Charcoal HQ

SmokeDetector

12:02

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body (1): Is there possibility to add custom attribute for link in ckeditor? ✏️ by Pratik on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): What is the syntax for writing comments in build.gradle file? by Işık Karotculuk on stackoverflow.com

tripleee

!!/watch karotcu\.ist

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 10206d3 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of karotcu\.ist by tripleee) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

SmokeDetector

12:16

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, body starts with title and ends in url, pattern-matching product name in body, +4 more (686): www.megasupplementmart.com/supercut-keto/ by ericrhillip on wordpress.SE

tpu- feedback received

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in body, potentially bad keyword in body (69): Best honeymoon place in india by Websolution on travel.SE

tpu- feedback received

tripleee

!!/watch ecommerceservices\.co\.in

SmokeDetector

@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Potentially bad keyword in body and Potentially bad keyword in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.

tripleee

!!/blacklist-keyword-force supercut(?:\W?keto)?

SmokeDetector

@tripleee That pattern looks like it's already caught by Bad keyword in body and Bad keyword in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev beeef23 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of supercut(?:\W?keto)? by tripleee) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer (171): Is there a list of wizard spells by level by school? by Ariana Antonio Grande on rpg.SE

tpu- feedback received

SmokeDetector

12:46

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Angular 4 checkbox change value by jaswinder singh on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, potentially problematic ns configuration in answer (2): Does wire diameter affect the electricity bill? by Swaprecharge on electronics.SE (@TetsuyaYamamoto)

tpu- feedback received

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Misleading link (17): k means Exploration by Saad Javed on robotics.SE

API quota rolled over with 8968 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.

stackoverflow: 155
math: 141
askubuntu: 42
superuser: 33
unix: 31
english: 25
physics: 25
ell: 25
salesforce: 24
rpg: 21
serverfault: 20
electronics: 20
mathoverflow.net: 18
dba: 17
softwareengineering: 12
sharepoint: 12
security: 11
puzzling: 11
diy: 10
wordpress: 10
scifi: 10
sqa: 9
hermeneutics: 8
money: 8
gis: 8
movies: 8
raspberrypi: 8
gaming: 7
workplace: 7
networkengineering: 7
aviation: 7
magento: 7
gardening: 7
photo: 6
buddhism: 6
ru.stackoverflow: 6
mathematica: 6
worldbuilding: 6
drupal: 6

naa- feedback received on Angular 4 checkbox change value [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in username, blacklisted user (72): Did Zelda die in breath of the wild? by Byekhen on scifi.SE (@Mithrandir)

tpu- feedback received

tripleee

!!/blacklist-username (?-i:^Byekhen$)

SmokeDetector

@tripleee An invalid pattern was provided, please check your command.

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev ee67151 (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of (?-i:^Byekhen$) by tripleee) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Mithrandir

13:02

@SmokeDetector Hmph. My flag requesting the destruction of the user last time was declined...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially problematic ns configuration in body (1): Skype Call Recorder in Debian 7.1: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found ✏️ by drozas on unix.SE

fp- feedback received

tripleee

@Mithrandir which is good because now they got the blacklisted user score, no?

Mithrandir

Well yes but actually no, because less blocks on the IP

@SmokeDetector k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): Active x support in IE11 by Lisa on stackoverflow.com

tpu- feedback received

tripleee

!!/watch techpout\.com

SmokeDetector

13:10

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 8cd159f (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of techpout\.com by tripleee) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

SmokeDetector

13:22

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive title detected (53): [Python3]Replacing shit tons of string in a list by Bora on stackoverflow.com

fp- feedback received

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): What's the duration of a In-App Purchase Promo Code for Auto-Renewable Subscription's? by Jordy van den Aardweg on apple.SE

Suraj Rao

@SmokeDetector edited out

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): how to create .mp4 video file from multiple still images by user3103078 on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Please review my drunken master concept ✏️ by user1747281 on rpg.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): Transportation in Netherlands: to and around Amsterdam by Taxi Guest on travel.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): zsh right-justify in ps1 by Roman Perepelitsa on superuser.com

