The Nineteenth Byte

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It looks like Lean is the LOTM for October 2021! Feel free to write up the post (this is a good standard template). If you don't want to do so, or if you aren't active anymore, someone else will write it up in the next couple of days — caird coinheringaahing 5 hours ago

Aaron Miller

I'm not really sure, how should we review a first answer like this one where there's already around 20 other python answers, several of which are almost identical to this one?

Ignoring, at the moment, the formatting issues and such

caird coinheringaahing

I think the best things to do are to edit the formatting, then leave the classic welcome comment, with a note that there are already duplicate Python answers

We allow duplicate answers, so VTDing/recommending deletion is inappropriate, but people do often delete their own answers if they find out its a dupe

Aaron Miller

I didn't know redwolf was a sock :P

Ooh nice, a fellow sockpuppet — Redwolf Programs 39 mins ago

Redwolf Programs

16:27

Why am I having to find the derivative of pi^x for a calculus problem

If I ever have to do that in real life something very bad is occuring

Every time someone writes "ln pi" another person dies a horrible death

New Posts

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Q: Print a rectangle shape using asterisk

Print exactly like: *************** * * * * *************** length and breadth = n.

DLosc

Welp, forgot that I have a code-golf close-hammer. But I don't regret closing the question.

Anush

can anyone help me extract the Hebrew text from this image please?

I am not good at this sort of thing but I know for experts it is easy

DLosc

@Anush Programmatically, or by hand?

Anush

@DLosc either way I am happy

I don't know how to do it either way

Adám

16:38

@Anush I can.

Anush

@Adám thank you!

@Adám can you translate it?

Adám

Easy.

Anush

thanks!

Adám

> Peaceful and blessed sabbath
> A sea of health
> And good tidings

Anush

did you just copy that from somewhere?

I ask because of the formatting

Adám

16:39

No, I just translated it from reading the image. My 3 lines correspond to the 3 lines in the image.

Anush

awesome

I was wondering if it was a quote

DLosc

@Adám I have a lot of trouble reading Hebrew without the vowel points, but I did manage to recognize the first two words before seeing the translation :)

Anush

@DLosc that is good already!

Adám

@Anush It isn't the usual Friday afternoon phrasing.

Anush

@Adám what is the usual phrasing?

Adám

16:42

Just the first line. The last line is usually coupled with other types of greetings, not sabbath greetings. The middle line is new to me.

Anush

ah ok. Thanks so much again. This chat room is definitely the best place on the Internet

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Adám

The initial line is kind of archaic/formal though. When speaking, people will just say the first two words "Peaceful sabbath".

Anush

got you

hyper-neutrino

16:55

@Adám when you say "first two words" - how are the words ordered in the original hebrew text? since the translation is "peaceful and blessed sabbath", does the original word ordering end up being something like "sabbath (that is) peaceful (and) blessed"?

Codidact Posts

New Posts - Challenges - Code Golf: Encode and decode floating point integers

posted on October 01, 2021 by celtschk

Imagine you have only one byte (8 bits) to store a value, but need to store values from $0$ to $4032$. Impossible, until you are also told that an error of 1/64 of the exact value does not matte...

Redwolf Programs

Can someone try quickly starring and unstarring something?

Thanks

DLosc

Glad to help :) ... What was I helping with?

Redwolf Programs

Interesting, it'll include the name and user ID of who starred the message, but only if that person is you

Which makes me think that during development, it was possible to tell who starred something in chat

I've got logging set up now, so I'll be able to announce which message was the 30kth to be starred

caird coinheringaahing

17:17

@RedwolfPrograms It was: meta.stackexchange.com/q/229913/355458

Redwolf Programs

Oh neat

caird coinheringaahing

Maintenance planned for tomorrow (2nd October), 15:00-17:00 UTC (11:00-13:00 EDT)

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Definitely having a busy week with maintenance :P

Aaron Miller

17:44

ooh, i forgot that this challenge exists. I might just have to finish my Malbolge interpreter in Vim and post it there.

I have 5 WIP esolangs and I'm having trouble motivating myself to work on any of them. :/

caird coinheringaahing

Welcome to esolang development :P

Never understood why SOes, SOpt, SOja and SOru are on the chat.stackexchange servers instead of chat.SO

Redwolf Programs

I wish you could opt-out of flags from SOs in languages you don't know

Or rather, opt-in

I'd bet a lot of people click "not sure", which is not the correct thing to do when you don't know the language

Aaron Miller

@cairdcoinheringaahing Thanks, it's good to be here.

Redwolf Programs

Ooh, but I did accidentally pick up that flag with my logging, so I now know the format of event type 9

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms I ignore it, ever since I learnt that "not sure" counts as a partial "helpful flag"

hyper-neutrino

17:53

other way around

not sure is worth -1/5

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, it contributes to deleting it, right?

