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caird coinheringaahing

4:00 PM

It looks like Lean is the LOTM for October 2021! Feel free to write up the post (this is a good standard template). If you don't want to do so, or if you aren't active anymore, someone else will write it up in the next couple of days — caird coinheringaahing 5 hours ago

I'm not really sure, how should we review a first answer like this one where there's already around 20 other python answers, several of which are almost identical to this one?

Ignoring, at the moment, the formatting issues and such

caird coinheringaahing

I think the best things to do are to edit the formatting, then leave the classic welcome comment, with a note that there are already duplicate Python answers

We allow duplicate answers, so VTDing/recommending deletion is inappropriate, but people do often delete their own answers if they find out its a dupe

I didn't know redwolf was a sock :P

Ooh nice, a fellow sockpuppet — Redwolf Programs 39 mins ago

Redwolf Programs

4:27 PM

Why am I having to find the derivative of pi^x for a calculus problem

If I ever have to do that in real life something very bad is occuring

Every time someone writes "ln pi" another person dies a horrible death

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Q: Print a rectangle shape using asterisk

Print exactly like: *************** * * * * *************** length and breadth = n.

code-golf sequence pattern-matching

Welp, forgot that I have a code-golf close-hammer. But I don't regret closing the question.

can anyone help me extract the Hebrew text from this image please?

user image

I am not good at this sort of thing but I know for experts it is easy

@Anush Programmatically, or by hand?

@DLosc either way I am happy

I don't know how to do it either way

4:38 PM

@Anush I can.

@Adám thank you!

@Adám can you translate it?

Easy.

thanks!

> Peaceful and blessed sabbath
> A sea of health
> And good tidings

did you just copy that from somewhere?

I ask because of the formatting

4:39 PM

No, I just translated it from reading the image. My 3 lines correspond to the 3 lines in the image.

awesome

I was wondering if it was a quote

@Adám I have a lot of trouble reading Hebrew without the vowel points, but I did manage to recognize the first two words before seeing the translation :)

@DLosc that is good already!

@Anush It isn't the usual Friday afternoon phrasing.

@Adám what is the usual phrasing?

4:42 PM

Just the first line. The last line is usually coupled with other types of greetings, not sabbath greetings. The middle line is new to me.

ah ok. Thanks so much again. This chat room is definitely the best place on the Internet

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The initial line is kind of archaic/formal though. When speaking, people will just say the first two words "Peaceful sabbath".

got you

4:55 PM

@Adám when you say "first two words" - how are the words ordered in the original hebrew text? since the translation is "peaceful and blessed sabbath", does the original word ordering end up being something like "sabbath (that is) peaceful (and) blessed"?

New Posts - Challenges - Code Golf: Encode and decode floating point integers

posted on October 01, 2021 by celtschk

Imagine you have only one byte (8 bits) to store a value, but need to store values from $0$ to $4032$. Impossible, until you are also told that an error of 1/64 of the exact value does not matte...

Redwolf Programs

Can someone try quickly starring and unstarring something?

Thanks

Glad to help :) ... What was I helping with?

Redwolf Programs

Interesting, it'll include the name and user ID of who starred the message, but only if that person is you

Which makes me think that during development, it was possible to tell who starred something in chat

I've got logging set up now, so I'll be able to announce which message was the 30kth to be starred

caird coinheringaahing

5:17 PM

@RedwolfPrograms It was: meta.stackexchange.com/q/229913/355458

Redwolf Programs

Oh neat

caird coinheringaahing

Maintenance planned for tomorrow (2nd October), 15:00-17:00 UTC (11:00-13:00 EDT)

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Definitely having a busy week with maintenance :P

5:44 PM

ooh, i forgot that this challenge exists. I might just have to finish my Malbolge interpreter in Vim and post it there.

I have 5 WIP esolangs and I'm having trouble motivating myself to work on any of them. :/

caird coinheringaahing

Welcome to esolang development :P

Never understood why SOes, SOpt, SOja and SOru are on the chat.stackexchange servers instead of chat.SO

Redwolf Programs

I wish you could opt-out of flags from SOs in languages you don't know

Or rather, opt-in

I'd bet a lot of people click "not sure", which is not the correct thing to do when you don't know the language

@cairdcoinheringaahing Thanks, it's good to be here.

Redwolf Programs

Ooh, but I did accidentally pick up that flag with my logging, so I now know the format of event type 9

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms I ignore it, ever since I learnt that "not sure" counts as a partial "helpful flag"

5:53 PM

other way around

not sure is worth -1/5

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, it contributes to deleting it, right?

