Root Access

allquixotic

5:00 AM

Goodbye games, hello real life. Time to install Fedora. \o/

Bob

Heh, trying to answer this one

I finally learned to use Process Monitor and found a packageRepository.edb

now, I just hope it's not some proprietary format :P

Journeyman Geek

process monitor is the shit

Bob

TrID time

Journeyman Geek

(I'm prolly not editing it, anyone looking for a edit-tile?)

lol. some of my favourite in case tools ;p

Bob

There's an edit tile?

Journeyman Geek

5:02 AM

ya, 10 edits

Bob

@JourneymanGeek is that good enough to keep it? :P

Journeyman Geek

Does need work ;p

I'm torn tho. strictly speaking thats too localised

Bob

China is a special case for Win8, though

Journeyman Geek

but its a useful question

oh?

Bob

Windows 8 editions

Windows 8 has four editions, each with varying feature sets. Editions ; :Windows 8 is the basic edition of Windows for the x86 and x86-64 architectures. This edition contains features aimed at the home market segment and provides all of the basic new Windows 8 features including the Start screen with semantic zoom, live tiles, Windows Store, Internet Explorer 10, connected standby, Microsoft account integration, the Windows desktop and more. ; :Windows 8 Pro is comparable to Windows 7 Professional and Ultimate and is targeted towards enthusiasts and business users; it includes all the f...

There's a special version of Windows for China

Cheaper than others, but Chinese only

> It will be offered at relatively low price in an attempt to curb rampant software piracy in China.

Journeyman Geek

5:07 AM

ahh

Bob

hm

Journeyman Geek

I donno. I can't imagine using windows in a language I don't understand ;p

Bob

might change the question again, actually

'can a global copy of Windows 8 be activated in china?'

Journeyman Geek

I think its fine as is

Bob

and mention there's a Chinese only version

Journeyman Geek

5:09 AM

why not use comments here?

Bob

good point

Journeyman Geek

"The edits are so that the question is less localised, I'd note thought that china has its own edition LINK" or something

superuser.com/questions/tagged/school This tag needs to die

Bob

I've edited the question to be a little less localised, but do note that China is a special case, as there is a Windows for China that is Chinese only, and cheaper than the international version. This may be the one you are referring to. As far as I know, the international version should be installable in China. — Bob 1 min ago

How's that?

@JourneymanGeek The only question is more SFey anyway :P

Journeyman Geek

I see 13 ;p

I just edited out one

Bob

what

oh, I'm on the unanswered tab

:\

yay, TrID has no idea what PackageRepository.edb is :P

Journeyman Geek

5:15 AM

lol

Bob

Ok, during installation it's extracted into a temp directory and then deleted

Great, gotta prevent deletion.. hmm..

vamsi

:p

hi..all

Bob

Let's mess around with ACLs

... I removed delete permissions, they still disappeared :\

allquixotic

Clean reinstall of windows 8 is working on desktop. Lost hundreds of hours of work installing programs, activating, downloading games, save games, etc. But no critical data

lappy seems like it might successfully upgrade without losing any data

allquixotic

5:43 AM

Still hating redmond

Bob

urk

some friendly advice, especially for you @allquixotic

do not end msiexec.exe while uninstalling a Windows Store app

I just broke it :P

well, time for a 'refresh' :\

Some files are missing?!

headbang

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

Win7 was so much more robust...

This is like Vista all over again :\

Journeyman Geek

we weren't poking around things that weren't quite meant to be poked around in 7 ;p

Bob

5:58 AM

@JourneymanGeek I've poked around a fair bit there

Ok, I'm back to the Win8 bootloader somehow :\

also, "There was a problem refreshing your PC"

Well isn't that helpful

Journeyman Geek

now that I find confusing

Bob

!@#$

great. now I have a broken store.

