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12:00 AM
Everyone, please be advised that this is normal. The chatbot will do this every day as it is set up to restart automatically.
5 hours ago, by allquixotic
@DragonLord I just installed a crontab file to make Cavil restart daily at midnight EST so I don't have to restart him constantly by hand :)
!!/info
 
@DragonLord I awoke on Tue, 01 Sep 2015 00:00:11 GMT (that's about 2 minutes ago), learned 100 commands
 
Yep, chatbot just restarted automatically.
Not midnight EST, though. Midnight UTC.
 
ahh, interesting
 
@bertieb old old complaint. Its a won't fix
I do wonder if there's a userscrupt for it
 
12:47 AM
@Boris_yo ohhh yea, that was not very "mindPowered" more like placebo powered. I have never heard of a camera or codec that changes quality based on the storage keeping up. stuff usually either works or it does not. either the buffered data is written out in a timely enough way that the camera can contrinue writing to it, or it does not.
Although . . . there are codecs like windows own codecs where if they cannot keep up with the data rate they were Told to encode at, they drop frames instead of increase compression. But that has nothing to do withe the rate the storage is working, only how much they were supposed to "lose" in the lossy compression scheme. that one codec happy to drop actual frames, to fit the specified size.
 
ugh... lifehacker updated their website again and now I can't change it from Lifehacker AU to the international site. -_-
 
 
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Bob
2:08 AM
@JourneymanGeek There's one for changing the sound.
Would be pretty trivial to set the volume, actually.
I might try making one later
document.getElementById('jp_audio_0').volume = 0.5
Hm, nope.
Looks like the volume attribute isn't supported yet...
Or maybe it is? I'm confused now.
Oh wait it works.
 
2:35 AM
Just got a BSOD, yet another SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION.
Seems to be the Logitech mouse driver this time:
Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 10.0.10240.9 AMD64
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\Windows\Minidump\083115-6406-01.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available


************* Symbol Path validation summary **************
Response                         Time (ms)     Location
Deferred                                       SRV*E:\sysdebug\debug-symbols*msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Symbol search path is: SRV*E:\sysdebug\debug-symbols*msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
> EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%p referenced memory at 0x%p. The memory could not be %s.
Some driver must have segfaulted.
> Probably caused by : hardware ( nt!ObpCreateHandle+31c )
Hardware issue?
 
@DragonLord we know what is crappy about setpoint software :-) but what is so special about it? Is possible you can do without it and generic for a while to test?
 
Well, it happened as soon as I let go of my mouse. Definitely seems like a driver bug.
(Logitech Anywhere Mouse MX, in this case.)
This is probably another buggy driver.
SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION is commonly associated with graphics driver bugs and this machine has had a history of Intel HD Graphics driver problems.
I've never seen SetPoint cause a crash before.
 
most of the input device can run off generic MS driver junk , which is going to be more tested , then you miss out on some mouse features for a while and see how the machine works , so you know if a specific software is part of the issues.
 
One second after I let go of my mouse, I get the sad face blue screen.
Pretty sure this was a SetPoint fault, not a hardware failure.
 
@DragonLord but you also do not get Mon-Off proper, and because that is based on input too.
 
2:46 AM
It's a userspace app issue.
I'll test it.
Nope, closing SetPoint did not address the monitor-off issue.
Or wait a sec...
Never mind
Okay, probably a driver problem.
What happened was that I recently plugged in my Logitech Unifying receiver to a different port and the system had to install drivers again. The crash happened shortly afterwards.
Not a hardware issue.
SetPoint likely caused the crash.
...but why would IP_MISALIGNED be part of the problem?
A misaligned instruction pointer cannot be caused by a software bug, right?
 
@Bob I probably shouldn't complain. My phone notification is a dog whistle air horn.
 
Any ideas?
> Misaligned IPs don’t always result in a bus error, they can be caused by drivers writing more data in a buffer on a stack which results in a stack overflow, this also results in a bugcheck to prevent critical memory corruption.
Driver was probably loaded into the kernel twice due to the reinstallation of the mouse driver.
During this installation process, something might have gotten overwritten in kernel space and corrupted the kernel-mode mouse driver's memory.
That triggered the bus error, causing the crash with MISALIGNED_IP reported in the bugcheck analysis.
The processor tried to execute an instruction that wasn't aligned properly. Sounds like kernel-mode code getting corrupted when the driver was installed.
Sounds a lot like a hardware issue (my CPU might be going 😟) but could just be a driver fault.
 
