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12:00 PM
@Mithrandir I think the particular one I linked to is less NSFW than the other "If Google was a Guy" videos.
 
(^ I absolutely do not care that this above reaction would've been childish as heck :D )
 
@Jenayah I would've done it, lol
I was tempted by my housemate, she drove me nuts.
 
@lephe it's an even better performance than you think, given that there have been several persons in the house since (boyfriends, friends, relatives etc)
 
I'd also been tempted to lock the door, put on the chain and "think she was on holiday" while I ws asleep
"You don't have wifi" "Nah it's been acting up, don't worry, self service is cheap"
 
@Edlothiad well as I said there will be future (still innocent) tenants, so they shouldn't pay for the former ones
 
12:03 PM
But you'll be gone by then right? It's only a temp place
 
@Edlothiad whaddya mean?
No fun changing those credentials if no one sees it and change it back to admin/admin upon leaving
 
You're only in this flat for a short time during your internship right? So by the time there's new tenants you'll have gone, and they won't know who "$MYNAME" is
I'm saying leave them forever
 
I'm all for buggering the current roommates, but the future ones shouldn't have to be collateral damage - that's just petty.
 
With like a post it note hidden in the kitchen somewhere before you leave
Or on the bed in the room you vacate, so when the next person comes, they get it.
With a little tale
 
Don't want them to have to pay for some kind of "reset these credentials" stuff when they weren't bothering me
@Edlothiad can't, it will get eaten by the mice attracted by the mess these girls leave behind.
 
12:06 PM
You could also reset the credentials automatically, I guess.
 
Well, mouse, at least.
 
Or on your last day ask if anyone else has noticed wifi and then inform them that they can look up credentials, then when they shriek just laugh maniacally
We had a mouse, he was cool
 
@Edlothiad A pet mouse?
 
We called him Mike
 
@lephe like, plan them to be resetted on October 17th or something?
 
12:07 PM
Nah, a hungry mouse
 
@Jenayah Yes, exactly.
 
But then there's the issue of "no one sees it"
 
@Edlothiad how are they supposed to figure out the credentials without me handing thhem?
@lephe might look into that, actually.
 
All they need to see is the username
I guess their computer wouldn't have it saved
 
@Edlothiad no fun if they don't guess it
 
12:09 PM
Fair point
 
SAVED?
Mate, when I logged into the router it told me that was the first connection evah.
 
Lol
 
@Jenayah I'm no sure what equipment you have, but I think you can script the change and then do it at a fixed date, provided you're connected to the flat's network at the time.
 
(if the Google Translation was accurate)
 
Just buy chickens, move out early in the morning then release them
 
12:10 PM
@lephe dunno how that Dutch company set up their stuff, and thinking about it I also know nothing about Dutch reguulations on that matter ahah
 
And whatsapp them saying "looks like your mess attracted chickens as well!"
 
@Edlothiad ahahah
 
That's what we wanted to do at school. We Veto'd the idea though
 
Ahah, high school?
 
What kind of regulation would prevent you from changing you router credentials? x)
 
12:13 PM
Yeah, on the last day, but we would have to return later for exams anyways, so we decided it was a bad idea
 
@lephe not much about the changing part, rather about the scripted part - I assumed you were referring to some kind of macro/automation of sorts
@Edlothiad then why didn't you go to the exams with chickens in your backpacks? You could've released them afterwards. This plan is flawless.
 
@Jenayah Oh, not really. Sending the form via a command-line application instead of the browser. Happens all the time in background processes.
 
@lephe ah, I think I see what you mean
 
Because then there’d have been a large amount of chicken faeces in my bag...
 
@Edlothiad what happened to "take one for the team"?
 
12:16 PM
Let's be more concrete: basically you fill in the form from a shell script or similar program, then you send it using a command-line tool like curl. The router program will not see the difference. Then you can schedule the submission of the form using a cron job or something along this line.
 
Would've expected more than that from a rugbyman ahah
 
@Jenayah Good thing chickens don't talk. Taking parrots to an exam would be cheating, if you'd taught them to say the answers.
 
Instead, you bring all the human parrots... err, students.
 
