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Journeyman Geek

1:00 PM

Yup

Tbh, that sounds like shitty coursework

That Brazilian Guy

> The numbers for the 4 skill levels don’t sum to 100% because a large proportion of the respondents never attempted the tasks, being unable to use computers. In total, across the OECD countries, 26% of adults were unable to use a computer.

in Charcoal HQ, 37 mins ago, by ArtOfCode

@Wrzlprmft got an algorithm or regex for detecting Indonesian names?

Journeyman Geek

We had a bunch of students who we might have made fail....

Lol. That will be futile. Indonesians have very very varied names

'Another example of level-3 task is “You want to know what percentage of the emails sent by John Smith last month were about sustainability.”'

errr wut

when would you ever do that in an IT role?

That's analytics at best.

That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k The article doesn't mention IT roles. I think it's ~~normal people~~ general users

1:04 PM

When would a general user do that?

nly 5% of the population has high computer-related abilities, and only a third of people can complete medium-complexity tasks.

It's testing computer-related abilities

tbh if someone set me that as a test, I'd be like... wtf is this and likely not do it

That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k Yet, they define "high computer-related abilities" as "knowing what percentage of the emails sent by John Smith last month were about..."

yeah

so I'm not supprised it's 5%

That Brazilian Guy

> Level 1 -> An example of task at this level is “Delete this email message” in an email app.
Another example of level-1 task is “Find all emails from John Smith.”

those 5% are the people who can't refuse to do a task, no matter how stupid.

If you've got gmail, you don't really need to ever delete email, unless you're a huge email user.... in which case you'd know how.

That Brazilian Guy

> Level 2 -> An example of level-2 task is “You want to find a sustainability-related document that was sent to you by John Smith in October last year.”

1:07 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy thats pretty difficult...

finding a specific document can be a pita.

That Brazilian Guy

> Level 3-a) schedule a meeting room in a scheduling application, using information contained in several email messages.

easy

receptionist level

(not a disparagement on receptionsts)

That Brazilian Guy

> Level 3-b) “You want to know what percentage of the emails sent by John Smith last month were about sustainability.”

@djsmiley2k Yes, hard and annoying menial task/ "handwork". Manually looking for hundreds of emails, but it is much easier with filtering, builtin in every email software

None of these tasks involves creating anything, solving problems, extraapolating anything...

even with filtering, sometimes it's stupid.

'Workbook1.xls' doesn't help

outlook won't filter on attachment content by default

That Brazilian Guy

Yeah, ~~sometimes~~ nearly always the sender won't be much helpful.

1:12 PM

I'm always helpful

<3

That Brazilian Guy

Even then, a "sent by" filter and a "has attachment" filter will do 80% of the work.

Then it's something similar to select all matches, save all atachments in a single click, perform content search in another tool.

The point is, if only 5% of users can do something like this... What does it makes us? 0.005%?

And yet I feel so stupid and imcompetent nearly all the time, most times I have no idea what I'm doing and just get by

But still, if I'm better than the majority then where are my huge paychecks!

Wish I knew

in one of my old jobs, I saved the company 5 million, over night

what did they do?

they let me go with 7 days notice

That Brazilian Guy

Let me guess... You automated some process, then you weren't needed anymore

haha no

a manager hated me because I pointed out he wasn't doing his job properly

I automate other people out of jobs

if I don't like them ¬_¬

That Brazilian Guy

> I pointed out he wasn't doing his job properly

> they let me go with 7 days notice

...

1:22 PM

there was a gap of around 1 year between those things

As I said, he wasn't doing his job properly

shouldn't of taken that long XD

1:40 PM

bbc.co.uk/news/business-38220078

@Burgi that pic though... looks like they sat 3 people down at an empty cube farm and had the guy throw papers

heh

bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-38247435

@allquixotic lol

empty cube farm

> Mr Ballas said he had spoken with the owner of Daniel's Demolitions, who he described as being "shattered" by the news.

1:58 PM

@Burgi Well what do you expect if you have the wrong number on your house? "Mr Ballas' property has a letterbox at the front which reads "200", when in fact he lives at number 198. "

"He told local media that prior to the demolition, he believed that the property he had owned for a number of years was in fact 200 Marion Street." Duh

@allquixotic -- did you get anywhere with the cpp one?

@DavidPostill the real 200 must have been invisible or something

"The number at the front of his neighbour's house - the real 200, that was to be demolished - was obscured,"

it is...

@Burgi Well no, the article says the number on the "real" 200 was obscured

Empty house next door with no visible number, big 200 in front of your house...

