The Nineteenth Byte

@Mayube I've implemented all of the stack manipulation and arithmetic commands, now I'm moving on to the I/O commands now since I'm not yet sure how I'm going to format the heap. Once I have all the commands implemented, I'll figure out how I'm doing the parsing.

hyper-neutrino

and interleave doesn't actually flatten the array, it is more of a zip/transform

Unrelated String

also note that ṭ2/F is another jelly 4-byter

tried J^1ị then remembered 1-indexing

hyper-neutrino

yep :c

Mayube

5:48 PM

@AaroneousMiller that is indeed hilarious

Unrelated String

lmao

Fmbalbuena

@AaroneousMiller You have 2 days

to get 50 rep

Aaroneous Miller

@Fmbalbuena hold my ~~beer~~ age-appropriate beverage

Fmbalbuena

holds

Redwolf Programs

Has nobody posted the obvious JS solution?

(Or the one that's obvious with the tricks mentioned here)

I don't want to since i^1 isn't my idea

Mayube

5:51 PM

I was just about to say I'm surprised we don't have a JS answer yet

Redwolf Programs

Do you want to post it?

Mayube

I was gunna let somebody else post it given I posted the C# one and they're the exact same answer

Redwolf Programs

Should I just post it then?

Mayube

Sure

Redwolf Programs

Wait...TIO's unblocked!!!!!!!!!

Mayube

5:53 PM

:O

Fmbalbuena

@Mayube test

Redwolf Programs

I can't believe they unblocked TIO, this is amazing

pxeger

is ATO blocked for you?

Mayube

@Fmbalbuena looks like it works now, though given how fast it's running it's for sure caching the output, so idk if it's actually running at all

Redwolf Programs

@pxeger Yes

Mayube

5:56 PM

@RedwolfPrograms the JS in the post isn't the same as the JS in TIO, and I'm pretty sure the JS in the post won't work

Redwolf Programs

Oops copied the wrong thing

Fixed

Mayube

@RedwolfPrograms also it was @m90 who suggested [i^1], not pgexer :P

Redwolf Programs

What do you mean, it's always said m90 there 👀

Mayube

suuuure :P

Redwolf Programs

f=x=>[x.splice(0,2).reverse(),...f(x)] is a really stupid recursive solution :p

Wait it also never finishes

Unrelated String

6:03 PM

lol

Fmbalbuena

@AaroneousMiller Hey are you writting whitespace interpreter.

Redwolf Programs

That makes it a really stupid recursive solution :p

hyper-neutrino

nice

Mayube

answers are allowed to emit warnings, right/

Fmbalbuena

@hyper-neutrino What happened

hyper-neutrino

6:04 PM

@Fmbalbuena redwolf's infinite recursion

Redwolf Programs

f=x=>0 in x?[x[1],x[0],...f(x.slice(2))]:[]

[] should be falsy >:|

Aaroneous Miller

@Fmbalbuena yep, here's a sample so far

Redwolf Programs

I like using "contains a truthy item" as the truthiness condition for arrays

Fmbalbuena

@AaroneousMiller do you make control flow

Redwolf Programs

@RedwolfPrograms Wouldn't work for JS/Python though

Aaroneous Miller

6:07 PM

@Fmbalbuena I haven't gotten that far yet, but I have a couple ideas of how I'm going to implement it

hyper-neutrino

yes but recursion

@RedwolfPrograms a=[];a+=[a] is a truthy or not :P

Aaroneous Miller

[1,2,3,4,5,6] -> [3,4,5,6] -> [5,6] -> [] -> stop execution because [] is falsy

^ that's the intention

hyper-neutrino

except js is not a sane language and therefore this doesn't work :p

Redwolf Programs

@hyper-neutrino Yeah that's why I mentioned it not working in JS lol

@hyper-neutrino You can't += arrays, just do a[0] = a or a.push(a)

hyper-neutrino

i meant python

Aaroneous Miller

6:10 PM

just do what I do when you don't like how a language works: reimplement it from scratch to make it the way you want it /s

