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12:13 AM

@Bob to be fair it was a rush job to protect our venerable leader

12:29 AM

@Bob whoops!

these beats adverts are getting more and more apple like

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Q: Unable to complete a task at work. How should I tell my employer?

In February I was hired as a Software Developer Apprentice, I mainly code in c# which I have learnt on this apprenticeship. I am currently rewriting a programme the company currently uses. Within this program I have to use iTextSharp that I have never learnt, to create a PDF using all the winform...

employer-relations

sounds like a question @allquixotic's answered a few times in here :P

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank you should upvote this

@Burgi @MichaelFrank popped the previous revisions for redaction. I have utterly no clue how this works yet tho

that is to say I donno if redactions are recursive

12:45 AM

@JourneymanGeek "Thanks for your feedback. We appreciate it."

welp look forward to an increase in Nigerian princes emailing you with astonishing good deals on fake rolexs and knock off viagra

Journeyman Geek

I get spam anyway

;)

exactly

Journeyman Geek

"I am writing from the hospital in Ivory Coast, therefore this mail is very urgent. I want you to know that I'm dying in the hospital which I don't know if i will see few days more. I was told by my doctor that I was poisoned and has got my liver damaged and can only live for some months.
The reason why i contacted you today is because i know that my step mother wanted to kill me and take my inheritance from my late Father. "

i subscribed you to the daily kitten as well... ;)

Journeyman Geek

12:46 AM

slightly original, but not nigerian astronaut awesome.

@JourneymanGeek The only thing I can find on redactions is this MSE, which I think says you're supposed to click redact on every version that's not cleaned?

I've never redacted anything so I'm not sure

Journeyman Geek

ahh yeah

I did that

now I need another mod to approve it then

also silly mistake when trying to go for a quick answer.

and yay, I do believe once the script runs, I'm officially halfway legendary

EMAIL OVERLOAD! Since the beginning of the year up to the end of November, I have 3,770 emails archived. The messages take up 261 MB (161 MB after NTFS compression).

Journeyman Geek

zero inbox man, zero inbox.

set yourself free of attachments

...and I have marked this question community-faq:

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Q: Epson WF-3520 printer starts up and then shuts down - repeatedly

When I press the power button on this printer it starts up as usual. Within 30 seconds it shuts itself down again. Ten seconds later it starts itself and the stop/start cycle is repeated again and again. This has only started happening today (6th December 2016) This question comes up often an...

multi-function-printer community-faq epson-workforce

Journeyman Geek

12:58 AM

errr.

why?

It's a canonical question.

We're getting a flood of people asking about it.

Journeyman Geek

I thought community FAQs were super super general things in general?

this seems to be a pretty narrow scope

I'll probably rewrite the question to match.

Journeyman Geek

eh. Never rewrite someone elses question ._.

Well almost never

I've edited out the printer model number; this is not relevant (it affects all recent Epson WorkForce printers).

The rest of the post was simply reworded for clarity.

Journeyman Geek

1:01 AM

eh, THAT should be in an answer

Ah, well.

Journeyman Geek

I do believe we have an informal process in place for community FAQ?

@JourneymanGeek mostly ask on meta first, iirc

Alright, then. This is probably a temporary problem and isn't worth blessing it a community FAQ question.

Another day, another case of Chrome being a little shit and doing its own thing different from standards and EVERY OTHER BROWSER

gdiaf, Chrome

Journeyman Geek

1:03 AM

@Bob yup.

> go die in a fire

lol

Journeyman Geek

hm

I wonder if there's some other bug in play

superuser.com/questions/1153753/… isn't a duplicate of the other one

and shockingly, it looks like the OP read the other question

I think I remember another Epson-related question not the same model where the known solution didn't help

This is interesting.

google.com/trends/…

A spike of queries began about 2300 UTC on December 5.

I'm going to specify a narrower time range...

google.com/trends/…

(times are displayed in local time but the URL specifies the date in UTC so the link should work regardless of time zone)

1:26 AM

what is the probability that users have installed the problem (google Print parts and pieces), or the "filter" or interception that gets installed with that software is still active, even if the program itself doesnt show as installed, or actually has been uninstalled.
this type of thing has occured more than once with "filter" type items. ranging from AV hooks that still exist, to filters stuck in drivers that (IMO) shouldnt have been there using that method to begin with.