3:17 AM
@DragonLord well who is it that has 2 different ram modules stuffed in thier machine? I would say check with memtest86 but you sufficentally have done that. Also i Still wonder why peops with laptops are not more critical about thier rams matching and being on a compatability list. Matching so they get Dual ram channel speeds? I see SU questions many times where people slop in some ram, and i want to say But but but what about . . . .
@DragonLord hardware , Driver for hardware , which is a software issues and which is a hardware issue :-) Drivers for hardware , are "Hardware issues" but not really :-)
 
Hang on while I update WhoCrashed. (I still have a valid license for WhoCrashed Professional.)
Oddly enough, WhoCrashed thinks this is a driver bug.
I took a closer look and saw no memory corruption in the NT kernel image.
 
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Q: Why I cant access my flash drive even though I try to format but still show that it might be protected

PakazoaI have a new flash drive with some of my important files inside. I try to copy some files from another laptop and than suddenly all the data inside my flash drive were all gone. When I insert it back to my laptop—an Acer Aspire running Windows 8—from there its automatically pop up flash drive to...

Ya know sooo many of these are about FAKE sd chips, I would like to refer them all to one thread which tells exactally HOW fake chips end up failing , and how they look to the systems and programs. And how foolish you are for not having tested it :-)
(I of course am not positive this is fake sd, just that it has the same symptoms)
 
3:36 AM
5: kd> lmvm LMouFilt
Browse full module list
start             end                 module name
fffff801`21e30000 fffff801`21e44000   LMouFilt T (no symbols)
    Loaded symbol image file: LMouFilt.Sys
    Image path: LMouFilt.Sys
    Image name: LMouFilt.Sys
    Browse all global symbols  functions  data
    Timestamp:        Tue Mar 18 20:21:03 2014 (5328E2EF)
    CheckSum:         0001AE59
    ImageSize:        00014000
    Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4
Guess I'm updating SetPoint.
 
@DragonLord You didn't try that already?
 
look it says Filt, does that mean filter? i hate filters :-) Why you no try to put clean MS generic driver in and see if it stops some of the insanity first?
 
4:01 AM
Watching the election nomination stream online (at work ;p)
Close call for SingFirst team as it fixes lapse in forms: They did not fill in constituency, Tanjong Pagar, they are contesting. Mistake has been fixed.
I almost didn't get to vote again :/
 
4:12 AM
also, I've been messing with supervisord and python, and lighttpd. I set up the equivilent of mod proxy, and pointed it at a simple python http server and chucked my random files there
 
Bob
4:35 AM
@JourneymanGeek supervisord is alright, but better to use init itself if you can
systemd, upstart, whichever
unless it's sysvinit in which case... yea, supervisord is probably easier :P
 
@Bob: couple of reasons. We use it extensively at work ;p
 
From the research I've done and from the numbers themselves, there seems to be a $40 delta between the promotional FiOS pricing as listed here and non-promotional prices
This article (old) indicates a $210/mo price for 300 Mbps. This has likely remained unchanged; the promotional price is $170, a $40 difference.
$60 (for 150 Mbps) and $260 (for 500 Mbps) are both $40 away from a multiple of 100.
In conclusion: $80 for 50 Mbps service. Not good.
Cable isn't symmetric the way fibre is, but I don't upload videos or other big files very often.
TWC retail rate for Maxx 50/5 Standard is $58.
(TWC Maxx has been rolled out here, but not in every location TWC serves.)
It's Verizon not publishing their full retail rates ($40 delta!), as well as the (mandatory) removal of POTS cabling upon installation of FiOS, that has pretty much eliminated them as an option for us.
(cc @allquixotic)
Verizon has left us with no choice but to select a competitor for reasonably-priced yet still fast Internet service.
 
5:15 AM
@DragonLord what do you mean by symmetric? One of the sales tools used against cable broadband was that other users could be pulling so much data that it slows down other users. To date , there has never once been a time on cable where I did not get the rated speed, assuming the server at the other end could supply it.
In my own little side of the world here, no other users have ever slowed down my cable broadband, although i always expected them to.
superuser.com/questions/965628/… <--- spam of the week :-) 4 views no downvote yet?
IPspeak "were raising our speed" = "were meticulously raising our price in a way you will not notice"
 
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5:31 AM
Gone. You might want to de-onebox that
 
6:05 AM
T-Mobile will start throttling unlimited 4G users who are grossly abusing the system, bypassing the 7GB tethering limit (the unlimited data only applies for usage on the cellular device)
There's an important difference between legitimate use of an unlimited data plan and gross abuse. RT @JohnLegere https://twitter.com/JohnLegere/status/638206554978676736
2 TB of data on a cellular data plan. Is this reasonable?
!!/no
 
Sorry, but cellular data networks have much more limited capacity than wired broadband networks. Mobile data plans are not a substitute for a proper wireline broadband service.
 
