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tchrist
tchrist
2:21 AM
@Mitch I don’t feel up to providing the titty question with an answer, so please feel free to run with my hints.
 
Mitch
Mitch
2:31 AM
Tits?
Sad-sacks?
 
tchrist
tchrist
@tchrist Your "If it's Greek you want" comment is screaming to be made into an actual answer. — Mitch 2 days ago
@SvenYargs If it’s Greek you want, while mas­tos (μαστός) is just a sin­gle teat, stethos (στῆθος) is the en­tire bo­som in full. There’s also bathukolpian, bathy­colpian < βαθύκολπος, both of which al­ready ex­ist—but per­haps you might set­tle for cal­lis­tet­hous for the Bac­trian ver­sion or cal­li­mas­tian for the dromedary. Speak­ing of which, Latin and her chil­dren have sup­plied English with a huge whole lot of words about this that no­body has men­tioned yet, like mam­mate, mam­meated, mamel­onated. Tec­tonic is quite nice once you strike its spu­ri­ous let­ter.:) — tchrist ♦ Dec 30 '18 at 3:34
Plus I put a bunch of other ideas here, somewhat context-free.
 
Mitch
Mitch
@tchrist Oh. Haha. I knew I had said something like that to you but couldn't for the life of me remember where it was.
 
tchrist
tchrist
The (transliterated) Greek word for breast is mastos, but the only common English word that incorporates that word as a description of a shape is mastodon, the genus of prehistoric elephant named for the shape of their teeth. You can see an example of a fossil mastodon tooth here. According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, fifth edition (2010), one meaning of mastoid is "Shaped like a breast or nipple," but the word isn't widely used in this sense in everyday English, as far as I know. — Sven Yargs Dec 30 '18 at 3:03
> “And I am sure that Mr Emerald will interrupt briefly his investigation of some mammate student’s resilient charms to deny with the vigor of roused virility that he ever gave anybody a lift to my house that evening.”

—Vladimir Vladimirovich Nabokov
And why would you use mammate instead of chesty, I ask you!
Because you’re VVNabokov, is why.
 
Mitch
Mitch
2:56 AM
@tchrist done
 
Mitch
Mitch
3:10 AM
@tchrist that's not exactly the shape, just implicative?
 
Jasper
Jasper
After a graphics driver update, my new laptop gave me a black screen when I start it. Still trying to figure out what to do. Resetting PC does not help. Can't even enter safe mode now. Very sad. May need to send for repair...
 
Mitch
Mitch
'pneumatic' was the goofy Aldous Huxley (or mis 20th c) euphemism
@Jasper That's tough.
Wait..can you read this?
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Mitch Oh, I had meant as a real answer, but ok.
 
Mitch
Mitch
mlah mlah mlah
 
Jasper
Jasper
@Mitch Yes, I am typing from my old laptop on which I installed Linux.
 
Mitch
Mitch
3:12 AM
@tchrist Formatting isn't good enough for a real answer?
@Jasper Oh. nice. always keep a backup.
don't burn bridges
 
Jasper
Jasper
@Mitch I really don't know what is wrong man. I took great care of all the hardware and software...
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Mitch I limited my text because of the comment-length restrictions. Otherwise it would have had OED citations, etc.
But at least now it’s searchable, so thanks.
 
Mitch
Mitch
I don't know what to say. I've heard that that is the one difficulty with linux, the drivers for hardware
 
Jasper
Jasper
@Mitch No, it's the new laptop with Windows that is the problem now...
 
Mitch
Mitch
@tchrist well, yeah, I could give etymonline and stuff for those that have them too but you see how long it took me for the minimal formatting.
@Jasper Oh. hm.
can you google for the problem on your working machine?
 
tchrist
tchrist
3:15 AM
Thj OED says bathy­colpian is the more common spelling of bathukolpian. Both mean deep-bosomed.
 
Mitch
Mitch
most common?
 
Jasper
Jasper
@Mitch Yes, tried many things already. But not going to try all 9000 combinations because that will make anyone nuts. In fact, I was thinking of installing Linux on it, but I can't even do that after googling for how to do that, LOL.
 
tchrist
tchrist
No. That would be superlative degree. The OED uses comparative, for there are but two.
 