Redwolf Programs

Wait what did you mean by JS is not sane then

hyper-neutrino

[] being truthy lol

Unrelated String

^

hyper-neutrino

@AaroneousMiller ngl that's the motivation behind proton

Aaroneous Miller

lol

hyper-neutrino

6:11 PM

it was supposed to be python but with the features i wanted it to have

instead it's python but without the features i needed it to have

5

Mayube

lmao. 32 bytes in C#, 26 bytes in JS.... 59 bytes in Rust

Redwolf Programs

> You went outside with a gas mask well haha dumbass it melted onto your face.

I like worldbuilding sometimes

Mayube

flashbacks to Dr. Who

Redwolf Programs

(source)

hyper-neutrino

is that meant to be a link

Redwolf Programs

6:18 PM

>:|

(source)

Mayube

ok here's a question. I just posted this Rust answer, however technically this answer only works in my test suite, because my test suite calls the function with let output: Vec<i32> = swaps(&input); (swaps() being the function). Explicitly specifying the type of output allows Rust to infer the return type of the closure, but without that explicit type it errors. Should I be required to include an explicit return type?

note that specifying the return type adds 10 bytes ->Vec<i32> and requires that i wrap the function itself in braces for an additional 2 bytes

pxeger

6:36 PM

@Mayube no, your answer is fine

emanresu A

6:54 PM

@lyxal Dya think it's meant to work on YAML?

Mayube

@pxeger Good to know. Shame Rust can't infer the argument type

emanresu A

@RedwolfPrograms Lucky you! Maybe some of the classes needed to do Python on chromebooks or something :P

Sandbox Posts

8:00 PM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Print a program to print yourself and cause a huge brainf*** The programming language Brainf*** is very famous: if you're here you might have heard of it (though for today I'm not saying its name uncensored, because I haven't seen anyone else doing that gimmick). Nevertheless here's a link to its...

Mayube

@RedwolfPrograms I like it when Worldbuilding reminds us of how fragile the world really is

oh I'm an idiot who didn't actually click your source link. I jsut saw your quote further down lmao

caird coinheringaahing

> You went outside with a gas mask well haha dumbass it melted onto your face.

New COVID conspiracy just dropped

Mayube

no no, COVID is Zone 6

or more accurately Zone 6 is:

> basically COVID-19 but ten times worse

Also the user who wrote that incredible answer has the "Authoritarian" icon from Stellaris as their profile pic

Mayube

8:46 PM

oof, Rockstar has no modulo and no bitwise operators

hi all

o/

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Alienese refers to two "languages" in the show Futurama. In actuality, they are two ciphers of English text with a pictographic alphabet. The first is a simple substitution cipher, but the second is slightly more complex. The second is a type of autokey cipher that follows these steps: Take a wo...

Anush

@Mayube I can't interpret o/ what is it?

caird coinheringaahing

It's a wave

Anush

8:52 PM

ah! o/ too :)

left handed wave!

Mayube

Actually it's Alienese (the third type) for "hello there"

(I'm joking, it's a wave)

caird coinheringaahing

@Mayube General Kenobi

Mayube

@cairdcoinheringaahing in Alienese type 3 that's "\o"

Anush

hmm.. I did check futurama.fandom.com/wiki/… :)

but why left handed?

or can I do \o ?

Mayube

you can do either

Anush

8:54 PM

but not \o/ ?

Mayube

if you're really excited to see somebody you can do \o/

Anush

:) snap

do people still say snap?

Mayube

some people do

Anush does, for example

Anush

who the hell is he?

or she?

Mayube

No clue, some random person online

caird coinheringaahing

9:02 PM

I see Leaky's back to FGITWing again :P

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing I was gonna post my 20 byte answer, but that might have been better called "fastest tennis ball lob in the west"

Mayube

Fastest Potato cannon in the west? :P

Leaky Nun

9:18 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing are you sure your 11 byte answer returns 16 for NANNANNAN?

caird coinheringaahing

Yes

pxeger

Jelly doesn't have a built-in for backwards alphabet, damn

pxeger

9:41 PM

Wow, SE is so bad, it's not even sure when this comment was posted!