Sounds like he was a buy-to-let landlord who never actually lived in the property either

2:02 PM

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the demolished house is on the right

how have recruiters got hold of my details?

Journeyman Geek

heh

apparently they think i am in a position to hire staff

"Hey @Burgi we have this generic person!"

i block them all

Journeyman Geek

hmm. Why didn't I know about this before ._.

even though it is an illegal unsolicited email

Journeyman Geek

Velour earphone cushions are +++++ comfy

2:08 PM

btw how much are .com.auto renew?

Journeyman Geek

It needs a space somewhere ;p

unless there's a .com.auto

lol

oops

.auto seems to be a real TLD

.com.au

we've got loads of them and no-one knows why

i need to calculate the cost

2:13 PM

you can look up the ABN/ASIC linked to each one

I think it's like$15aud

oh min 2 years too

so 30

Journeyman Geek

"no-one knows why"

This seems a recurring theme

@Burgi The demolished house is in the centre, the one on the right was the one theyy were supposed to demolish

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Interestingly enough Google Maps has the house numbers all exactly correct

Which they don't even have at all around here :-o

@Annaduh i thought it might be the one obscured with trees

@Burgi No, that one's 196

ah

2:18 PM

You can see the "200" on the letterbox on the one in the centre

And the one left of the one obscured by trees has "194" on the wall

i didn't zoom in

@Bob £9.50 on godaddy

closer enough

I zoomed in so far I forgot what country I was in

Actually it's 194A, and you can just about see a very blurry 196 on the one obscured by trees

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wtf...

> .car £1,699.00 £1,699.00

Journeyman Geek

2:36 PM

o0

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@djsmiley2k

3:03 PM

<thumbs up>

The comments on that house arctile are weird

fwoof

I got cucumbered

painful

do u know how destination server IP is geographically located to send your data to the destination IP? That IP can be anywhere in this world..if I ask you locate a man with given unique ID ,you won't be able to

wtf are you talking about?

how ISPs routers know which wire leads to that IP?

3:09 PM

they have a big list that they match the ip up against

!!wiki routing tables

ChatBot John Cavil

In computer networking a routing table, or routing information base (RIB), is a data table stored in a router or a networked computer that lists the routes to particular network destinations, and in some cases, metrics (distances) associated with those routes. The routing table contains information about the topology of the network immediately around it. The construction of routing tables is the primary goal of routing protocols. Static routes are entries made in a routing table by non-automatic means and which are fixed rather than being the result of some network topology "discovery" procedure...

that's the thing I was trying to find out

its similar to DNS, works in roughly the same way

erm

not really but yeah sure XD

3:25 PM

I said "roughly"

yeah you did :P

well DNS is easier to explain and the abstract version of how stuff works is what most people want

do you think NAT will be removed when IPv6 becomes a standard?

probably not

IPv4 is easier for humans

NAT was basically designed to preserve IPv4 from getting exhausted..it's security is just an exception

one day we have to say goodbye to IPv4

3:40 PM

i disagree

IPv4 works brilliant internally for most businesses

and homes

why? IPv4 is not easier for humans..humans don't even remember IP Address

there was a question in which a user mentioned that some big organizations are running out of IPv4

lol?

I don't remember which SE site was that

most organisations don't have more than 200-ish devices

you sure? how much computers are used in MIT?

it is just that they use LAN so it appears to be as single public IP user

3:47 PM

@AlanWatch 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 -- googles public DNS

208.67.220.220, 208.67.222.222 -- opendns's dns servers

84.118.67.2 -- my old employers public IP

want more?

I memorise items I encounter lots. Doesn't matter if it's IP's, peoples names, the colour of moonlight.

NAT saves the internet..IPv4 were exhausted in 2010

@JourneymanGeek I finished two years worth of tweep!

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glitch in the matrix?

NAT breaks the Internet.
IP v6 since the last two decades.

@AlanWatch I could not agree more with this part though.

Also. GRAH! Bloody bank. Why do you not accept passwords with a length >20 chars?

Manbe banks concern about storage

3:58 PM

If they're hashing (which they definitely should be), all "passwords" will be the same length

@AlanWatch storage vs security.

Same size hash though.

@BenN hashing of password is hardly used nowdays

Border Gateway Protocol

Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) is a standardized exterior gateway protocol designed to exchange routing and reachability information among autonomous systems (AS) on the Internet. The protocol is often classified as a path vector protocol but is sometimes also classed as a distance-vector routing protocol. The Border Gateway Protocol makes routing decisions based on paths, network policies, or rule-sets configured by a network administrator and is involved in making core routing decisions. BGP may be used for routing within an autonomous system. In this application it is referred to as Interior...

