Raiders of the Lost Downboat

@pomsky Well I saw the user is pasting a same answer in every [wireless] question. removing bcmwl-kernel-source and installing Realtek drivers. Even if the hardware is Qualcomm.

dupe

Who deleted answer to this question? Was any mod involved?

pomsky

7:17 AM

@Kulfy deletable now

Kulfy

@pomsky I'm still <10k

pomsky

@Kulfy Yes, and answer posted to this one too: askubuntu.com/questions/1150912/wifi-adapter-missing-on-19-04

Kulfy

@pomsky Which mod?

pomsky

mitch

Kulfy

I'm not sure if Mitch saw my flag

pomsky

7:20 AM

@Kulfy that was a reply to the chat message, didn't mean you personally :)

Kulfy

@pomsky Oh. OK OK

Eliah Kagan

7:48 AM

OT Kali

I see no indication that Ubuntu is being used there.

Kulfy

I don't think it's OT. It's just a very generic question.

Eliah Kagan

no repro (I don't think questions that turn out to be hardware problems or problems with hardware-only solutions are necessarily no repro, but in some cases, like this one, there's no indication in Ubuntu that specifically would suggest the solution.)

@Kulfy I think that question is perfectly good. It could be written better, and it could show a bit more research, but really it's fine, the OP reports what they observed, it's clear, and it can be (and has been) specifically answered.

Kulfy

@EliahKagan Yeah. And as far as I remember I must have MS's link where they announced the feature. Need to dig up history.

dupe

Eliah Kagan

I cast my dupe vote yesterday. :)

Kulfy

Still 2 more needed....

Eliah Kagan

8:07 AM

I think I was wrong to VTC this question, which was automatically deleted after being closed. I believe the commented workaround (which should have been posted as an answer) applies to a variety of problems gaming in Wine that manifest that way. It's less applicable today (because gaming in Wine tends to work better) but I think still applicable. I've voted to undelete the question.

I ended up referring to that comment in this CW answer elsewhere. For some reason I had not noticed, or had forgotten to take action based on, the comment there requesting that the broken link be fixed.

Eliah Kagan

8:21 AM

Does that latest edit (revision #11) improve the post? I don't think the code formatting was unclear before, and a link with a useful title was replaced by one that just says "This question".

Kulfy

I'll consider it not as a very goof edit but ok-ish

Eliah Kagan

When I want to prevent links from taking up too much space in my own posts, I sometimes make them like that, but it's not ideal, and I should really do it less. I avoid removing readable titles from links without good reason while editing other people's posts. I think I recall something on meta about how that makes the posts less accessible--I think hard to understand when using a screen reader--but I'm not sure.

Kulfy

Not OT-EOL 14.04 was supported in 2016

Eliah Kagan

Ah, found it. (Or at least some related thing.)

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A: Should posts be edited to have readable links?

Many times you can go too simple on the links, for example - Read this article for more information: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/12-default-ubuntu-phone-apps-to-be-community-created Is a bit too long, but if you edit it to - Visit this article for more information. You have l...

I remember thinking it was unfortunate that Mateo's answer only got voted a little higher than mine, since Mateo's answer is far better than mine on that meta question.

@Kulfy I've voted to leave it open. It needs at least one more review.

I'll just re-edit the post.

Kulfy

I tend to use [blabla - sitename] instead of [this article]. This gives the reader an idea about the link without even visiting the link.

Eliah Kagan

8:28 AM

Yeah. I think that's a very good way of doing it.

Kulfy

IMO [this] is very much vague

Any difference in this answer and this answer

Command is same.

Eliah Kagan

9:06 AM

I don't think it adds anything at all. I've voted to delete it.

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] drivers DRIVERS NEEDED FOR ASUS BW-12D1S-U EXTERNAL BLU RAY DVD DRIVE By: Agrippinus 4.5;

Eliah Kagan

@EliahKagan Unfortunately that was part of a large pattern. I've fixed a handful of them and commented on one but there are more.

The majority of the user's edits are good and many of the ones that shorten readable links to non-readable links make other changes that are good, in some cases vital.

@Natty tp

Eliah Kagan

9:20 AM

Unclear. I've commented. I hope my comment helps the OP give the requested information.