That should be what a "not sure" response should do

hyper-neutrino

hmm now I can't remember but IIRC it contributes towards invalidating

Redwolf Programs

Yeah, and that would make sense

If you're not sure if something is offensive you could argue (not very well) that it's not super offensive

caird coinheringaahing

"Not sure" should just dismiss the flag dialog box, and get rid of the blue icon

Redwolf Programs

It should, yeah

Is chat acting really weird for y'all?

caird coinheringaahing

18:00

Not more weird than normal

@RedwolfPrograms Fun fact, there are 25 different event types that SE explicitly has ids for, and most of them are unknown as to what they mean

But rather than be 1 through 25, it goes 1 through 22, then 29, 30 and 34

Ooh nice, I just hit 50k network rep!

Redwolf Programs

Nice!!!!

@cairdcoinheringaahing I am aware :p

caird coinheringaahing

SE chat telling me why I didn't win in the mod election: data-users="[{"name": "caird coinheringaahing", [...], "is_moderator":false,"can_moderate":false, [...]}]" :P

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Redwolf Programs

@RedwolfPrograms I did write NP/SP and the library they use :p

I do wonder if there's other events in the gaps that are either so rare they've never been seen, or deprecated or used internally

caird coinheringaahing

I found an MSE answer that listed all of the different events that are known (IIRC it was by an SE dev), and even that had a couple that were "We think it might be X"

Can't find it now tho :(

Redwolf Programs

18:16

CMC: A number n which results in n search results on the OEIS wiki

hyper-neutrino

19:16

according to this, "not sure" counts for 1/5 of an invalidation

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19:32

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Q: Maximum burned digital display segments

My timer LCD display has one burned segment. No big deal, since I can still differentiate between all 10 digits without the burned one. --a-- | | b c | | --d-- | | e f | | --g-- But what if more segments started to fail? Write a program that finds the maximum ...

code-challenge

Aaron Miller

20:01

I went to the sandbox and didn't realize it was sorting by votes and got really confused

emanresu A

Good job.

What if the sandbox had an accepted answer?

Redwolf Programs

20:17

Does anyone have a userscript to make the starboard show all messages by default, and scroll?

We're now ten stars away from 30k

DLosc

@RedwolfPrograms Conjecture: Suppose you type a number in the OEIS search box, take the number of results as the new number, and iterate. Unless there happens to be a fixed point or maybe a 2-cycle somewhere, all inputs will immediately start oscillating wildly between large and small numbers until they fall into the cycle 1 -> 347064 -> 3 -> 276859 -> 2 -> 322139 -> 1.

Redwolf Programs

I was actually doing that for some time

emanresu A

I kinda want to ruin it...

Redwolf Programs

To anyone who's planning on starring something far back in the transcript as the 30kth, please don't

We don't need an arms race :p

DLosc

If we do have an arms race, it's clear that lyxal has already won ;)

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emanresu A

20:23

9 to go now

Redwolf Programs

I starred that at the exact same second as someone else, the timestamps are identical :p

emanresu A

Me.

Redwolf Programs

Lyxal taking all of our arms brings a whole new meaning to "armed robbery"

DLosc

More like "arm robbery"

Redwolf Programs

Depends on how many people Lyxal's robbed before getting to you :p

DLosc

20:26

True

emanresu A

Overarmed robbery

in CGCC Blog Chat, Jun 10 at 20:09, by Wezl

https://ermineii.github.io/paste/#0nVXLbuNGELzrKzpCgLVhicbmuMDGSDYJYGCR9SFAjmaTbEoTkzPMPCwpf5AA@Yk95bv2S1I9Q8lS4FN8MCTPTFd1dVX7fpycj2wjcZikjYFcT7I3IRq7oYHtJvFGAl31zlPrOqGNG/rrxfv/@bNYfJT4JlDkJyGmwbkn4kjBjfIK7IqUlOlNy8NwoKViH5bntF4@bpzr6JLlO3oQPxDbjr57@FjRL1sJQmHLXihuhVp84jaKV9xWO1ce0Ywo14gyGXECpjYXHoyVtXUmyFf06xas49YE8pK5jcI2EL7HciIHUhjrIj2Lb1yQFXWm78ULxO69G8nhlj9vVomWl0Nw9FsKkbb8rIwxI1zd8QH1HXWuCAZ8uwnVYvHBjZOi1dx1Jhpna71W39QViJp2q7waiVrjQqE7@tG6tNlSYNNV9H2KwDBxdaEb4OybeEYHdcnYEIU71ewFdHXG3ss0cCtzk7MEZFm13ZkIyMPYuCFU9BMYyZ7HaZAZeMuB6qrOXOsQfcuxXp3o5NMvf/95SSJ66D8BAz3/7DBOKZPQgivaZRVk38qAIVlC0TxetmZKAyv7VS7MRewWSij64ysXHyv6wUToqxeUkBJj7zGcih48ZD4AIiZo8oyOrLtbLD5lFUDIUpPMAJeTm8TnekWUrB0UejF01jpZ83uCUx1a9UnzmRPBg/lDit1HflKGrRtH1CqWIOFgAHil1Gb3XFdn4obb29uib5mTVkhBf3vZoE@dyOQlBPALGhwYqHVp6GAjaHTsoU@2zS3U87gxpgbSGfVROHKS7LGolsRrGDXqxDSA4WAj76vTWPVvyyKM80ud8j81geQy7HhaVnQPB8owaehG96wbA2PXisiUqgd1EubMecb1Fd801@uW3n9L7Rql8BXmuLd0cMmT29mT2DqlbBnXR7FrNCMcoe/EmhnkWnXUGZhOTooDcZyFRgQ/WSngr5fQBLZYFXm/PbM33Ayg6yxWB3RJQUo9Z1up6MMRqh54bDqm/bu3N3uQr/e1VkLPxWfsGwMJ/CGbqGRkfpMvztcGB1Q9S3atAvYJmUBIh7yLZzEVX7Ozo53MQX97c1cUw4BW/yGTeTQuxTJJwKvuePLlr8/1MXG4oxuQIZ6xLVrK7aFgiaWmQsrSBNrXj/VJmmOBFonJiqp1oFJ3Hnr0rHKy36QRDgjV5d7Ke8hN2OcIS4mz/h/Bk8eTc0PWAW5psKhmW45U9/RNTXo5nG7ehtTgoC7bq8a5rgt7Qq/@BQ#K04tCcnMTc0vLdFIK81LLsnMz9PQrFbIyU9OBLH1MopS0xRsFZQySkoKiq309cvLy/UqgapLk1L1kvNz9csTS5Iz7MtsUwLLTcotw9MjkgOVrBVqdRSMDYBA0xoA

