Root Access

Bob

12:00 AM

@Annaduh He's been talking about NMS for days now

Burgi

everything on this planet is trying to damn well kill me

the last patch made it good

but deeply frustrating as even less of the game is now explained

Anna duh

@Bob National Museum of Scotland?

Network Management Station?

Oh, No man's sky

Didn't he have a ragy fit about how shit that game was?

I appear to have confused today with tomorrow

DavidPostill

lol

29

Q: Server admin sent me their private key. Why?

I'm kind of new to ssh so forgive me if this is a stupid question. I'm supposed to be accessing a server in order to link a company's staging and live servers into our deployment loop. An admin over on their side set up the two instances and then created a user on the server for us to ssh in as....

allquixotic

@Annaduh no, that was me!

and I still think it's shit

Burgi

i did rage quit back in september but the last patch added all the stuff they had left out

@allquixotic have you tried the foundation patch?

Bob

12:16 AM

@DavidPostill faiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil

It's not that the other admin "could be made to look like an idiot". It's that the other admin did something idiotic. I can only think of one scenario under which a private key should be shared between machines, and that's where a pool of servers are accessed via the same name (round-robin DNS resolution etc.) and must present the same SSH Host Key so that automated processes will accept that they are that name. And in that case, the same person would be an admin of all of the servers, and would handle the transfers without an outside party being involved. — Monty Harder 6 hours ago

Anna duh

12:28 AM

I've heard this "Email isn't a secure medium" jazz so many times but tbh, it really isn't that bad anymore

In most cases the major providers all use SSL between the end user and their servers and comparable security between themselves too

It's nowhere near as insecure as public wifi for example, and even then you'd have to be really unlucky or be specifically targeted by serious criminals to actually come to any harm

Journeyman Geek

@Bob almost, but not quite. In their infinite wisdom, and mine, I bought a watch that runs a custom android respin that's quite similar to android watch

and it feels like they're fundamentally different from what the pebble would be.

Anna duh

Granted while it's not exactly a super secure medium by any means, it's still a hell of a lot more secure than a text message, letter, or phone call

Journeyman Geek

"letter"

Hand delivered on magnificently inflammable paper!

having it in some flavour of encrypted/encryptable container would be a nice touch

Anna duh

Yet most banks are perfectly happy sending your PIN number by mail, as if it's somehow the gold standard in "security"

Just like paypal and UPS will use an IRL letter to "verify" your bank details or identity

Journeyman Geek

12:44 AM

@Annaduh Its usually reasonably tamper evident, and they expect you to change it immediately

Anna duh

Most of my banks won't even let me set my PIN online, and only one lets me actually view it too

Journeyman Geek

I do mine at an ATM machine, like a plebian

Anna duh

Well if you've forgotten it, a letter is the only way to get a new one for most of my cards

Journeyman Geek

I may need to change my OTP generator at some point ._.

Anna duh

I want OTP for RDP, dammit Microsoft

Journeyman Geek

12:50 AM

I want u2f for login and other things ;p

Bob

@Annaduh pretty sure you can do something like that via MFA via ADFS

Anna duh

There's a third party thing that supports Google's OTP thing

Bob

@JourneymanGeek yea, there's no good replacement :(

and I wanted to get a Time 2 too :\

Journeyman Geek

I'd be shocked if no one else made an epaper smartwatch

Anna duh

But others make you pay for like SMS notification and stuff

Michael Frank

1:06 AM

I always wanted a pebble, ever since the Kickstarter... Just didn't have the cash to drop at the time and eventually I forgot about it.

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank I guess if you actually wore a watch normally, and it wasn't a fancy one, a smartwatch makes a ton of sense

the pedometer and notifications are handy. Its nice not having to pull your phone out to see the time

Other than that, there's no killer feature for me

Michael Frank

I have three watches that I don't wear regularly. heh

Bob

1:22 AM

@JourneymanGeek ecosystem

@JourneymanGeek Pedometer is meh. My phone can do that too.

Notifications are the main use. And a watch that doesn't slowly lose time/need to be DST-adjusted.