Kulfy

@EliahKagan They saw your comment. You might consider taking it down.

@EliahKagan OP last signed in Sep '18 and I don't think they'll come back and provide those details.

Eliah Kagan

@Kulfy Thanks, I've removed it.

@Kulfy I guess not. Well, the close vote I cast will be even more likely to be useful. :)

Kulfy

@EliahKagan I guess you downvoted this answer. Answerer found some solution and then they deleted the answer. Was that answer deleted by the owner?

Eliah Kagan

The one downvote on that answer was from me, yes, and I had also cast the first delete vote, which was before the edit. It was not deleted by the author. @pomsky cast the final delete vote. Do you think it should be undeleted?

Kulfy

Well they were talking about this solution. I don't know what was helpful in this

I think it should remain deleted.

Eliah Kagan

9:32 AM

Yeah. The OP reported having the drive but it not working. A report that it did work or does usually work doesn't really answer the question of how to fix it when it doesn't.

Kulfy

But they mentioned "found a solution". Sounds weird.

Eliah Kagan

Yeah, that is weird. But they said, "No reason why it shouldn't work under Ubuntu…" Maybe they misunderstood the question.

Kulfy

Yeah. May be.

pomsky

@EliahKagan Yeah, sorry, I forgot to leave a "link-only answer is not an answer" comment before deleting

Eliah Kagan

Though good, I think it's not strictly necessary. The system displays some information about why answers may be deleted. I actually pinged you in case there was something about the edit that I had missed that might warrant undeleting the post. I thought I was going to have to go afk for a while around then.

Zanna

9:41 AM

@Kulfy that's unlikely

Kulfy

@Zanna It was marked helpful by the way but I don't see action taken.

Zanna

I think flags like that would only get declined if they seemed frivolous

Because there's no specific action implied

That would mark the flag automatically

Eliah Kagan

Yeah. For a custom mod flag about possible voting irregularities that is specific enough to make clear the cause of concern and whose factual statements are accurate, links are the right ones, concern makes sense, etc., mods are highly likely to mark the flag helpful even if they determine that there's no action that has to be done (or are unable to determine anything and take no action).

Zanna

@Kulfy maybe they investigated and they sent messages, or they investigated and found nothing suspect

Eliah Kagan

Also, a small number (compared to your helpful flags) of declined flags is really not a problem at all.

Kulfy

9:44 AM

Actually I was expecting "voting corrected"

Zanna

@Kulfy that's not done by mods

I'd expect profile deletion of any sock puppets

Eliah Kagan

If you mean the thing that appears in the reputation tab, that can only be triggered by a the actions of a bot, for short-term serial voting, or by an investigation and action taken by SE employees (I think CMs do it), for longer term targeted voting.

Zanna

You'd see minus points and "user was removed"

Perhaps

Bbl

Kulfy

@EliahKagan 12 declined and 1301 helpful :)

@Zanna I see.

Eliah Kagan

(unrelated) Next time I feel tempted to engage someone in comments about a non-moderation-related side topic, I will remember this whole situation and not do it. That's not on AU, happily. That the user pushing the (literally) philosophical argument was a moderator (and the one who locked the original question) is... not great.

I guess that's sort of off-topic because it's a different site. I'm just glad I don't see stuff like that here very often.

Kulfy

9:50 AM

@EliahKagan I was carried away by Oli's post

@EliahKagan It's a very poorly formatted question.

Eliah Kagan

Yes, the OP's question and comments there are also bad.

I think this question is currently unclear.

pomsky

10:30 AM

Is there a better dupe-candidate for this one?

Kulfy

@EliahKagan OP is using EOL version

Eliah Kagan

Good point. Well, it's closed as unclear now. I doubt they'll want it reopened--they seem to have indicated that they solved the problem.