Mitch
Mitch
I'm reading Lynne Murphy's The Prodigal Tongue. (AmE vs BrE no holds barred brawl)
 
tchrist
tchrist
> bathyˈcolpian adj. Brit. /ˌbaθᵻˈkɒlpɪən/, U.S. /ˌbæθəˈkɑlpiən/ a more normal form of bathukolpian adj.
 
Jasper
Jasper
3:18 AM
@Mitch Anyway, I just hope my old laptop can last for many more months, because I don't think I can find the solution to the new laptop soon. See you!
 
tchrist
tchrist
> < Greek βαθύκολπος ( < βαθύς deep + κόλπος breast, bosom) + -ian suffix.
 
Mitch
Mitch
argh. one-box it man!
@Jasper later
good luck
bonne chance?
 
 
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SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
5:43 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, potentially problematic ns configuration in answer (61): What does this quote mean: "Why is this thus? And what is the reason for this thusness? by graicy on english.SE
 
 
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SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
7:21 AM
 
 
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Færd
Færd
1:32 PM
It's usually receipt of, not the/a receipt of.
> He set off upon receipt of the message.
Roughly speaking, maybe the general rule is that this kind of NOUN+OF structure is preceded by a determiner. But there are many exceptions to this.
One important category of the exceptions is phrases like in control of, in violation of, in anticipation of, etc, where it's as tho in negates the need for an article.
There are also many others: lack of, control of, want of, proof of, etc, can appear in (set) phrases without any articles or determiners. That's in contrast with phrases like assassination of Kennedy or cancellation of the game, which aren't really complete without a the or something preceding them. This, I guess, represents the rule.
I can't quite formulate the question and the ideas I have about it accurately.
 
 
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tchrist
tchrist
3:48 PM
> Facedwiththecountlesstreatisesandarchives—sorry, I forgot the spaces, the blanks. I was going to let myself go writing, as was done in antiquity, in scriptio continua.
> Faced with the countless treatises and archives handed down by the tradition, I was saying, I feel a bit like the entomologist William Legrand, one of the characters in Poe’s “The Gold-Bug,” who has to go through many a trial before he can get his hands on what he is looking for. Once one has got it into one’s head, as I have, to compile a pocket history of punctuation without being in any way a seasoned philologist, well versed in the difficulties in deciphering Egyptian hieroglyphs or manuscripts from Greco-Roman antiquity, one has every chance of finding oneself perplexed before what w…
Excerpted from Of Stigmatology: Punctuation as Experience, by Peter Szendy and Jan Plug.
Oh interesting, Szendy was the author, Plug the translator.
> This book was first published in French as À Coups de points: La Ponctuation comme expérience, by Peter Szendy © Les Éditions de Minuit, 2013.
It just came out in English a few months ago.
Ekphrasis is a strange spelling, harkening more to Greek ἔκϕρασις than to Latin ecphrasis.
 
 
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RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
6:09 PM
@tchrist so the entire original Punctuation lineup are dead and all we're left with is The Punctuation Experience? That explains so many things.
It's a bummer really. They had some decent songs.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
6:36 PM
OMG my brilliant artistic expression has been deleted from the star wall!
 
Jasper
Jasper
I did not star it.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Very good.
 
 
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RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
8:22 PM
@tchrist that is true of every instrument where different voices are assigned to the two arms, it's just that aside from percussion, we don't have that many of those. Basically just keyboards and that's it. But piano literature will have you play 4 against 9 or 6 against 11 all the time. Maybe not for prolonged periods of time, and maybe 3:4 or 3:2 is much more common, but both of that is also true of Western percussion literature as well.
As a piano player you will know that achieving independence of one hand from another is not a superstellar skill, but the basic foundation of it all.
Frankly if anything I'm finding it harder to have both hands play perfectly in sync. I really started noticing that with the violin. You'd think the guitar would demand that as well, but it's actually very forgiving.
And the really evil thing is that "in sync" really means "with a very specific offset", but different bow strokes (and even different speeds of the same bow stroke) demand different offsets. So you spend months painstakingly internalizing a very specific offset, but then they throw the next bow stroke at you and you have to painstakingly unlearn it all again.
I imagine it will be even funnier for winds, where you have to synchronize the hands not just with one another, but also with your lips, tongue, and breath.
Must be a nightmare. Frankly I'd rather take a stick in each hand and make one play 7 beats to the other's 19.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@RegDwigнt Those are often handled by the simple expediency of aligning the start/end points of a run and making them all fit a time, whether that be a measure, a beat, two beats, whatever.
Sometimes a bit of rubato makes them work as well.
Listen to Elvin Jones's playing on A Love Supreme for absolute independence of limbs. One of my favorite recordings ever.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
8:42 PM
@Robusto Well yes. That and the rubato are both certainly true for one-off measures like what Chopin will have you do. But you won't get far trying to play Ravel's piano transcription of the Bolero that way.
@Robusto I'm putting it on but apparently I can only comment in 32 minutes.
 