Mayube

:|

Aaroneous Miller

9:59 PM

I've implemented Stack Manipulation, Arithmetic, Heap Access, and I/O commands. All that's left is Control Flow commands, and then the actual compilation and execution. The compilation will probably be just going through the program and placing the labels, and the execution should be fairly simple, but I may have to have a pretty low recursion limit for the subroutines (by pretty low I mean a depth of around 9-ish because reasons). Hopefully I can get it all done in time.

caird coinheringaahing

10:15 PM

@pxeger Plus, it can't even spell "Maybe" correctly smh my head

@NewPosts Status

@RedwolfPrograms Looks like something's wrong with NP

Redwolf Programs

I'll check

Fixed

caird coinheringaahing

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Q: List supereven numbers

A supereven (self-coined term) number is a number that has no odd prime factors and none of the digits have any odd prime factors. For example, the first 11 are 0, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 64, 128, 1024, 2048, and 262144. No decimals. As always, go for least number of bytes; the program has to be able to ...

code-golf

Post NP missed ^

Redwolf Programs

This is the third time the RAID's randomly decided my hard drive is on a foreign configuration

So it tries to boot from my backup drive

Which...isn't bootable :p

lyxal

@emanresuA yes

It works well on yaml

caird coinheringaahing

@cairdcoinheringaahing Not sure if I can prove it, but I think there are only 8 supereven numbers: [0, 1, 2, 4, 8, 128, 1024, 2048]

Essentially, it's looking for powers of 2 whose digits are one-digit powers of 2, and I don't think one exists past 2048

The latest SO blog post: Does ES6 make JavaScript frameworks obsolete?

Redwolf Programs

10:43 PM

ES6 was 6 years ago, why are people talking about it like it's this crazy new thing lol

caird coinheringaahing

I think that blog post must have been posted by mistake:

> ES6—also called ECMAScript2015—is the latest implementation of JavaScript.

Redwolf Programs

wat

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing can confirm up to 23104

Redwolf Programs

Sorry for the low quality YT comments meme but

ES2021: Am I a joke to you?

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal I've confirmed up to 2^100, but TIO's too slow to go much further

lyxal

10:47 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Vyxal, 14 bytes: ∞'₍Kfƛ₌æ∷*†A;Π

Redwolf Programs

I've confirmed up to 2**10000

Bubbler

Obligatory OEIS

> If a(7) exists it is greater than 2^1000000.

caird coinheringaahing

Jelly, 9 bytes ;DÆf2ḍȦµ#

Bubbler

Lol, even the sequence's title is wrong:

> Powers of 2 with each digit a power of 2 (only digits 0,1,2,4,8 are used).

Man, 0 is not a power of 2

Redwolf Programs

I wonder if OP means even digits, not ones without odd factors

DLosc

10:49 PM

2 to the negative infinity?

Redwolf Programs

By that logic 3 is a power of two, because it's 2 to the power of log_2(3) :p

Bubbler

@RedwolfPrograms But then there is 1

Redwolf Programs

Hmm, true

DLosc

@RedwolfPrograms I mean... I guess infinity is not an integer, so I can't say "integer powers" :P

Non-irrational powers?

Redwolf Programs

The squareroot of two is a rational power of two

DLosc

10:52 PM

But it's not a possible digit, because it's not an integer in [0, 9]

Redwolf Programs

Hmm. Fine.

lyxal

anything can be a digit if you're bold enough

DLosc

It's interesting how even the purest, most elegant field like mathematics has weird corner cases.

caird coinheringaahing

It's all zero's fault anyway

Redwolf Programs

I love how the comments under the blog post are all about how old ES6 is

PyGamer0

10:54 PM

@RedwolfPrograms whats RAID?

