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12:00 AM
so they make thier own choice and systematically they are all equal
 
What I'm seeing is someone who wants to play RPGs, but doesn't want to play an RPG where players are punished for changing characters.
 
I know D&D is not good in systematic balance
 
@FallenAngel Very true, but in this case you can fix it.
 
In previos games, There is no penalty for that
h changes 7 or 8 characters and ther eis no penalty
 
> the party have higher reputation and better equipment while this player have fewer.
That's a penalty.
 
12:02 AM
yes but this is a long campaing and all quests are connected.
 
I don't know about the reputation system you're using, but in D&D equipment is a crucial part of the power balance.
 
He even try to take a knight with high reputation
 
@FallenAngel Really? You can't think of any way to creatively help a new character have an established place in the world?
There are at least three related questions on SE with good answers.
 
Situation is like that: The knight is the oldest character, and many quests are given oto him.
Andand the other players take quests
 
That sounds... unnecessarily structured and rigid. The new guy doesn't have friends who want his newfound powerful buddies to help them out?
 
12:05 AM
but he complains he did not get any quests. So I put one of his characeter at the center of the next quest
his character was new, and the leader of the quest
It was all right, untill he got bored of that character and start telling knights are too strong
 
Okay, so does he really value game balance, or is that a proxy for some other dissatisfaction?
 
then in the middle of the quest, he states that he do not want to playwith that character and he wants a knight
because, high level knights are strong and I do not allow my players to start from high ranks
old player reach higer ranks and he saw it and states that he wants a knigt
but he could not role play it
Problem is
he just see characters as statistics written in the book
do not care about the rp part but we did alot
and game-inbalance just starts in here
 
I have had players that don't like rp, only combat, and whose characters are only numbers to them
 
In his opinion, playing a saint or a lich is simple. one is good and the other is bad and they are powerful
 
what I usually do is to force rp to be able to reach combat
in the end, they have the fight (reward) , but they must earn it
with time
 
12:10 AM
I tried it it the last session again.
 
the characters end having their personality
but my players are usually more cooperative that this guy
even the more powerplayer
 
So the game you're playing attaches mechanical weight to the duration and quality of a character's existence in the game, rather than to the player's?
 
There was a long part for speech so he keep playing with his phone and finally states that we do nothing but during all these time
Yes, it is like, a good guy who makes a lot of donation got known in time
but that is not a good example
i guess
 
So, I'm guessing that this player thinks that the player's time at the table should be considered more when determining his PC's power.
 
He like rolling dices and killing opponents. Long speech and specch based rp's bored him a lot
but tho group do not want to keep hack and slash long. They want to play their characters, as a character, notlike numerical values on a paper
 
12:16 AM
you need to reach a compromise
 
They want to interact eith npc's and solve solve some puzzles and speak with npcs to solve porblems.
 
and that all of you understand that you are doing this compromise
 
In fact he is a good guy and a good friend
 
a bit of rp and a bit of hack and slash
 
I am trying to find what can I do
 
12:17 AM
if he is, he must understand that everyone needs to have fun
 
I've run groups that loved RP and could go for months without rolling combat.
I've also run groups that would slaughter each other if I didn't give them at least one fight per session.
 
The same is true for us
 
Adapting to your group is part of being a good GM, and you're working hard to do that.
 
and that if he doesn't kill NPCs, other players will let thim shine when combat comes
 
Ther eis a period he is not in the city for about 8 months.
and the total number of combats during these time is 4-5
and everybody loves that time
 
12:19 AM
But it's a lot easier if you engage the players in helping with this; it's the GM's responsibility to try to make it happen, not to do it all by himself.
 
@BESW problem is one player have a style, and the others have the opposite
it's hard
 
And It is ok if we have some combat in each game
 
@Flamma I hear ya. It can be very challenging, and sometimes it's insurmountable... but not nearly so often as some people seem to think.
 
and I try to do this
 
First thing you need to do is to get everyone's expectations and desires to be explicit, rather than implicit.
 