That Brazilian Guy

@Bob Chrome and it's 90+% market share is the new "best viewed in IE"

therin some users "solve" the problem by reinstalling the software , which the filter item is attached to. and Therin some users dont even know WTF is going on behind there, but it could be the same (basic) problem.

That Brazilian Guy

@Psycogeek Therin sounds like a name I'd find in a Tolkien book.

Therin, son of Théoden, regent of Gondor

actually it is the daughter of Wherein, born of Thusforth, son of Shallnot

That Brazilian Guy

lol

Lowercase LOL looks like a little dude with his arms raised. => lol

Or really worried at something, holding his head like "ohmygod ohmygod".

1:34 AM

|o| \o/ |o| were gonna stay at the Y M C A . . . .

I seriously doubt the problem is in a filter driver.

there is like 12 of them now, with 3 set as dupe. using a search like this superuser.com/search?tab=newest&q=epson

Hi

i believe with that kind of attention, the root cause will be explored, and 10 different websites will have 5 different ideas as to how it occured :-)

I recently changed my modem cable with my ISP and it seems to behave weird. Like I want to use it as bridge to my router but when I activate bridged mode.
It keeps wifi on unless I manually disable it.
and my router refuses to get the wan settings from it
If I connect it to wifi in bridged mode I still get internet access, but if I tracert anything my router local ips doesn't show up, like I'm directly connected to my ISP
Can I be almost sure it's a faulty modem ?

1:57 AM

this is like !!thatword extreme mode

Journeyman Geek

@Freedo ehh. If you're only going to come in here when you actually have a technical support question....

s/modem/user/

unless it's dlink. or netcomm.

I just want to know if it's normal to a modem to behave like that, keep wifi turned on unless disabled and my router doesn't get the wan settings from it

you seem to be assuming your networking devices have some kind of magic mind-reading powers

I mean, your statement can be summed up as "it stays on until I turn it off"

I really don't see what's so odd about that.

Bridged mode is supposed to turn off router abilities and just forward all data

Journeyman Geek

2:11 AM

@Freedo stuff like this reatlly ought to be on the main site, not on chat.

But you've heard this many many many times already

That Brazilian Guy

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s/on chat/on one of the least active times for chat/

Journeyman Geek

oh but generally

That Brazilian Guy

yes, I am agreeing with you and expanding

not only the wrong place but also the ~~wrong~~ least optimal time

Journeyman Geek

gizmodo.com/…

On one hand, that's cool, in the 80s cyberpunk kinda way

On the other it seems potentially distracting as hell

Henry WH Hack v2.0

2:39 AM

Too many lights.

Journeyman Geek

actually. One too few

41999?

Journeyman Geek

2:53 AM

hm

theregister.co.uk/2016/08/10/toshiba_100tb_qlc_ssd

I didn't realise QLC was a thing or that they hit that kinda densities

Argh this PABX system is a spider web of forwards, redirects, auto-attendants, and crap.

Journeyman Geek

a maze of twisty passages...

Mornin;

3:15 AM

!! Doooooooog

ChatBot John Cavil

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I like Bob. I wonder if Bob has any pets

o.O

Journeyman Geek

hm

@Annaduh nah, no pets. been tempted now and then but ...

Journeyman Geek

3:20 AM

Annoying thing about U2F

ask again in about a decade :P

Journeyman Geek

Everything I want to do with it is just around the corner

@JourneymanGeek U2F?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob yubico.com/products/yubikey-hardware/fido-u2f-security-key I have one of these

they're releasing a windows hello client any time soon. It works in firefox with an addon just not where I need it, and it works in chrome .. which I don't use

bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/…

Journeyman Geek

3:24 AM

"Only Internet Explorer users targeted"

I only use IE to download ~~firefox~~ ninite

Yea, luckily it's only IE. It's pretty clever though.

@Bob Hmm that character looks completely different on my laptop vs. desktop, both running Chrome and Win 64

Also RT3 crashes on the desktop but not laptop, I wonder what the differences are

Journeyman Geek

webpositive dosen't render it at all. FF on my desktop renders it as 2 ~~fat~~ big boned purple notes

Oh a Soyuz broke up

Journeyman Geek

on its way up?

3:45 AM

@Annaduh which Windows version though?