And music control.

Pebble was the major one in the "watch + extras" category.

Fitbit, Garmin are all fitness crap, and lacking in both watch and extras. Well, Garmin has the watch part down alright.

Android Wear is more like "mini-phone + half-arsed watch"

bwDraco

I would much rather have a traditional watch. I'm not into replacing a timepiece every two years.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco a ton of options there

bwDraco

(on the subway right now)

Journeyman Geek

I'm not convinced smartwatches have a killer app right now

Michael Frank

The killer app for smartwatches is cool watchfaces.

Anna duh

1:32 AM

!!caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

ChatBot John Cavil

Anna duh

And cat pictures

Bob

1:49 AM

@JourneymanGeek Eh. I occasionally use the sleep as android one. But that's why I said extras.

@JourneymanGeek The more important part is continuing support. Those little no-name manufacturers? They're more likely to fold than Pebble was.

And the software is usually shit. Especially on the Android app side.

Journeyman Geek

That's a thing

and I'm waiting to see if the concept survives

Bob

Heck, not just shit but totally dodgy security and privacy wise.

@bwDraco Meh, depends what you want from it.

The replacement part isn't a problem for me.

Just battery life per charge. Weekly charge was the sweet spot.

Journeyman Geek

yup

and that's unlikely on most devices

Bob

The vibrate-on-notification was/is pretty useful. Probably my primary reason to have one now.

@JourneymanGeek The problem is the few who do it are definitely not major players.

I could kiiiiinda see Samsung, Sony, Asus with long term support.

Anna duh

Fuck

Journeyman Geek

1:52 AM

@Bob its pretty damned hard outside epaper

Bob

Even then I doubt they'd be as good as Pebble was on the software side.

Journeyman Geek

and sony's the only one who does an epaper watch

Bob

They're mostly relying on Google for the app.

@JourneymanGeek They do?

Which one?

Journeyman Geek

wareable.com/sony/…

Bob

> Sony's original e-paper FES watch never made it out of Japan

bleh

> isn't a smartwatch in the traditional sense, it's more like a connected watch

bleh. back to ecosystem troubles

> The app is iPhone-only for now which is ... odd.

epic fail

@JourneymanGeek lacks notifications too

Journeyman Geek

1:55 AM

@Bob on the longer term though, that working out is your best bet

Bob

@JourneymanGeek possibly. or I might need to bite the bullet and go with AW

daily charge and all

Journeyman Geek

the current samsung ones look nice

pricy tho

Bob

I was planning on getting a Time 2 sometime next year, possibly second half

but I might need to push those plans up, depending on what happens to the Pebble app now

@JourneymanGeek Tizen

I'm not sure how well that'd mesh with non-Samsung phones

Sure, I'm on a Samsung phone now, but I don't really like lock-in -_-

Journeyman Geek

pebble seems to be essentially dead

allquixotic

@Bob I'm plowing forward with kynnaugh-cpp

Bob

1:57 AM

Pebble was worth the risk, at the $100-$200 range

@JourneymanGeek It most definitely is dead

Tizen at $600? noooope

Journeyman Geek

yeah, same reason I went with the tickwatch

Bob

@allquixotic oh, did you get libflac working?

allquixotic

@Bob I'm going for QtGstreamer, since I already know the gstreamer API and can do anything I want with it because it's so flexible (including possibly in some future Google Speech API expansion, maybe uploading Opus data to save bandwidth if it can still recognize accurately)

Bob

ah

Journeyman Geek

fairly reasonable, but seperate appstore for watchfaces and stuff, the ecosystem is meh, and well, its chinese

Bob

1:58 AM

@allquixotic I was actually thinking of linking your existing code up with the C# encoder :P

Journeyman Geek

excellent built quality tho

Bob

Apparently Qt works fine with C++/CLI

allquixotic

@Bob I'm currently stuck trying to compile grpc for Windows

Bob

@allquixotic Your current Qt/C++ code - does everything work except the encoder?

allquixotic

I didn't have any problem compiling grpc on Linux, but I'm now trying to dev on Windows, and I'll need a build eventually because googleapis depends on it, so if I continue with this I'll need it at some point

Anna duh

1:59 AM

Since when did Haggis become a room topic

allquixotic

@Bob no, the googleapis code is totally untested... though linkage-wise it's fine on Linux

Journeyman Geek

@Annaduh You didn't do the haggis safety dance.