12:20 AM
I knoe it is so complicated
 
It sounds like you've done a good job reading motivations into table behavior, but you might try the Same Page Tool to get it from them directly.
 
second thing should be then, having them renounce part of their expectation and reach a compromise
 
Ok thank you very much
 
third, everyone must understand that they have to work to make it work
 
You might find No Such Thing as D&D to be a helpful read for yourself, to get some context for multiple expectations.
And I've found that Making the Tough Decisions is a great thing to have my players read.
 
12:23 AM
Ok i will check them and ask adain in here if I have further questions.
 
Optimization of an Archer type Character is still Eluding me.
 
I hope it helps! I've had similar situations, and they can be wrenching.
 
Thank you for your help. I must go now. It was quite late in my time zone and I have a job to go :D
 
the same for me
 
@FallenAngel Take care.
 
12:24 AM
sweet dreams everyone
 
@BESW eh what now?
 
Thank you @BESW
thank everyone
 
@FallenAngel Our pleasure!
 
No Archer as the ranged attack type character.
a Person who uses a bow is commonly called an Archer.
 
Yes, I'm giving you a hard time.
 
12:26 AM
I can make a Ranger whom can specialise in Dragon Hunting but he in the end is way too specialised.
Against Dragons he can Deal quite some damage. against everything else he deals like 1d10 + 3 per arrow.
although I did Dip a level in beastmaster to boost the pet. so I wonder if I changed that out if it would help.
although that first level of beastmaster + Natural Bond does gain some significant benefit to the companion.
 
Is 3.0 allowed?
 
Unknown. this is just a concept character. a build test.
So for the sake of expedience lets say yes.
 
lol.
Okay, this is totally inappropriate if 3.5 material trumps 3.0 material, buuuuuut.
 
and then for the sake of redundance lets say no later.
 
Sword & Fist has a prestige class called "Order of the Bow Initiate."
It grants ranged sneak attack, and some cool other stuff, but what we're looking at is the level 6 free feat: Zen Archery.
It's a lovely feat, but replacing one modifier with another isn't broken.
What's broken is the text on the level 6 feature which grants the feat:
> If the character already has this feat, then the Wisdom modifier stacks with the Dexterity modifier for ranged attacks.
Now you're a sneak-attacking double-mod-damage-stacking ranger.
 
12:39 AM
ah. im looking at the 3.5 version.
 
@Novian As I said, this is entirely inappropriate and verboten if 3.5 trumps 3.0.
 
its version of sneak attack is awsome. 1d8 dice doesnt need flanking. stacks with SA dice.

Ill find the 3.0 version I suppose.
 
Your ranged attacks don't provoke AoOs, you get a free attack 1/round against someone who provokes on AoO from one of your friends...
 
.....
ooooh.
 
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12:41 AM
And if you're really really dirty, you can pretend that "the Wisdom modifier stacks with the Dexterity modifier for ranged attacks" means it stacks for attack rolls as well as damage.
 
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Still even the 3.5 version isnt terrible.
6th level is a little meh though.
 
Mm.
@C.Ross Interesting. Sadly I probably won't be able to participate much, but interesting.
 
hmm If I take my Dragonhunter build and retool it for Order of the Bow I could probably make a non Dragon specialist archer.
 
Bow Initiate isn't half-bad, no.
I talked my GM into letting me use the 3.0 version on my evil catfolk archer.
 
12:48 AM
.....
 
Combined with Manyshot/Rapidshot/Shot on the Run, my DPS became legendary.
 
you devious cheeky little Goblin.
 
Hey, it was an evil campaign.
I just got a head start.
 
and my quote still stands.
not as insult. but as Fact.
 
Yes. That D&D group encouraged it.
It's the group that ignored racial HD as a modifier to effective level, and invented an MP system I managed to break before I ever got to the table.
@TRiG Hi!
 
12:52 AM
@BESW I'm not here. This is a figment of your imagination.
I didn't come into the office on a holiday to use the computer because my own at home isn't working. And I certainly didn't hang around till after midnight!
 
@TRiG Like the color yellow, you are a mystical experience shared by everybody?
 
Never happened. Of course not.
@BESW I get around ...
 
....I can see other peoples imagination figments, I AM A PSION.
 
... but I wouldn't say I was shared by quite everybody.
Yet.
 
[Not sure I would've tried that reference on someone who didn't have eng.se as their primary.]
@PaulMarshall Hey.
 