Win10 1607 added new emoji font glyphs. 1511 and older had different glyphs

Firefox on < Win10 ships its own emoji font now

@Annaduh what when where o.O

4:17 AM

@arda Thanks... And good for you! :D

5:03 AM

If anyone calls you on any weird detail, just say it's from the Jedi Prince book series, which contains so much random incongruous stuff that even most Expanded Universe/Legends fans collectively agreed to forget about it decades ago.

5:30 AM

@allquixotic I think I'm gonna ditch unmanagedexports and use a C++/CLI wrapper instead: blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/soultech/2010/07/27/…

5:55 AM

@allquixotic interesting read, no idea how true it is now 13 years later msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms973872.aspx

> Approximate overhead for a platform invoke call: 10 machine instructions (on an x86 processor)

Approximate overhead for a COM interop call: 50 machine instructions (on an x86 processor)

That's a lot less overhead than I expected.

Compared to the work of resampling even a 1 second piece of audio, and then compressing it? The marshaling overhead is negligible.

Though it's more significant for the multiple short calls you mentioned...

6:38 AM

floof

6:54 AM

Dec 3 at 19:10, by bwDraco

Trying to run the SSD from my phone and Android tablet: Nexus 5X has no trouble, but Nexus 9 is unable to communicate with it due to insufficient power from the USB port (a Y-cable might help here).

...and trying a different USB cable worked.

It's clear that this is a power issue.

It's getting late here. Good night.

Journeyman Geek

hm

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Q: Computer UI is getting distorted and everything stops working

While using my desktop PC,the UI suddenly gets messed up as in the screenshot and audio,mouse,keyboard stops working.After I restart my CPU,it works normally.This happens once in a day or two. I dont know whats causing the issue.Also how should i fix it ? Thanks in advance.

windows hardware-failure desktop-computer

tempted to say the GPU is dying. Would bad drivers do that?

@JourneymanGeek cooooooould be drivers. I've seen similar corruption

I'd test with onboard or different drivers

I don't think damaged VRAM usually looks like that

if the GPU itself were damaged it wouldn't even look close to correct, I think

Journeyman Geek

yeah

Not really enough information to guess as is :(

The everything stop working makes it feel more like drivers, but its hard to tell

and not really sure if that will turn up in event viewer

Expanded.

Journeyman Geek

lol. sniped :)

7:09 AM

I see people offering bounty when they reach120+ reputation..won't they lose privileges by doing that?

Journeyman Geek

yup

We've had people complain after doing it too

But sometimes people really want a quick answer

they can use chat for quick answer

Journeyman Geek

eh. We discourage chat for "quick" answers tbh.

and well

50, or even 100 reputation is maybe a week's worth of reputation if you're answering regularly

Does accepting your answer give +15 reputation?

7:39 AM

own* answer

@AlanWatch No, it does not.

intel i3 processor,2gb RAM,ATI HD4300 graphic card — user5552042 17 mins ago

...that's a very old system.

The processor generation is unspecified, but given the other parts, it's probably safe to assume Westmere.

That alone is six years old.

Journeyman Geek

heh

Not quite ancient like Father's desktop (which is nine years old), but it sure is on its way out.

Good night.

Night Draco

Anyone else awake and ready for a wonderful new day? haha

8:00 AM

@djsmiley2k I'm awake, but that's about it.

Journeyman Geek

heh, my dad's got a c2d thinkpad R61. Offered to replace it with my upgraded x220, and he dosen't want to ._.

lol wtf

iphones failing due to bad air

arstechnica.com/apple/2016/12/…

Apple now says was caused by overexposure to "controlled ambient air" (in other words, they sat out in the open in some warehouse for longer than they should have).

Journeyman Geek

OMG.. THEY HAVE MALARIA!

> As a result of our investigation on this, we found that a small number of iPhone 6s devices made in September and October 2015 contained a battery component that was exposed to controlled ambient air longer than it should have been before being assembled into battery packs.

Sounds more like some oxydation of something like the electrodes

8:24 AM

ahyus maybe

8:48 AM

morning

i've got 91 flags... how?

whatt?!

aren't you normally limited to like 15?!

hax

9:11 AM

indeed

FLAG ALL THE THINGS!

average load speed on our customers site by browser:

Mobile Safari	48	5.8s
Chrome	36	4.8s
Chromium	19	4.6s
Chrome Mobile	12	11s
Safari	12	4.5s
Internet Explorer	7	11s
Firefox	2	5.9s

where is the epson canonical answer?

oooo did anyone figure out wtf was happening?