@lephe barely used that, but that seems doable ahah
 
And it would certainly go undetected. xD
 
12:27 PM
@Jenayah Not when it comes to faeces
Even rugbymen have lines, I draw mine there
 
@Mithrandir Ah, it looks like the gargoyle question has come up. ^_^ In my defense, I didn't know if you actually planned on writing an answer at the time.
 
@lephe Now the question is, do I want to stay undetected forever, or do I want to go away in a blaze of glory? ...Poll time!
Stars for stealthy ninja approach
Stars for 80's action movie witty punchline
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@FuzzyBoots I wasn't sure at the time either :P I was digging through a pile of magazines, and was about to give up when I saw it. Lesson learned for me, though ;)
 
@Jenayah Got nothing to lose, so scare them good! ;p
 
@lephe got to make up a good punchline then :D
 
1:07 PM
it looks like im late but i voted the punchline
 
Seems like people prefer the good ol' American way of doing things instead of the subtle Japanese one.
The ninja is crying in the corner, but you can't see him because he's vowed to be stealthy until the end.
 
i was torn, i see the words "80's action movie", i upvote. but i also upvote ninjas
if you could combine them somehow that would be great
 
But I was the only one to star ninjas.
 
@zabeus Can't really have a ninja with a minigun and a cigar can't you? :D
 
Ye you can, it just looks like a floating minigun and cigar
 
1:17 PM
:'D
 
1:36 PM
scifi.stackexchange.com/a/192848/4918 "Late 1960's Comic Book with H shaped space ship" good story-id question and answer. pity the ship is so large that there's not much point to add hand-drawn red circles
 
@b_jonas well I mean, if you put your mind to it you could draw a big red hand-drawn circle around the whole thing, I guess :)
 
Exactly!
 
Was gonna do another one but... effort
 
another arrow?
 
1:52 PM
Well there is space for some more
:P
 
neat pun
 
Yeah... totally on purpose
 
Tagging guys, would it be ok to remove from scifi.stackexchange.com/q/187622/4918 story-id for cartoon, magical gauntlets, underground library, accepted answer is Kaijudo, rise of the Duel Monsters
 
@b_jonas yep.
 
ok, will edit. and I'll give it a better title while I'm there, although it's not a very good question (gives very few useful hints)
 
1:57 PM
Noice
 
Ah, some more clues are in the comments
 
Also needs more upvotes on the accepted answer.
It's a self-answer, so not pinned to the top.
 
Upvoted it.
 
@Randal'Thor Yes, though note that the accepted answer was given as a comment first. It might be better to upvote that comment so the guy who identified it (and explained that SE didn't allow him to post a third answer for some reason, I don't know what that could be) gets a little rep at least.
 
@b_jonas no rep comes from comments
 
2:00 PM
^
 
4 hours ago, by TheLethalCarrot
You get no rep for comments
Twice in one day...
 
@Jenayah Hmm ok.
But why could he not post it?
 
@b_jonas We should upvote the answer not because it's a brilliant answer, or to give the OP rep, but just so that the correct answer is at the top of the page with the default sorting.
 
The "SE doesn't allow me to answer more than X times" surprises me though.
 
More strangely, why couldn't he edit his existing answers.
I tried. It didn't allow me to post a 3rd answer or edit my previous ones :( I'm glad this one is answered though. — jo1storm May 29 at 22:21
 
2:02 PM
@b_jonas that... doesn't sound right, either part
 
There was a heated meta post with 4 or 5 answers from the same user a while ago.
 
When I look at a story-ID dupe, I tend to assume that the top answer will be the accepted/correct one.
 
Wait people think that comments give rep? Surely this is something one would notice..?
 
@b_jonas Maybe automatically answer-blocked?
 
@Randal'Thor Yes, but why couldn't he edit his own answers?
 
2:02 PM
That would still allow the user to edit their existing answers though ... odd.
 
He could comment, so he wasn't unregistered at the time.
Ah wait!
Maybe it was an edit conflict with Valorum?
Valorum cleaned up both his answers
 
Where was there a conflict?
I'm only seeing Valorum editing one answer and it was a good edit.
 
No, that can't be it. The correct comment is multiple days after the edits.
 
@Randal'Thor That's an...odd reason to upvote. You upvote good content, that's about it.
 
