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10:00 PM

@NobodyNada don't forget that those aren't mutually exclusive and nobody is proposing to get rid of old reviews without any review. At least none that I've seen that are being actively considered here.

@Daniil I have no idea if I've granted you MS roles which you have not previously held. However, it's quite likely that I granted you Flagger and Reviewer, as I've done most of those for a while. I know that I was not the one to initially give you Blacklist manager nor Core.

@RyanM They're certainly a thorn in a lot of mods' sides. I think some of their accounts have been network suspended. I'll double check later.

Thanks!

We may want to clean up the talk about that specific troll so as not to stroke their ego. I believe they've been known to haunt here. I'll leave that up to the admins if they want to. Of course I can do the actual clean up if needed.

user435118

@Makyen Nope, initially Art granted them.

user435118

10:03 PM

@ArtOfCode My email doesn't like yours :/

thesecretmaster

@Daniil If there's something in particular you want, I can grab it and keybase it to you.

user435118

@thesecretmaster I don't have Keybase.

user435118

Actually, it seems to have worked now.

thesecretmaster

Ah, ok

@Daniil You said "Fine, I won't.", which you only said after multiple people suggested it would be a good idea for you to say something. Frankly, the way it's said it is unclear what you meant and not very convincing, given your other statements.

10:06 PM

fp feedback received on [MS] A question about masturbation

user435118

@Makyen I meant I won't be giving automated feedback.

fp feedback received on [MS] Php admin code for editing doesn't work since i changed my shared hosting to a vps

fp feedback received on [MS] what's a secure way to send passwords over the internet?

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fp feedback received on [MS] Tips for testing data intensive legacy application

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user435118

@SmokeDetector tp-

@Daniil I hesitate to weigh in because I'm in no position of authority, but what you said before and continued alluding to: "But you won't even know..." is really... Well, it's a bit shady, to be more blunt than I want to be. You have to understand that it looks really untrustworthy to continue to allude to that notion when there were several longstanding Charcoal members asking you not to do what you continued to say you were going to do. That doesn't inspire much trust.

By the way if we can knock out 195 review queue items in the next 1:45 we'll break be below 10k review items...

Just saying ;-)

user435118

10:12 PM

@Rubiksmoose Sure, if someone would restore my access...

To the queue!

@Daniil Yes, that would be a prerequisite.

user435118

sdc watch-number +91 9791703519

@Daniil You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4852 for you.

PR#4852 ("Daniil: Watch +91 9791703519") opened by SmokeDetector

user435118

10:14 PM

Really? This is just ridiculous

user435118

sdc watch live\:support_60864(?#Skype)

@Daniil You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4853 for you.

PR#4853 ("Daniil: Watch live:support_60864(?#Skype)") opened by SmokeDetector

sdc approve 4853

tp feedback received on [MS] What do you think about implementing new technologies on modern economy? (Please can you pass this survey)

10:16 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 1706d59 (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4853 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1600294510) (running on teward/Osiris)

@Daniil You don't have blacklist manager privileges, but I've created PR#4854 for you.

PR#4854 ("Daniil: Watch live\:support_60864(?#Skype)") opened by SmokeDetector

user435118

@ArtOfCode Nope, unescaped colon.

@Daniil There's no need to escape a colon.

@metasmoke We TP surveys like this, yeah?

user435118

@Makyen Huh, I thought you did.

10:17 PM

!!/reject-force 4854 "Previous watch already merged"

@Makyen PR #4854 is not currently open, so I won't reject it.

sdc approve 4852

user435118

26 mins ago, by Daniil

@ArtOfCode cc @Makyen Can you restore my access, please?

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev cab89e9 (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4852 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1600294440) (running on teward/Osiris)

you already know the answer to that

10:19 PM

Feedback drives autoflagging, and autoflagging is sacred. Restoring access risks adverse effects to that system, so no.

user435118

No, because you didn't respond.

27 mins ago, by ArtOfCode

@Daniil okay, I didn't want to make a big thing of this, but you're going to keep on about it if nobody says anything. Your access has been revoked, and will stay that way until your behaviour in this chatroom improves. That's all I'm going to say on that.

user435118

@Undo I really don't see a risk adding another tpu to a report with 1000+ weight and 5 other tpu feedbacks

there's also no use in that case

user435118

23 mins ago, by Daniil

@ArtOfCode You're not telling me what I did wrong.