Bob

@allquixotic Well, as long as the TS3 stuff works, if you wanted to go the C++/CLI route then the googleapis calls can be completely on the managed side

Journeyman Geek

12 hours ago, by Burgi

we should get @Annaduh to do the sacred haggis prevention dance

It started here chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/33964943#33964943

allquixotic

@Bob :S

that's not a clean solution

Bob

2:02 AM

@allquixotic How so?

Anna duh

@JourneymanGeek I'm Scottish. There's no such thing as an unsafe haggis

Bob

It's effectively the same as what I was planning with unmanagedexports, except the C exports are implemented in custom C++ rather than autogenned

@allquixotic if you compile as C++/CLI, I think you can literally do a char *flacBytes = PcmToFlac.PcmToFlac::Convert(pcmBytes, channels);

Journeyman Geek

@Annaduh on the contrary, no haggis is safe in scotland.

Bob

Actually, I'll test that when I get home

Anna duh

@JourneymanGeek You've clearly never met one.

Journeyman Geek

2:13 AM

All haggis is safe from me.

For that noble beast, I shall not partake of.

Anna duh

You've also clearly never met a scotsman or woman skilled with a haggis

allquixotic

@Bob how's C++/CLI support on CoreCLR on Linux and MacOS?

Bob

@allquixotic Nonexistent. Mixed-mode binaries are a MSVC++ thing.

You can emulate it by hosting CoreCLR manually, though.

Mono is a better bet; I'm not sure if this FLAC lib works on CoreCLR

Actually, lemme check

It miiiiiiiiight just work

hm... this'll take a while, I need to update VS to use .NET Core

Journeyman Geek

facebook.com/SOSDSingapore/photos/…

> Complaints against SOSD, Uber and the event have been made to SPCA and media outlets, with some likening the initiative to prostitution and sexual services.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?

Michael Frank

SOSD?

Journeyman Geek

2:25 AM

Save our street dogs

Anna duh

Silly old singaporean dogs

Journeyman Geek

they're good folk - they basically rescue street dogs, and rehome them

Michael Frank

Oh, is that like UberEats, but for puppies?

Journeyman Geek

Its something they do every year in many places

Bob

@JourneymanGeek people.

people is wrong with people

Journeyman Geek

2:27 AM

I mean 1) It helps the puppies socialise, which massively helps them when they get adopted, they're puppies that are ok with people, and it makes people happy, unless you hate dogs

Anna duh

> We would like to reassure everyone that SOSD selected dogs very carefully for the UberPuppies event, making sure that only the puppies who enjoy human interaction participate.

Only puppies already OK with people are allowed to be with people

Hmm

Journeyman Geek

Well, a lot of dogs are skittish, and I've heard of stories of rescue pups getting excessively stressed.

Anna duh

2:41 AM

Well, I'm a cat, so all I can suggest is... have you tried turning them off and back on again?

Bob

@Annaduh That's what you do with cats, not dogs

Ramhound

2:53 AM

-2

Q: Do you or your members ever help people

I need help . You need ? to possibly help me? Or has my "Administrator" paid for someones help and you can not help me? I will respect whatever you decide. I am very ill. and have small chance to communicate as admin controlls all . I am not sure if it is you or my rogue edian admin. pls rspv. ma...

kali-linux mozilla-firefox-devtools

Anna duh

3 hours as 4g wifi hotspot with constant use, 20% battery drain on my Z3C

Michael Frank

Yus! I was the vote that broke the camels back!

