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2:00 PM
Most wireless sets have a 3.5mm input tbh but portable still makes them a lot more expensive
 
Bob
Speaking of which... meelec sales around now, might see if I can grab a pair of Matrix2s
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Eh... after experiencing their drivers... shudder
 
@Bob negative -> negative isn't really informative, but negative -> positive or positive -> positive is. Negative -> positive would be quite weird though, unless he just never noticed the dropouts before
 
Bob
It's a step above Beats (maaaybe) and that's about it
@allquixotic Yea, but did he have em before M?
 
2:01 PM
dunno
 
So I used to have these:
 
Bob
Hm. M9B is BT... but no aptX.
 
They used to seem a lot less ugly when I was a 12-year-old kid
 
Bob
doh
Matrix2 was $60
juuuust missed it
 
Was going to upgrade to these but they had less powah
 
Bob
2:05 PM
Hm. Coupon still works.
> Offer expires 11/30/2015 at midnight PST
@allquixotic Would you say the Matrix2 was comfortable? Generally good?
(explosive sounds and stuttering notwithstanding)
 
@Bob gimme an address and I'll send you mine. I'll even pay for the shipping.
I have the Matrix 1, Samsung Level On, and my favorite-of-all-time Sennheiser M2OEBT, so sending you my Matrix 2 wouldn't be limiting in any way
 
Aww SU Love <3
 
Bob
@allquixotic I'd at least want to pay whatever a fair price is supposed to be... wouldn't really feel right otherwise
 
@Bob um... Merry Christmas, then? :P
 
@JourneymanGeek Only $29.99... And how are they?
 
2:10 PM
The older ones were pretty good
 
woah, doing some shipping calcs and it's ridiculous
 
lol @boomboxes.. i thought I was old school.
 
@qasdfdsaq That website is one of trusted and respected websites out there?
 
Bob
@allquixotic ...yea, that's one reason I'm so hesitant whenever I look at US products :P
 
@Boris_yo Which one?
 
Bob
2:16 PM
@allquixotic Just out of curiosity, how ridiculous is it?
 
@Bob UPS thinks it's $170+ USD, whereas I got FedEx to estimate a low of $92
 
Bob
O_O
 
basically the cost of the headphones, new
 
Bob
Meelec does $18 through USPS first class
@allquixotic Funnily enough, that's about how much they quoted me to send a tablet back to Amazon (reimbursed, thankfully)
ended up going with a small courier (cause auspost refuses to take li-ion batteries, and UPS wanted to charge even more for that)
@allquixotic So, yea, thanks for the offer, but I'll probably just order off meelec, or amazon
 
OK, USPS is telling me there's a flat rate of $45.95 for a padded envelope, which I could fit the cans in by swiveling the cups to be slim (inline with the band)
 
Bob
2:18 PM
Hm... they're about the same taking shipping into account. $9 shipping on Amazon but the headphones are $10 more
 
that's less than the cost of a new pair, even on sale, but still expensive
 
Bob
Altogether it comes to about 80 USD for me to get a new pair from the US
 
or $45.95 for my used pair :P
 
Bob
or the equivalent of 110 USD to get it local
 
if you want my used pair and insist on paying, I'll ship 'em to you at cost, just what it costs me to get the envelope (probably $3 or so) + $45.95
 
Bob
2:20 PM
@allquixotic But that's only shipping - actual item worth is probably at least a good $40. Hm... maybe a bit lower if compared to sale price. They went for $60 'opened but new' on ebay a couple times
 
nothing but a slight amount of normal wear and tear on 'em... battery is still really good... and, hey, they're not defective, since they work oh-so-flawlessly on my iPhone
 
Bob
The local prices are ridiculous @_@
 
@Bob oh. crap. they're gonna make me fill out a customs form and then pay extra based on the value of the item, right?
 
Bob
@allquixotic ah, nah
Below $1000 threshold. No import GST or duties. AUSFTA? something like that
Heck, I don't think second-hand has them anyway, regardless or price.
 
too bad I sent my Droid Maxx to a buddy, or I could send you the cans and a phone that has the bug... that way you could sit there and tell me how, in Australia, you don't experience whatever wacko interference causes the dropouts in the US, and everything's perfect :P
(which somehow magically doesn't ever happen on an iPhone, or at least not often enough for me to have experienced it in a few hundred hours of listening)
 
Bob
2:24 PM
Hm... they're getting rid of the tax-free threshold Jul 2017 -_-
@allquixotic Heh. Now you have me tempted to try to find a US model phone to test out.
 