@AlanWatch Hashing is a very very critical part of responsible password management

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Unfortunately, some places still don't do it, but everyone should

4:03 PM

cough tesco cough

cidr-report.org/as2.0

the old developer here never hashed passwords in the old apps he built

Admittedly, there is currently no hashing in a thing I'm building, but I'm definitely going to get that implemented before release

luckily only one of his apps is still (sort of) active

i turn it off until the customer complains, the i turn it on again for a few hours then turn it off again

can you port doom to Powershell?

PowerShell is Turing-complete, so yes, but it would be ultra slow

4:15 PM

i think i just found a task for you @BenN

4:28 PM

@Burgi rofl

So room 11 has its own chatbot, but it does not have a cat command like room 118's chatbot. So I'm going to try extending their chatbot where when !!cat is used, it'll pull a random image from imgur.com/r/cats/top

4:46 PM

@AlanWatch IPv6 addresses are even harder to remember ...

@Bob I consider the media coding effectively a "solved problem" at this point; my current sticking point is somehow (any way possible) compiling grpc (a shared library) for Windows.

If you manage somehow to generate libgrpc.dll / libgrpc++.dll you'll be a hero

This would be required for any successful C++ based solution on Windows regardless of the transcoding stuff, and I keep hitting roadblock after roadblock after roadblock

github.com/grpc/grpc/issues/9002

@allquixotic Aren't you meant to run ./configure before make?

@DavidPostill in this particular project, paradoxically, no

Google doesn't know how to create build systems, so they hack them together arbitrarily

there was one Google project I tried to use where their fake configure script didn't recognize half the options that the real Google Autotools configure recognizes

it's like... come on guys, just use autotools

# GRPC global makefile
# This currently builds C and C++ code.
# This file has been automatically generated from a template file.
# Please look at the templates directory instead.
# This file can be regenerated from the template by running
# tools/buildgen/generate_projects.sh

that doesn't sound hackish at all

5:08 PM

...and DOOM has decided to update itself (new multiplayer functionality). I fear I might start to run low on disk space.

@djsmiley2k they haven't noticed that it is offline for 2 months

they won't pay to get the code updated to hash passwords

hmm

and i refuse to allow shitty code to run long term on our boxes

I'm going to have to start moving some things around to the old mechanical hard drive.

Less performance-sensitive games will go there.

(DOOM does lots of disk I/O and is not a suitable candidate for moving to the hard drive as this will greatly extend load times)

5:28 PM

@Burgi lucky you being allowed to decide things :O

nobody knows

don't ask, don't tell... ;)

like i say its a tiny website they rarely use

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Windoes defender is looking for updates..... for 25 minutes and counting

Jan 28 '15 at 19:23, by allquixotic

new game -> 20 - 75 GB gone

Jan 28 '15 at 19:24, by Mokubai

@allquixotic Tell me about it. FFXIII is 60GB.

Nov 28 at 1:51, by Michael Frank

@bwDraco Elder Scrolls Online is about that big. I think it clocks in at about 75GB.

5:58 PM

@bwDraco amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST8000DM005/dp/…

6:13 PM

is it for desktop or laptop?

I think 8TB is too much for PC

@allquixotic how much it costs?

This is a laptop. I know I can get a bigger SSD, but I have a hard drive in this laptop that is mostly empty and I've moved a couple of games that aren't that sensitive to storage performance there.

@AlanWatch you can click the link

I'd also rather not upgrade a system I'm planning to replace with a desktop soon.

$380 is too much but rpm is more too..aah company leaves no option to repel customers

6:45 PM

o_O

@AlanWatch erm, it's not aimed at the average consumer.

The best price per gigabyte can be had from 4 TB desktop hard drives right now.

6 TB desktop hard drives are still slightly more expensive per gigabyte, but prices have dropped a bit. However, the NAND shortage is impacting demand for hard drives as well so don't expect a price drop over the next year.

SSDs, on the other hand, will be noticeably more expensive over the course of the next year. The transition to 3D NAND has proven far more difficult than expected for the likes of IMFT.

Also, while new tech like 3D XPoint is on the horizon, I strongly suspect that 3D NAND, primarily of the TLC variety, will be the dominant form of mass storage for the next several years.