Journeyman Geek

3:11 AM

@Ramhound his other post is wierd too

Journeyman Geek

3:23 AM

annd... troll? webcache.googleusercontent.com/…

Bob

3:59 AM

@allquixotic github.com/filoe/cscore/issues/94

soooo, not happening unless I find a different lib to resample the PCM

looks like CSCore depends a fair bit on winmm, msdmo, etc

oh wow, this is ... pretty thorough codeproject.com/articles/501521/…

@allquixotic ^ you could implement that in C++ and chuck it through libflac

hmmm github.com/ArcticEcho/Wav.Net

urk, GPL

then again, this would replace CSCore, so no more MS-PL...

huh

ChatExchange.Net has 4.66k downloads from NuGet

allquixotic

@Bob what's that?

Journeyman Geek

4:15 AM

.net library for interaction with se chat.

Oo

allquixotic

interesting

does it need a browser?

Bob

@allquixotic github.com/ArcticEcho/ChatExchange.Net

Journeyman Geek

Nope. I believe smokey runs on a Python equivalent

Bob

Funnily enough ArcticEcho also did Wav.Net, which I'm trying to use now

@allquixotic uses RestSharp

Bob

4:40 AM

@allquixotic Wav.Net ported to .NET Core :)

that was pretty easy

all tests passed

next up: flacbox

Alex Bollbach

hi

any ffmpeg users here?

Bob

@allquixotic FlacBox ported too :)

oh wait a few other exceps to fix

ah damn, .Close() wasn't in 1.6

it's currently in dev branch

.Dispose will do, I guess

Bob

5:07 AM

Hm. Ditching Wav.Net for GSF.Media

Journeyman Geek

7:07 AM

Replacement headphone band collected. In a box this time so should be fine. Amusingly shipping address is wrong despite multiple reminders....

karel

@JourneymanGeek A comment suggests that this question: Where do virtual networking adaptors and software like WinPcap fall into the OSI model? is off topic, but I like it anyway. However before I upvote it, is this a legitimate question?

Journeyman Geek

ramhound's comment is bogus

dosen't belong on security

that looks HNQ material

Bob

7:45 AM

@allquixotic github.com/Elusive138/PcmToFlacCore

not quite working yet but I'm done tearing my hair out over it

Journeyman Geek

\o/

Old headphones fixed

djsmiley2k

/me looks in

It's so hot in the offie right now we have the window open

admitly the temp has jumped over 10C in 24 hr

bit still, sweltering

Journeyman Geek

(actually, I swapped the headband from the newer pair to the older pair, installed the new headband on the newer pair)

Boris_yo

Why does Tp Link travel router have power cable with 2 USB inputs?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek heh. I kinda want to answer but I'm not sure I can flesh it out enough

Journeyman Geek

7:55 AM

@Bob I'd assume that a virtual network adaptor is a physical layer

Boris_yo

Journeyman Geek

also, that no one really uses the 7 layer model any more

djsmiley2k

on windows at least I think it adds a physical adaptor

Bob

@JourneymanGeek actually my answer was gonna be along the lines of "OSI is wrong"

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo some USB devices use 2 USB ports to get more power. some of them will draw small power through the one that is also the data connection, then draw most power from the secondary one.

Boris_yo

8:01 AM

@Psycogeek This guy connects only 1 USB plug:

How to Connect & Configure a Wireless Router : TP-LINK TL-MR3020 & ALL : Wifi

►

Assuming USB port is 0.5A and router requires 1A then 2 cables must be used.

So that would explaine it.

Psycogeek

yea it shows connecting to one, but these some devices again, like take my lighted keyboard, work fine in ONE 3.0 higher power port, and probably work with one 2.0 on most computers.

but for safety plugging to 2 different ports, and drawing about half the power from each is "safer"

Boris_yo

I have external battery pack. I could connect this router to it but I can't because power bank outputs through Micro USB port. Will I need to find Micro USB male to Micro USB male?

djsmiley2k

You sure the powerpack can deliver enough amps?