SmokeDetector

13:54

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, potentially bad keyword in answer (80): Strange pattern matching with functions instancing Show by This is spaaaaartaaa on stackoverflow.com

tpu- feedback received

fp- feedback received on What's the duration of a In-App Purchase Promo Code for Auto-Renewable Subscription's? [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): how to count the number of rows in text file and add that number at bottom of the text file by doing scripting by Akshay on stackoverflow.com

fp- feedback received

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in body (1): Kindle Fire HD 8.9 not getting unbricked after going into fastboot mode by a deleted user on android.SE (@AndrewT.)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): How to get Flycheck (using clang_complete) to recognize the the OpenGL framework on Mojave by C. Onnebrink on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer (80): Signing certificate not found: CN=********.server.domain.com in Thinktecture by Kevin H. on stackoverflow.com

naa- feedback received

SmokeDetector

14:20

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Experienced QA/SDET, wondering if this is a good career move by Lau on sqa.SE

naa feedback received on How to get Flycheck (using clang_complete) to recognize the the OpenGL framework on Mojave [MS]

fp- feedback received on zsh right-justify in ps1 [MS]

tpu- feedback received on Transportation in Netherlands: to and around Amsterdam [MS]

Machavity

!!/watch taxikostenberekenen\.nl

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev a477549 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of taxikostenberekenen\.nl by Machavity) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

naa feedback received on how to create .mp4 video file from multiple still images [MS]

fp- feedback received on Please review my drunken master concept [MS]

fp- feedback received

fp- feedback received on k means Exploration [MS]

fp- feedback received on How can we limit the box with drawRect() to Square in onTouch event [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in body (1): random squares images chrome by SHax on superuser.com

fp- feedback received on How this function is built? [MS]

tpu- feedback received on AJAX submit on multiple input field w/ edit & save button [MS]

fp- feedback received on Add culture to routes in asp.net MVC [MS]

tpu- feedback received on What is the syntax for writing comments in build.gradle file? [MS]

fp- feedback received on Is there possibility to add custom attribute for link in ckeditor? [MS]

fp- feedback received

fp- feedback received on Kindle Fire HD 8.9 not getting unbricked after going into fastboot mode [MS]

SmokeDetector

14:58

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev d63a510 (Makyen: Remove Socket Science -autopull) (running on teward/Solar Flare)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in answer (1): Книги, документация, статьи и курсы по Go by Денис on ru.stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ip for hostname in body (1): Purchase Status of an In-App purchase is 'null' by Niko Kreisz on stackoverflow.com

SmokeDetector

15:17

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body (1): Socket.io - Message is not when user joins a room by Manan on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body, toxic body detected (65): Strange behaviour of tabcontrol in Windows, all tabs appear twice ✏️ by mono_better_than_windoof on stackoverflow.com

fp- feedback received

fp- feedback received on Socket.io - Message is not when user joins a room [MS]

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev 410e02b (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of (?-i:o1eHKf-dMwo) by Makyen) (running on Makyen/EC2-linux)

SmokeDetector

15:44

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body, potentially problematic ns configuration in body (2): Mage registry key already exist error "_singleton/plumbase/feed" by Ahmed Adil on magento.SE

fp- feedback received

SmokeDetector

16:02

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Bootstrap CSS: Maintain card height when browser dimensions change by committer on stackoverflow.com

fp- feedback received

naa- feedback received on Книги, документация, статьи и курсы по Go [MS]

fp- feedback received on Purchase Status of an In-App purchase is 'null' [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad keyword in answer, username similar to website in answer (118): Wrong VB gridview row edit index issue when displaying sub total by wuschools on stackoverflow.com

tpu- feedback received

Machavity

16:24

!!/blacklist-website wuschools\.com

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 7b531dc (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of wuschools\.com by Machavity) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Machavity

!!/watch (?-i:^Muhammad Waqar$)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev c378920 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of (?-i:^Muhammad Waqar$) by Machavity) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted website in answer, link at end of answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (239): Are there any English words pronounced with consonants that aren't part of the spelling? by karlyshey on english.SE

tpu- feedback received

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted website in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (179): Existence of algebraic integers with certain properties by fahadjutt on mathoverflow.net

