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11:40 AM
wigle.net i am wondering if they thought about how they would present every wifi on the map , like zoom all the way down in the default location.
Of course it is nice to know that the data is all gathered together , thanks to 20K users , on a site that is run by your basic hackers :-)
assuming they are any good (at hacking), they could create the first non-telecom intercontinental connection.
 
12:23 PM
omg evan caroll is still here
 
downloading MGS V now, yay!
 
Bob
12:41 PM
@JourneymanGeek well, the max is 5
so >5 is impossible
 
12:52 PM
;p
>4?
 
If i told you Google has real time satalites , called Skybox and it connects to the Net (for display) skybox.com/blog/introducing-skybox-for-good and they would use it to provide data to huge business corporations "Skybox Imaging empowers global businesses to make better decisions with timely, high fidelity imagery and infinite analytics" Would it then be wrong to think thier robotics team would someday make terminators :-)
Really though when the biggest intrusive spying agency in the world today, that tracks everything that everyoned does, buys up every autononomous robotics division it can find. and attemts to implement the most far fetched computerised stuff ever dreampt up. Also creates AIs as mindless as they are, can spy on people from frilling space.
Then people are Warned , for years of this kind of thing comming, and could it be any less like a movie that the people themselves will usher it in, with a smile on thier face to thier own doom. or at least the doom of thier jobs, privacy, mental state (when everthing is contrived)
Oh sure it starts out with nice little self driving autos, which google themselves admits that it is virtually impossible to do. autos that with humans in place already murders thousands of people and cripples millions each year. But we all know how it ends, the people against the stupid but highly protected machines (protected by money and power)
Empowering SkyNet today . it will not matter if the skynet version of robotic autos kills "less" people per year, and mangles less people each year (permenent torture). Because google and machines are about STATS . the stats will show that some percentage less people die when the robot is controlling them.
Because 1/2 the people that die and are mangled today , cause it to themselves. It is not all the law abiding citizens driving the speed limits, that creates the massive ammount of auto deaths. Driving "normal" does not get that many people killed, it is the people who drive like Idiots.
When the stats show that the machine only slaughters 25,000 people, who were doing NOTHING wrong, who were following the rules, when the machine mangles 5 million people, that will be just Fine. because the stats say it is safer.
This is how our society and government and insurance companies , and big businesses operate. To them all we are just stats, if the stats show an improvment , they could care less that now regular GOOD drivers take on 50% more risk and damage and death, via the machine. It does not matter to them Who was making up the stats, so it will not matter to them that the robots create most of the death , as long as the numbers, the bean counters, the machine, says it is "better"
 
1:25 PM
@JourneymanGeek people are saying bad things about it's micro transactions
 
@tereško: well, I have no intention to play the MP parts of it
 
it seemed that FOB was a singleplayer element
(I have only started reading about that game today)
 
1:46 PM
It has not mattered to people that google is deeply tied to the government already, with a percentage of thier finantial statements , and a percentage of thier investements in both foreign and domestic governments . "We invest primarily in U.S. government and its agency securities" as stated in thier own (cant hide that) finantial records through the years.
Because they also Control the media we are seeing, each project being portrayed to the public as "best thing that could ever happen to the users" but each reality of the projects end results , and if you look in the "wheres the money". we can see that they are no different than any other company or agency that sells the users out. The google portrayal By Google :-) looks exactally the way they desire. the benign open source , give away.
Behind the scenes exists the actual picture, the giveaway for peoples data to marketeers and governement. "We are the Good Google" is all that will come up in search. in research though is is more like "we are the same as any others".
Skynet (box) will launch 10 robot sattalites? 20 ? no "As per reports, Google is planning to launch 180 micro satellites in orbits" Damn invasion that is :-)
 
2:13 PM
If you can seriously believe that no google skynet real time world photo sattalites will not be providing pictures to secret (sort of) US Drone assasination operations around the globe, then you either no nothing about the massive drone operations, or you have
Ostrich fever
 
@Psycogeek How useful would you find buying ballhead with quick release for monopod?
B&H Photo recommends bundle with Benro monopod and ballhead with quick release.
I also see folks buy Manfrotto monopod and ballhead with quick release.
I never used monopod but only tripod ...
@Psycogeek Headstomp fatality! Jax wins!
 