10:20 PM

naa feedback received on [MS] Decode MD5, Brute Force

tp feedback received on [MS] Create a program that prints the amount of characters it has, in words

fp feedback received on [MS] How do I restore a partition without losing the data?

user435118

@Undo And there's no risk, so you are more than welcome to restore access.

@Daniil there's no benefit either

user435118

14 mins ago, by Daniil

@Makyen I meant I won't be giving automated feedback.

naa feedback received on [MS] Can I Record 4ch in a zoom H4n with my setup?

fp feedback received on [MS] c++ ,mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

fp feedback received on [MS] A extrange file was created on my desktop

fp feedback received on [MS] What electric component is this? (its on an old electric organ)

user435118

I think I stated quite clearly that I won't do it

10:22 PM

fp feedback received on [MS] Make Windows 10 File Explorer look like Mac OSX Finder's column view

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fp feedback received on [MS] Batch Geocoding

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@Daniil yes, you did. I've also stated quite clearly that your access will not be restored until your treatment of people here improves. I will not entertain any reversal of that and restoration of access until I see that you are capable of some basic respect.

fp feedback received on [MS] Unable to read the RS232 attached GPIO pins the same way as USB serial port on Pi3

fp feedback received on [MS] Amazon EC2 terminology - AMI vs. EBS vs. Snapshot vs. Volume

fp feedback received on [MS] Amazon EC2 terminology - AMI vs. EBS vs. Snapshot vs. Volume

fp feedback received on [MS] ESP12E Soft WDT reset stack trace leads to libraries

fp feedback received on [MS] Do I need to add a comma before an "and"?

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user435118

@ArtOfCode I can't see you being capable of any respect either.

stop

fp feedback received on [MS] Fibonacci function or sequence

10:25 PM

@Daniil Okay. That's your judgement to make.

fp feedback received on [MS] What electric component is this? (its on an old electric organ)

fp feedback received on [MS] Enable NTFS long paths does not allow copying files over the network

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fp feedback received on [MS] Chrome is unable to connect to the Internet

fp feedback received on [MS] Simple chess variants for beginners

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naa feedback received on [MS] Rust removal with phosphoric acid created more rust

user435118

See, this is an example of what I'm talking about.

Personal attacks are always over the line. Do not continue.

naa feedback received on [MS] What expression is analogous to "whoops a daisy"?

naa feedback received on [MS] Do Cognito Forms offer a Callback function?

fp feedback received on [MS] How to choose AC/DC adapter - high voltage low current vs low voltage high current

user435118

@ArtOfCode You can't even let me make it.

10:27 PM

@Daniil I'm inviting you to take a break from this project, including the room, for 1 week.

The disruption has to stop

Hey, @Daniil. Could you please take a moment to take a breather?

naa feedback received on [MS] Make Windows 10 File Explorer look like Mac OSX Finder's column view

fp feedback received on [MS] Make Windows 10 File Explorer look like Mac OSX Finder's column view

@Daniil Stop please @Daniil.

fp feedback received on [MS] How to get XML file from FTP sever to Salesforce..?

API quota rolled over with 6617 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.

math: 102
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user435118

10:28 PM

@Undo Invitation declined.

fp feedback received on [MS] What are the best ideas to make money online from Iran?

user435118

@Spevacus Sure.

@Daniil Invitation enforced. One week, 168 hours minimum.

fp feedback received on [MS] OUTSIDE THE USA POSSIBLE TO GET A GRANT?

fp feedback received on [MS] OUTSIDE THE USA POSSIBLE TO GET A GRANT?

fp feedback received on [MS] Magento 2 Visual Swatch Image: Background of image is removed after upload

PR#4855 ("plan z") opened by Undo1

user435118

@Undo I'm not really sure how you can enforce that...

10:30 PM

fp feedback received on [MS] How can i show specific Category List?

fp feedback received on [MS] Where to find chess coaches?

Please, please don't try me.