Journeyman Geek

> outputs through Micro USB port

That's not right.

djsmiley2k

mine charges via the micro usb, and then has 2 normal female usb's for providing power

but I'd presume you 'could' output power via any fromat port

Journeyman Geek

8:10 AM

@Bob tried to answer ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I have lots of fun little quotes I want to put in an answer, but would feel too forced :P

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo if you had a power bank that OUTputs via a micro, then how did you charge your phone with it ?

Boris_yo

@djsmiley2k I have Xiaomi 10,000mAh

Bob

"data is data", "These models are theoretical. Now, in theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice..."

Boris_yo

Only 1 Micro USB output though. I think it's "smart" power bank.

Psycogeek

8:14 AM

yea brilliant :-)

Boris_yo

But min is 2A which might burn router.

Bob

...that's not how it works

Boris_yo

Not sure if more than 5V poses risk.

Psycogeek

as long as the voltage is correct,

Bob

that's not how any of this works

Boris_yo

8:15 AM

@Bob I have charger which came with it but I want to see if it works with battery pack.

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo I am pretty sure the micro connector is for charging it

@Bob I do this all the time tho ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek but you make it work

anyway, bit of a moot point now that you've answered it

Journeyman Geek

lol

Unless you can post a better one ;)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek it'll probably cover mostly the same as yours

Journeyman Geek

ah, alas

Bob

8:25 AM

I'm not really a fan of answering just to add a little bit

Journeyman Geek

TIL, every single p6 derived PC is family 6

Bob

eh, I'll take a closer look when I get home :P maybe there'll be something to add

@JourneymanGeek backwards compat?

Journeyman Geek

naw

literally same lineage

family 7 is itanic, family 15 is netburst

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Indeed but I am concerned with 2.0A and 2.1A output.

I need battery pack with at most 1A output.

Journeyman Geek

.....

Boris_yo

8:35 AM

Xiaomi will fry it.

Journeyman Geek

In that case, sure, just get a smaller battery pack with lower current charge.

I mean, I plug in lower current devices into powerpacks all the time

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek It will be hard to find one with 1.0A.

Many are smart chargers today.

Burgi

morning

hmmm...

microsoft think my account has been compromised

Bob

@Boris_yo ...current is pulled, not pushed. USB is a voltage source, not a current source

@JourneymanGeek this is just not how electricity works! -__________________________-

Boris_yo

@Bob So if router pulls how much it needs then my only concern should be excess voltage?

Bob

8:47 AM

...it's not excess

if rated voltage input is 5 V, and rated voltage output is 5 V, and rated current input is lower than rated current output...

33 mins ago, by Psycogeek

as long as the voltage is correct,

Journeyman Geek

@Bob that was sarcasm

Its not like boris actually listens right? ;p

Bob

sigh.

Journeyman Geek

(The xiomi should work fine, and not blow up anything. )

Burgi

is there a way to view log in attempts on my microsoft account?

huh...

djsmiley2k

neat

Burgi

8:55 AM

someone in india was trying to use my microsoft account

djsmiley2k

openvpn getting a security audit.

/me glances at @Rahul2001 ;)

@Burgi in the account info maybe

Burgi

they were trying to use my skype id

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi ow.

Burgi

i'll send @Rahul2001 round with an iron bar

all sorted now

Journeyman Geek

Alas, wrong state. I know a bunch of big gsds that would drown them in slobber, beat them to death with waggy tails and accidentally trash their office

Burgi

9:06 AM

that'll have to do

i've reset my yahoo account as well

Boris_yo

9:32 AM

@JourneymanGeek I listen but there is a delay between listening and integration because information is still processing.

Journeyman Geek

In that case, you should wait for things to integrate before you communicate

Burgi

10:13 AM

how do you get minions to do general admin work that is a bit dull but essential?

djsmiley2k

you say 'this is your job'

Rahul2001

Hello!

djsmiley2k

welp sometimes sitting by your manager is great

and sometimes you overhear things you really shouldn't :/

Journeyman Geek

10:29 AM

lol

Ok, got my old headphones, with the fabric earpads. Still sounds decent. So, I should be good for, maybe another 6 or so years XD

Rahul2001

Whoa, 12 parakeets sitting in a row outside!