12:55 AM
@BESW I'm afraid it's a reference I didn't get (possibly because it's after midnight).
(I do know about superintelligent shades of the colour blue.)
 
> "The colours red, blue and green are real. The colour yellow is a mystical experience shared by everybody--demolish."
(Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead)
 
@BESW - Umm...I dunno what'choo smokin' on Order of the Bow Initiate
 
@BESW Ah. One of the many classics I've not yet read. Or watched, in that case.
 
But there literally is not an archery PrC in 3.5 that doesn't make you /worse/ at archery
 
@TRiG I've seen the film and read the play; both are superb in their own way, but I dearly wish to see the play performed.
@Lord_Gareth Did I say 3.5?
 
12:57 AM
@BESW Hey back. I'm trying to pretend that I'm working; why on earth did I come here
?
 
When you mentioned Order of the Bow Initiate that sorta implies
Unless it bounced to 4e when I wasn't looking
 
@PaulMarshall You failed your own Bluff vs Insight check?
@Lord_Gareth 3.0 Zen Archery cheese.
 
Doesn't help OotB. Their problem is that firing just one shot is terrible
and that's what they do
 
Ummmm. I'm not seeing that.
 
@BESW I've seen some good plays. Notably Waiting for Godot, by some top-class actors in a local theatre. (Actors from The Abbey were touring the country, playing in little local theatres up and down Ireland.)
 
12:59 AM
I think you may be getting the 3.5 and 3.0 PrC confused.
 
I might be.
 
@BESW I can think of no other explanation, unless I failed a Deceit vs Rapport check.
 
@Lord_Gareth The 3.0 Sword and Fist version is kinda silly.
@TRiG ooh, cool.
My island has an enthusiastic but quirky and underfunded college theatre.
It does lead to some brilliant forced color/genderblind casting though.
 
@BESW I find myself in the strange position of wanting to accept an answer that doesn't actually help me, simply because it answers the question I asked more completely, but it doesn't actually address my problem
Which is of course what I get for asking a general question of a specific problem
 
@Lord_Gareth Durp.
 
1:01 AM
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@BESW That could be interesting. I once (in school) saw a production of The Importance of Being Earnest with three actors. When Lane showed Lady Bracknell and Gwendolin into Algernon's room, it was one actress with a hat on each hand playing all three characters. And it worked!
 
@KRyan's is the most helpful to me, but @JeorMattan's is actually the most comprehensive.
 
@Lord_Gareth Accept one and bounty the other?
 
@TRiG I recently saw a minimal-prop production of The Tempest in which about 2/3 of the cast were female (including Miranda and Ferdinand).
 
@BESW my friend's production of the Macbeth had females for most of the nobles
Macduff, for one
 
1:05 AM
@BESW The Tempest. Last summer there was a free production in the Iveagh Gardens in Dublin. The guy playing Ariel was wearing white jeans and a lot of blue paint, and I think I fell in love with him.
 
@TRiG Heh, I like painted Ariels.
 
the only men were Macbeth himself, Banquo and his son, and maybe a couple of other minor roles
 
@KRyan How much of a difference did it make to the feel of the play?
(So much of Shakespeare is men dressed as women dressed as men anyway. Well, not the tragedies.)
 
@TRiG minimal that I could tell (it's actually the first time I've seen it)
 
We also had a production of August Wilson's Fences last year, with all Pacific Islanders and the occasional Caucasian.
 
1:08 AM
...I feel so uncultured now.
 
@Lord_Gareth ...so hard not to make a joke about Kansas here
 
[Only seen Everything I Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarden and The Wizard of Oz, both thrown by his high school in MI]
 
@BESW I don't know that, but Wikipedia tells me it's about race relations and the African-American experience. How much of that maps neatly to Guam?
 
> "He 'distilled' the three or four funniest gimmicks of his time, and then he milked them into sixteen plays."
 
BRB
 
1:09 AM
@TRiG Only in the most general "race relations are a prominent historical and current Thing here too" ways.
 
@BESW They are here too, of course, with the added complication that both "races" look exactly the same. Whether that makes things worse or better is an open question.
 