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body, mostly punctuation marks in body (121): A question regarding tensors ✏️ by Korra on physics.SE

tpu- feedback received on Existence of algebraic integers with certain properties [MS]

tp- feedback received

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body (1): How to Libfreenect through network by Manuel Costanzo on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body, potentially bad ns for domain in body (2): Undetected Trojan: what type of Scheduled task is this? by Jeronimo on security.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username (92): Extract IP address from an html string (python) by tdsan on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username (92): Trimming text files from command line (Windows) ✏️ by tdsan on stackoverflow.com

Machavity

17:09

@SmokeDetector fpu-

SmokeDetector

fp- feedback received

fp- feedback received on Undetected Trojan: what type of Scheduled task is this? [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body (94): How to add dash sign into regex ✏️ by Antonio on stackoverflow.com

tp- feedback received

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Toxic answer detected (80): /bin /etc /lib64 /root /sbin deleted or moved by mv folder/* /* while su by Ayla Masy on unix.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): What's the difference in franchise law in Canada vs. the USA by Lindsey on english.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in body (1): How to make PCL Library and Python-pcl run on Ubuntu 18.04.2? by dh81 on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev c378920 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of (?-i:^Muhammad Waqar$) by Machavity) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse, Python 3.6.7)

Restart: API quota is 16482.

naa- feedback received on /bin /etc /lib64 /root /sbin deleted or moved by mv folder/* /* while su [MS]

tpu- feedback received on What's the difference in franchise law in Canada vs. the USA [MS]

Jeff Schaller

17:31

!! /notify 96491 unix.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector !! /notify 96491 unix.stackexchange.com

I ... guess that worked?

@SmokeDetector !!/willbenotified 96491 unix.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector !! /willbenotified 96491 unix.stackexchange.com

Makyen

@JeffSchaller You have a space between the !! and the /notify, so SmokeDetector did not recognize it as a command. It should be !!/notify.

Jeff Schaller

@Makyen thank you! I mis-read charcoal-se.org/smokey/Commands

!!/notify 96491 unix.stackexchange.com

SmokeDetector

@JeffSchaller You'll now get pings from me if I report a post on unix.stackexchange.com, in room 96491 on chat.stackexchange.com

Jeff Schaller

huzzah

Makyen

@JeffSchaller Yeah, the font/kerning there really makes it look like there's a space. I usually use github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/wiki/Commands, which is the same text, but with different formatting.

Jeff Schaller

17:41

@Makyen excellent, thanks again! I'm a moderator at U&L, so I'm checking this out as a way to keep the site clean and (hopefully!) provide useful feedback to ... this mechanism. Still reading/learning what the pieces are, here.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started in standby mode at rev 45d03cb (SmokeDetector: Auto blacklist of litextension\.com by tripleee) (running on iBug/DeepSea)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body (1): How to Libfreenect through network ✏️ by Manuel Costanzo on stackoverflow.com

Makyen

@JeffSchaller Great! We'd certainly like your participation and would like to work with you.

If you're interested, we have several userscripts which work with SmokeDetector/metasmoke. For feedback & viewing in chat, I find FIRE and AIM to be the ones I use the most. As I understand it, SIM provides useful information for moderators on site pages.

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SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body (96): On button click open the chat window for saleforce customer chat support by Sandy on stackoverflow.com

Jeff Schaller

@Makyen what, no READY? :)

Catija

... who can adjust how many autoflags can be cast on a site?

@ArtOfCode and @Undo I assume?

Makyen

17:51

@JeffSchaller nice! You know, that's the first time I've seen that connection made. Now, we will have to make one, just because. :-)

ArtOfCode

@Catija can't remember if that one was admin or dev. Anyway, I can :)

Catija

@ArtOfCode Not an immediate change but we'll be upping ELU to 6 spam or r/a flags for deletion, so once that change happens, you can remove the special casing for their auto flags.

ArtOfCode

@Makyen pretty sure there is one... can't remember who or where though. @Glorfindel maybe?

Jeff Schaller

@Makyen happy to help! I'm seeing lots of "privileged" command lists; is there anything I can do at the moment to help? I'm expecting some sort of "good job, robot" or "not spam" feedback, but they're listed under "Privileged commands as reply"

ArtOfCode

@Catija okay, cool. Give us a ping when it happens?