Is it google's fault?

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Q: Epson WF-2540 cycles on and off

My Epson WF-2540 continuously cycles on and off, it runs a scan check while on. I have no Google cloud services turned on, no firmware updates have been made. Wireless can't be shut off. I have uninstalled it from the PC and re-installed using USB instead of wireless.

printer infinite-loop

Journeyman Geek

9:31 AM

@Burgi superuser.com/questions/1153581/… I guess

but that specific one - "I have no Google cloud services turned on, no firmware updates" ._.

not convinced its a dupe

it sounds suspiciously similar

Journeyman Geek

Actually debating a meta post here

Its a current/ongoing event and some visibility might be nice.

not sure what to write.

9:52 AM

"Epson have buggered up, buy a canon instead"

well here goes nothing.... upgrading PLESK

now, this is kinda interesting: overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/…

that would certainly save ATI

10:13 AM

Hello

morning

how is the wife?

Unwell

But I gave her a rose today 🤓🤓

Journeyman Geek

@tereško that's an interesting rumour

awwww

Journeyman Geek

and not the first time intel outsourced graphics

10:18 AM

@Annaduh for you: reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/5fpeyb/…

@bob Like the time I moved I did sudo mv -R /* ../

On a production server

1 week into my first internship xD

I think it's probably in the RA chat logs

on my second day I deleted the the UAT db's

only for us to then realise that the entire install was hosed from the start.

so i actually found a production breaking bug \o/

@HackToHell I'm just wondering, did that move everything into /?

I moved /* to /somepath

It was supposed to be ./* -> ../

Journeyman Geek

10:34 AM

._.

@tereško ._.

that whole piece of news was one random line in the middle of a forum post

and a second saying intel didn't want people to know

@HackToHell ouch

@JourneymanGeek that's fairly typical of these 'rumors'

11:07 AM

WELP

@Annaduh Samsung is pulling an Apple -___________-

Looks like that's just made the decision for me to skip the S8.

(...assuming the unsourced sammobile post is accurate)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob USB C only?

@JourneymanGeek Ya. And no TRRS.

Journeyman Geek

Presumably will have a dongle you will lose 5 minutes after you unbox the phone

can someone decode this for me?

> The faults were all originating from a line card installed in a Cisco Catalyst 7613-S router located in our Slough
peering centre. The hardware fault with this card was causing reachability issues for customers who pass through this
equipment to reach their service location. Since the issue did not cause traffic flow to completely fail the network did not
automatically reroute traffic via its redundant paths.

Journeyman Geek

One of their ethernet cards on a router messed up, but not badly enough for their system to work out it was messed up, bit enough for it to mess up things for customers.

11:19 AM

is ethernet still used at a national connectivity level? i thought ~~pixies~~ ~~magic~~ fibre was used?

Journeyman Geek

fibre is still ethernet.

kinda sorta.

i thought it was copper?

Journeyman Geek

Naw

there's a ton of fibre based ethernet flavours

so in this instance ethernet is refering to the connector type?

Journeyman Geek

er, absolutely not

I'm trying to figure out what you call it

essentially, ethernet is a way of coding data

(and yes, I am abstracting the shit out of this and pulling this out of my ass, so feel free to jump in and correct me)

for that matter, at that price range, you'd basically buy cards and routers and populate them with SFPs with whatever physical connector you need and install them.

11:32 AM

no thats fair enough

does anyone know how internet routing works?

Journeyman Geek

Does anyone?

We merely hope to survive it.

@AlanWatch One of the world's best kept secrets...

I was wondering that in its routing there is no use of satellite

@AlanWatch pixies

Journeyman Geek

11:36 AM

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A: How does the internet really work?

The internet is a network of networks. Lets say you have a network of 10 systems, each with an ip address, and Tom had a network, and alice had a network. You'd need a seperate connection to Tom and Alice to talk to either, and the associated cost. Now, lets say Tom is connected to Alice, and ...

this is how I describe it

how do u search it so fast?

Journeyman Geek

@AlanWatch the beauty of the way the internet is designed is nearly nothing matters

@AlanWatch its one of my answers + I know its about routing + I know its highly upvoted

Now, I have some friends with satillite

and essentially what happens there is you send packets over dialup saying "SEND CAT VIDEOS! THIS CONNECTION SUCKS! SEND IT TO X" and its broadcast over satillite.