@NapoleonWilson You upvote whatever you want to upvote.
 
2:06 PM
@NapoleonWilson The Tour specifically says "Good answers are voted up and rise to the top.", so upvoting answers so they rise to the top isn't a bad reason I think
 
...with the exception of serial voting, be it for tags or people.
 
@Edlothiad In theory, yes. But as soon as you come up with bullshit reasons for upvoting, this on-paper awesomely laissez faire attitude breaks down with regards to what's good for the site.
 
@b_jonas especially for story-ID, I'd say.
 
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A: Is it OK to downvote a question for being uninteresting?

KutuluMikeYes, Absolutely, Without Reserve. First of all, at the risk of repeating myself: Users Should Downvote However They Want Downvoting on Stack Exchange is anonymous for a reason. As long as a user is not abusively downvoting (that is, they are targeting a specific user, and not the questions the...

While specifically about downvotes, it applies to upvotes to.
 
@NapoleonWilson Yes, and I think the content is good enough to upvote. But the reason I'm asking for more upvotes here isn't because the content is "OMG so brilliant it needs more votes".
 
2:08 PM
Serial voting for tags..? What does that even mean?
 
@Randal'Thor "I think the content is good enough to upvote" - Then where's the problem? ;-)
 
I think we should separate story-ID questions from the other ones wrt that matter; story-ID is kind of the exact situation where you can accept an answer "objectively"
 
"HEY! STOP UPVOTING THIS TAG, it's getting too much rep!"
 
@Edlothiad Worth noting that the other answer on that thread is (very very slightly) higher voted. Mike's answer may be accepted, but it's not a clear consensus.
 
@Edlothiad Up- or downvoting all questions/answers in a tag. Not as uncommon as you'd think.
 
2:08 PM
@Edlothiad Robo-upvoting all posts in a tag, maybe?
 
+44 vs +37
 
I meant the net score.
 
I'm not sure how that could be positive or negative?
 
@Randal'Thor It's not just accepted, there's also a comment saying that's the one he was looking for:
 
@NapoleonWilson I'm not sure. You were the one who seemed to be raising a problem.
 
2:09 PM
Oh my goodness that's it! Thank you!! — Aemr May 29 at 15:20
 
I'm not sure how the second answer says anything counter to what the first says.
 
@b_jonas I was talking about the meta that Ed linked to.
 
In any case, it's risen to the top now
 
They both seem to say "Do what you want, but suggested actions exist"
 
@Randal'Thor Because I saw you advocating a really odd upvoting philosophy. But apparently...don't actually adhere to it, it seems. So whatever. ;-)
 
2:11 PM
@Edlothiad One says "this is absolutely fine behaviour"; the other says "it's permitted but not encouraged".
Or more succinctly, "YES" vs "yes but".
 
In the large print sure
Is my understanding incorrect that it's the upvotes that count?
 
@Edlothiad Yes. There's really no single objective way to decide which answer "wins".
 
And this is why I continually call them "policy"
 
In some cases, there's a very clear consensus with net score and upvotes all favouring one answer.
But when two different answers are as close as that, it just means there's no clear consensus.
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A: How is consensus determined on Meta sites?

Shog9As Sam I am notes, it's a judgement call... Meta sites are a perversion of the Stack Exchange model, discussion sites implemented using a Q&A engine. This works surprisingly well, if you keep the limitations of both in mind at all times: Voting isn't limited - you can post an opinion and down...

I think I didn't use to agree with this answer ^ (at least I haven't upvoted it) ... but after more experience with meta, I'm seeing the sense in it.
 
@Randal'Thor Yes, and in some case an a very good late just gets forgotten because nobody sees it.
In which case sometimes I mention it in chat in case people upvote it.
 
2:19 PM
@Randal'Thor so did they have a consensus on how a consensus is reached? :)
 
That's why they call it meta!
:-D
 
@Randal'Thor It's meta even for Meta.
 
Can I remove from scifi.stackexchange.com/q/10640/4918 "Who are the characters in this Top Gear episode supposed to be?"
 
I'd say yes
 
Yep.
 
