixer1234

Hey, all. Just looking for help encouraging a new user. They posted a self-answered question several days ago to spare others a convoluted learning experience and problems upgrading a notebook to Win 10. The original version wasn't clear. It got dumped on with downvotes and put on hold. I've been helping them in chat and cleaned up the question and answer.

Anybody so inclined, please check out superuser.com/questions/1076640/…. Consider voting to reopen and offsetting the downvotes. Thanks.

Michael Frank

Uurgh.. Why are Samsung's apps so bad?

Ramhound

9:33 PM

@fixer1234 vote to reopen issued

DavidPostill

@fixer1234 I have blocked quoted the 2nd part of answer as it is directly copied from the link in the answer. Also upvoted and Voted to reopen.

Ramhound

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Q: Where can I find a copy of: (Windows-10-Home-1511-1586-64-bit) :ISO File (or) Windows Installation DVD

My HP 2000 notebook pc upgraded to windows 10 home (2015) version 1511 (os build 10586.36) 64-bit (product id 0036-10000-00000-AA788) succesfully. My computer automatically downloaded and installed upgrade (thru the internet),so I DON'T HAVE a Windows Installation DVD (or) ISO File of the upgrade...

Duplicate of his other question that is closed.

Ben N

VtR'd, VtC'd as appropriate

Ramhound

@Ramhound im not a windows user, I am stuck with it for now, I don't know batch nor powershell, so I haven't attempted anything, if I don't get an answer by tomorrow then I guess I'll be on my own, I'll move everything to linux and do it using python, perl or bash. windows is not my comfort zone. — Lynob 12 mins ago

User hasn't even tried to write it themselves

hyperj123

Hi everyone

Ramhound

9:46 PM

Wrong link!

fixer1234

@Ramhound Tough decision. Vote to close as off-topic or vote to close as a duplicate??? Done.

Ramhound

0

Q: Move file recursively to parent folder

I'm on windows 10, I need a batch script or a powershell script to solve this problem. I have downloaded the flash tv series, the structure looks like this flash tv series folder episode 1 folder episode 2 folder episode 3 folder ... And the movie files are inside the episodes folders alo...

batch powershell vlc-media-player

0

Q: Zero day protection recommendations

I am curious to know what the more experienced users out there use for their zero day malware protection? I am currently using a particular AV that is great for signature detection-and very light as well- but not so good for zero day....Thanks!!