@Boris_yo i already covered that. but there is a differecne between "ball head" replacing a pan tilt head. loose the ball and the top weighted part goes loose and will fall down, and is hard to control. but a Ballhead on a set of sticks (pod legs) gives you the ability to balance the pods Head , when on uneven surfaces. 2 different things. Pivot ball heads , only usefull for photo, are creative but sloppy 2 handed things.
 
@Psycogeek Covered when?
 
@Boris_yo way back up when you asked about that mini carbon fiber thing.
 
2:23 PM
@Boris_yo you know you can rent most of this stuff, even from general local photo or video shops. for a mere 5-10% of the costs, you can try these marvels out at what your doing, and discover.
 
@Psycogeek Yeah. Remember you did.
@Psycogeek Not where I live probably.
 
@DragonLord Are they using any Block C spectrum? Verizon can't impose any kind of "you must only use this data on the cellphone" type restrictions because of the Block C rules. And that also requires them to allow that "unlimited" means REALLY unlimited. It's not gross abuse if you're entitled to it by law.
If they're not using any Block C spectrum then they are perhaps not covered by the open access provisions and are thus allowed to impose restrictions like that (as draconian and misleading as they may be).
@DragonLord Verizon and AT&T both use Block C, so if you have grandfathered unlimited, they are required to effectively sell you a replacement for wired broadband, until or unless they terminate your contract, which so far they haven't done for any unlimited users. They are locked into a "take it or leave it" agreement with you as a customer: either they keep your business, or they terminate it and get $0. They can't demand that you use less data. CAN'T.
As long as the customer refuses to sign a new contract, they have to let you continue using your existing one, OR pull the rug out from you completely and stop doing business with you. However, it's clearly more profitable to them to let unlimited data users remain on their network, or they'd have already cut us.
Gee... if unlimited data is profitable, one wonders why they don't offer it on new plans. Oh, yeah, that's right: they're perfectly content marking up the cost of bandwidth by a factor of 10 because capitalism.
I mean, look, it says right there in the contract that Verizon can terminate service to you at any time, for any reason. If they decided that the cost of my unlimited data were too much to bear and that I was effectively an unprofitable customer, what possible business justification could there be for keeping me? Thus, I must conclude by logic that they are making money on me, despite using >100GB of data per month.
 
@Psycogeek What worries me is that transport is the largest employer in America (and I'm sure elsewhere)... 3 million or something. If all the taxi, bus, lorry, delivery, forklift drivers around the world are replaced... What do those people do instead? It won't be their fault either. It'll just not be financially viable to employ a driver who needs to sleep, let alone all the other issues with human drivers. That's a lot of extra jobless people.
@Psycogeek And that's not even including other industries which could potentially be automated (and most industries can be... white collar too).
 
My family pays Verizon about $350 per month, plus a full retail phone or two every year, which they get a cut of. I can't imagine that using 100GB per month costs them that much, especially when their backhaul is definitely unmetered, and the towers I connect to are primarily not saturated.
 
@marcusdoesstuff oh noo teamsters :-) I bet they can do away enough auto machines , for the machines to become legally armed
Imagine a road train of 50 autonomous trucks , bent on revenge. and me sitting there in that little tiny gas saving car with my car pool buddies .
 
3:07 PM
this isn't as worrying as artificial general intelligence but it's still a pretty big issue that no one has a solid answer on how to solve.
 
