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Cerberus

18:00

@RegDwighт Yes, or, in certain cases, make the alternative more desirable.

KitFox

@Cerberus Because that would be immoral.

RegDwighт

But well, as I said, we discussed this before. Let stupid people be stupid. It's not my country they are running.

Cerberus

@KitFox But you've already killed someone, so you will be locked up and waterboarded for life already.

@KitFox Ehh why is that crazy? Or do you mean that the fact that she is pregnant is not yet an aggravating circumstance (or what is it called)?

KitFox

just looks @Cerb

@Cerberus No, it's not crazy. My friend is crazy. Not for that, she just is.

RegDwighт

Wow the background suddenly looks so fake in that image. It never did in the movie.

Cerberus

18:02

@RegDwighт Yeah, although hoi polloi want harsher punishment here as well. Isn't it the same in Germany?

@KitFox Oh OK. So is the proposal as I described?

RegDwighт

@Cerberus are you asking if there are dumb people everywhere?

Cerberus

@RegDwighт Fake? It looks like a very read blue wall.

@RegDwighт Yes.

RegDwighт

@Cerberus green. They use green walls now. Look closer.

Cerberus

I mean, you can say "it's America's problem", but there is pressure here as well to move into the same direction.

RegDwighт

There are so many religious people on CUUSOO, you wouldn't believe it.

Cerberus

18:03

@RegDwighт Are you colour blind?

forgot what CUUSOO was again

RegDwighт

Every second person who does fill out their profile says something like "I am a catholic and proud of it", or at the very least "May God continue to bless you and your loved ones and America".

Cerberus

Haha hilarious.

RegDwighт

@Cerberus the site the image is from. lego.cuusoo.com/ideas/view/39090

Cerberus

Ahh.

RegDwighт

It's doubly strange since one of the official guidelines for projects is "No religion".

Cerberus

18:06

Haha.

How about "no nationalism"?

RegDwighт

I guess people have to compensate by putting it front and center in their profiles instead.

Cerberus

And "no talking about money, politics, health, or class".

RegDwighт

@Cerberus no sex, no alcohol except in historical settings, no military stuff except from before WWII, and no rules apply if it's Star Wars.

Cerberus

Clear.

Wait, are you serious?

RegDwighт

Yes.

They rejected Firefly on the grounds that one of the characters on the show was a companion.

Cerberus

18:08

So a WWI chemical bomb is allowed?

RegDwighт

But Carrie Fisher in a bikini at the age of OVER 9000 is okay.

Cerberus

The kind that choked and burned, what, 50,000 people alive at Verdun?

RegDwighт

@Cerberus yes, Carrie Fisher in a bikini is allowed.

Cerberus

Haha. Of course I wouldn't know who that is.

But I imagine large breasts.

JSBձոգչ

yeah, but what does a lego chemical bomb look like?

RegDwighт

18:09

Cerberus

Lots of lego figures lying face down.

JSBձոգչ

Cerberus

And lots of heavy artillery.

@JSBձոգչ WTF.

A porn actress?

Johan Larsson

Leia ffs

RegDwighт

Seriously we were watching the movie, what's it's called now, Episode six? the other week and both my wife and I simultaneously went WTF she's like sixty.

GILF.

Without the L.

Cerberus

18:10

Haha.

So a statement of fact.

Reg, I had no idea.

For the money?

RegDwighт

You seldom do! That's why I'm here to help.

Cerberus

Thanks a bunch.

Johan Larsson

I never do, don't feel bad Cerb

KitFox

RegDwighт

Yes I saw that in your images while looking for the gentleman who doesn't test.

KitFox

18:11

I can't believe you don't like slave Leia.

RegDwighт

Have you seen her?

Cerberus

Umm.

Johan Larsson

You don't worry much about NSFW in this chat

RegDwighт

I could look like that if I were wearing a gold bikini. Doesn't mean I would look good.

KitFox

She isn't sixty, she's like 25 in Return of the Jedi.