Eliah Kagan

10:59 AM

@Zanna Do you think that comment you posted should now be replaced with a "Related, though not a duplicate:" comment with a link to the related post? I don't know what the related post was, which is one of the reasons I'm asking rather than trying to add a comment.

pomsky

no response from OP on this one

Eliah Kagan

VTC'd

Natty

12:37 PM

[ Natty | Sentinel ] nvidia Audio over Displayport on docked Thinkpad T530 By: Özi 7.0;

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[ Natty | Sentinel ] boot Ubuntu 16.04 fails to boot 'Loading initial ramdisk' By: freackout 3.5;

Eliah Kagan

@Natty tp

pomsky

dupe, OP abides:

@pomsky COOL it worked, thank god, do I need to delete this post since its a duplicate or no? — Dwyte 15 mins ago

Eliah Kagan

1:06 PM

no repro

pomsky

1:19 PM

@Kulfy In case you missed it, the user is suspended for a week for voting irregularities.

@Zanna Also this user's profile (mentioned in this comment by Zanna) seems to be nuked from orbit (cc @Kulfy).

Kulfy

1:33 PM

@pomsky Well I pinged terdon in AUGR to have a on my flag. He did. Happy to see people in penalty box who play game with the system.

@pomsky Well may be Zanna was right. That account was made just to upvote answers by the earlier user. Like in this question they upvoted and accepted the answer of the other account even when the answers were similar and made it possible for other account to upvote (15(accept)+10(upvote)) posts.

165 reputation was generated by that user only.

OT-19.10

Natty

1:57 PM

[ Natty | Sentinel ] sound "Dummy Output" in Ubuntu 16.04 after fresh install By: Naser Erfani 7.5;

Some Error Occurred on this post

[ Natty | Sentinel ] lenovo setting up fingerprint sensor ubuntu 19.04 By: Bob 3.5;

Eliah Kagan

I think this question is unclear (see comments).

@Natty tp

Zanna

@EliahKagan ugh

Eliah Kagan

Perhaps SE could add a "What! What are you doing!" comment flag.

Zanna

Hahaha feature-request time

Eliah Kagan

lol

@Kulfy Regarding the edit there, should the OP be asked to post an answer with information from the linked page? Or just leave it alone?

Zanna

2:21 PM

@EliahKagan I suspect it was this question so I think I should just delete my comment there

Eliah Kagan

Oh.

Yeah, I wouldn't bother linking to that there.

Zanna

Removed the comment. Thanks for spotting that :)

No problem.

Back soon

Ok.

2:55 PM

[ Natty | Sentinel ] usb Using a USB to I2C adapter on Ubuntu By: user981882 7.5;

Some Error Occurred on this post

Eliah Kagan

@Natty tp

Kulfy

3:08 PM

@EliahKagan If OP posts an answer, it won't go with the title. Since title asks whether the mirror is down and answer might say how to change mirror. IMO we should add a comment [related] with the link of question which does exactly the same, i.e. changing the mirror. I can't find a question for Desktop though question for server is available. Also, IMO it's better to have a link from AU only instead of some other 3rd party link.

Zanna

@pomsky aha well spotted @Kulfy

Eliah Kagan

3:25 PM

Do we have any other questions on the topic of what exit codes mean? IMO the existing answers leave something to be desired. Even if I could post "Related:" comments (one in each direction, I mean), I think that might be helpful.

Or I guess an answer could be posted with information from there. It might be viewed as an attempt to reply to the accepted answer rather than its own answer, though.

Should this answer be considered NAA (as alleged in Smokey feedback)? My inclination is yes--the only information it gives (rather than links to) is a recommendation about something other than what driver to use.

Zanna

3:58 PM

Voted to delete

Kulfy

5:26 PM

OT-EOL 15.04 reached EOL in Feb '16 and question was asked in April '16

This answer wouldn't help IMO

Eliah Kagan

no improvement

Natty

5:46 PM

[ Natty | Sentinel ] hdmi USB-C to HDMI Cable issues in Ubuntu 16.10 and 17.04 By: freackout 4.5;

Zanna

-5

Q: Why is exit code 0 a Success and 1 a Failure

As 0 is a boolean false and 1 a true, shouldn't APIs in HTTP return response_code 0 for Success instead of a 1?

scripts

0

Q: How do you set the exit status of a shell script?

Recently, I was wondering how you change the exit status or end status of a script in bash. For example; say we run test.sh and inside the program it exits using exit 0… I was wondering what would be a normal procedure to change this exit status to say 1? I know that you could use exit 1 but is t...

bash scripts

Eliah Kagan

@Zanna Is that even asking about process exit codes?