That should be what a "not sure" response should do

hmm now I can't remember but IIRC it contributes towards invalidating

Redwolf Programs

Yeah, and that would make sense

If you're not sure if something is offensive you could argue (not very well) that it's not super offensive

caird coinheringaahing

"Not sure" should just dismiss the flag dialog box, and get rid of the blue icon

Redwolf Programs

It should, yeah

Is chat acting really weird for y'all?

caird coinheringaahing

6:00 PM

Not more weird than normal

@RedwolfPrograms Fun fact, there are 25 different event types that SE explicitly has ids for, and most of them are unknown as to what they mean

But rather than be 1 through 25, it goes 1 through 22, then 29, 30 and 34

Ooh nice, I just hit 50k network rep!

Redwolf Programs

Nice!!!!

@cairdcoinheringaahing I am aware :p

caird coinheringaahing

SE chat telling me why I didn't win in the mod election: data-users="[{"name": "caird coinheringaahing", [...], "is_moderator":false,"can_moderate":false, [...]}]" :P

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Redwolf Programs

@RedwolfPrograms I did write NP/SP and the library they use :p

I do wonder if there's other events in the gaps that are either so rare they've never been seen, or deprecated or used internally

caird coinheringaahing

I found an MSE answer that listed all of the different events that are known (IIRC it was by an SE dev), and even that had a couple that were "We think it might be X"

Can't find it now tho :(

Redwolf Programs

6:16 PM

CMC: A number n which results in n search results on the OEIS wiki

7:16 PM

according to this, "not sure" counts for 1/5 of an invalidation

7:32 PM

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Q: Maximum burned digital display segments

My timer LCD display has one burned segment. No big deal, since I can still differentiate between all 10 digits without the burned one. --a-- | | b c | | --d-- | | e f | | --g-- But what if more segments started to fail? Write a program that finds the maximum ...

8:01 PM

I went to the sandbox and didn't realize it was sorting by votes and got really confused

Good job.

What if the sandbox had an accepted answer?

Redwolf Programs

8:17 PM

Does anyone have a userscript to make the starboard show all messages by default, and scroll?

We're now ten stars away from 30k

@RedwolfPrograms Conjecture: Suppose you type a number in the OEIS search box, take the number of results as the new number, and iterate. Unless there happens to be a fixed point or maybe a 2-cycle somewhere, all inputs will immediately start oscillating wildly between large and small numbers until they fall into the cycle 1 -> 347064 -> 3 -> 276859 -> 2 -> 322139 -> 1.

Redwolf Programs

I was actually doing that for some time

I kinda want to ruin it...

Redwolf Programs

To anyone who's planning on starring something far back in the transcript as the 30kth, please don't

We don't need an arms race :p

If we do have an arms race, it's clear that lyxal has already won ;)

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8:23 PM

9 to go now

Redwolf Programs

I starred that at the exact same second as someone else, the timestamps are identical :p

Me.

Redwolf Programs

Lyxal taking all of our arms brings a whole new meaning to "armed robbery"

More like "arm robbery"