RegDwighт

18:13

Well I feel sorry for her.

KitFox

She's not wrinkly or anything.

Cerberus

25 means closer to 30 than to 20, so one foot in the grave.

KitFox

Oh shut up!

stalks off

Cerberus

Hehehe.

Robusto

Ho.

RegDwighт

18:14

And of course The Return of the Jedi is from 1983, while Carrie is from 1956.

Cerberus

I don't think she's stopping.

Robusto

@Cerberus We all have one foot in the grave, young Dutch doggy. Tomorrow is promised to no one, as they say.

2

RegDwighт

@KitFox perhaps that's the problem with the new remastered version now. She looks wrinkly in comparison.

Cerberus

@Robusto True. But some have more feet than others.

Like...a centipede.

RegDwighт

She really does not look anything like 25. 35 perhaps. And I'm being generous. I have witnesses.

Robusto

18:15

@Cerberus If your head is above ground, that's all that matters.

Cerberus

It's not.

None of them are.

What's centipede in German btw?

And in Russian?

In Dutch, duizendpoot (thousandpaw).

KitFox

@RegDwighт Oh just keep digging, why don't you?

RegDwighт

Hundertfüßler.

Cerberus

Interesting.

RegDwighт

@KitFox why, you can't handle the truth?

Cerberus

18:17

Does Russian have 100 too?

Could Dutch be the only language that has 1000?

RegDwighт

@Cerberus no you asked for centipede specifically.

Cerberus

"No"?

RegDwighт

Tausendfüßler exists and is five million times more popular than Hundertfüßler, but you didn't ask for milleniumpede.

Cerberus

I don't understand.

Robusto

@RegDwighт What a coincidence! That's exactly what the Latin-based English counterpart means! I wonder if the Germans knew that ...

@Cerberus That's overstating the case.

Cerberus

18:18

@RegDwighт So both words are used for centipede?

RegDwighт

In Russian, it's forty-legger.

Cerberus

We don't have honderdpoot.

RegDwighт

@Cerberus no. One of them. The one you didn't ask for.

Russian has fortypede and thousandpede.

Robusto

Centipedes are smaller in Russia. Either that or they've been mutilated.

Cerberus

I don't understand.

RegDwighт

18:19

@Cerberus I'm noticing.

Cerberus

I asked for the German word(s) for centipede. In Dutch, a centipede is called a duizendpoot.

KitFox

@Robusto Haven't you read James and the Giant Peach? Centipedes don't have a hundred feet.

Robusto

The word in American Valley-speak is yukky thing.

RegDwighт

Millipede

Millipedes are arthropods that have two pairs of legs per segment (except for the first segment behind the head which does not have any appendages at all, and the next few which only have one pair of legs). Each segment that has two pairs of legs is a result of two single segments fused together as one. Most millipedes have very elongated cylindrical bodies, although some are flattened dorso-ventrally, while pill millipedes are shorter and can roll into a ball, like a pillbug. The name "millipede" is a compound word formed from the Latin roots ' ("thousand") and ' ("foot"). Despite their...

Robusto

@KitFox Well, there are no giant peaches, either.

KitFox

18:20

@Robusto I thought it was ohmygodeww.

Cerberus

@RegDwighт We call those miljoenpoten, I think.

RegDwighт

Myriapoda

Myriapoda is a subphylum of arthropods containing millipedes, centipedes, and others. The group contains over 13,000 species, all of which are terrestrial. Although their name suggests they have myriad (10,000) legs, myriapods range from having over 750 legs (Illacme plenipes) to having fewer than ten legs. The fossil record of myriapods reaches back into the late Silurian, although molecular evidence suggests a diversification in the Cambrian Period, and Cambrian fossils exist which resemble myriapods. The phylogenetic classification of myriapods is still debated. The scientific study...

Robusto

@KitFox That's just the prefix.

RegDwighт

> millipedes, centipedes, and others.

You asked for centipedes specifically.

Cerberus

Yes.