Catija

17:53

Definitely. :D

Makyen

@JeffSchaller As a moderator, you are automatically "privileged".

Jeff Schaller

or if you have a "so you wanna help? 101" doc to point me at -- I'm currently going through the "Project Links" list

Glorfindel

@ArtOfCode it's READi and it's an iOS app: github.com/NobodyNada/READi

Jeff Schaller

@Makyen oh! I assumed there was a user list that the robot knows about

Glorfindel

I'm still using it now and then, it's pretty handy on the go.

@Catija sounds like a plan (the site doesn't see much more spam than several others). What about The Workplace?

Jeff Schaller

17:57

@SmokeDetector !!/amiprivileged

sniff

Makyen

@JeffSchaller Without the @SmokeDetector

ArtOfCode

@JeffSchaller charcoal-se.org/training

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Jeff Schaller

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@JeffSchaller ✓ You are a privileged user.

Jeff Schaller

@Makyen thanks again!

@ArtOfCode thank you, also!

Catija

17:58

@Glorfindel Hmmm. I'll probably need to ask. It came up natively (thanks) on ELU and got some little support... but getting rid of special cases is always useful and Charcoal seems to make it less necessary... that said, TWP may get more R/A posts that wouldn't get caught by smokey... So I think it'll need a bit of discussion.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, potentially bad keyword in answer, toxic answer detected (160): Where can I find this JS visual effect? ✏️ by Nicholas Labrecque on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, potentially bad keyword in answer, toxic answer detected (160): Ionic HttpClient not sending data ✏️ by Nicholas Labrecque on stackoverflow.com

Makyen

@ArtOfCode Thanks. That's where that page was. I was looking, but I didn't find it in my bookmarks. Now I will. :-)

Glorfindel

@Catija Smokey detects most R/A posts too, just not to autoflagging levels.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (86): Should offensive/vulgar usernames be banned? by Cyber Ghost on ux.SE

Catija

@Glorfindel Yeah, but the stuff that is r/a on sites like IPS and TWP isn't always... based on regex.

Glorfindel

18:00

Unless the abuse is very subtle, but then I'd prefer mod flags than straight R/A flags anyway.

Catija

Anyway, I'll ask.

SmokeDetector

tpu- feedback received

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in title (1): F@CKING RETARDS ✏️ by Nicholas Labrecque on stackoverflow.com

tpu- feedback received on Where can I find this JS visual effect? [MS]

tpu- feedback received on Ionic HttpClient not sending data [MS]

Glorfindel

@Catija this reason is based on an external API (Perspective IIRC) and detects much stuff the regexes don't.

thanks in advance for asking :)

Makyen

!!/watch- cybergoldpro(?:@(?:gmail|outlook)\.com)?

!!/watch- cybergoldprofessional

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 6460237 (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of cybergoldpro(?:@(?:gmail|outlook)\.com)? by Makyen) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

Jeff Schaller

18:03

@ArtOfCode may I suggest adding that link to charcoal-se.org/smokey ? (I don't know who owns what around here, yet)

ArtOfCode

@Makyen Probably needs updating, actually - it doesn't list you as an admin, for one

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklists reloaded at rev 297490e (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of cybergoldprofessional by Makyen) (running on teward/Lunar Eclipse)

ArtOfCode

@JeffSchaller Aye, that'd be smart

TL;DR: who owns what - admins (me, Undo, angussidney, Andy, tripleee, Makyen) have pretty much full access to just about everything. metasmoke developers (me, Undo, thesecretmaster) have even higher access. Undo runs metasmoke and has most control, but that's usually unnecessary.

thesecretmaster also has admin access by way of having dev access, but isn't an admin in the organisational sense

Jeff Schaller

I just didn't mean to put the responsibility on you, if you didn't own that domain

ArtOfCode

@JeffSchaller Sure, I appreciate that. That's just a bit of a broader overview.

Quite a bit of charcoal-se.org is generated from GH wikis, which makes it fairly easy to update

Jeff Schaller

18:09

sounds like I found some smart people! I'm off to Charcoal training class :)

hopefully I graduate before U&L sees the next spam

lol!