Hard drives are here to stay during this period, too, as they're far cheaper than NAND. I suspect that in time, they'll be relegated to low-cost nearline or offline storage applications in consumer environments, playing a role similar to that of tape in enterprise environments.

The way I see it, the mainstream market will be on 3D TLC NAND for years to come, while premium consumer systems may have varying amounts of 3D XPoint memory.

7:03 PM

Oh for gods sake, it was a question with a quick and dumb answer, not a bloody Nobel prize winning essay

lol

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1h and 40 minutes for it to give up....

@Hennes it has to allocate enough time to let a 1 RPM HDD try to read the files and send the current hash to Microsoft to determine if updates are needed :P

Rebooting that lapotp atm to see if that helps (Hey, it is a windows OS. I may help)

7:52 PM

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I thought Windows 7 is a thing of the past...

Can't you buy W8 or W10 for close to this price?

I bought W10 for about 1/10th of that price

8:10 PM

@Boris_yo you can still buy it; a lot of people still want it for some stupid reason

Well, the interface is a lot better than w10

And no anoying shop, no apps, just applications.

@Hennes how can you say that when a $5 piece of software (or even free!) makes the bad parts of it equivalent to Windows 7 and the good parts of it are strictly better?

Well, after 3-5 (ish) month of win10 I still finf the UI bad.
Out of the box that is

1. Windows 10 supports newer graphics cards much better with newer revisions of WDDM (more efficient, higher top-end performance)
2. Multi-monitor taskbar management is a lot more flexible and useful on Windows 10 - you can have multiple taskbars, and either copy all your taskbar icons for windows across each monitor or separate them as you prefer
3. Scaling of the OS on high DPI monitors is way, way better -- to change it you don't have to log off your system, and the quality and performance of the scaling is better and more consistent across apps with different UIs

Well, as a end user: No noticeable performance changes between win7 and win10.
Which probablty means I have too fast hardware.
(i5-6600K, SSDs, 16GB,.... for browsing the web)

8:19 PM

4. Windows Updates are faster and less likely to fail
5. Newest versions of Visual C++ runtime are not going to be supported on Win7, so people can now build (desktop) apps that won't even run on Windows 7
6. The kernel is more efficient and drivers are better behaved
7. Compressed RAM is a huge win on memory constrained systems
8. Games supporting DX12 run at generally higher FPS than DX11 mode

@Hennes I don't know why people shut their mind to using an entire operating system with tons of advantages just because the "out of the box" experience is bad... like, I find Windows Explorer's default "Large Icons" view absolutely intolerable, but with 2 clicks I can change it to Details, bam, problem solved

folks who don't like Windows 10's UI deviations from Windows 7 can install Classic Shell or Start10

it's literally trivial - my mom can do it

Scared to to anything to my desktop atm. I first need to install w10 on some other devices to play with it.

MY experience is that I can make any OS (windows or deadrat or ....) unbootable in minutes by doing 'normal tweaking'

well to me it sounds like you're being needlessly risk-averse, but feel free to play with it on lower risk devices... I upgraded (without even fresh reinstalling) my main desktop's Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 on release day and had zero problems, despite having about 1000 programs installed with all kinds of weird customizations, drivers, virtual soundcards, virtual PDF printers, VirtualBox and VMware, etc. etc.

I've never had a software related boot problem with this install and I first installed this OS as Windows 8.1 Pro x64 on the weekend that Win 8.1 was released to manufacturing

I made sure my laptops worked (as a backup).
Then upgraded, wiped and did a clean install of win10

And yes, I probably am overly careful atm

Windows is a bit less fragile than it used to be... you can still make it unbootable by having corrupted sectors on an HDD, but if you follow officially supported procedures, it generally just works

running net stop wuauserv again. Deleting c:\windows\softwaredistribution.... again.

Lets see if windows update will run now.

8:34 PM

@bwDraco I'm very happy to accept :)

Thank you :)

8:48 PM

@TomWijsman I gave sandboxie a try and I think I can manage my project on it. Would be awesome to have it on Osx. Thanks.

9:17 PM

@allquixotic urk

I'll have to look after I get home tonight

no precompiled binaries?

@allquixotic what are you using for the encoding? :P

@allquixotic ...wait that's the default? o.O

I think mine defaulted to details..

and always has

well, except the "this pc" view

@Bob QtGstreamer. it's basically a solved problem and I haven't even written the code yet

@Bob nope!

Soon wold wars will be started by tweeting...

A Message to Breitbart from http://Weather.com https://youtu.be/UhdymoRTz6M I give up I surrender to living in a Terry Gilliam film.