Oliver Salzburg

@Rahul2001 Photo!

Rahul2001

Mom took away my phone as soon as I finished taking the picture (exams going on)... I'll upload the image later...

Journeyman Geek

lol

Oliver Salzburg

:D

Burgi

10:38 AM

@Rahul2001 i need you to pop round and beat the scumbag that was trying to hack my MS account with an iron bar

as an indian you obviously know all 1.4b people by name

Rahul2001

@Burgi hehe

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi It was mike.

actually, no, if it was a singaporean indian, it was totally mike.

Burgi

i like the name nimisha

Bob

@allquixotic so, I just realised neither GSF.Media nor Wav.Net do the resampling step :S

then ended up here dsp.stackexchange.com/questions/2962/…

gah

Burgi

10:55 AM

wow i didn't even know that SE existed

Journeyman Geek

11:31 AM

0

A: Open local files on Safari

Hi I'm not scarred apps your yes I my no this apps and your ok

Oh. K.

Bob

@allquixotic I think I mgiht give pure C++ a shot with libsoxr and libflac

:O

@allquixotic libsox can do FLAC encoding directly!

0

Q: Convert audio into FLAC using libsox

I am trying to programmatically convert audio in memory buffer using libSoX API. It worked fine for changing the sampling rate, for instance, but with conversion between PCM and FLAC I have certain troubles. QByteArray inData = [...]; sox_effect_t *e; char *args[10]; sox_globals.output_message_...

c++ audio sox flac libsox

that looks ridiculously simple

hey, this guy even started from a QByteArray... Qt? :P

and here's an example sourceforge.net/p/sox/code/ci/master/tree/src/example6.c

djsmiley2k

12:07 PM

-5

Q: What are the best primary and secondary schools in Dubai?

I am looking for top ranking primary and secondary school in Dubai

top

wut?

No links or anything, bot testing?

Burgi

flagged

Journeyman Geek

12:23 PM

Prolly waiting for a reply

Nuked.

djsmiley2k

12:45 PM

@JourneymanGeek you mean the bot?

who wants to teach someone about why you don't use desktop ram in servers? superuser.com/questions/1154323/does-pc-ram-can-work-on-server

Journeyman Geek

I'm convinced most of those involve it sweatshops

djsmiley2k

they wait for a reply then spam you mean?

Journeyman Geek

Yup

They plant a seed question then someone answers

djsmiley2k

yawwwwwwwwwwwn

on lunch and bored :/

I'm thinking I've got 10 min, maybe I can login to myserver and maybe improve my backup scripts a bit

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek What do you mean

DavidPostill

12:56 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy People paid peanuts to spam everywhere.

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy pretty much what @DavidPostill said

DavidPostill

Sweatshop

Sweatshop (or sweat factory) is a pejorative term for a workplace that has poor, socially unacceptable working conditions. The work may be difficult, dangerous, or underpaid. Workers in sweatshops may work long hours with low pay, regardless of laws mandating overtime pay or a minimum wage; child labor laws may also be violated. According to Fair Labor Association, at least 18 countries are operating Sweatshops, including Bangladesh, Romania, Costa Rica, El Salvador, China, the Dominican Republic, India, Vietnam, Honduras, Indonesia, Armenia, Brazil, Haiti, Taiwan, the Ivory Coast, Nicaragua, Mexico...

That Brazilian Guy

Oh. I thought you meant the spam goal was to recuit people for sweatshops, but that was confusing...

> The Distribution of Users’ Computer Skills: Worse Than You Think

> Summary: Across 33 rich countries, only 5% of the population has high computer-related abilities, and only a third of people can complete medium-complexity tasks.

> Some navigation across pages and applications is required to solve the problem. The use of tools (e.g. a sort function) is required to make progress towards the solution. Another example of level-3 task is “You want to know what percentage of the emails sent by John Smith last month were about sustainability.”

DavidPostill

Note the current wave of crap on ELU is apparently being posted by users with Indonesian names ...

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