only one thing to do... reinstall! -_-

I'll see you on the other end

there needs to be some way to reset the store :\

refresh keeps the store but resets everything else

not helping

Sathya

lol

Bob

ok, I am not gonna risk a reset. with my luck, it's gonna wipe my other drives too

time to start with a clean Win8 image

wow, Win8 copies large files at least twice as fast :\

Heh, back to the Win7 bootloader

I swear it's just alternating :\

Journeyman Geek

6:14 AM

lol

that is just plain wierd behaviour

Bob

actually

I get the feeling a clean boot is from the Win7 loader

and a 'bypass DVD' boot is from the Win8 one

mah, it works for now

let's hope my backup vhd doesn't need another bcdboot

Tom Wijsman

Have you tested this process? When I set any other browser as default, the currently running Modern UI browser is automatically closed. — Bob 3 hours ago

Sorcery... o_O

Bob

lol

MS really doesn't want multiple MUI browsers :S

Tom Wijsman

Well, it's a matter of writing a hook that gives each process the default browser from the point they have started back. Such that none close because they all think they are the default.

Perhaps no need for a script if it's somehow possible to make the process believe it's the default right from the start.

Also might be a problem to go injecting DLLs into Metro processes on 64 bit...

Bob

I think it's Windows that's forcibly closing the apps, not the apps themselves querying the default.

Though this might not affect directly assigning the default (registry setting?); it might be something to do with Windows' default selection dialogue...

Tom Wijsman

6:29 AM

@Bob: Dunno, I really feel like it's something polling, one could verify using Process Monitor.

I don't think they would implement this behavior right into the Windows API, so it's probably somewhere in either the Metro interface (the shell / library / runtime) as I'd suppose it's not the browser itself doing it.

But well, you can subscribe to registry I/O events and that's what I suppose Metro is doing...

Bob

Wow. Did explorer just crash when attempting to search?!

Yay for stability, anyone? :\

Sathya

looks like you're running into some serious hardware issues/incompatibility?

Boris_yo

6:46 AM

Bob has new avatar so congratz to him.

I wonder how did commenter stylized his username:

Must have something to do with ASCII coding?

I saw same thing people do on YouTube and they even can draw stuff.

Bob

7:20 AM

there we go

Sathya

7:36 AM

congrats @georgeduckett on being the second person to hit level 4

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George Duckett

@Sathya Thanks! (You noticed that quick!)

Sathya

;)

also, welcome to Root access

Journeyman Geek

hmm, release is today?

* is noticing a lot of licence related questions*

@GeorgeDuckett: congrats

Sathya

@JourneymanGeek yep

George Duckett

@JourneymanGeek thanks!

Still getting the hang of the tone of this site compared to SO (as people might have noticed!) hopefully future answers/questions will be better!

Sathya

7:46 AM

@GeorgeDuckett what difference have you noticed?

(wrt tone)

George Duckett

well maybe not tone, but the need ease off of opinions and back things up with facts

Journeyman Geek

@GeorgeDuckett: probably the nature of what we're working with I guess

George Duckett

yeah, think I just took comments the wrong way at the time

Journeyman Geek

(however, the red freeline circle is used here as well)

George Duckett

@JourneymanGeek heh, glad to see. (I admit that i didn't freehand a recent question though)!

Journeyman Geek

7:48 AM

I personally don't use em ;p

George Duckett

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Q: Desktop preview on start screen tile

Is it possible to display a preview of the desktop on the desktop tile, like you get when switching to it?

Journeyman Geek

If i have time, I tend to 'darken' the areas not of interest. I also use arrows off paint.net ;p

George Duckett

I really should start using that instead of mspaint

Journeyman Geek

Oh, the moment you get used to nice things like layers, you can't go back

George Duckett

yeah, I use GIMP a bit, but I find it a bit much when i'm just cropping a screenshot

Bob

7:59 AM

Layers? Bleh.