2:23 PM
Ok, a harder one (I'm going through a tag search; also should I put this in the comm'y cleanup room or keep it here?) scifi.stackexchange.com/q/11954/4918 "Which world-renowned fictional hero was the first to wear a skintight costume and a mask with no visible pupils?" [character-identification] remove or keep? already has the correct [history-of], asks for first of a trope
 
@b_jonas Ehhh, could go either way on that. Technically it's about identifying a character, but it's not what we'd usually expect from a question.
 
Such a question is typically tagged and .
However as this one isn't identifying a story but a character I'd go with the tags being appropriate.
 
@Tango - Worthless, but now on-topic. Any chance of a reopen vote? — Valorum Feb 19 '17 at 23:51
This just needs a reopen, the tags are fine
Asks for a prop used in a sci-fi film.
 
@Edlothiad We don't usually put [story-ID] on questions about "what was the first story to ...", do we?
 
@Randal'Thor I'm not certain, off the top of my head we do, would seem logical.
@Edlothiad LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!
We do not (consistently).
 
2:29 PM
I thought not, unless someone had done a big retag when I wasn't looking ;-)
 
I have many talents. That isn't one I show off too often.
 
scifi.stackexchange.com/q/22064/4918 this circle isn't hand-drawn enough
 
Strong circle drawing skills
 
I'll fix it. I've found copies of the original image on the web easily, so I can redo the circle
 
I don't think that's considered a constructive edit.
 
2:35 PM
^
@b_jonas Huh, it's been through reopen review twice and people have voted to leave closed.
 
@Randal'Thor That's an excellent answer. Sometimes people just need to be able to employ common sense and careful consideration and raise beyond just counting numbers. Or else you end up with situations where people point to dubious or downright contradictory half-explanations and cry "policy!".
 
But I haven't, yet.
@NapoleonWilson So everyone?
 
@NapoleonWilson I now think it's a good answer, but it's taken me a while to appreciate that :-)
 
I fixed the circle
 
@b_jonas Mehhh ... like Ed said, not really a useful edit.
 
2:46 PM
scifi.stackexchange.com/q/23997/4918 "Which Sci-Fi comic book series was the first to be based on a character after that character was featured in the movies?" needs and the can be removed, right?
 
@Randal'Thor Rolled back anyway
 
@b_jonas Yes.
 
But apparently it's off-topic ... why's it off-topic?
@TheLethalCarrot I just saw that.
 
@Randal'Thor These are old questions I'm going through, we probably handled closing differently.
These kinds of questions have become more acceptible since.
 
2:50 PM
@TheLethalCarrot But what is gained by posting it as a comment? Whatever you put in the comment box you can put in the answer box in the same amount of time. If someone can post a better answer building off of yours they can still do so. If you're afraid of losing reputation to downvotes (despite @Edlothiad's point that it's pretty negligible) you can always delete the answer if it gets too many downvotes.
Anyway, if it answers the question it is unlikely to get too many downvotes; at most it would probably get comments asking for more detail/sources/evidence/etc. When you get the time you can always come back and improve the answer (if someone else hasn't already done so) or delete it and post a new answer. If, on the other hand, the comment doesn't actually answer the question then it's not relevant to this discussion. Of course that should be a comment and not an answer.
 
A lot of one-line (read: comment-length) answers here do get downvoted and even flagged.
 
That's why you post them as comments, so they can't be downvoted. ;-)
(And neither NaA-flagged, since well, it wasn't supposed to be an "answer" anyway.)
 
Ooh yay, beating dead fish
 
To be honest I was happy when we left this conversation earlier, I've said all I was going to say on it already anyway
 
scifi.stackexchange.com/q/39740/4918 I've seen this one before, but the "boobies. expand" part in the image is subtle, I only caught it now.
very appropriate for a (perceived) hole in the spacesuit
 
2:56 PM
@Edlothiad "And now we wish - ha ha, what does we wish? He guessed it long ago, Baggins guessed it."
 
3 answers, all same quote, all within a minute
Amazing
 
Hmm, I'll fill the first page with retags at this rate. scifi.stackexchange.com/q/49690/4918 doesn't need
 
@b_jonas You don't have to do them all at once and when fixing tags try and fix everything in a post
Especially when bumping old posts
 
@TheLethalCarrot Yes, that's why I'm noting them here in chat instead so we can do them later.
 