@marcusdoesstuff this guy is already sold :-) Google says the autos are far from taking over just yet. the thing cant even cope with rain yet (working in CA is not a problem) the engeneers had to map everything in only a small areas where they are testing them, to the centimeter, and it still does not know what do do when things change. The auto still cant differentiate from a cop waving them through, or a gangster holding them up. In the everyday is a new road repair california
It has not ability to cope, in fact it basically can do little to handle the "worst situations" that a human deals with, which with todays cars are about the only thing a human does deal with :-)
The speed of much of the testing that was done was under 25MPH, here in california after the novelty of it wears off, they will just run that idiot off the road and go on.
it is anything but safe now, when it gets into an unknown construction zone , it tosses its hands up in the air, another perfect place to bump it off the road , and have every witness waiting behind it to say it was at fault :-)
it is sheer fantacy that it is anywhere close to being driverless, but it is Working, everyone believes in the bot, because A) it is google B) it is neeto as heck C) they think they will be able to afford one (50K added to car cost) D) it is the future E) google sells everything to us, why wouldnt it look better than it is
Right now a loose shopping bag , would turn it into a hazzard.
I would say it couldnt possibly deal with snow or ice, but most humans do not deal with those 2 proper. so a computer could potentially make it through those situations "better" but the machinery would not be able to see anything, and it will just be plow kill (again) because much like california drivers being impatient, people Always overdrive in the snow and ice, giving it zero chance to survive at safe speeds.
 
3:49 PM
Hi @DavidPostill
 
Hi @Prasanna what can I do for you today? ;)
 
David I want to know how you guys manage to participate in Superuser so extensively
 
Ah. I'm currently unemployed :/ So lots of free time.
 
can we chat in another room
i have couple of questions - if you have few mins now
 
@Prasanna Give me 5 minutes
 
3:57 PM
ok
i;ve created a new chat room here - chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/27653/…
 
Hey, did anyone notice the new Google logo today?
It's not just a Google Doodle. This is a permanent logo.
Hint: abc.xyz
 
4:15 PM
super... just took notice
 
Keep in mind that Google is undergoing a very important transition right now.
A new company called Alphabet is being formed, and Google and several of its properties are going to be broken up into subsidiaries of this new company.
If you're wondering why this is being done, see abc.xyz.
In short, this will enable greater transparency and accountability, and give each division more freedom to grow.
 
Jet
Even Google logo gets flat
What have you done, Microsoft Windows 8...
(p.s. Hi all!)
 
The future of Google (...erm, Alphabet) sure looks exciting...
 
4:31 PM
@CanadianLuke are they missing part of the animations? where your bubble bursts :-)
 
Jet
I wonder if they will change their privacy?
It just violates rights of human being.
---
Have just read Windows 10 license agreement (!), parts regarding privacy...
Then deleted Win10 ISO file which I had downloaded for hours,
and even rolled back updates for not seeing that win ten icon in tray anymore..
 
what is so wrong about it
 
New branding for Google.
 
how did u do it?
 
ya.. got iy
*it
 
Jet
@Prasanna They can modify/use/share your information, get your phone contacts, read your SMS, etc.
Shortly, they say "Do you agree to install a spy on your PC?":
1) yes
2) no way out, press yes
 
@Psycogeek What do you mean?
 
@CanadianLuke i mean it sort of "bursts your bubble" macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/…
 
I understand what 'Burst your Bubble' means, but what are you talking about?
 
4:55 PM
Turns out Niantic Labs, developer of Ingress, is becoming independent. It will not be part of Alphabet. plus.google.com/+Ingress/posts/GVvbYZzWyTT
 
the massive database leaks/hacks you posted, which is displayed in "bubbles"
 
sigh This Google logo GIF is crashing the page on Chrome on my Nexus 9.
 
crl
Hi guys, trying to restore a pc of a mom's friend, which says "disk read error, press ctrl+alt+suppr to reboot" when you boot it, it's an old Aspire 5920G under Vista. I've booted an ubuntu from usb, but then I can only mount a disk called DATA (150G and the HDD capacity is 320G), it's not the one where windows is installed, is there any way to still recover those data?
I guess the laptop's RAM is in bad health, I was copying files but it freezed at some points, I rebooted and went further in the backup
Ah I've finally managed to run gparted, it shows an unknown space of 150G with a red exclamation point
warning: unable to detect file system, possible reasons (file system damaged, ...)
 