@Daniil I'd hope that you would take it upon yourself to self-enforce that.

user435118

@Spevacus I declined the invitation.

CI on 73cf7d5 succeeded.

I believe it was a British invitation

10:31 PM

Um... this is concerning...

teward/Osiris: Goodbye, cruel world

in the sense of "let me invite you to pop these handcuffs on and step this way into this here cell, my good chap"

Possibility of taking this somewhere a bit more comfy?

user435118

I'm not sure that worked @Undo

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev cab89e9 (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4852 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1600294440) (running on teward/Osiris, Python 3.6.9)

Restart: API quota is 19981.

10:32 PM

hah did I kill it

!!/location

@Spevacus teward/Osiris cab89e9 (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #4852 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1600294440)

user435118

@Undo No, I just rebooted.

To remove any uncertainty: Please take a break from contributing in any way for a week.

Really, this'll be better.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev a31c9a8 (Undo1: Merge pull request #4855 from Charcoal-SE/plan-z --autopull) (running on teward/Osiris, Python 3.6.9)

10:33 PM

@Daniil I'm kind of new here so don't know much of the history, but I am, as a hopefully neutral third party, asking you to please stop. You are not doing yourself any favors by continuing this discussion at this time.

user435118

I don't see why.

Restart: API quota is 19976.

@Daniil. I need you to leave this room as requested for a week. I asked you to do so a few weeks back and you instead promised to listen when people tried to tell you that you're out of line. Sinc that clearly failed, I am going to say that leaving for a week is now necessary.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev a31c9a8 (Undo1: Merge pull request #4855 from Charcoal-SE/plan-z --autopull) (running on iBug/Coral)

user435118

@Catija I don't see that it is necessary.

10:34 PM

It doesn't matter. It is necessary.

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev a31c9a8 (Undo1: Merge pull request #4855 from Charcoal-SE/plan-z --autopull) (running on Makyen/EC2-linux)

tp feedback received on [MS] Random Chess Legal Position Generator

fp feedback received on [MS] GUI for stockfish that can analyse the full game

fp feedback received on [MS] Checkmate possibility for Black

user435118

It isn't.

@Daniil arguing with us is one thing... arguing it with someone who could choose to enforce it by removing your diamond and suspending you seems... misguided

By remaining here regardless of the request of those in the room and relying on your mod status to keep you from being chat suspended is an abuse of your moderator powers.

10:39 PM

fp feedback received on [MS] How can I keep my wallet secure?

fp feedback received on [MS] Critical editing software

fp feedback received on [MS] Arducam blocking i2c

user435118

Fine, I'll go if @Undo reverts the code changes that make my user ID not privileged.

fp feedback received on [MS] Macbook internal SSD won't mount - missing partitions, EFI partition corrupt?

@Daniil no. You'll just go.

We aren't really negotiating here, those edits are to turn you into a normal user.

tp feedback received on [MS] Why are far left movements overwhelmingly white?

naa feedback received on [MS] Dropbox-like web interface for an FTP server

user435118

10:41 PM

I've said on what grounds I'll go.

fp feedback received on [MS] 504/502 errors plauging our site

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@Daniil you understand that you're putting me in the position of choosing between removing your diamond and you just leaving, right?

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user435118

@Catija You've given me no reason to go though.

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[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev fc3d591 (Undo1: plan z) (running on Makyen/EC2-num02, Python 3.6.12)

10:45 PM

Me telling you to leave because you would have been kicked or suspended if you weren't a moderator and immune, is the reason. Refusing to leave is an abuse of your mod status.

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user435118

@Catija But you're not telling me why I would've been kicked or suspended.

fp feedback received on [MS] Completely cutting silence out of an audio file

!!/report mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/79752/…

fp feedback received on [MS] Why ping returns a completely unexpected address?

10:51 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (93): Which car best for racing? by Aliha Mughal on mechanics.SE

@SmokeDetector k

tpu- feedback received

@Daniil We've told you that, plenty of times, both today and in the past. Your treatment of people here has frequently been unacceptable. Please do as we have asked and as Catija is now asking, and leave the room for a week.

Stars not necessary, this isn't a star fight

(as fun as those are)

@Daniil because you have been regularly causing arguments for weeks in this room to the point that the maintainers of this project have revoked your privileges and clearly have told you to take a week away. That's plenty of reasons.