2:59 PM
FGITW'd 'cause of the red hand-drawn circles you guys reminded me of, blame you :D
 
Got beaten by two as well haha
 
@Randal'Thor I would guess that that's because most one liners don't actually answer the question. But if something does answer the question, even if it could be improved it is still an answer.
 
Valorums' deleted, doesn't count
 
Bella is Queen. It is known
 
3:02 PM
@Jenayah Your answer is still good! +1
Also, congrats on 4k :-)
 
@Edlothiad well excuse me for taking the time to link to other SFF posts, adding quotes etc before sending the whole package rather than editing afterwards :D </rant>
@Randal'Thor hehe, thanks!
 
You're supposed to write a one-liner, then delete, then edit, and then undelete to have an awesome answer posted 5 seconds after the question was asked and rake in the cred!
 
Not how I roll :D
 
@Edlothiad sure but she's also seemingly on a crusade to have an answer to every HP question there is here ahah
 
3:05 PM
She answers in her tag of expertise, yes.
 
@NapoleonWilson Still doesn't work. The problem is that if your answer isn't there quickly after the question was posted, many people will never reopen the question thread and never see your answer.
 
@Edlothiad no problem with that :)
 
@Edlothiad Does that mean I answer in my tag of expertise and wasn't gaming? ;P
 
scifi.stackexchange.com/q/67786/4918 is this ok with just , or does it need in addition or instead?
 
Character id seems fine on it's own to me
 
3:11 PM
scifi.stackexchange.com/q/68648/4918 "Who is Gilderoy Lockhart based on?" currently [harry-potter] [character-identification] [inspiration]. does it need the character-identification?
 
Nope
I don't think it does anyway
 
@b_jonas Definitely not. A real-life person isn't a "character" to identify.
 
ok, thanks. will have to remove that.
 
Unless you're trying to identify Lockhart's true character. ;-)
 
@TheLethalCarrot no
 
3:15 PM
Damn
 
scifi.stackexchange.com/q/71985/4918 doesn't need character-identification, right?
 
It needs a better title for once.
 
No, could also use a better title
 
Sure
 
Should this comment on the previous question be removed? Since Anime doesn't take ID anymore.
Probably better to ask this on anime.stackexchange.comThebluefish Nov 4 '14 at 21:52
 
3:22 PM
new title: "Anime, fighters dueling in the style of their spirit animals"
 
@Jenayah I already flagged a ton of comments there. The whole sub-discussion can go.
 
@b_jonas that's got a nice ring to it
@NapoleonWilson ok ok, just curious
 
The cross-post that's complained about doesn't even exist anymore.
(Nor does Keen.) ;-)
 
@TheLethalCarrot In that case scifi.stackexchange.com/q/76023/4918 keeps the too?
 
@b_jonas I'd say yes
 
3:25 PM
It's about identifying a character, from a quick read, so is fine with it
 
Yep
 
To be honest at this point I think you can use your common sense and decide for yourself :)#
 
Why not, a bit of previous peer review is always nice, especially when there are 3-4 people on chat
@TheLethalCarrot unrelated, is that diese a typo or a form of smiley I never knew about? ahah
 
I'm trying. And my common sense is saying that these are questions that story-id experts can answer, because they need you to hunt through an unknown number of old comic books, like scifi.stackexchange.com/q/78565/4918 which doesn't yet have the tag. Should it need that? I can see now that it should have the character-identification tags
I'm not really sure how these tags should work.
 
@Jenayah Typo I have a habit of hitting that key when I press enter
 
3:29 PM
Well, does it primarily ask for a story or a character?
 
@b_jonas I'd say it's asking for the character rather than the particular story
 
I thought it was a neckbeard. ;-)
 
although OP did precise which story they read it in first, but that was apparentkly for clarification
 
@Jenayah Ok, I'll just leave it like that. I'm not sure I really have a feel for how these tags should work, and what the useful tagging rule would be.
scifi.stackexchange.com/q/79521/4918 too doesn't know which comic book he read, but I'll leave it as only character-identification then
scifi.stackexchange.com/q/79558/4918 there's an awful lot of those for comics
 
@b_jonas out of the hat, I'd say only for questions that ask the character, such as "what's this cosplay/who was that" and don't care about the place they read it in first, for when OP really wants the book/issue/movie etc in order to rewatch/read/etc it and the character description is only a means to an end, for when they want both the work and character (such as the Star Wars above)
 
3:35 PM
Well, comics are quite character-centric to beign with.
 