Bob
@DragonLord To be clear here: there is nothing wrong with the amount used. It is quoted as a scare tactic, nothing more. The real issue here is circumvention of the ToS by tethering (over ~ limit). Using the words "unlimited" and "2TB" together is presenting an entirely different and unrelated set of facts.
If you are offered unlimited without conditions, using 2TB is not abuse.
 
@DragonLord it would be for me (tethered) If it wouldnt cost me like 5 times as much.
 
2/ On @TMobile, Unlimited LTE is unlimited…as long as it’s used on your smartphone. Period. Watch Netflix on your phone all day. #legit
I do understand.
 
Bob
6:10 AM
If one of the conditions is no tethering, and you violate that, then that's completely different.
 
Tethering is capped to 7 GB.
As I said, mobile data is not a substitute for wireline broadband service.
 
Bob
@DragonLord The issue is I'm seeing this presented everywhere as "2TB used on unlimited". Few people publicly mention tethering limits being involved.
@DragonLord That has nothing to do with it.
As long as you are within the agreed terms, you can do whatever you like.
 
Tethering is limited. The issue is users circumventing the limit and grossly abusing the system.
 
Bob
The real headline should be "2TB used over unenforced 7GB cap".
Anything else is lying, by omission at the very least.
 
1/ We sell an unlimited LTE smartphone plan – no wireless co sells a replacement for wired broadband. #callyourISP
@Bob The cap isn't unenforced. The users in question are deliberately bypassing the throttling after 7 GB of tethered data.
That's theft of services.
 
Bob
6:14 AM
@DragonLord Ok then, "2TB used by bypassing 7GB cap".
"unlimited" should not be brought into it. It's a different issue.
Of course, personal opinion is that a distinction based on use ("tethering") is bad too, but that's also a different issue.
 
11 mins ago, by DragonLord
T-Mobile will start throttling unlimited 4G users who are grossly abusing the system, bypassing the 7GB tethering limit (the unlimited data only applies for usage on the cellular device)
> ...bypassing the 7GB tethering limit (the unlimited data only applies for usage on the cellular device)
There's an important difference between legitimate use of an unlimited data plan and gross abuse. RT @JohnLegere https://twitter.com/JohnLegere/status/638206554978676736
 
i dont watch a lot of t-mobile commertials, but if they spend millions of dollers saying one thing (unlimited) then have restrications of any sort, could be 10,000$ of the advertising would want to go into Bigger Disclaimers :-)
 
Bob
And? I'm not saying these people did nothing wrong. I'm merely criticising how the media (et al.) have presented this.
 
I promiced my dog unlimited hamburger, but it wasnt long before he was a gross abuser :-)
 
6:50 AM
What percentage of people will be effected by the change ? only 1% of users are gross abusers. so your network cant handle 1% of users actually being unlimited, yet your entier sales pitch is unlimited? Go away kid you bother me.
"I use +100GB per month of on-device data. Would love to know if I am a problematic user." Your next. and dont cry to me if your box of cerial only has 12Oz in it :-)
 
heh. Wierdly, we have unlimited wired internet, and formerly very generous wireless. Alas, if I want 4G I'll need to go from 12gb to I think 2 a month. Not that I use 2gb a month ;p
 
Bob
 
7:23 AM
;p. Isn't that the whole point? Like that whole guide on the itanic architecture?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek itanic?
o.O
 
@DragonLord So 7 GB is the limit in "unlimited"? Good to know :D
 
Yeah, he was writing a series of posts about the itanium architecture, with reference to the windows port
 
Bob
8:04 AM
@JourneymanGeek So, I'm back to investigating ZNC :P
Might do what this guy did and run ZNC with Quassel connecting to it.
Or maybe just raw ZNC.
 