tchrist
tchrist
@RegDwigнt I just punt when Chopin makes me do that and hope it all squeezes in. :)
 
Jasper
Jasper
I wonder if there are pianos where the black keys and white keys are all arranged as one set of keys of one colour instead of two sets with two colours.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Get down, little lady.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
@tchrist thing is, you can miss half the notes, and plain not play the other half at all, and your average audience won't notice. But they will if it's a strict rhythm you have to hold for more than a bar. Just like with drums. Because rhythm is not something they listen to, rhythm is something they feel.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@RegDwigнt This one doesn't sound hard. It can be handled through a single processor.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
8:50 PM
Is my point, yes.
@Robusto that to the sound of Coltraine singing "Love Supreme" makes for an interesting experience.
 
Robusto
Robusto
No doubt.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Anyway. I can't point you to a more difficult example because I don't play things that are more difficult so I don't have one at hand. But you know the usual suspects. Liszt, Bartok.
Or really any piano reduction of an orchestra piece with whatever rhythm you fancy. There you go.
 
Robusto
Robusto
I've done some orchestral transcriptions for four hands where there were some obstinate passages like that.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Yeah. They don't make reductions of orchestra pieces for a harp or cor anglais. But pick piano and you're screwed. You get to play everything.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Liszt did those for two hands, and called them "paraphrases."
Sounded like four hands, though.
Like any Liszt.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
8:56 PM
I bet he himself just played it with one. Used the other one to drink tea. Or write music in a whole different metre entirely.
Bitches be crazy, but Liszt be kuh-rayzee. With jazz hands.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Forget the tritone, he himself was diabolus in musica.
But he wrote some really good music. Not at all the standard virtuoso fare, all flash and no pan.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I like Wikipedia's list of his skills.
> a prolific 19th-century Hungarian composer, virtuoso pianist, conductor, music teacher, arranger, organist, philanthropist, author, and nationalist.
A prolific nationalist, eh.
Sign me up.
 
Robusto
Robusto
They left out philanderer.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Das war ein anderer Phil.
 
Robusto
Robusto
laughs auf Deutsch
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
9:00 PM
lacht
 
Robusto
Robusto
I know the verb, I just thought it was funnier this way.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Interestingly German doesn't use the third-person form in this scenario. They take the infinitive and strip it off the infinitive ending.
lach
schwätz
nachdenk
dumm reinguck
 
Robusto
Robusto
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Coltraine needs another 12 minutes.
But here's a German saying for you: "An axe in the house replaces the Zimerman".
 
Robusto
Robusto
Trying to be inscrutable again.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
9:05 PM
"You don't need a carpenter if you have an axe", basically.
 
Robusto
Robusto
"When you're a German everything looks like a nail."
@RegDwigнt "Zimerman"? Not Zimmermann?
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I'm having a discussion with a German lady on Facebook right now, about a really unfunny German joke, and she is telling me that I don't have a sense of humour.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Also, Dude, that was Bob Dylan's real name.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I am fucking laughing.
@Robusto well that's the spelling you used so I had to play along.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Me not use spealing that.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
9:07 PM
@Robusto I know. You also know from whom I know it.
And yes, let me tell you, you get an axe, you don't need to listen to Bob Dylan ever again.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Don't even need an axe.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
True, not every carpenter needs a replacement.
Nicht jeder Zimmermann muß ersetzt werden.
 
Robusto
Robusto
When you're a Hammerklavier everything looks like a Nagelbett.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Che ridícolo.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Actually, everythingi is not a bad coinage.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
9:12 PM
Certainly it's spelled everithingy.
 