@Lord_Gareth, @KRyan Just watch The Reduced Shakespeare Company's Complete Works of William Shakespeare (Abridged) and you'll know most of what you might ever need to about the Bard.
 
@TRiG if not intruding, where is here?
 
@BESW You'll also split your sides open. I hear the Reduced Shakespeare Company on BBC Radio 4 sometimes, and they're hillarious.
 
1:11 AM
@BESW I have seen a fair few of Shakespeare's plays, just had not seen Macbeth before
@BESW aaaaahhhh, yeaah. That'd do it
 
@BESW Ireland, aye. English parents, though.
 
mm
my family's Irish, but we've been in America so long that I couldn't even guess whereabouts
 
@TRiG Heh. We're astonishingly complex given our tiny area; Guam's been occupied and colonized repeatedly for hundreds of years, and is now the only US territory in the area... which brings a lot of nearby islanders here for work and education.
 
multiple places about, for that matter, since I apparently come from a long line of men who married girls fresh off the boat from Eire
 
So there's Western/Pacific/Eastern tensions, and inter-island tensions.
 
1:13 AM
@KRyan I haven't either, actually. I'm fairly familiar with it, though, through general cultural osmosis. And I picked up some of it when my brother was studying it. (I did King Lear.)
@BESW Right. An interesting history is a sign of a painful past, I suppose.
 
we did Romeo and Juliet (of course), Henry V, Julius Caesar, Merchant of Venice, and I've seen Hamlet, Macbeth, Much Ado About Nothing, and Winter's Tale
 
I've seen a couple productions/films of Macbeth, and did a rank amateur performance of one scene (as Macbeth) for a theatre friend's directing class.
 
I think that's it?
 
I'm half English, quarter Polish, and quarter Greek Cypriot.
 
@TRiG interesting. my girlfriend lives in a very Polish neighborhood, so I know quite a few
 
1:15 AM
@TRiG Yes, rather.
 
@KRyan I studied The Merchant of Venice and King Lear in school. And I've seen a fair few of the comedies (mostly outdoors, at a nearby park which does productions every summer).
 
@TRiG [envy]
Most of the live productions I've seen have been indoors and either uninspired or ...too inspired.
 
@TRiG ...this is an accurate description of how I have seen many of those plays, but in my case it's Central Park and they frequently get Broadway and Hollywood actors for the roles
 
Once saw a Hamlet that looked like they'd ripped off most of the Gibson film, but set it in a disco-themed spaceship.
 
did not get to see Al Pacino in Merchant of Venice, because those tickets were impossible to get
@BESW whoa
 
1:17 AM
@BESW Well, the one last summer (The Tempest) was even better: it was free. Also, it was easier to get to (further away, but public transport links to Dublin are better than to Belvedere).
 
It was like a surreal fusion of Shakespeare and early Doctor Who.
(And if you're going to rip off a Hamlet film, why the Gibson? [flails])
I have a minor hobby of watching all the Hamlets I can get my hands on.
 
@BESW I seem to recall you having watched quite a few productions of a number of Shakespeare's plays
 
I seem to be one of the only people in the world who thinks the Stewart/Tennant was... not good.
 
What I came into the office for was to find tickets to Reims for the summer, but the SNCF site is having trouble with its booking form, so I wasted time mucking about instead. And now I'll hie me home to bed. Bye all.
 
bye!
 
1:20 AM
@KRyan Yes, but Hamlet is a pet favorite, so I go out of my way for that one.
@TRiG ttfn
Of course, I'm also one of the only guys in the world who liked R + J.
 
@BESW heh, ever seen one where a raccoon walks across stage during the graveyard scene?
 
@KRyan If I have, that's not how I remember it. Sounds like something the Olivier might have done?
 
@BESW eh, I know a lot of girls who don't like it either. And besides, for a "love story" it's got way more combat and bloodshed than it does love scenes
@BESW I don't believe it was intentional, just a silly anecdote of what happened when I saw it
 
@KRyan Well, it's not a love story. That's cultural BS.
 
@BESW right
 
1:22 AM
I despise Romeo and Juliet. Its author hated it too
 
But I mean specifically I liked the diCaprio film R + J.
 