Robusto

18:21

What if a centipede got arthritis? Yow.

Cerberus

We call those duizendpoten.

RegDwighт

No, that's millipedes.

Cerberus

No, we call those miljoenpoten.

Robusto

Is a legless insect called an impediment?

RegDwighт

But you are wrong.

Johan Larsson

18:21

@Cerberus tusenfoting in Swedish

Cerberus

The word "honderdpoot" does not exist, or I have never heard of it.

@JohanLarsson Ah!

RegDwighт

@JohanLarsson Tussen is German for dumb chicks.

Cerberus

@RegDwighт It's what every single Dutchman calls them.

RegDwighт

And foting sounds like some forbidden practice.

@Cerberus so what's not to understand?

Johan Larsson

forbidden by who?

Cerberus

18:23

What the normal word is that a normal German would use when he sees what an Englishman calls a centipede.

RegDwighт

I answered that.

Robusto

@Cerberus Your question is riddled with assumptions. First, but not least, that there is any such thing as a "normal" German.

RegDwighт

5 mins ago, by RegDwighт

Tausendfüßler exists and is five million times more popular than Hundertfüßler, but you didn't ask for milleniumpede.

@Robusto don't make me post that portrait again.

Cerberus

@Robusto I mean with a normal Lederhosen and a normal Dirndl.

> Duizendpoten worden zo genoemd omdat ze veel poten hebben. Opvallend is dat de soort in het Engels (centipede) en in het Duits (Hundertfüßer) "honderdpoot" genoemd wordt. De soort die in het Nederlands "miljoenpoot" genoemd wordt, wordt onder andere in het Engels millipede (dus "duizendpoot") genoemd.

This clears it up.

RegDwighт

See.

Cerberus

18:25

Centipede = duizendpoot = Hundertfüßer.

RegDwighт

Except it's a lie.

Cerberus

Millipede = miljoenpoot.

Johan Larsson

is not milli = 1000?

RegDwighт

Nobody has a million legs. You Dutch can't count.

Sheesh.

KitFox

It's because they are so much bigger there.

Robusto

18:26

@Cerberus Except Reg said Hundertfüßler and he knows many such.

KitFox

Everything is bigger in the Netherlands.

Cerberus

@JohanLarsson Yes, but we use the wrong words for some reason.

RegDwighт

Nothing is bigger in Dutch, only flatter.

And underwaterer.

Cerberus

And smaller.

Johan Larsson

lol

KitFox

18:26

I thought Dutch were the tallest people in Europe?

Cerberus

@KitFox It is either Nederland (the normal name of the country), or Koninkrijk der Nederlanden (the official name).

KitFox

Because they had to stand on their tippy-toes to see over the dikes all the time.

RegDwighт

@Cerberus Now that's a crazy theory I can't stand behind. Nothing is bigger and everything's smaller? Are you smoking again?

Cerberus

Nederlands = Dutch.

@RegDwighт Not specifically, but my window is open, so, yes.

KitFox

Have it your way.

RegDwighт

18:27

Yeah they named themselves after the Germans, then renamed the Germans.

Cerberus

I'm always educating! I appreciate the effort.

KitFox

So my code is all out on production.

bites fingernails

Cerberus

Oh, testing.

KitFox

No errors yet, but it is only just Monday so probably no one is looking.

Cerberus

I'm not looking.

Matt Эллен

18:30

looks hard

RegDwighт

looks soft

Matt Эллен

looks askance

RegDwighт

is awesome

KitFox

rolls eyes

RegDwighт

rolls dice

KitFox

18:31

What's going to make me feel better?

RegDwighт

Chocolate.

KitFox

Too far away.

Maybe zombo.com

RegDwighт

You can have chocolate on zombo.com.

KitFox

Or could get back on the raft.

RegDwighт

Raft's sailing right for zombo.com.

KitFox

18:32

Or play some more Heretic.

MετάEd

@RegDwighт It's not just the background. Looks like a cool filter on the whole frame.