Robusto
Robusto
My coinage, my rules.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Dec 11 '18 at 20:53, by RegDwigнt
@Robusto Got it. Just checking.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Also, Dude, shouldn't it be Bärenbäum?
And do listen to the Liszt, especially if you've never heard that piece before.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
So Coltrane is done with his thingi now. Quite beautiful but utterly impenetrable. Like listening to Mongolian throat-chants or Georgian polyphonic singing. All I can say is "I like", but I don't have the tools to assess or the education to understand why it is good, or whether it's actually good at all.
Yes I'm moving on to the Liszt momentarily.
@Robusto that one's probably Yiddish and means something else entirely, like "trout soup".
 
Robusto
Robusto
@RegDwigнt Put it in rotation and you'll get it over time.
@RegDwigнt Or Trout Mask Replica.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
9:21 PM
@Robusto Well yes. You can't learn Chinese if you don't keep speaking it.
Fuck me, the Liszt is another 30 minutes.
Dude, what's the deal with you today.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Not everyone can write one-minute pieces, you know.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Right off the bat he gives me my favorite direction of all time. "Sotto voce".
 
Robusto
Robusto
Gotta streeeeeeeeeetch that old attention span, you lazy Internet user you.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
That's the one you can use to sort the wheat from the chaff.
 
Robusto
Robusto
I prefer risotto voce.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
9:23 PM
@Robusto I'm not demanding he write one-minute pieces, but since he's Liszt, certainly he could play it in one.
@Robusto yeah yeah you old Puccini lover.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Well, he's Liszt, and a romantic, so when did a romantic movement of a piano piece ever finish in under half an hour?
Mmmmmmm, risotto ...
Risotto
Risotto (, Italian: [riˈzɔtto] or [riˈsɔtto], from riso meaning "rice") is a northern Italian rice dish cooked with the add of broth until it reaches a rather creamy consistency. The broth can be derived from meat, fish, or vegetables. Many types of risotto contain butter, onion, white wine, and parmesan cheese. It is one of the most common ways of cooking rice in Italy. Saffron was originally used for flavour and its attractive yellow colour.Risotto in Italy is normally a first course, served on its own before the main course, but risotto alla milanese, (pronounced [riˈzɔtto alla milaˈneːse; ...
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
That's a question for 1000.
 
Robusto
Robusto
"I'm just mad about saffron ..."
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Jul 20 '18 at 21:08, by RegDwigнt
Now hand over the mustard. And careful, I don't saffron fools gladly.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Someone downvoted my atrium answer. Fuckers.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
9:26 PM
Someone unstarred my vinegar message!
 
Robusto
Robusto
I suspect Kris.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Jul 20 '18 at 21:02, by RegDwigнt
@tchrist Whoa whoa whoa. You can't get away with the N word in here just by prefixing it with a text editor.
It had like three stars.
Where is my stars.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Hmm, couldn't have been him, unless he has a sockpuppet.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
What are you, Doctor Watson now?
 
Robusto
Robusto
No, Mycroft.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
9:28 PM
Holy moly, "rallentando" in the right hand, "smorzando" in the left.
Followed by "cantando espressivo" for the one, "piano" for the other.
That was one talkative fellah that Liszt.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@RegDwigнt Yeah. Better get those limbs working independently.
BTW, did you listen to that Barenboim Pathetique I linked earlier?
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I don't think I did, unless it's one of the recordings that I own, or one from his masterclasses that I've watched.
As I said on a previous occasion, Pathetique for me is Gilels. No disrespect to the superconductor.
 
Robusto
Robusto
2 days ago, by Robusto
There's an example of a master making something new out of something old.
2 days ago, by Robusto
I'd never considered the notion of not letting the countermelody sing out its response in the B section of the first movement, but clearly that works. Its halting nature actually propels the music forward, contrary to what logic might dictate.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I'll have a look.
 
Robusto
Robusto
When I first heard that I didn't want to like it. But I was forced to listen.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
9:32 PM
I do recognize the thumbnail but not from the last couple years. And that's not a thing that I remember noticing.
Well maybe noticing but not paying attention to.
 
Robusto
Robusto
I wanted to say, "No, that doesn't really work, now does it. Because it's not how I've heard the piece before." But I couldn't. He made me sit and listen to the whole fucking thing.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I suspect I may have stopped at the "doesn't really work" part.
 
Robusto
Robusto
BTW, there is a great fugue in the B-minor sonata.
I'm listening to it now.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I'm at the 11 min mark.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Around 19:45 or so.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
9:34 PM
And it sounds distinctly Russian. Something Glinka or Borodin might write. Or Mussorgsky.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Borodin, maybe.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I know I know.
I must not compare Liszt to Mussorgsky, and not because he had zero education in anything, but because he was modest.
 