> we want to make sure you’re sane and have at least some experience of Stack Exchange and community moderation

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): How to install dotCMS on mac by Paige Ruppel on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer (1): Pre-80s book about very expensive oil; only farmers and the army have it by Tim on scifi.SE (@Mithrandir)

naa- feedback received

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body (1): Need a common wire ✏️ by Pat on diy.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body (99): When trying to install a package I get "npm ERR! 400 Bad Request - GET registry.npmjs.org/create-react-app" ✏️ by Alasia Puckett on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer, repeating characters in answer (265): EV3 Brick Error Symbols? by funstuff on bricks.SE

tpu- feedback received

Jeff Schaller

18:28

At charcoal-se.org/training/privileges#reporting it says "Report posts that would be “red-flaggable” on the site. That is, if it could be spam- or abusive-flagged, you can report it to Smokey." (1) is this a "thing"?, and if so (2) it's curious to me that this is the first inclusion of "(rude or) abusive" as a category. Is MS focused on spam as I'm initially seeing, or more NAA's?

I guess I shouldn't broaden it to NAA's, but the "delete me delete me delete me delete me delete me" example on the spam page ... "isn't spam", so I'm trying to figure out the target

@JeffSchaller by "is this a thing" I'm wondering: do people proactively provide these reports, or should I move on

Mithrandir

Anything that's red-flaggable is fair game for Smokey.

Only spam and rude/abusive posts. I'm not sure what you're seeing on MS, but it often picks up false positives.

Makyen

@JeffSchaller Yes, people proactively provide such reports, which helps significantly for posts which SmokeDetector doesn't catch on its own. Yes, SmokeDetector is intended to catch spam and rude/abusive posts. While we don't focus on NAA, we do see them, as they match some of our detections. For the humans, SD/MS has "NAA" feedback, but for metasmoke's actions in autoflagging it's treated the same as FP (false positive) and the project specifically doesn't issue NAA flags.

@JeffSchaller The overall criteria for feedback is: "If SmokeDetector was implemented as a system-level block, would we want to catch this type of activity?" If it should be blocked at a system level, then it's a TP, if not it's FP (or NAA).

terdon

Huh. I just noticed that AU had 3x more autoflags than SO these past three months. (AU, SO).

Jeff Schaller

I'm at the bottom of the learning curve, here, trying to get my feet on the steps :) TP and FP are still new :) I don't expect to be proactively sending reports, particularly on U&L; just trying to figure out what's useful/current/valid.

terdon

Does that mean AU was getting 3 times more spam than SO!?

Mithrandir

18:42

@terdon SO doesn't see nearly as much pharma spam.

terdon

Still. I was expecting SO to be the primary spam target since it's by far the largest.

Mithrandir

You have to register to post on SO, no?

terdon

Ah, point. I think you do these days, yes.

Also, something's off. SO has _"There have been 1 249 attempts to cast flags automatically on Stack Overflow in the last 3 months."_ and AU _"
There have been 3 877 attempts to cast flags automatically on Ask Ubuntu in the last 3 months."_ but SO shows 51,109 posts caught versus AU's 19,952.

So I guess the number of autoflag attempts doesn't accurately represent the spam volume.

Mithrandir

You have a space in between"AU" and the "_".

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially bad ns for domain in answer, username similar to website in answer (118): CSS Not Working with Wordpress Custom Menus by karbarwp on stackoverflow.com

Mithrandir

18:46

SO also gets a heck of a lot more FPs caught.

Oh, right, it's a multiline message. Formatting doesn't work in those.

Makyen

@JeffSchaller TP is True Positive = the post is something we'd want to block on the system level (e.g. it's spam or rude/abusive, but also vandalism & plagiarism). FP is False Positive = something we shouldn't block on the system level. NAA is a type of FP that is easier for us humans to assign.

Note: While plagiarism is a TP, it's not something that this project is specifically looking for. Thus, it's TP when detected, but not something that should be manually reported to SmokeDetector.

@JeffSchaller A post that is edited into "delete me delete me delete me delete me delete me" would be considered vandalism, which normally gets tp feedback, as it's something we'd want to block at a system level.

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mithrandir actually, I think that you need to log in to ask on SO, you can answer without registering

Mithrandir

(Also, kinda crazy that Charcoal has cast nearly 164,000 autoflags. I wonder what percentage of all red flags in that timespan that is.)