Or it could be left for someone more experienced to do.
 
@b_jonas in that case, OP doesn't ask for "what was that comic" but "what is this character" (it's been in the question since the first post), so yeah
@b_jonas same, this one asks for the character (doesn't really mention what kind of story OP read with said character), so
And by the way, the accepted answer could at least use an image of Raven
 
3:49 PM
Ravens are awesome indeed! \o/
 
@NapoleonWilson My contrariness says "crows for the win"
 
Is there a big difference?
 
Crows are smaller and less awesome.
 
Makes sense.
 
They're black birds which people usually get mixed up, and that is where my ornithology knowledge stops.
They're also two RWBY characters, and Qrow >> Raven.
 
3:55 PM
Well played, then!
 
4:06 PM
@Rand This is you
 
Pretty much.
 
4:20 PM
 
Are...you sure they're not as quickly replacing cars nowadays either? ;-)
That friggin' hood latch probably costs about as much as the car is worth after 6 months of driving.
 
I had one repair this year for a damaged main cable bundle. Cost estimate was 1040.39 €. They said it should take one whole day; however, I expected much more. And it took much more.
I don't know what the bill was in the end because BMW paid for everything. :-)
 
 
7 hours later…
11:22 PM
Poke @Adamant I stumbled across this... Since OP is apparently still around, you might want to finally post it :p
sure. one moment, i am busy — Adamant Feb 13 at 21:49
 
This is not asking what the room's limits are, but asking why Harry doesn't frequently use it. How is this a duplicate of a question that asks what the limits are when this question explicitly states that this is not what is being asked here? None of the answers to the other question address why the room isn't used more often for the things that are within its limitations. — Alex 1 min ago
Am I missing something here?
 
@Alex probably because my dupe-flag autocomment was deleted
at that time, OP hadn't yet added that they wanted to know about Harry specifically
So I pointed to Why did nobody ever use the Room Of Requirement to it's full potential? which itself redirected to the current dupe-target
(please note that this is just my opinion though, I can't and won't speak for the other voters)
 
@Jenayah It was closed after the edit (granted some of the votes might have been before the edit), but even with out the edit the question was still clearly asking why it's not used more often.
And this is perhaps a problem if A is similar to B and B is similar to C , but A is not similar to C.
 
11:41 PM
@Alex well if it's only about Harry and Harry only, that should go straight-up in the title IMHO
 
@Jenayah It probably should. And if necessary, it can be fixed with a simple edit. However, I think it is likely that the question wasn't meant to be specifically about Harry; it wanted to know why the room is in general underused. The part about Harry might have been thrown in just to make it more clearly not a duplicate. Either way, an incomplete title shouldn't make something a duplicate.
 
@Alex well, if it's "about people in general", I fail to see how that's not included to the full potential one (which, if I'm following you, should then be reopened too?)
 
@Jenayah It gets trickier once there's the middle question. I could see why someone would close that one as a duplicate of the "What are the limits?" one since the main thrust seems to be about the extent of the rooms powers. I could also see why someone would close the "underused" one as a duplicate of the "potential" one because the last line of "potential" throws in a question about under usage.
But once you bypass the middle question, the first and third are asking two completely different things. This is what I alluded to above with A, B, and C.
 
@Alex yeah, untransitive. But that also opens the door to each and every "Why didn't X character use the RoR" question there might be. Also, as per why they eventually used Umbridge's office I was sure a question asked that already but didn't find it back
In any case, I'm typing slower and not really making any more sense, I reckon - and worse than that, I'm starting to remember mathematical properties, so I think it's time for me to go to sleep...
Just wanted to forewarn you so that you didn't think I ditched you ;D
 
11:56 PM
@Jenayah A question of "Why didn't X use..." can potentially be closed as a duplicate of a "why didn't people in general use..." My point is not that it's not a duplicate because it specifies Harry, but that it's not a duplicate because it is a fundamentally different question.
@Jenayah Forewarning accepted.
 
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