Robusto
Robusto
He had a lot to be Modest about.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I struggle to think of anyone quite as Modest as him.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Well, there's mode, moder, and Modest. Positive, comparative, and superlative.
That's why Modest is capitalized.
Christ, how does anyone ever play Liszt without going absolutely stark raving batshit crazy?
I can't even follow the notes in my ear much less in my fingers.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
9:41 PM
I cut out the middle man and just went absolutely stark raving batshit crazy to begin with.
Maybe now I could play Liszt. But I never tried.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@RegDwigнt A wise policy.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
All my policies are wise. Except the batshit crazy ones.
I have arrived at the fugue.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@RegDwigнt Oh, I had to try. Just to appreciate how impossible he really is. It's humbling to realize you will never, never, never ever play this piece of music sitting on the stand in front of you.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Why is there now an annotation telling me how Beethoven also tried this.
Liszt, or don't Liszt. There is no try.
 
Robusto
Robusto
With fermatas on the rests in the final bar. Fuck you, Franz. Seriously.
Gotta keep that stage presence.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
9:44 PM
I like how the key has five flats, but every single note has like five sharps.
Security through obscurity.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Well, you can't really play Romantic music in the same fucking key you use in the signature, now can you?
And everything has to have six sharps or flats, with plenty of double sharps and double flats to season things up.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I learned that the hard way in the past eleven months by transcribing stuff for the violin.
Nobody ever uses the key they say they do.
Drums are hard, you say. 4 against 3 is easy, you say.
There you go play this one.
And crescendo please, for everyone to hear.
 
Robusto
Robusto
And don't forget to toss your long hair theatrically.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Stretta quasi presto. Phew thank God it's only quasi. Dodged a bullet there.
I'll just play lento, then.
Well that was a nice 30 minutes, that. Now if anything it only makes me want go write four bars with three notes each, call it Aura Lea and call it a day. And make millions.
Who ever listens to 30 minutes of music. If you can listen to Aura Lea twelve times over instead.
@Robusto fermatas on the bar, but make sure the last note is but a quaver.
At first I thought they cut off the recording. But then I noticed the score.
Trololol.
 
Robusto
Robusto
10:05 PM
Sí.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Also trololol, while I was listening to that, and apparently on the very beat that we discussed Mussorgsky, that one guy uploaded this:
So I'm watching that now.
Executive summary so far: he'll be going through Ravel's orchestration in the next weeks, note by note.
Much like he did for Holst's Planets.
Ima watch the shit out that. If you don't learn orchestration from Ravel, you might as well not learn orchestration, period.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Does he do Ravel's Daphnis et Chloé?
That one is a masterpiece of orchestration.
I mean, orchestration doesn't have to involve turning piano pieces into orchestral works.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
He has a whole series on Ravel. Lots of works.
Also Lili Boulanger.
Basically all the people who knew what they were doing.
Mahler, you name it.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Mahler could orchestrate his own shit.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Well it's not really fair comparing people to Ravel, you know.
 
Robusto
Robusto
10:11 PM
Someone ought to get up the chutzpah to re-orchestrate Ravel's Le Tombeau de Couperin.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I probably will, for two violins.
And I wish I were joking.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Two violins and accordion?
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Don't give me ideas.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Harmonica. Harmonium.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Two violins, accordion, and kazoo.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
10:13 PM
I can't play the kazoo.
 
Robusto
Robusto
It would be klezmerizing.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Not that I can play the other three.
But kazoo even less so.
 
tchrist
tchrist
Swazzle.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Holy fuck.
All these people having nothing to do with all their time.
And then Ravel be like, hold my beer.
Though the funniest bit is certainly how it goes "X orchestrates it; X dies. Y orchestrates it; Y dies".
As Sean Bean said, you don't simply orchestrate Mussorgsky. And then Sean Bean died.
 
Robusto
Robusto
He is the Disposable Character.
BTW, the sax really works in Ravel's orchestration of PaaE.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
10:22 PM
He liked his saxophone, didn't he. That Bruce composer guy done a video on that.
Why sax is not in the orchestra. And how it totally is if you're Ravel.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Yup. I saw that one.
I heard a story about George Gershwin asking to study with Ravel. Whereupon Ravel told him it wouldn't be a good idea. "I can help you become a second-rate Ravel, but you have it in you to become a first-rate Gershwin."
Or words to that effect.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
He just wanted to keep his rattle and his whip to himself.
And keep them he did. Don't recall Gershwin using a whip. Not even in Porgy and Bess.
 