KitFox

I wonder how long I ought to wait until I tell the project lead that I put the stuffs on production.

RegDwighт

@MετάEd well the entire Rome was completely blue at that time, according to the movie.

MετάEd

@RegDwighт I think they call that "atmosphere".

RegDwighт

I think they call it smurfsphere.

MετάEd

18:34

"What Dreams May Come" was sort off the scale on the smurf scale.

RegDwighт

That one was a different color in every shot.

I have no beef with that movie.

Except for the story.

Actually I can't decide if it was even dumber than Gladiator.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox just don't

when he asks, say "I thought you knew."

KitFox

@RegDwighт Haha. That's how I felt about it too.

I got crushed by a big red crusher thingy on Heretic.

Johan Larsson

in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 4 mins ago, by sbi

> Don’t bother with those new Dyson urinals. They don’t work – piss EVERYWHERE! — Jake Lodwick

(probably better with the pic) ^

KitFox

HAHAHA

Much better with the pic.

RegDwighт

18:42

Oh my.

Oh my gross.

KitFox

We have one of those in the ladies room.

Matt Эллен

lol

KitFox

I wonder if I can go home and play Pikmin.

RegDwighт

Which part?

I never played the first one to the end. Got scared and ran away.

KitFox

My boys are really into it. They call it "pinkman" and so the other guys are "purpleman" etc by extension.

@RegDwighт We got the second one.

RegDwighт

18:45

That'd be the second part, then.

Jinx.

KitFox

I think it is funny you were scared of the first one.

RegDwighт

So does my wife.

KitFox

The second one is scarier.

RegDwighт

Which is doubly funny since she can't stand any kind of violence against any kind of animals, and had a hard time getting used to the game.

KitFox

I think I might dig out the cube controllers and the first one. It's surprisingly hard to play on the Wii.

@RegDwighт I can understand that.

RegDwighт

18:46

Yeah, Cube controllers FTW.

KitFox

It was a consolation gift to my little son for not getting to golf with his brother and cousin.

I have it for the cube anyway, but I figured, what the hell.

It was $12.

RegDwighт

I got mine used from Game Stop for like five bucks.

Which is like seven bucks in your bucks.

Or six and a half.

KitFox

For the cube or the wii?

RegDwighт

Cube.

Retro all the way.

KitFox

Yeah, well. This was the Wii one.

I have the other in a box in the barn, just waiting until we move to the new house.

RegDwighт

18:51

So the six more bucks were for the cover update.

KitFox

The controls are ever so slightly different.

And the disc is bigger, innit?

RegDwighт

Hm.

@KitFox size doesn't matter when it comes to Wii.

KitFox

There is only one stick on the wiimote/nunchuck combination, so they had to improvise and also incorporate something for pointing, since you know, it;s a wii.

@RegDwighт I know it accepts both, but the Wii discs are bigger.

Right?

RegDwighт

Well they couldn't possibly be smaller.

KitFox

The pointer part makes it more difficult, especially when small children keep getting between me and the light bar.

RegDwighт

18:54

Lesson learned, never let children get between you and the bar.

KitFox

smiles

Shoot, I don't have the pic of my little one with the beer bottle.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Howdy

RegDwighт

It's okay, he'll have a second one one day.

Huzzahs, bread.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

How are you, wise owl?

RegDwighт

I am wise, thank you.

And you?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

18:57

I was just wondering, how many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?

KitFox

Three.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

OIC

KitFox

I wanted to make that the third specific aim on my doctoral proposal, but my advisor wouldn't let me.

RegDwighт

I would never lick Dustin Hofmann.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@KitFox according to some Ivy League licking machine, it's in the neighborhood of 300.

KitFox

18:59

Well.

I see.

But did they do the rest of my research?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Shrug.

changes name to Ivy League Licking Machine

KitFox

gets in line

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

installs Take-A-Number machine

KitFox

That reminds me of a time...

Ah well, no sense in reliving old slights.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Dang, I was ready for a story.