It's not related to LTE, since I had dropouts in airplane mode on my Note4
 
Bob
Dammit. Too bad they're 'preparing for shipment' on my other Amazon order. Would've been nice if I could've combined this into that.
...might've saved about 3 USD on shipping :P
@allquixotic Could it be some CDMA thing?
 
@Bob with airplane mode on, there's no CDMA signaling going on.
literally none.
 
Doubtful that its CDMA related
 
Bob
@allquixotic Maybe just environmental noise? ...but that's not 2.4GHz.
 
2:27 PM
because the FAA used to (doesn't any longer) have regulations requiring that airplane mode restricts all cellular band signaling
 
Bob
Or maybe whatever hardware difference required to support CDMA, if any?
Just throwing it out there, because one glaring difference between AU and US is we don't use CDMA.
 
@Bob environmental noise that gets worked around perfectly by whatever iOS/Apple/their hardware supply chain for Bluetooth/CDMA/LTE does differently than Android manufacturers? :S
 
Bob
In fact, IIRC the US is the only country that uses it heavily.
Maybe Japan too...
 
@qasdfdsaq Trustedreviews.com
 
Bob
@allquixotic Hell if I know...
You've used Qualcomm and Exynos. Maybe there's something common to them?
Buuuut that doesn't explain why <4.4 worked :S
 
2:28 PM
I've never used Exynos. Never owned an Exynos SoC.
 
@Boris_yo They're pretty good for audio related stuff. A lot of the mainstream stuff has become commercialised and junk though
 
Bob
@allquixotic Oh really? So just Qualcomm?
 
But I did upgrade the firmware from 4.2.2 to 4.4.0 on a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 and that's when the bug was first introduced
 
Bob
Hm. Maybe ask someone who does use Exynos?
Might just be a Qualcomm issue.
In which case Apple SoCs would be unaffected.
 
> I have the same issue with my new Galaxy S6 Edge+ Google music both from the cloud and from my phone are completely unplayable-- skip skip skip skip. Same with Pandora. This is to both of our cars (GM). This is complete crap. $800 phone that can't do what my $50 phone did perfectly.
 
Bob
2:30 PM
Welp.
 
> Happens on my wife's note 4 all the time and my note 5 was doing it today. Didn't happen on our s3 and doesn't happen on our ipads. It's super annoying for such an important feature. Paired with a bose soundlink 3
those phones are Exynos worldwide
(Note5 and S6 Edge+)
 
Bob
I really should just update my S4 to 4.4 and see if it happens there.
 
Let me build you a 6.0
I just finished building 6.0 for my S4
 
Bob
They're rolling out 5.0.1 to some countries. AU might get it next year :\
Slovenia, Croatia, Brazil, Germany... Austria (which I almost misread)
 
Onlything that's not working on mine is the microphone within apps.. well it works for calls only.. But everything else is working (Although I think after these changes my microphone should work)
GPS, tethering, Mobile, Wifi, Bluetooth, Camera, Sound.. All working with 0 issues.
 
Bob
2:33 PM
@Dave Heh, is it stable?
I don't really want to mess around with that phone.
 
@Bob: yep!
 
Bob
It's effectively my backup phone now.
GT-I9505?
 
i545
 
Bob
Ah, noooope then :P
 
SCH-I545 rather
 
2:34 PM
Hmm. I have an LG Volt on the Sprint network (FreedomPop) with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 400. I should try it
 
Bob
CDMA variant. Lurvely.
 
I could build it for GT-I9505.. same hardware ;P
 
Bob
Wait, CDMA variant? You should do the BT test! :D
 
i have the firmware blobs for it online too.
 
Bob
@allquixotic Which Android version?
 
2:36 PM
@Bob 4.4.4
which was indeed one of the affected Android versions on other devices I've owned
 
yey stagefright
 
Bob
@allquixotic Too bad the Meelec Move doesn't support aptX :\
 
LG OTA'ed out Stagefright on the Volt :D
 
Bob
I prefer on-ear, not over-ear.
 
me too
 
Bob
2:38 PM
@allquixotic Yup, LG's very good about updates.
@allquixotic Oh - is it Micro or Mini USB?
 
actually it's a build of 4.4.2, not 4.4.4, but stagefright is fixed anyway
micro USB
wait, the headphones?
 
Bob
Yea
 
the headphones are mini... let me double check that but I'm 99% sure
 
Bob
Ouch...
> Or ship to an Amazon Pickup location
20 locations near this address
O_O
...pickup locations? 20? in this small region of Sydney? by Amazon? wat?
...oh, they look like the AusPost ones
 
they're just Amazon "lockers" where they drop off your package and you get to go pick it up
you don't get it any faster, usually.
 