(unrelated) Do people edit tag wikis anymore? I never see tag wiki edit suggestions in review.

Can a SEDE query show us all the tag wiki edits?

I looked at our bash tag wiki and then the corresponding tags' tag wikis on Stack Overflow and Unix & Linux.

askubuntu.com/tags/bash/info

stackoverflow.com/tags/bash/info

unix.stackexchange.com/tags/bash/info

@Zanna Btw that stuff about tag wikis reminds me (in a way that is circuitous), did you decide if you wanted to make an SE Chat - Trello cross-indexing and chat-searching chat bot?

"Decide if" is ~~poor~~ wrong phrasing. I mean to ask if you have looked into it or have further thoughts about it.

pomsky

6:16 PM

there must be a duplicate candidate for this one: askubuntu.com/questions/1163389/bulk-change-file-extensions

Eliah Kagan

That seems like an XY problem. Are the files BitTorrent metafiles just without .torrent extensions? Or are they trying to make BitTorrent metafiles?

They seem to be saying they want to replace all the file extensions with .torrent, rather than to add .torrent.

Given that they don't know what the extensions are, that seems like it constitutes a loss of information.

Kulfy

If it's just a question asks how to add extension, I think this would help

9

Q: How to add an extension to all files via terminal

I would like to add the .zip extension to all files. I tried this, however it does not work: ls | awk '{print $1 " " $1".zip"}' | xargs mv -f

command-line bash file-extension

@EliahKagan But if a file is like blabla.png.torrent, it would ultimately be considered as torrent file. Isn't it?

Eliah Kagan

But it wouldn't be a torrent file.

Wouldn't that be like renaming a LibreOffice Writer document from .odt to .mkv? It would in some respects be treated as a video file, but it wouldn't be one.

Kulfy

Yeah. We don't know about the actual file. But as it stands as of now, I think adding extension is enough.

Or it's unclear.

Eliah Kagan

I've commented to request a clarifying edit but also with a link to the question you suggested.

Eliah Kagan

6:39 PM

unclear

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] keyboard XUbuntu: Make Shift+NumPad work like Windows By: Pawel N 3.5;

[ Natty | Sentinel ] 12.10 No sound with HDA Intel PCH By: Jean-Marc 6.5;

Zanna

@EliahKagan I think it kind of is, or at least invites answers to talk about them?

Sorry, I had no intention of dropping links and vanishing

I went through the rest of my search results and edited a bunch of titles

Eliah Kagan

I'm glad you dropped links. :)

Zanna

And did various other actions on stuff I found that seemed in dire need of attention

But I probably made loads of awful mistakes due to editing on mobile in the middle of the night

@EliahKagan sigh

Eliah Kagan

Are you on mobile?

Zanna

6:50 PM

@EliahKagan I have not had time to think about it, but I will task add it when I next turn on my laptop

@EliahKagan yes :(

Regarding those posts about shell exit codes, I have concluded that we probably don't have anything better than the post you originally mentioned. Probably any additional answers that would be useful about that should be posted there

Time to sleep

Hope I didn't destroy the front page with all those edits

I was too grumpy about nobody who interacted with these posts previously editing titles like "help with script" or "Subprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" (can that be somehow banned as a title?)

Time to sleep D:

I've just had a possibly terrible idea

The post with that title should exist

And it should ask how to find meaningful errors in APT's output

So that we get properly titled questions and people can write better search terms for their APT issues

Eliah Kagan

7:05 PM

Would you like to post a self-answered question with that title?

Zanna

7:27 PM

I'll task add that too

Kulfy

7:50 PM

NAA

Lemme try with Natty

@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/688138/816190

Natty

[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Contains Blacklisted Word - i need; Ends with ?; Low Length; No Code Block; One Line only; IntelliBL - 0.0; Low Rep; 6.5;

Kulfy

Is it really a dupe?

Any dupe target for this?

This won't help. I think.

Is turnkey Linux another Ubuntu based distro?

If yes, this should be off-topic.

Kulfy

8:35 PM

dupe

Kulfy

8:54 PM

3 answer which have +1 looks like inspired from one another askubuntu.com/q/436546/816190