KitFox

19:03

Oh. Well, it's not that exciting.

I was in line at JoAnn Fabric, waiting to get some fabric cut. I waited through three people, which is about fifteen minutes. When there was one person left in front of me, the cutter looked at me and said "You need to take a number." I turned to find the number machine. I asked the cutter where it was.

She pointed. A woman coming up to the counter saw her point it out to me and quickly picked the next number and the woman behind me stepped around me (almost knocking into me) to pick a number before I could get there.

So I set my things on the cutting counter and walked out. I've never gone back.

Matt Эллен

bitches

Johan Larsson

that is about as pure as lack of class gets

KitFox

It was so rude, and the cutting girl said nothing about it.

Johan Larsson

Yeah but they will have to live with their ugly selves, pretty severe punishment imo

Matt Эллен

send them to the UK. we'll teach them how to queue.

TRiG

19:10

@JohanLarsson Yep. Rule One: The punishment for being an arsehole is being an arsehole.

@MattЭллен You teach them ... by tutting loudly when they get it wrong?

Johan Larsson

I have this idea that when a new counter opens there should be a reverse zipper kind of solution to the singularity. Try to educate people about my view when it happens, have even had some success.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

OMFG kill me.

Johan Larsson

why?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@KitFox jerks. I just watched the Take-A-Number Seinfeld.

@JohanLarsson I got some orders on Friday and my boss said in the notes, 'see me about these'.

basically, they had a meeting without me, and the carrier said they would handle the disconnects internally.

KitFox

Huh. That seems excessively confusing.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

19:14

Welcome to This Place.

KitFox

Somewhere in Middle America.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I spent hours with no computer today because they're supposed to give me Windows 7.

KitFox

tries to imagine w-rking without a computer

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

The server profile for one of the programs is fucked up, so I have my XP machine back.

Matt Эллен

@TRiG we can start camps. for tourists and the ill educated alike.

KitFox

19:15

covers mouth to stop laugh from coming out

Cerberus

Just stick with XP!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I would like to.

Cerberus

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 @Mahnax So I hear they have rolled up a big terrorist plot in T. and M.?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

They's gonna double my rams, though

Cerberus

I wonder whether those terrorists really planned it all themselves, or whether they were holpen by the FBI?

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 RAMs are always nice.

Really, they should ship everything with quadruple the RAM they normally do.

RAM is like beer. You always need more than you think.

Matt Эллен

19:17

@Robusto @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 @KitFox drink at work

3

woo!

I'ma show that to my boss

any other programmers too. I can't remember which of the congregation does what

Johan Larsson

16GB is enough RAM, have 12 at work and it is always about full, 32 at home and I don't think I ever saw it above 16

KitFox

@MattЭллен I can't imagine what that level would feel like.

TRiG

@MattЭллен I've never drunk at work, and only vanishingly rarely drink at all. Perhaps I should.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox 0.075? it's not easy to figure out

@TRiG that's what I'm thinking. I cycle to work, so I won't be in charge of dangerous machinery at any point

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@JohanLarsson ha! I have 2Gb in this thing.

Matt Эллен

19:21

@KitFox maybe two vodka cokes?

Johan Larsson

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 32 bit I guess, probably not much use for more than 4 then but I'm no xpert

never noticed that the 3GB switch was any help

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@JohanLarsson supposed to go to 4GB and 64-bit win7

Johan Larsson

sounds a little on the low side when making the effort, RAM is almost free. I'd say go 16/32 if your mb can handle it so that you don't have to worry about it for a couple of years

the cost for ordering and installing is probably higher any way

KitFox

1

Q: Is “Joe’s and my bicycles” correct?

Is this phrasing correct and acceptable? Here are Joe’s and my bicycles I am describing two bicycles, one owned by Joe and one owned by myself.

subject

Hmm. I know there's a dupe around here somewhere...

looks sideways @Reg

RegDwighт

@KitFox search for "mutual".

7

Q: What possessive forms are used for mutual 1st person ownership?