Redwolf Programs

Depends on how many people Lyxal's robbed before getting to you :p

8:26 PM

True

Overarmed robbery

in CGCC Blog Chat, Jun 10 at 20:09, by Wezl

https://ermineii.github.io/paste/#0nVXLbuNGELzrKzpCgLVhicbmuMDGSDYJYGCR9SFAjmaTbEoTkzPMPCwpf5AA@Yk95bv2S1I9Q8lS4FN8MCTPTFd1dVX7fpycj2wjcZikjYFcT7I3IRq7oYHtJvFGAl31zlPrOqGNG/rrxfv/@bNYfJT4JlDkJyGmwbkn4kjBjfIK7IqUlOlNy8NwoKViH5bntF4@bpzr6JLlO3oQPxDbjr57@FjRL1sJQmHLXihuhVp84jaKV9xWO1ce0Ywo14gyGXECpjYXHoyVtXUmyFf06xas49YE8pK5jcI2EL7HciIHUhjrIj2Lb1yQFXWm78ULxO69G8nhlj9vVomWl0Nw9FsKkbb8rIwxI1zd8QH1HXWuCAZ8uwnVYvHBjZOi1dx1Jhpna71W39QViJp2q7waiVrjQqE7@tG6tNlSYNNV9H2KwDBxdaEb4OybeEYHdcnYEIU71ewFdHXG3ss0cCtzk7MEZFm13ZkIyMPYuCFU9BMYyZ7HaZAZeMuB6qrOXOsQfcuxXp3o5NMvf/95SSJ66D8BAz3/7DBOKZPQgivaZRVk38qAIVlC0TxetmZKAyv7VS7MRewWSij64ysXHyv6wUToqxeUkBJj7zGcih48ZD4AIiZo8oyOrLtbLD5lFUDIUpPMAJeTm8TnekWUrB0UejF01jpZ83uCUx1a9UnzmRPBg/lDit1HflKGrRtH1CqWIOFgAHil1Gb3XFdn4obb29uib5mTVkhBf3vZoE@dyOQlBPALGhwYqHVp6GAjaHTsoU@2zS3U87gxpgbSGfVROHKS7LGolsRrGDXqxDSA4WAj76vTWPVvyyKM80ud8j81geQy7HhaVnQPB8owaehG96wbA2PXisiUqgd1EubMecb1Fd801@uW3n9L7Rql8BXmuLd0cMmT29mT2DqlbBnXR7FrNCMcoe/EmhnkWnXUGZhOTooDcZyFRgQ/WSngr5fQBLZYFXm/PbM33Ayg6yxWB3RJQUo9Z1up6MMRqh54bDqm/bu3N3uQr/e1VkLPxWfsGwMJ/CGbqGRkfpMvztcGB1Q9S3atAvYJmUBIh7yLZzEVX7Ozo53MQX97c1cUw4BW/yGTeTQuxTJJwKvuePLlr8/1MXG4oxuQIZ6xLVrK7aFgiaWmQsrSBNrXj/VJmmOBFonJiqp1oFJ3Hnr0rHKy36QRDgjV5d7Ke8hN2OcIS4mz/h/Bk8eTc0PWAW5psKhmW45U9/RNTXo5nG7ehtTgoC7bq8a5rgt7Qq/@BQ#K04tCcnMTc0vLdFIK81LLsnMz9PQrFbIyU9OBLH1MopS0xRsFZQySkoKiq309cvLy/UqgapLk1L1kvNz9csTS5Iz7MtsUwLLTcotw9MjkgOVrBVqdRSMDYBA0xoA

I just got rickrolled... three months after the message was posted. I think that's a new record.

Redwolf Programs

> For enterprises, DoH has been a nightmare ever since it’s been proposed. DoH basically creates a mechanism to overwrite centrally-imposed DNS settings and allows employees to use DoH to bypass any DNS-based traffic filtering solutions

"Security sucks because it means we can't spy on people anymore"

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1 hour later…

9:37 PM

Would outputting lambda calc be considered metagolf?

9:52 PM

My mind has been on combinators every since the BCKW one

10:36 PM

@RedwolfPrograms Stop doing that then, you monster!

11:22 PM

@RedwolfPrograms I hate this game. I've found that 876 gives 786 results which is the same but the digits moved around, and I've found some close ones, but no match yet. It's so noisey it's hard to tell exactly where to look.

Redwolf Programs

I've had some really close calls too, but yeah it's so noisy and unpredictable

My closest by the way is 782, which has 784 results.

Redwolf Programs

Oh wow, that is close

Yay!

783 works.

Redwolf Programs

Wait it does?

No way!

Wait it doesn't for me

11:24 PM

The 780s are all really close.

Oh maybe I made a mistake?

Redwolf Programs

I'm getting 846

Huh.

I reloaded and I'm getting that.

idk.

Redwolf Programs

Weird

766 is working for me right now.

Reloading and all.

Redwolf Programs

Works for me too

11:26 PM

I just discovered uni.xkcd.com

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yay!

@RedwolfPrograms no I don't think I will

Redwolf Programs

Phew

What's the scoring criterion here?

@RedwolfPrograms but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna invest in machinery to do so

11:27 PM

Largest number?

Redwolf Programs

@WheatWizard Not sure, I wasn't entirely sure it'd be possible to be honest :p

@emanresuA I couldn't help myself, I'm reading the code for it :p

Already found some cool easter eggs

Such as...\

I didn't liik

Redwolf Programs

Konami code

wdym?

@emanresuA you didn't liik?

Wow

I expected better of you than to not liik.

Smh /s

11:33 PM

Smh my head.

Smy

user image

For posterity

Redwolf Programs

Ooh, unixkcd has a lot of Zork references

11:47 PM

@WheatWizard Dang it! My thrown-together web scraper didn't find any results... I started it at 800. :(

1 -> 347067 is a 2 step loop in the oeis. 1 has 347067 results and 347067 has 1. I would bet that most starting points end up caught in this loop, seeing as 0 -> 286011 -> 1 as well.

The other lesson here is that the numbers keep changing. I had 1 -> 347064 -> 3 -> 276859 -> 2 -> 322139 -> 1 earlier.

Redwolf Programs

Ooh new pfp?

It's spooky month =D

Yeah the small numbers are constantly in flux.

Oh yeah I have a October pfp set up. I should do that.

caird coinheringaahing

11:50 PM

Are you going back to blurry pictures of cats? :P

...

That took forever to set.

Redwolf Programs

Ooh, a name change too

Spooky!

Aww, your previous pfp was so much cuter

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