Tweeted by FrydaWolff on December 8, 2016 at 8:39 AM

The Weather Channel explains climate change to breitbart; breitbart responds with the most gamergater argument ever… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/806857384664662020

Tweeted by pharmasean on December 8, 2016 at 1:46 PM

Waiting for the donald trump delcaration of nuclear war on US scientists

9:41 PM

@allquixotic didn't you have trouble getting a Windows binary there too? :P

I might still try libsox if only for fun later

It looks ridiculously easy

@Bob not as much

for a C lib anyway

@allquixotic rest api as a backup?

anyway, I'll try in about 12 hours

can't be that much harder than building qtav

ha

10:08 PM

!! Caaat

ChatBot John Cavil

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Well I got my phone back so I be happy.

Not actually fixed but whatever.

Had enough of getting misled over and over again by that service centre...

10:28 PM

@Annaduh It's still leaking?

Ooer. I be famous howtogeek.com/223020/… :)

@DavidPostill You seem to be mentioned there quite a few times!

@BenN lol. TIL. I never knew that :)

Heh, and it seems I was mentioned too

And @JourneymanGeek is famous

10:52 PM

I'm pretty sure I've been there a couple times, but my name... is not unique.

HtG is pretty well-known for semi-scraping SU :P

11:27 PM

@Boris_yo its an OEM license from a retired machine, its sort of against the EULA to resell it

Finally got my new chip and PIN debit card in the mail \o/

congrats, welcome to 2003 ;)

Yup. We are so far behind the times.

So I just superglued two SSDs together...

Pretty ghetto

um... why?

are you going to pimp them with a wifi antenna like you did last time?

ChatBot John Cavil

11:37 PM

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!!/wiki EMV

ChatBot John Cavil

EMV is a technical standard for smart payment cards and for payment terminals and automated teller machines that can accept them. EMV cards are smart cards (also called chip cards or IC cards) that store their data on integrated circuits in addition to magnetic stripes (for backward compatibility). These include cards that must be physically inserted (or "dipped") into a reader and contactless cards that can be read over a short distance using radio-frequency identification (RFID) technology. Payment cards that comply with the EMV standard are often called Chip and PIN or Chip and Signature cards...

Oh, come on...

Third one I think I'm going to attach with velcro

@Burgi nah, iirc most places in usa still do signature even with the chip -_-

11:39 PM

@Burgi lol whaaaa?

Cause this case has space for two but only mounting holes for one.

No, no. I'm starting to see a large number of EMV terminals around here.

Nov 29 at 21:24, by Anna duh

I appear to have glued myself to a WiFi antenna

@Bob :O

Also the screws on my Samsung 850 Evos seem to fall out spontaneously...

i blue-tac'd the SSD in my mum's PC to the case

> I’ve actually named accounts solely with emoji and I’m kinda shocked how much doesn’t break when you do that. It’s pretty awesome.

blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20160519-00/…

11:44 PM

i was going to ask, has anyone (other than me) ever bought a hybrid drive?

nup

sigh

looked at one, figured 4 GB of NAND was just dumb (esp for the price), bought a 240 GB mSATA drive to use as cache instead

i fell into the marketing hype

the only place it kinda might make sense is in an old laptop that only has the single drive bay

and you must have a lot of storage

and you can't use a portable drive

...so, basically never

11:50 PM

well its working fine, but i certainly haven't seen the massive performance boosts they claimed i would get

right i'm going to watch the grand tour

That Brazilian Guy

Geek friends of RA: now (as in, months ago or maybe last year) tha facebook disabled the RSS feeds for its notifications, is there an alternative way to set up something such as IFTTT alerts for fb notifications? Maybe something self-hosted that does web scraping, I don't care how convoluted, I just want it to work!

@Burgi tbf, with most uses you wouldn't even see them going from HDD to SSD

you'd only see them on benchmarks, which don't work too well with caches

I thought you used commercial software for SSD caching?

@ThatBrazilianGuy My trick is to not use Facebook :P

@bwDraco ...yea? not sure how that's relevant to benchmarks o.O

That Brazilian Guy

@Bob I wish. Every IRL social circle of mine uses whatsapp and facebook to interact online =/

11:55 PM

@bwDraco IMO, Intel SRT is still the best one, but it requires (moderately common) hardware support and has a limit of 64 GB and doesn't play nice with partition tables. PrimoCache is kinda meh but works alright. Using it as a read-only cache since I had some mighty suspicious file corruption the first time around.

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