I just got rickrolled... three months after the message was posted. I think that's a new record.

Redwolf Programs

> For enterprises, DoH has been a nightmare ever since it’s been proposed. DoH basically creates a mechanism to overwrite centrally-imposed DNS settings and allows employees to use DoH to bypass any DNS-based traffic filtering solutions

"Security sucks because it means we can't spy on people anymore"

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Adalynn

21:37

Would outputting lambda calc be considered metagolf?

Adalynn

21:52

My mind has been on combinators every since the BCKW one

user

22:36

@RedwolfPrograms Stop doing that then, you monster!

Wheat Wizard

23:22

@RedwolfPrograms I hate this game. I've found that 876 gives 786 results which is the same but the digits moved around, and I've found some close ones, but no match yet. It's so noisey it's hard to tell exactly where to look.

Redwolf Programs

I've had some really close calls too, but yeah it's so noisy and unpredictable

Wheat Wizard

My closest by the way is 782, which has 784 results.

Redwolf Programs

Oh wow, that is close

Wheat Wizard

Yay!

783 works.

Redwolf Programs

Wait it does?

No way!

Wait it doesn't for me

Wheat Wizard

23:24

The 780s are all really close.

Oh maybe I made a mistake?

Redwolf Programs

I'm getting 846

Wheat Wizard

Huh.

I reloaded and I'm getting that.

idk.

Redwolf Programs

Weird

Wheat Wizard

766 is working for me right now.

Reloading and all.

Redwolf Programs

Works for me too

emanresu A

23:26

I just discovered uni.xkcd.com

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Wheat Wizard

yay!

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms no I don't think I will

Redwolf Programs

Phew

Wheat Wizard

What's the scoring criterion here?

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna invest in machinery to do so

Wheat Wizard

23:27

Largest number?

Redwolf Programs

@WheatWizard Not sure, I wasn't entirely sure it'd be possible to be honest :p

@emanresuA I couldn't help myself, I'm reading the code for it :p

Already found some cool easter eggs

emanresu A

Such as...\

I didn't liik

Redwolf Programs

Konami code

emanresu A

wdym?

lyxal

@emanresuA you didn't liik?

Wow

I expected better of you than to not liik.

Smh /s

emanresu A

23:33

Smh my head.

lyxal

Smy

Wheat Wizard

For posterity

Redwolf Programs

Ooh, unixkcd has a lot of Zork references

DLosc

23:47

@WheatWizard Dang it! My thrown-together web scraper didn't find any results... I started it at 800. :(

Wheat Wizard

1 -> 347067 is a 2 step loop in the oeis. 1 has 347067 results and 347067 has 1. I would bet that most starting points end up caught in this loop, seeing as 0 -> 286011 -> 1 as well.

DLosc

The other lesson here is that the numbers keep changing. I had 1 -> 347064 -> 3 -> 276859 -> 2 -> 322139 -> 1 earlier.

Redwolf Programs

Ooh new pfp?

DLosc

It's spooky month =D

Wheat Wizard

Yeah the small numbers are constantly in flux.

Oh yeah I have a October pfp set up. I should do that.

caird coinheringaahing

23:50

Are you going back to blurry pictures of cats? :P

Wheat Wizard

...

That took forever to set.

Redwolf Programs

Ooh, a name change too

Wheat Witch

Spooky!

user

Aww, your previous pfp was so much cuter

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