Robusto
Robusto
But he could write a clarinet gliss, couldn't he just?
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Yeah little did he know of Woody Allen.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Neither knew nor cared.
I'm glad I never played the bass clarinet. Or any clarinet, really.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
10:32 PM
I've played clarinet so little, I never even arrived at the point of being glad to never play it.
 
Robusto
Robusto
I've picked one up and blown into it, but never could manage to figure out the stacks and stacks of side valves, nor how to negotiate a woodwind instrument that breaks at the twelfth instead of the octave.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
You need to start with Bach's clarinet. Only got one button on it like.
From there the others gradually begin to make sense.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Well, if I wished to I would. But as I didn't, I don't.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
 
Robusto
Robusto
Yup, saw that one. And Bach's flute (which I've played a couple of times myself).
It sounded ecccccccccht.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
10:40 PM
I was just about to say that sounds gay.
But yeah we touched on Bach's flute as we got passionate with Matthew.
But then tchrist came in with with his "I broke my g string while fingering a minor".
 
Robusto
Robusto
That is the key to all his problems.
Nov 15 '18 at 15:29, by Robusto
See, that was your mistake right there. You can point to it.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Why did I laugh at my answer to that.
Answer: because I didn't remember the exact noun that I used.
That must be the one allotted time for this year that I surprise myself. Oh well. I'll wait another 362 days, then.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Saving up to spend it on something great? Probably not. You'll just blow it on a whim.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Nah, not on a whim. On hookers and blackjack.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Not a fan of either.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
10:48 PM
Never tried either tbh.
Might as well not start now.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Last time I played blackjack I blew $300 on about 20 hands. Lost 19, pushed one, end result I left the table after about 12 minutes.
But yeah, never tried a hooker either.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I can't even remember the rules. Who got time for that.
 
Robusto
Robusto
I did pick one up by accident, once. Not sure I related that story here.
Oh, I did.
Sep 12 '18 at 22:14, by Robusto
I did once pick up a prostitute by accident, though. I thought she was hitchhiking late at night in Chicago, and I worried for her safety. She looked 17.
Starts there.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I played poker exactly once. Won because I knew the people I played with, so I could mess with their heads on a level that had little to do with the game. Would have lost big time otherwise.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Well, poker is all about putting your opponents on tilt.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
10:52 PM
Is my point. How would I put someone on tilt if I know nothing about them, or they about me.
 
Robusto
Robusto
I used to worry about my son getting in people's heads at the poker table, and told him it wasn't necessarily a good idea to piss people off. They might come after you. But he just said I would be surprised how much money could be made by pissing people off.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
That Ashland story is hilarious. And I'm not using that word lightly. Easily, yes. But not lightly.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Definitely a classic.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
And then they went and spoiled it all by coming in and saying "factionalization".
This room needs rules. I think I need to make up some rules for this room.
First, no factionalization of classic story time in this room.
Second, see first.
Um, what else.
Pancakes, maybe. Yes, definitely pancakes.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Rule 1: Don't be a bore.
Rule 2: A bore is someone who speaks when you wish them to listen.
Rule 3: See Rule 1.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
10:56 PM
Also good. But what you done to them pancakes.
 
Robusto
Robusto
I'm not supposed to tell you that I prefer waffles.
In fact, I was nearly ready to eat @tchrist's head just for his waffle hat.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Nice apophasis. I mean chiasmus. I mean litotes, shit, litotes.
 
Robusto
Robusto
Mmmm, waffles. The grid perfected.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
Yes, HAL 9000.
 
Robusto
Robusto
I mean, when was the last time you ate a Cartesian graph? Never, that's when. But waffles ... mmmmmm, waffles.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
10:58 PM
I used to waffle on and on. But then I discovered pancakes.
 
Robusto
Robusto
@RegDwigнt I am so over HAL 9000.
@RegDwigнt A distinctly inferior fruit, pancakes.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
I'm afraid I can't let you mention that, Dave.
@Robusto what you expect of a pineapple?
 
Robusto
Robusto
I think you should marvel at my forbearance.
 
RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
What's with the forbear now, I thought the rules said fearbore.
 
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