@Bob: What do you need?
ZNC + quassel seems like an odd combo. ZNC makes more sense if you also want to use an arbitrary IRC client, like I do
Quassel is a bouncer, just less flexible IMO ;p
If I was doing this, I'd try to pair up znc + a web based IRC client
Which I'm not doing cause its too damned distracting ;p SE chat is bad enough!
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Always-on IRC. Searchable log.
@JourneymanGeek Yea, I kinda like the idea of Quassel, but I don't really want to be locked in.
Running Quassel on top of ZNC would give me more options.
 
@Bob: hm. I THINK znc has logs. A persistant web based IRC client would make it shiny
 
Bob
I might just start with ZNC and see if I still want Quassel.
 
I guess.
 
Bob
8:14 AM
Now what to name the server... hermes? :P
> Angelia (Ἀγγελία), spirit of messages, tidings and proclamations
 
My dedi servers have no name ;p
 
Bob
> Arke (Άρκη), messenger of the Titans and twin sister of Iris
> Iris (Ίρις), goddess of the rainbow and divine messenger
 
The server is nameless. The VM is called "journeymanweb"
arke would be a good bet. I've never heard of it ;p
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek You just want to use iris :P
 
lol. My namespace won't be expanding for a while.
 
Bob
8:20 AM
@JourneymanGeek Yea, I'll probably go with arke
 
(My laptop(s) are fine, desktop will likely end up being a 'fixed' name like the primary laptop)
and any future hardware is likely to be replacements not total new builds ;p
This the dedi?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Ya.
Also named gaia :P
I don't have a rhea anymore, though.
My lxd host might be named rhea.
 
I don't have either ;p
and hestia, my rpi is currently not running
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek New server has gaia, calliope, pheme, clio and now arke.
Old has (had?) gaia, rhea, phoebe, terraria (now calliope), firefox (now pheme), web, leto, blog
 
ahh. I run nearly everything (well in theory) on journeymanweb. Eventually ttrss will be moved there, with everything on its own subdomain. Right now I have wordpress, and a proxied python web server ;p
oh and maybe wallabag. Not decided on that yet. I have a subdomain setup and pointing at the server, but I don't really use it that much
but everything will run on the same server with different virtual hosts.
 
Bob
8:57 AM
> Uses common DH primes No, DHE suites not supported
DH public server param (Ys) reuse No, DHE suites not supported
 
9:42 AM
@Bob: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/53923/… this is probably the least strange question I've seen from him ;p
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ...that's the same guy?!
I saw it earlier but I could've sworn I checked the user and it was different...
 
;p Same guy
 
9:54 AM
I must say tho, he's pretty effective at getting them imaginary internet points.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek And appearing on HNQ :P
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Hot Network Questions
 
ah hah! yup
 
Bob
hm
what's a good subdomain for an irc bouncer?
irc.? znc.? ircb.?
 
10:01 AM
I just use the ip address ;p
Don't forget you'll likely use a non standard port, and its not like you can direct traffic by hostname.
If its going to sit on its own server, maybe, but znc is lightweight enough that that's a waste.
ooh. tho, you can do reverse dns I guess?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek It is on its own server, and its own IP :P
 
Bob
Assigned 1GB of RAM for now. Might reduce it if I ever start running out, but that's probably not gonna happen.
SP-64 :D
 
znc.foo.bar makes sense I guess.
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek I'm chucking it on the dedi.
 
10:08 AM
But that's cause I've run IRC servers in the past
 
Bob
Everything on the dedi that's remotely permanent gets its own VM.
 
and IP address? ;p
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek wellllll I did buy a /27
 
(but mine comes with one. I got a second. Anything important goes on the VM so I can semi-trivially dump it out. The main install is essentially disposable ;p)
 
Bob
10:47 AM
hm
@JourneymanGeek now I need to pick a port
hmmmmmm
 
what's the default?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek there isn't one :P
znc@arke:~$ znc --makeconf
[ .. ] Checking for list of available modules...
[ >> ] ok
[ ** ]
[ ** ] -- Global settings --
[ ** ]
[ ?? ] Listen on port (1025 to 65534):
 
6669 maybe?
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek maybe. I was thinking just 6667
 
I use ninety one twenty
 
Bob
10:49 AM
o.O
any significance?
 
meh. Wierdly I don't think the standard IRC port is good for that.
 
Bob
eh, I don't run an irc server and I don't plan to
 
No idea. I just used that cause my ISP used to block both the standard web powers, and its become my standard "I NEED A PORT" port.
 
Bob
7666? :P
 
Yeah. ;p
I wonder if anyone ever uses a >5 digit port ;p
 
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