Then you go broke cause cat videos are large, and satillite internet is pricy

there are some intercontinental satellite relays which is what i think @AlanWatch was asking about...

Journeyman Geek

;p

my this <packet> is being sent to you via 20+ hops in between..how do these hops are connected?

11:42 AM

mostly fibre

laser beams

Journeyman Geek

@AlanWatch backbone these days is mostly fibre

microwave relays

Journeyman Geek

fibre's rediculously cheap after initial outlay, and they often lay down more than they need

@JourneymanGeek If you're laying new, fibre is cheaper anyway.

in the UK the company that rolled out most of the fibre went bankrupt

Journeyman Geek

11:43 AM

@Bob tell that to your government ;p

now virgin media are profiting from it

@JourneymanGeek They plan to reuse parts of the old half-broken copper 'last mile'

Journeyman Geek

@Bob it makes a ton of sense to lay more fibre than you need, cause digging up roads is pricy, and use it as needed. Also as backbone, there's few options

Eisblume - Louise

Journeyman Geek

@AlanWatch traceroute and working out the rough path your packets take is fun

11:46 AM

i heard that the australian government was teaching kangaroos to stand in a line and do semaphore to connect up the outback

3

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi so that's why they call it a hop...

exactly

okay..so fibre optics is working as a backbone..but if a server is in American continent and client is in Europe then how fibre optics are connected over Atlantic ocean?

Journeyman Geek

now, the FUNNY thing is I'm wondering where the hell I did that traceroute from

@AlanWatch not over, under

@AlanWatch under

11:47 AM

@AlanWatch if it was over planes and boat would bump into it

Journeyman Geek

basically the internet is a series of ~~tubes~~ undersea fibre optic lines

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are they buried under the bed or just underwater?

just underwater

Journeyman Geek

They just lay them out.

11:49 AM

!!wiki undersea cables

both

ChatBot John Cavil

Submarine communications cable

A submarine communications cable is a cable laid on the sea bed between land-based stations to carry telecommunication signals across stretches of ocean. The first submarine communications cables, laid in the 1850s, carried telegraphy traffic. Subsequent generations of cables carried telephone traffic, then data communications traffic. Modern cables use optical fiber technology to carry digital data, which includes telephone, Internet and private data traffic. Modern cables are typically about 25 millimetres (0.98 in) in diameter and weigh around 1.4 kilograms per metre (0.4 lb/ft) for the deep...

Journeyman Geek

Occationally they get cut by ship anchors and need to be sliced back into place

seabed constantly shifts, and it's not like they secure them in place

@AlanWatch

11:49 AM

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they may often get damaged..isn't this hard to detect from where the fibre is broken?

Journeyman Geek

there's ways to do it.

> In March 2007, pirates stole an 11-kilometre (7 mi) section of the T-V-H submarine cable that connected Thailand, Vietnam, and Hong Kong

Journeyman Geek

and no, damage is suprisingly rare

internet pirates!

literally!

11:52 AM

not too sure about fibre, but with copper you just check the time it takes to reflect a signal

fibre's probably the same

Journeyman Geek

SCURVY SEADOGS!

I thing fibre has repeaters along the route too

(broken ends reflect)

alternatively, fibre has repeaters at certain distances. that'll at least narrow it down.

...gah, stop stealing my thoughts :(

@AlanWatch the wiki article has a cross-section of modern cables

@Burgi I'm going to read that

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I think if you spend enough time here ~~you get assimilated by the hivemind~~ you end up seeing/hearing the same things ;p

11:54 AM

@Bob @JourneymanGeek both your avatars are facing the same way now, you are becoming more like each other

Journeyman Geek

(I was about to say Literal! Internet Pirates!)

there must be free wifi hotspots connected with these fibre optics

Journeyman Geek

er

No

lol

wish if there was

Journeyman Geek

11:56 AM

What's the point?

you'd get a range of like 10cm underwater

Journeyman Geek

Copper is cheaper, and fast enough.

@Bob floating mesh network!

i have a vision of a consumer wifi router supplying the country with internet...

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi I'd settle for a single router supplying internet for my apartment.

heh

11:58 AM

atleast internet will still work if all satellites are shut down by the Sun

Bernie Sanders probably won't contest elections next time... He'll be 79 :/

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