@EriktheOutgolfer most (all?) pharma spam is questions

Erik the Outgolfer

most spam is questions because that's what appears at the top ;P

Makyen

@SmokeDetector This just repeats the minimum information from the other answer, which was posted 7 years ago, and adds a spam link to the user's site.

Erik the Outgolfer

18:52

the link to get to the answer from the Home page is just a small timestamp to the bottom-right of the post in the All Questions list, while the link to the question is a big title

terdon

@Mithrandir yes, I wanted the text after it to be italicized. Like In AU "the grass is greener".

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body (1): DMZ Server Reverse Proxy to Internal Server IIS Site (502 Bad Gateway Error) by R. Stevens on stackoverflow.com

terdon

@Mithrandir AAaahh! Of course. I was copy/pasting so the newline came with. It does work if the text just naturally flows onto the next line because you just have so much to say it can't all fit on one teeny-weeny little single-line message and instead overflows majestically onto the

you get the point.

Mithrandir

*wry grin*

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in body (1): Is my Data stationary? KPSS, ADF Tests and ACF by Quentio on stats.SE

Erik the Outgolfer

18:55

"just naturally flows onto the next line because you just have so much to say it can't all fit on one teeny-weeny little single-line message and instead overflows majestically onto the... you get the point." is commonly called just "wrapped"... :D

terdon

@EriktheOutgolfer What, are you into golfing or somethi... ah, right. Nice username!

:P

Erik the Outgolfer

more like it's not really some weird form of black magic but eh

terdon

Hang on, you're Greek! You don't get to be Greek and complain about long words or sentences!

Erik the Outgolfer

το λακωνίζειν εστί φιλοσοφείν

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terdon

19:00

@EriktheOutgolfer Νομίζεις!

Heh, I only just connected your two usernames. I'd noticed you on AU because of the Greek name, and I'd seen the outgolfer around but didn't know you were the same user.

Erik the Outgolfer

yeah, I'm not very new :D

terdon

No, you're not. It's just funny cause I happened to be aware of both usernames but hadn't realized they were the same :)

By the way, are you looking for a job by any chance?

Erik the Outgolfer

nah, maybe in a few years :P

terdon

Πιτσιρικάς είσαι; :P

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Erik the Outgolfer

19:06

lol guess how that would sound in English

"Are you a kiddo? :P"

terdon

Just kid :)

Well, if you are one and you already have 35k rep on Code Golf, good for you!

Erik the Outgolfer

actually that raising quite slowly

Mithrandir

You're like my age, aren't you?

Erik the Outgolfer

yeah

terdon

@Mithrandir You point being, kid? :P

Erik the Outgolfer

19:09

well, late teens tbf

not exactly "kid"

Mithrandir

@terdon old geezer

terdon

Turnaround's fair play!

Mithrandir

*spins around in a circle* Like that? :P

If you get any two SE mods in the same room, eventually there will be puns. No getting around it.

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Erik the Outgolfer

(pretty sure Mith has missed the reference... :D)

ArtOfCode

19:14

@terdon nope - "reports by site" graph on metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/graphs

Mithrandir

@EriktheOutgolfer (Who says? Maybe I'm just counterpointing with a pun.)

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user (70): Ionic *ngFor not updating ✏️ by Nicholas Labrecque on stackoverflow.com

Mithrandir

FTR, I have heard the idiom before.

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user (70): Sending JSON data from Ionic 3 to node.js server by Nicholas Labrecque on stackoverflow.com

terdon

@Mithrandir If you get any two SE mods in the same room, eventually they will be spun.

SmokeDetector

19:17

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Erik the Outgolfer

ouch

terdon

@ArtOfCode That makes more sense. So how come there were so many more autoflags on AU? I can't imagine SO is faster than smokey.

Loong

@terdon Pauli exclusion principle?

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Erik the Outgolfer

@SmokeDetector Um... not sure what to do here... fixable but intentional...