I want to talk to someone about the house that my wife and I own. Saying, for example, "My wife's and my house is awesome," sounds a bit funny to me. What's the best way to express this? Clarification I'm asking specifically about the grammar of multiple nouns in possessive form. I'm particu...

possessive

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

19:36

@JohanLarsson yeah, that's completely out of my control.

KitFox

@RegDwighт Oh. I searched for your wife, then I realized that it's kind of different.

Since it is about non-mutual ownership.

RegDwighт

Also related

6

Q: "Your and my [something]" vs "Yours and my..."

Prompted by comments against this question, I'd like some help figuring out why some people (myself included) prefer yours over the apparently more logical/grammatically consistent your in this kind of sentence... Yours and my native languages have co-existed for hundreds of years. Google B...

possessive personal-pronouns

Matt Эллен

narwhales

Johan Larsson

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 IT-departments tend to run a Soviet-style operation :)

RegDwighт

@MattЭллен good edit.

KitFox

19:40

gasp [email protected] just sent me an email that "[My] Bank of America account is limited"!

RegDwighт

So much for your freedoms.

KitFox

I need to click on the login link right away. Funny though that it refers to http://webindex.dk/images/webindex/.bb1/something.php

pulls teeth

And not to the BofA site.

Also, I don't have a BofA account.

> The URL-encoded form data is not valid.

God damn it! kicks codez

Matt Эллен

@RegDwighт thanks :D

KitFox

@MattЭллен There's only one I don't recognize. feels flustered

tchrist

@Reg Your call on this, but I’m not feeling warmish:

@tchrist Ok, I changed the title and clarified the question. Can I somehow revert the duplicate flag? — jkej 6 mins ago

Matt Эллен

19:45

@KitFox I don't recognise the one with the snake and the one between Data and Ziggy

tchrist

It’s kind of a different question now. Maybe it always was. dunno.

KitFox

@MattЭллен Oh, Ziggy.

That's Rainbow Bright.

What one with the snake? looks again

Oh, that's Britney.

Matt Эллен

oh! britney. I see

KitFox

►

Not that I would know of course.

Matt Эллен

of course

RegDwighт

19:52

> Unfortunately, this SME-music-content is not available in Germany because GEMA has not granted the respective music publishing rights.

At least they improved the message somewhat.

KitFox

And you should thank your lucky stars for that.

RegDwighт

Unfortunately, this sentence-spelling is only available in German but-not in-English.

Seriously, WTF. They no have English-spellers in Mountain-View?

Cerberus

@KitFox So it's basically porn.

RegDwighт

I'm at 18.375 views per support. Wood! knocks on woot

Cerberus

A barely-covered girl moaning and talking with a porn voice.

Little to no actual music.

KitFox

19:55

Well, a dubbed porn voice.

Cerberus

Like all porn.

RegDwighт

Britney Spears has no voice, much less porn.

@Cerberus gay porn perhaps. Not good porn.

Cerberus

I didn't say it was good porn.

KitFox

Let's not start that again.

Cerberus

@RegDwighт You should watch more bad straight porn.

RegDwighт

19:56

I couldn't!

I am watching seven as we speak.

Cerberus

Thanks to GEMA you can't, no.

RegDwighт

Thanks to GEMA I can, yes.

In fact all German porn starts with the message "GEMA-free music".

As soon as you see that message, you know aha, that's German porn right ahead.

KitFox

I can hear the project lead coming this way. He's going to poke his head in to make sure I saw that he send me an email about the reports crashing.

I'm going to kill him.

Cerberus

@RegDwighт Seriously??

RegDwighт

@KitFox Tell him that you're busy reading up on bad straight porn.

KitFox

19:59

Headphones. Great idea.

RegDwighт

That'll spare his life but have the same overall effect.

@Cerberus why of course.

Cerberus

GEMA free meaning that licensing costs have been paid?

RegDwighт

No, meaning that it's one guy banging at the electric piano.

Hitting a couple notes.

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