Redwolf Programs

Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks

caird coinheringaahing

Shadow Legends

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Redwolf Programs

It's what fancy servers use to manage their hard drives

DLosc

Insecticide

PyGamer0

@cairdcoinheringaahing lol

caird coinheringaahing

10:55 PM

Proper maths only cares about positive integers anyway. None of that fancy "negatives" or "irrationals" or whatever

Redwolf Programs

You could use a RAID controller to, for example, copy everything written to one hard drive to another. It's a backup system, basically. I don't actually use RAID, but the controller is still there.

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing hmm yes our sponsor for this ~~video~~ page of transcript

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DLosc

@cairdcoinheringaahing Subtraction is only an illusion, after all

Neil

ah, we must have hit some sort of threshold for questions tagged array?

caird coinheringaahing

Just say that m - n is only well-defined if m > n

lyxal

10:57 PM

@DLosc doesn't feel like an illusion when rep goes missing ;p

PyGamer0

youtube intros be like: hey guys today we will be playing minecraft, but first, a word from our sponsor, raid shadow legends

caird coinheringaahing

@Neil Retagging

Everyone who had a array-manipulation tag badge lost it, then got a array tag badge

Neil

bah, I got all excited there for a few seconds

DLosc

@cairdcoinheringaahing Which, now that I think about it, makes sense both from a "define numbers in terms of set theory" perspective, as well as an intuitive perspective. If you have five apples, you can't take away six of them.

Subtraction with an apple metaphor is really more like partitioning into two groups.

lyxal

gosh dang I just realised I'm not exactly allowed to sarcastically share screenshots of the exam I'm about to take.

and y'all know how much I love posting out of context snippets

caird coinheringaahing

10:59 PM

@DLosc You can! Just wait for the person to get another apple, then come back and steal that one too

Mayube

@PyGamer0 *WHAT IS UP <insert offensive term for their fanbase> TODAY We're gunna be getting nostalgic and playing some old school stuff. That's right, Minecraft. But first don't forget to NUKE that like button from orbit and SEXUALLY ASSAULT the subscribe AND the bell and DON'T FORGET to check out our sponsor Rage: Scam-o Legends"

user

@lyxal Just paraphrase after you're done taking it :P

lyxal

@user nah I'll paraphrase whle I'm taking it

PyGamer0

@Mayube wtf lol

lyxal

it starts in a minute lol

Mayube

11:00 PM

@RedwolfPrograms Actually it's Redundant Array of Independent Disks these days

back when RAID was invented "inexpensive disks" meant disks that weren't the size of dishwashers.

Redwolf Programs

Don't think I've heard "independent" before, but good to know

Then again I haven't had to care about RAID for the last like three years lol

Manny Queen

@PyGamer0 what even are legends, do they mean like socks?

DLosc

@cairdcoinheringaahing Sounds like The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Take his fish away and tell him he's lucky just to be alive, and he'll figure out how to catch another one for you to take tomorrow."

Redwolf Programs

"Give a man fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

caird coinheringaahing

ಠ_ಠ Apparently one of my compulsory units next year is "Mathematical Programming", which is 12 weeks of learning Python

Redwolf Programs

11:03 PM

lol

caird coinheringaahing

Hmm yes, what does print mean, I don't know

user

@RedwolfPrograms Hmm yes ES6 (also called ES*2015*) is the latest version. Yes, let's just ignore everything that happened after that, that's when time started taking hard drugs

Mayube

@RedwolfPrograms It was apparently changed at some point since the '80s by the RAID advisory board, which fun fact is impossible to google because you just get dictionaries telling you what the RAID advisory board is ???