George Duckett

what are the billy clippy and willy tags? I shudder at the mention of "clippy"

Bob

For screenshots, I prefer vector based programs, or at least something that keeps every drawn arrow as an individual object (without needing to create a layer) :P

Sathya

@GeorgeDuckett 's a little easter egg ;)

George Duckett

hmm, not sure i can crack it (haha, get it?) they 404 when i follow them

Sathya

@GeorgeDuckett see if you can summon clippy ;) chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=clippy&room=118

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Q: Can I purchase the Windows 8 upgrade and install it on another PC?

I want to upgrade to Windows 8. My one friend bought a new PC some days ago. He is not interested in windows 8 upgrade. Can I use his system details to upgrade to Windows 8 in 14.99$ on my PC which was bought two years ago.

windows-8

this can be made to a community faq for all Win 8 upgrade scenarios

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A: Pick an easter egg for chat.superuser!

via @balpha: how about this: When the message matches /^how (?:can|do) I (.+)\?/i, a talking paper clip appears with a speech bubble saying "It looks like you're trying to \1. Do you want some help?" and a link to SU ala from: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/11/dont-forget-to-lock-...

George Duckett

8:22 AM

how do i summon clippy?

hehe

Bob

So, which smartarse at MS decided it would be a good idea to offer upgrades only?

Journeyman Geek

8:34 AM

@Bob: actually I did find it a little odd that they merged retail into the system builder edition and not vice versa

ok, I'm confused. Does the minimum edit char limit get turned off at one point?

just made a one char edit. Not that it matters other than it was bothered me

George Duckett

If the edits aren't reviewed (because of high rep) they get through fine.

Journeyman Geek

There's also, if I recall an automated system to prevent edits less than a certain character count.

George Duckett

Oh ok, not sure I've ever seen it and I sometimes correct small things (possibly mostly my own posts though).

Journeyman Geek

8:50 AM

Own posts are fine

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Eh, mass confusion. Not fun.

Not sure why they're pushing the upgrade that heavily...

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: prolly cause they want to keep the OEMs happy ;p

Bob

I imagine they might do better targeting users of, say, OS X, especially with such a massive interface change

Journeyman Geek

What i really don't get is...

why didn't the take the opportunity to have proper virtual desktops in windows...

;p

and that

Bob

huh

Firefox Nightly just opened a PDF.

With no plugins installed.

What the hell..

Apparently it's been there since FF 14 o.O

Journeyman Geek

9:00 AM

lol

Journeyman Geek

9:20 AM

engadget.com/2012/10/25/…

thats rather.. odd.. packaging for windows 8

@jokerdino: nature.com/news/how-to-eat-a-triceratops-1.11650

Bob

Ok, MS, wtf are you doing with the Messaging app?!

Journeyman Geek

what's wrong with it, other than not supporting jabber? ;p

Bob

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Q: How do I use the Messaging app with an account different from my primary Microsoft account?

I set up this computer with a Local account. I have linked it to my 'primary' Microsoft account - which is used in the Mail and Store apps. There are no other accounts linked at this time. I wish to use the Messaging app with a different Microsoft account. However, Add an account only lets me a...

windows-8 windows-live-messenger

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek lol o.O

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ...You could guess Japan just by the box art :\

Journeyman Geek

9:25 AM

XD

(After this term, I'm going back to at least one linux box. Getting rusty :/ )

Sathya

-1

Q: Windows 7 to Windows 8 upgrade with Slow Internet connection

I have Windows 7 on my laptop, and have promo code for upgrade Windows 7 to Windows 8 too. I have limited download usage with my 2G mobile Internet. Advice me for upgrade with these resources ?

windows-8

Journeyman Geek

not sure if I should go back to kubuntu or try something new

@Sathya: RFC 1149

that would solve his problem

Sathya

LOL. I knew that would come up :P

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Be more subtle... reference the RFC number :P

Sathya

oh hey @kronos congrats on 10k :-) finally you get to see the underbelly of Super User & imma bet you'd not want to see that :P

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Journeyman Geek

9:33 AM

wierd, I have an unupvote, and an upvote. I wonder if someone just worked out they could do that ;p

@Sathya: 3k is where its at ;p

Sathya

:P

Journeyman Geek

(though, I do like being able to protect questions)

Bob

Nightly Firefox is being surprisingly stable :S

jokerdino

wut

Bob

I honestly expected a crash by now

Sathya

9:44 AM

@Sathya, There are some more possible way too... I can buy Windows 8 with slow connection and can download it by some links. I know well there is way to make installation media during my upgrade... Just asked here to know possibilities of other way.... I never come back to super user... Waste of Time... — Kumar P 1 min ago

jokerdino

It doesn't crash but freezes for me.