5:17 PM
@crl That's some seriously bad corruption. Or it's some kind of crypto it doesn't recognize
oh well; make them buy a new HDD and you'll install it, and they can recover from backups :) they DO have backups, right?
if you're really dedicated, you can make a block-level copy of the bad partition via dd in another system (to eliminate the potential for bad RAM being a problem) and try to undelete files with an undelete program
 
crl
oh ok thanks
I can also restore windows (with alt+F10 at boot) but the owner didn't make any backup, so the only option will restore from scratch and lose all data in C
 
not making a backup is their problem, not your fault.
the user is to blame for that
 
crl
he told me he had some backups of his files, but not up-to-date
yes :), I'll ask him if he really want to recover those files or not
 
Jet
6:20 PM
@crl also, do you hear unusual noise coming from HDD? If you hear loud noise (e.g. clicking), it means you have little time for doing backups as HDD is dying. Also failing HDDs can get hot faster* so add a little cooler for controlling heat.

*caused by friction, vibration, voltage issues etc.
Remember, HDD is the most heat-sensitive part of your computer (max allowed temp. is about 55-65*C, usually/sometimes not cooled at all)
 
 
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7:41 PM
@Jet you need to issue 4 downvotes and then get an answer upvote and your rep will equal the current year :D
or a question upvote then 1 answer downvote
or just a question upvote and wait 4 months lol
 
crl
@Jet thanks to tell that, the laptop is indeed quite hot, and noisy (only from fans), I'll open it and clean it, will try to take the HDD out too
 
Do you stop getting edit rep past 2000, since they are automatically applied rather than going through a queue? (if not, 3 edits would be enough for Jet)
 
8:01 PM
@bertieb yes, you stop getting edit rep after 2K.
 
8:25 PM
@allquixotic Aww, muh edit rep! D:
(thanks for the clarification)
 
8:59 PM
New Google logo!
 
@MichaelFrank I hate how the hand is like, "e needs 2 b crookid lul"
 
I quite like the crooked 'e' :P
 
@MichaelFrank Not sure how much I like the idea of "we all use crayons for everything", but I'm (slightly) OCD that way
 
@Asmyldof It looks more like chalk to me. :)
 
Same difference
 
9:39 PM
Paypal just let me change my password.
I got an email saying my password was successfully changed.
I try to login... WRONG PASSWORD!
I click "forgot password"... NOTHING ARRIVES!
...I didn't like my money anyway
Ok, got the email, I'm back in.
Turns out the "new interface" accepts passwords of any lenght, but silently truntaces after 20 chars
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy 0.o
I'm pretty sure that's come up about crappy-company-of-the-day a couple of times on TDWTF
 
Yeah, luckily the reset email redirected me to the old interface that warns about password length
 
But Paypal, jeez
Anyone here ever run / still running a Google Wave instance, out of interest?
(Oh, now it's Apache Wave, of course, I forget)
 
10:04 PM
youtu.be/6PHFjLkwOZE?t=2653 Ed Snow mentiones Stack overflow , as the more intelegent people who understand the systems.
 
adsfjigpkma this computer won't update it's Group Policies and I have no idea why! :(
 
10:27 PM
Need help with name resolution on Linux. I have a VM in my local subnet, also running Debian, but the DNS server is not picking up its name. I can ping it by IP address, but not by name. I have checked the /etc/resolv.conf and the zones file (running BIND9 for a server) on the main DNS server (Debian as well), and the entries I placed are correct
What would be my next step?
The machine has a static IP address
Nevermind... I didn't check the /etc/hosts file -.-
 
Bob
10:58 PM
I just got a "T" on SSLLabs :P
 
@Bob T is bad, right?
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank I think so! :P
(was using a self-signed cert that didn't even match the domain name)
 
Bob
I know it probably stands for some variation of "trust", but I can't help but think of "troll" (Harry Potter)
@allquixotic wow
Also, after that long list:
> This server supports TLS_FALLBACK_SCSV to prevent protocol downgrade attacks.
 
@Bob :D EVERYTHING IS BROKEN!!!! .... and you did one thing right
 
@Bob I just tested agains a server from work and got an "F"! WHEEEEE \o/
("F" is more than "T", right? Right?)
 
@bertieb heh. If I had a excuse reason I might
 
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