DLosc

@cairdcoinheringaahing Pro trolling strategy: write your assignments in Sage

caird coinheringaahing

Write them in Jelly, and include the interpreter in all my submissions :P

@Mayube Actually, it's a French police unit

Mayube

11:06 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Actually, it's a branch of the (fictional) terrorist group Advanced Idea Mechanics

which in turn was a branch of HYDRA

caird coinheringaahing

> A.I.M. and their R.A.I.D. (Radically Advanced Ideas of Destruction) branch

Manny Queen

people really work for their acronyms

caird coinheringaahing

@Mayube Actually, it's a Harry Potter series

Mayube

@cairdcoinheringaahing Not to be confused with A.I.D (Advanced Ideas of Destruction) which is a different branch of A.I.M

user

Congress works very hard to make acronyms like PATRIOT ACT. After all, that's why they're being paid the big bucks

caird coinheringaahing

11:09 PM

Oh yay, despite it being 5 days after Bonfire Night, there are people in the parking lot opposite me shooting off fireworks ಠ_ಠ

Redwolf Programs

Time to get congress to pass the Secure Highly Important Things Act

Mayube

@cairdcoinheringaahing I don't miss the ground being littered with spent firework sticks the morning of the 6th

user

@DLosc Thank you, you've given me a new way to waste time :P

caird coinheringaahing

@Mayube I wish it was only the morning of the 6th :/

DLosc

@user Taking people's fish, or reading Schlock Mercenary?

user

11:12 PM

The second, I don't like fish very much :P

Mayube

@cairdcoinheringaahing In my city it's only legal to discharge fireworks 2 days of the year

user

Well, I like fish that's been cooked properly and had the bones taken out, but that appears quite rarely

Mayube

@user If you want something done properly, do it yourself

caird coinheringaahing

@user You don't have to eat them, just take them :P

user

@Mayube That's where you're wrong: anything I do, someone else can do better :P

Mayube

11:13 PM

@user even self-deprecating?

caird coinheringaahing

@user If sushi counts as "cooked properly" (i.e. "not at all"), then same :P

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing What's the point of taking someone's uncooked fish? Then I'd have an angry fish-eater behind me and only a smelly fish to defend myself

@cairdcoinheringaahing I detest sushi.

caird coinheringaahing

@Mayube I'm the worst at being self-deprecating

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user

@Mayube Yup. Self-deprecating is like the easiest form of humor. I'm sure it can be very funny sometimes, but not in my hands

Mayube

I keep trying to get back into modded minecraft, but Factorio has ruined me

Redwolf Programs

11:16 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing tbf it's pretty hard to find sushi with bones in it

At least, where I am. ymmv and if so I am scared

Mayube

@RedwolfPrograms I googled "Bone Sushi" to see if it's a thing. Apparently it's the name of a sushi place in Richmond, BC. They're permanently closed. Wonder why

caird coinheringaahing

My sushi is all bones. Instead of rice, I use little bits of bone. Wasabi is just bone paste. My teeth are the strongest teeth ever

Mayube

Apparently there's a type of Korean "sushi" called Hoe that sometimes contains small edible fish bones

user

Sometimes I wonder how caird manages to survive with all the drugged, wine-infused, bone paste jelly sushi she eats :P

caird coinheringaahing

I don't really drink wine :P

Mayube

11:23 PM

@user perks of being a brit; you can endure anything as long as you can grumble about it in private later

caird coinheringaahing

And the trick is to be too poor to actually buy any of that stuff more than once :P

Plus ^^, we are unkillable, so long as what's trying to kill us can be grumbled about

user

Ah, is that how your queen's survived so long? :P

Mayube

Better yet, we can do it with a smile on our face

Britain is the home of anxiety-driven passive aggressiveness

2

Heck someone once had the nerve to serve me PG Tips and I drank it with a smile and then never spoke to them again

Bubbler

Git gud, Jelly

user

What's wrong with PG Tips?

@Bubbler Unrelated String has a Jelly golf to shave off a byte

Jelly has gitten gud

4

Mayube

11:28 PM

@user it's the off-brand diet coke of tea

caird coinheringaahing

@Mayube My flatmates drink PG Tips instead of Yorkshire Tea, and I just can't with them

Mayube

@cairdcoinheringaahing Good to know you have good taste at least

In my experience there are 2 types of tea drinkers: People who think it all tastes the same, and people who drink Yorkshire Tea

My wife was firmly in the former category until I had her try Yorkshire :P

thankfully it's universal enough that it's available in most stores over here

DLosc

@Mayube Does "generally only likes it if it's herbal or fruit-flavored" not count as a tea drinker, then? Because I definitely don't think it all tastes the same, but I've never had Yorkshire either.