SmokeDetector

19:18

fp- feedback received on Ionic *ngFor not updating [MS]

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, potentially bad keyword in body (100): How To Earn Bitcoin With Crypto Tab? by Respati ID on bitcoin.SE

tpu- feedback received

rene

@EriktheOutgolfer we've mod flagged. I directed that user to MSO but that didn't go well either

ArtOfCode

@terdon sometimes it is. It's usually just that SO spam is less obvious

rene

@ArtOfCode would you mind yelling in the TL room for some SO mods to attend to the abussive edits made by a user. I have a pending flag on one of their posts. It is back and forth for 30 minutes now.

Makyen

19:37

@SmokeDetector This report is detects the original answer, which is FP (reparable). It's not detecting the rollback which the user later made to the post, which, if it was what was detected, might be considered to be TP. What is added is quite minor, so I'm not really sure we should be blocking it, unlike the user's vandalism of some of their other posts to be R/A. If we're looking at the user's overall activity, then blocking the rollback would be reasonable, but that's not what was detected.

Jeff Schaller

@rene I happened to see this and pinged an SO mod there

rene

thanks

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20:03

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly punctuation marks in body (27): Solución Fatal Error by José Luis Juárez Flores on es.stackoverflow.com

Jeff Schaller

@rene problem ... "solved"? stackoverflow.com/users/8733157/nicholas-labrecque 404's now

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rene

@JeffSchaller it looks like it. But the user delete batch job probably took care of it. My flag is still pending.

@JeffSchaller it took all posts with it. But not much value is lost.

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Jeff Schaller

@rene hmm! something else I don't know about SE. I would have assumed that deleting a post would clear the flags on it.

maybe moderator/custom flags don't clear

Makyen

20:15

@JeffSchaller Deletion marks most flags as helpful, but doesn't clear the custom moderator flags.

Erik the Outgolfer

exactly

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body (1): Parse Error: no element found - parsing xlsm by donna ly on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): How do I prevent a third party app from accessing my GMail? by Jugaari bros on webapps.SE

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Glorfindel

20:34

!!/allspam stackexchange.com/users/16000755/jugaari-bros

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (batch report: post 2 out of 3) (93): Can someone recommend me a good software by which I can easily make mod apk? by Jugaari bros on softwarerecs.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question (batch report: post 3 out of 3) (93): How to download a video from Facebook in High Quality by Jugaari bros on softwarerecs.SE

Glorfindel

!!/test-q fineapkapps.com

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Glorfindel

!!/watch- fineapkapps\.com

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Glorfindel

20:38

!!/test-q ytbconverterfree.com

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> Potentially bad ns for domain in body, potentially bad keyword in body
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Potentially bad keyword in body - Position 0-20: ytbconverterfree.com
Potentially bad ns for domain in body - ytbconverterfree.com NS suspicious dns1.namecheaphosting.com.,dns2.namecheaphosting.com.

tpu- feedback received on How do I prevent a third party app from accessing my GMail? [MS]

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): non-member about header privates by implor on stackoverflow.com

Machavity

@Glorfindel Apple, y u convert for free?

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Makyen

Oh yeah... forgot to add that. :-) Thanks.

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user (70): Is the "Maximize data throughput for network applications" setting still valid on Windows 2008? by Smirk24 on serverfault.com

New metasmoke user 'Kusalananda' created

Jeff Schaller

21:02

oh ho! a fellow U&L moderator racing ahead of me :)

SmokeDetector

21:13

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body (60): How do I keep all values from LEFT OUTER JOIN table when using SUM as one of the retrieved tables, and why does GROUP BY seem to fix the issue? by Nicknation on stackoverflow.com

fp- feedback received

Catija

0

A: Our help page incorrectly states that it takes 6 spam / abuse flags to delete a post

I've looked at your recently deleted posts and there's very few that were deleted as spam or abusive - in general, you average about 1-2 per day from what I can tell, which isn't a lot, and far fewer than other sites on the network get. After thinking it over a bit and talking with people about ...

rene

> There probably are enough flags now on the posts of this user but in case this gets missed: can you roll back and lock until the delete account request of this user is handled (assuming that is actually what they have opted for) – rene 1 hour ago helpful - account was auto-deleted...

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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body (1): Can a human be intellectual property? ✏️ by William Verish on stats.SE

ArtOfCode

@Catija and done

Catija

Lovely! Thanks!

SmokeDetector

21:26

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rene

@SmokeDetector for the phone number and for not answering the question

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Makyen

21:46

!!/pull

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