Bob
2:41 PM
@allquixotic I was more surprised they had them here
@allquixotic Looks like the new Matrix2s do have micro USB
Damn, the Move even looks better
 
hehe, my corporate discount site at Lenovo is selling off an Ideapad Y700 with 8 GB of RAM, a Skylake i7, and a GTX 960M 2GB VRAM with a 1 TB HDD and 128GB SSD and 1080p screen, for $809 USD
super tempting, mainly for the GPU at that price
 
Bob
960M is decent
minor upgrade over the 860M, I'm told
 
beats the pants off my T530's Fermi Quadro
Fermi. FFS. -_-
 
Bob
you probably won't be doing any heavy gaming on there, but it runs Skyrim at an acceptable FPS on med quality :P
 
Bob
2:46 PM
That SSD is a bit sad though.
128 GB? Really?!
 
it'll probably run SWTOR pretty well too
@Bob it's called, chuck an 850 Pro 1 TB in there post-purchase :P
 
Bob
lol
what, you have one just lying around? :P
 
well... using it as maxCache, but kinda, yeah
it's "lying around" in the sense that it's suspended in air by the tension on the SATA cable
 
Bob
I'm just eagerly waiting for my shitty OCZ so I can test it out and chuck my games on there :P
 
2:47 PM
> $800 phone that can't do what my $50 phone did perfectly.
 
I literally have a 5.25" bay stuffed full of three SSDs suspended in air by wires
 
Well you could say the same about using an old Nokia as a football
@allquixotic I used to have that, then I got one of these: scan.co.uk/products/…
 
Bob
@allquixotic I think I'll just buy them off Amazon if they're still this price in the morning :P
@allquixotic That reminds me I need to install my caddy. And my now-3-month-old SSD. And Windows 10. Urk.
All this crap just waiting to be used.
 
I don't know what it is about Lenovo. They refuse to put decent GPUs in their laptops. I mean, would it kill them to offer a top-end IdeaPad with a 970M?
 
Bob
@allquixotic Yes. :D
 
2:52 PM
-_-
 
Bob
Might be a cooling issue?
I mean, they are quite thin.
 
I hear they make these things called fans that can help cool computers
 
Bob
Or maybe it just costs too much? shrug
 
not trying to be salty, just annoyed at Lenovo
 
Bob
I mean if you really wanted a 970M, MSI or Asus probably makes something.
Or one of the Clevo builders
 
2:54 PM
I mean, basically what I would want in a laptop is a damn powerful GPU and reasonably light - I don't even need it to have good battery life; any time I'm using it, I'd have mains access... even on a train or plane these days
upgradable things can be shit for all I care; upfront purchase price is the hardest part for me... once I have the base unit, I can incrementally make it awesome
 
Bob
@allquixotic Your trains have mains access?
@allquixotic Try a Clevo reseller :P
 
@Bob they have NEMA standard U.S. wall outlets powered by an 8 or 12 cylinder APU generator in the locomotive (diesel)
 
Bob
@allquixotic Oh, those trains.
When you think of train, you probably think long-distance.
 
well yeah :P
 
Bob
When I think of train, I think something more like your subways.
 
2:56 PM
actually I think of three types of train I've been on a lot
 
Bob
Sydney is too sprawly to have a subway as such.
 
we have "light rail", which is electrified catenary cables overtop a reduced gauge track, built specifically for an above-ground sort of "subway" in Baltimore
 
Bob
Out long-distance ones are 'intercity' ... and don't have outlets AFAIK. Maybe the diesel ones do. The electric ones (which sometimes end up on the intracity lines, Oscar-class) don't
 
we have "commuter rail", which runs on tracks owned by the huge freight conglomerate CSX, and tracks owned by Amtrak, operated by the state, and it runs between major cities and large workplace hubs (mainly, it stops every 5 to 8 minutes between Baltimore and Washington, picking up people near where they live and taking them into the cities)
 
@allquixotic The 960 is already a decent GPU. In fact Lenovo is one of the few (only?) manufacturers right now putting ANY GPUs into convertible laptops. Sadly, they're extremely hard to get hold of and riddled with bugs
 
2:58 PM
then we have long distance rail, mainly funded by the Federal government, in the way of Amtrak, and they run all across the country, but are not really suited to short distance
commuter rail is almost entirely diesel locomotives, with a few exceptions; long distance rail is also usually diesel, but light rail and below-ground subways are catenary cables and electrified third rail, respectively
out of all those train services, the only one I know of that regularly does not offer outlets is the subway
 
Bob
@allquixotic Our "light rail" is basically nonexistent and are trams
Well, they were trams. I honestly have no idea what this new service is.
 
Not to mention, Dell only puts 960M's into their high-end laptops too
Also, Lenovo will be putting much better GPUs into their laptops in the near future
 

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