Mayube

@DLosc strictly speaking herbal tea isn't tea (there's no tea in it), but I enjoy a good peppermint tea so I respect it

caird coinheringaahing

@Mayube We have family friends who are part of Taylor's of Harrogate, so we kinda have to like jt :P

user

11:32 PM

I don't think all tea tastes the same, but I can't recall ever having Yorkshire tea. Does that mean that I somehow lost my memories of drinking Yorkshire? :o

Mayube

@cairdcoinheringaahing I'm from Yorkshire, so ditto :P

caird coinheringaahing

Like, we do, but we didn't have a choice :P

@user Good luck drinking all of Yorkshire, it's like the size of Tokyo :P

Mayube

We live 'round the corner from a european import store, and they sell other Taylor's teas. I've always said Taylors is superior to Twinings but still drank Twinings Earl Grey. Now i can buy Taylors Earl Grey and it's definitely better

caird coinheringaahing

@Mayube Which part? My mum's side's from Pontefract

Mayube

@cairdcoinheringaahing Sheffield

user

11:34 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Ah, that explains why i frogot about it. My brain must be blocing those traumatic memries out

caird coinheringaahing

I always forget Sheffield's in Yorkshire

Mayube

to be fair it's almost Derbyshire, and almost Lancashire

caird coinheringaahing

Feels like it should be in "Sheffieldshire", given that basically all the cities in that area are like that

Mayube

@cairdcoinheringaahing it is, except we call it South Yorkshire :P

Don't tell Doncaster

caird coinheringaahing

Fair enough :P

South Yorkshire is basically a different country from North Yorkshire

Mayube

11:37 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing well that's cos South Yorkshire is real and North Yorkshire isn't :P

there's South Yorkshire, West Yorkshire, and the East Riding of Yorkshire

(North Yorkshire does exist, it just depends on who you ask, when you ask, what map you look at, where you ask, and whether or not it's raining in Sussex)

Fmbalbuena

@DLosc The Event is ended

Redwolf Programs

TFW you find a sequence that's the exact same as another sequence, which is completely unrelated to what you're doing

Bubbler

It hasn't been full 24 hours yet, but yeah I guess it's unofficially ended

Redwolf Programs

Specifically, A156017

Bubbler

@RedwolfPrograms It is the true power of OEIS, and it is why you see a bunch of "also a sequence found in [some seemingly unrelated context]..."

Mayube

11:51 PM

through the power of OEIS I learned today that I share a last name with the chief engineer on a project that was the first number sequence ever calculated on electronic computer

user

smh all these British shires. The Hobbits did it right: just the Shire. That's it. No New North Reading of Dyeorbyshire or whatever

Mayube

fun fact: The word "Shire" shares common roots with the word "Sheriff"

Redwolf Programs

Are there sheriffs in Britain?

DLosc

@Bubbler Did anybody try the factorial ///MC?

Bubbler

I tried but I have no idea how to proceed, really

New Bounties With No Deadlines

11:56 PM

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A: List of bounties with no deadline

500 rep for first vanilla factorial answer in /// On the sixth LYAL about ///, I proposed a factorial CMC but it went unanswered. Plain "multiply two numbers" without self-replicating code requires consuming part of the input as a pattern replacement, and it doesn't generalize well. So apparently...

Fmbalbuena

@Bubbler I think i can't do

Bubbler

Then go ahead

Fmbalbuena

You looked "@Bubbler I think i can do" but read carefully

Mayube

@RedwolfPrograms Yes! Historically a sheriff was a legal official responsible for a shire. These days a Sheriff is just a county or city official

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