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Mitch
Mitch
12:02 AM
@Robusto what's worse is that the SWRs are the best ones now.
 
 
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Cerberus
Cerberus
2:24 AM
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Q: Should I modify a gerund using an adjective or an adverb?

Worawit TepsanI know that a gerund is a noun, so it should be modified by an adjective. However, it is also a verb form. Can I modify it by using an adverb?

grammaticality grammar
Do you think this question could be reopened?
I don't think it's "general reference" at all.
It is a complex question of syntax, however simple the wording of the question itself may appear.
 
tchrist
tchrist
2:48 AM
Gerunds aren't nouns.
They've verbs.
It's a dumb word anyway. Only works in Latin.
Since in Spanish and Portuguese, gerunds are adverbs.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@tchrist Have you read my answer?
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Cerberus Maybe. Do you have a canonical duplicate to close it against instead? We gt several of these a week and sometimes a day even.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
You may disagree with it.
 
tchrist
tchrist
No, I have not.
I just read the question. :)
I didn't even know that you had answered it.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
I think the question is not general reference at all.
 
tchrist
tchrist
2:52 AM
Did you see the two from yesterday?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
If you wish to close it as a duplicate, fine, But not as GR.
The answers can be passed on to the "original" if this be a duplicate.
 
tchrist
tchrist
You are not wrong.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
I have not.
 
tchrist
tchrist
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A: Does a ver­bal noun turn back into a verb when mod­ified by an ad­verb?

tchristIn your sec­ond ex­am­ple, the ob­ject of the verb like is the gerund clause singing loudly, which serves as the NP ob­ject of the verb here. The head of that clause is the verb singing as mod­i­fied by the ad­verb loudly. Like an in­fini­tive clause, a gerund clause is a non-fi­nite verb clau...

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Q: For the linguists among us: I like loud singing vs I like singing loudly

Joseph O.Can you explain why using "loud" as either an adjective or an adverb changes the meaning of the sentence. Is it just an English convention, or is there something deeper going on? I like loud singing = I like turning the volume up on my stereo I like singing loudly = I break wine glasses when I ...

meaning parts-of-speech syntactic-analysis noun-phrases gerund-phrases
@JosephO. Yes, I am. In modern analysis, we distinguish words whose form is that of the -ing inflection of a verb according to their function. If they accept complements and adverbs, then they’re still verbs no matter whether the entire phrase is used as a nominative phrase or as a modifier phrase. When they lose their verbness, they become deverbal nouns or deverbal adjectives. When you have a lone word without any words around it, it can be ambiguous whether it’s still a verb in all its glory or whether has been unverbed into a mere noun or adjective. There may be some adverbs, too, IIRC. — tchrist ♦ yesterday
When I wrote "nominative phrase", I just meant the syntactic constituent that has a noun at its head, or something equivalent of that like infinitive clauses and -ing clauses.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
I don't agree with that approach entirely, but no matter.
There can be competing answers.
If such questions must be closed, then at least let all the interesting answers be passed on to an open question.
And let it not be closed as GR.
But I've no time, it's bedtime.
 
tchrist
tchrist
2:56 AM
Reöpened upon your request. But these tire me. We need them all shot into a canonical duplicate.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Merci!
 
tchrist
tchrist
De rien.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@tchrist That would be fine with me, especially if, as I suggested, good answers from these duplicated could be moved.
Because the matter is complex enough to warrant different viewpoints, and it would be a shame to have valid answers hidden behind a duplication sign.
Adieu!
 
tchrist
tchrist
I'm probably too tired to find a good duplicate. Jusqu'a demain!
 
tchrist
tchrist
3:26 AM
I closed mine as a duplicate of yours. Whether to merge it should probably be raised on meta.
 
 
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Robusto
Robusto
3:57 PM
Snowy here today. I actually had to shovel. Not fair!
 
tchrist
tchrist
@Robusto New Year’s Eve day gave us a couple, three inches, then two brine-freezing nights down to a small fraction above 0. Today we’re halfway through a 45-degree oscillation back the other way, having started from nearly nothing.
 
 
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MetaEd
MetaEd
6:57 PM
@tchrist Did you observe any superconductivity?
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tchrist
tchrist
Just Daniel Barenboim.
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Robusto
Robusto
7:24 PM
@tchrist Haha! I logged in just to star that.
 
 
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RegDwigнt
RegDwigнt
9:05 PM
@Robusto that is correct. I could say many things about Dylan. But I'm lazy.
 
MetaEd
MetaEd
@tchrist Gotta admire a great stick.
 
 
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KannE
KannE
10:20 PM
It's like 66 degrees every day here, too hot for Rudolph PJs. Wearing shorts is sad on Christmas. I bought plastic snow; it's not the same, but it sticks to everything.
 
Mitch
Mitch
10:32 PM
@KannE Christmas was always disappointed no to me as a kid living in the northern South. It would snow maybe once or twice a winter, maybe 2 inches, the city would shut down now knowing what to do, all the schools would close... except for
mine. So the little unenjoyable snow we got I couldn't enjoy.
Snowmen? Sledding? Pfft.
But summer? What were all the adults complaining about? It was the best of sweltering heat you could get, and then you go inside to the cool cool AC.
And just past dusk the air was filled with fireflies.
That's it. That's my entire autobiography.
All my time since has been watching TV
 

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