@BESW @Lord_Gareth have you seen John Green's Crash Course: Literature videos on it
 
@Lord_Gareth I'm not sure how much intent we can ascribe to a man whose very authorship of the plays is questionable, but yeah. It's not one of his best plays and it's been culturally mangled to the point that most productions of it miss the point entirely.
 
@KRyan - No, I haven't. I did read some interesting historical sources on it. While all the girls in my high school class were crying over R&J killing themselves I looked at the teacher and said, "So this is a play about how teenagers are stupid, right?"
 
@Lord_Gareth Eeeyup.
 
1:24 AM
it's also a lot about politics and some other stuff
much of which was about English politics which is of course why is set in very much not-England
 
@BESW - The sources I read (eight years ago now, so don't ask for titles >.<) had some compelling arguments suggesting that R&J was written for a quick buck and its popularity offended the Shakespeare quite a bit
 
@KRyan Of course. No regimes were harmed in the making of this satire.
 
Much in the same way The Nutcracker's composer (I can never spell his name) hated it.
 
For reference, I like this discussion of the play
(plus I'd like to get @BESW's opinion of its accuracy)
 
Incidentally @KRyan
Where can I find water and fish-related spells?
I need them for this low-HP wizard
He floods battlefields and then fills them with fish
 
1:28 AM
@Lord_Gareth Spell Compendium
Stormwrack
 
Danke
 
Hurp, he just said Shakespeare would've been familiar with Latin criticisms of the Poetics.
...does this guy have an Authorship video?
 
@BESW authorship video?
 
Whether Shakespeare wrote all or any of the plays attributed to him; if not, who did? if so, how to reconcile the evidences against him?
 
@BESW no, he only has two videos on Romeo and Juliet and that's it on Shakespeare
it is supposed to be Crash Course
 
1:35 AM
a +2 enhancement bonus on a suit of armor increases the Armor bonus by 2 but does it affect ACP?
 
@Novian - No
 
ah.
good to know.
 
ACP is affected only by the Masterwork property, which all magical armors have, and any special materials or enhancements that specifically mention it.
 
+2 Mithral Brestplate then should have -1 ACP then.
 
IIRC yes
 
1:40 AM
7 armor 5 max dex. ASF of 15. -1 ACP not too bad for 8200gp.
 
@BESW ?
 
Relephant to the idea of that obstacles are necessary for dramatic love.
 
@BESW aha
 
Okay, the instant you say that any of Shakespeare's work is consciously and deliberately anti-patriarchy, you lose a lot of my respect.
This guy is bringing a lot of modern context to the table and instead of saying "Isn't it interesting that we can read these modern ideas into Shakespeare's work?" he's trying to cram them into Shakespeare's mouth.
 
1:51 AM
@BESW I'm... not certain that he is, in that some of them, at the very least, I feel like he's not attempting to claim were Shakespeare's intent or ideas
though I also have much less background knowledge on the subject
 
Not always, but very clearly he's often reading modern intent into the lines rather than bringing modern perspectives to the lines.
 
@BESW well, he's also got a video that has one of those "open letters" to authorial intent in which he basically says he doesn't really care much about authorial intent
he does try to give some historical basis for some of the things he's talking about, but eh
 
He runs into the problem all of this genre does, of trying to say too much too fast and losing context and complexity in the process.
If he didn't try to range so far afield he might be able to do justice to the topics he did choose to cover.
Authorial intent is important, if only to the extent that you have to be aware enough of it to make a choice about it.
When he runs around declaring that Shakespeare certainly read criticisms of the Poetics, and that Romeo and Juliet is anti-patriarchy, he'd durn well better care about authorial intent.
 
mm
I really do not have anything like the background necessary to really have a part in this conversation
 
(One of the major arguments about who Shakespeare actually was is founded around the lack of evidence that the man we think wrote the plays had access to the level of education shown in them.)
 
2:02 AM
I think his take on Romeo and Juliet was a lot more interesting than my own
which was basically "teenagers are stupid and also this play is kinda stupid."
 