Sathya

don't let the door hit you on your way out.

jokerdino

He will be missed. :P

Sathya

I'm really tempted to put that comment.

but alas.

Journeyman Geek

ya, we're supposed to be nice to people

Sathya

9:47 AM

yeah.

Journeyman Geek

Summer of love and all that blog.stackoverflow.com/2012/07/kicking-off-the-summer-of-love

jokerdino

Hey, it's no summer out here.

Journeyman Geek

(but then again, can't hurt to get to know the community, warm fuzziness is a two way street!)

George Duckett

yeah, not for us northern(hemisphere)ers.

Sathya

yeah. We're end-of-monsoons, start of winter here.

you know what WInter is phamous for?

COLD

HARSH COLD TRUTHHHHHHHHHHH

jokerdino

9:49 AM

xD

Sathya

</dramatical chat>

Journeyman Geek

winter is coming

I need to catch up with that at some point

dratted real life

Sathya

imma be back later. ciao

jokerdino

cya

Bob

@Sathya I like cold

Cold => you can warm up

Wannabe Mini Mathematician

9:54 AM

This is the last annoying question I ask:
Does this method work if I use a Windows 7 CD (because I'd like some upgrading)? http://lifehacker.com/157578/geek-to-live--how-to-format-your-hard-drive-and-install-windows-xp-from-scratch

Bob

Hot => uhm... :\

jokerdino

@Bob I see what you are looking for.

Bob

@jokerdino No double entendre intended.

Wannabe Mini Mathematician

My WinXP is corrupted so can I use a Win7 disk?

Bob

@WannabeMiniMathematician If you wanted to install Win7 on it, sure.

jokerdino

9:55 AM

@Bob I'll take your word for that.

Bob

(you also need a Win7 key)

Journeyman Geek

@WannabeMiniMathematician: yes, you can install a new os from scratch, which is very much what that is.

George Duckett

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Q: What version(s) of the .NET framework are included in windows 8?

If I install windows 8 what version(s) of the .NET framework will be installed before any auto-updating? What about after applying any automatic updates?

windows-8 .net-framework fresh-install

Wannabe Mini Mathematician

@JourneymanGeek: How about the drivers?

If I format it, then the drivers will be gone.

Journeyman Geek

yup

Wannabe Mini Mathematician

10:05 AM

Then I guess I'd just send my system to some engineer. -.-

Bob

Windows works to an extent with the default drivers. Most others you can download from the manufacturer's website anyway.

o.O

Correct! :-) This is really the error message when you run the Windows 8 Installer already on a Windows 8! Nice error message though! — FiveO 1 min ago

Journeyman Geek

^ that

one moment, having minon shot.

... thats amusing...

and it works in compat mode?

Bob

Why did you forget to say you were doing it in windows 8? and why did you run windows 8 upgrade in windows 8? It is already windows 8? — ppumkin 7 mins ago

That is a very good question.

@JourneymanGeek you're going to run out soon at this rate

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: prolly

Tom Wijsman

12:24 PM

Ah, the ex4 corruption bug...

> Update: It now looks like the reproduction involved something very esoteric indeed, involving using umount -l and shutdowns while the file system was still being unmounted --- and the user had nobarrier specified in the mount options as well.

plus.google.com/117091380454742934025/posts/Wcc5tMiCgq7

HackToHell

yay omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/valve-to-launch-steam-linux-beta-at-uds

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