I understand your urge to help and build this project and that's ... great. I think that projects like Charcoal appreciate people wanting to grow their project but I also know that any project only has so many directions it can go at any one time and a limited amount of bandwidth to troubleshoot. For that reason, it's necessary to work together towards shared goals, rather than trying to bend a project to our own goals.

On top of that, it's important to build and grow the interpersonal relationships with the other people working on the project, particularly the leads and maintainers of that project. If you're not getting along with any or most of them, that's a good sign that maybe you need to find a different project to work on. I know that's hard and can leave someone feeling aimless... but you must recognize that there are people behind any project.

10:59 PM

fp feedback received on [MS] OpenSSL install error

user435118

@Catija How can I launch a complaint/investigation about another moderator(s) conduct as well?

214

Q: What recourse do I have if I believe a moderator has abused their privileges?

One or more of the following things happened to me on a Stack Exchange site: My post(s) were wrongly deleted or locked by a moderator A moderator posted a wrong comment on one of my posts I was suspended, but did not do anything wrong I asked a meta question, but the question was closed and/or ...

support faq moderators abuse

The "Contact" form is the option you'll want.

@Daniil Same as usual, via the contact form.

@Daniil I would recommend against that though

user435118

@Catija Thanks.

user435118

11:08 PM

@JohnDvorak Why?

@Daniil Likely to backfire

Typically, when an investigation is launched, not only the filee's conduct, but also the filer's conduct, is investigated.

Y'all, just drop it.

@JohnDvorak Let it go, if he wants to file a complaint that's fine

@Daniil Let us know your thoughts. You can even send an email to me if you're afraid the contact form will get ignored.

11:11 PM

Okay, here's what we're gonna do

Everyone here kinda needs a break

So... let's just give everyone a break

user435118

@Catija Ok, I'm drafting an email to you now.

Please: No human traffic for the next few hours, from anyone, save feedback and service outage notifications from Thomas. No need to reply to anyone, post anything, etc.

fp feedback received on [MS] How can I check compatibility between AWUS amplifiers and antennas?

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Metasmoke will be going down in approximately 15 minutes for a 30-minute outage (at most - at the least 10 minutes), the host system running the VMs has a dying drive in it and it needs replaced for the integrity of that compute node in the VMware cluster.

^ ward is not human, as we know

11:17 PM

^ that, but also I don't think this notice of an 'emergency outage' is forbidden since it's a critical service notice. returns to the Void

fp feedback received on [MS] Pythagorean triplets of the form $a^2+(a+1)^2=c^2$ and the space between them

fp feedback received on [MS] How to successfully emulate RPI on OSX?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in body (1): Is it possible to connect Longan Nano with WS2815 LED stripde? by Vlad on arduino.SE

fp- feedback received

I have to go somewhere, quiet period stays in effect - for the blue/ROs among you, feel free to migrate human messages to Trash or wherever. Use your judgement and minimize drama.

Metasmoke going down now.

11:33 PM

teward/Osiris: In getting MS post information, recovered from json.decoder.JSONDecodeError: Expecting value: line 1 column 1 (char 0)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer (78): How can I fix a screen door that sticks? by Angel Tristan on diy.SE

!!/ms-down

teward/Osiris: Metasmoke status: set to down.

@NobodyNada Metasmoke status is now: down; Auto status switch: enabled.

Metasmoke status autoswitch is now disabled.

@SmokeDetector k

11:45 PM

fp feedback received on [MS] Lead is not flowing from Linked Lead Gen Form

fp feedback received on [MS] Magento 2 B2B plugin functionalities

Metasmoke and the other resources on the affected compute node SHOULD be coming back shortly.

!!/ms-up

teward/Osiris: Metasmoke status: set to up.

@NobodyNada Metasmoke status is now: up; Auto status switch: enabled.

!!/scan-force diy.stackexchange.com/a/203563 "backfill MS"

@NobodyNada Post 1: Already recently reported [ MS ]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer, blacklisted user (149): How can I fix a screen door that sticks? by Angel Tristan on diy.SE

11:47 PM

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