@KRyan I agree with this analysis.
There are interesting things about the play, intellectually and culturally, but the play itself... meh.
If I want a tragedy about people who think their happiness trumps logic, reason, society, and morality, I'll read Macbeth.
I think one reason I like R+J is that diCaprio does such a good job of being a horny, spoiled, shortsighted teen.
 
diCaprio is a phenomenal actor
 
Indeed, though he's frequently miscast and that does him no favors.
The Great Gatsby looks like a perfect storm of Bad Casting.
 
heh
I don't know about "frequently"
I have seen very few films with him that were bad
though, I suppose, I've only seen him in a few films, period
 
Any time he's cast based on his sex appeal, basically.
 
2:16 AM
I'm thinking mostly of The Aviator and Inception
 
He did great as far back as Gilbert Grape (I can't stand that film, but the acting was superb). But the Man in the Iron Mask was pretty awful because he was cast for cute (ditto Titanic).
When he's cast as an actor he does well. When he's cast as a hunk of manflesh, it's rarely good.
 
mm
 
2:45 AM
@KRyan In D&D 3.5, is it possible to designate an invalid target for a spell?
 
@BESW uhh... in what sense? it is certainly possible for a target to be invalid. Do you mean is it possible to choose someone that isn't a legal target (because you didn't know they were illegal, or they take some action to make it illegal)? yes, it is
the spell just does nothing in that case
 
Hrm.
 
Also, all of you, go bloody contribute suggestions for the RPG birthday... thingo... on meta.
 
I got nothin'.
How about an annual Don't Mention Monks Month?
 
@BESW I suggest an annual Don't mention Monks, Vow of Poverty, or physics... year.
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2:56 AM
@BrianBallsun-Stanton strongly in favor
 
Compliment Another Playstyle Month?
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also, typo in poverty, might want to fix since you're now enshrined on the right
 
@BESW Oh, you're evil.
Actually...
Write that up
"The best person who can produce an answer from a different school of game-play than they normally answer in"
 
the only contest I'd had in mind isn't appropriate for an anniversary thing
@BrianBallsun-Stanton very hard to define schools of game-play
seems likely to cause serious strife
 
@KRyan I've got a paper :)
 
2:58 AM
Yeeeah.
Good luck getting us to read it.
 
@BrianBallsun-Stanton right, which is great if we all take it as given
 
@BESW Deetails.
@KRyan Yep :)
 
but I imagine that plenty won't
 
@BrianBallsun-Stanton I have no idea how to describe an implementation even if it wasn't bound to end in tears.
 
@BESW mmm, fairynuff
 
3:02 AM
I mean, I'd love it.
 
uggggh
trying to develop on windows
::STABSTABSTABSTAB:: Give me my linux back!
::cough::
::reboot::
 
Eh, I'll drop the idea in and say I can't see any way to make it work but it'd be cool?
 
Ahah, I think I may have a slightly broader concept that'll be less sparky.
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4:51 AM
@BrianBallsun-Stanton So @KRyan has been wanting to do that homebrew contest for awhile. There's precedent for it on another .stackexchange, but no one seems to know if it's permissable or not. How bad would it be if he or I just /did/ it and saw how it went?
 
@Lord_Gareth uh. I have no idea what you're talking about, mate.
 
Oh!
Okay, lemme lay the concept out
The .stackexchange system - of a question and answers with upvotes - makes it ideal for hosting contests whose winners can be determined democratically. For some time @KRyan has wanted to host a homebrew contest of some kind or another. Knowing him I'd say 3.X or Legend, with the "winner" being the submission with the most upvotes after the voting period is done. The idea is that the host would post as the questioner, and the submissions would be answers.
Art.stackexchange does something similar for original artwork
 
What kind of homebrew? Build a Better Monk? Design a 3.PF alignment system that everyone understands?
 
Heh. I don't know, I haven't inquired. The monthly Prestige Class and Base Class contests are popular on Giant in the Playground
And since the winner is voted upon you don't have to set a criteria for selecting a winner; the audience speaks forth and glory is crowned
 
I call dibs on an alignment-based morality cardgame using Tarot.
You draw three cards: the first is who your PC is, the second is what they did, and the third is the alignment you have to justify their actions as.
 
4:59 AM
@BESW Are you just havin' fun or do you not like the idea of a contest hosted here?
 
@Lord_Gareth I think it's like dungeon tiles: a great idea that won't be able to be implemented in a satisfactory way.
 

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