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12:50 AM
@DavidPostill Me me me! Raises hand
 
Bob
@bertieb Yea, why would you want an antenna on a tinfoil hat?
Hmm, apparently the former Xamarin CEO will be the new GitHub CEO.
And it will be kept as a separate company, for the most part. Hmm.
...as much as I liked Mono, I didn't really like/follow Xamarin at the time :\
dunno how this guy will do
@allquixotic gaming phones are very, very weird...
maybe they'll find a niche
unlike the dozens of gaming phones before them
probably depends on price and weight
I came expecting pandas ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ — Pharap 8 hours ago
 
1:21 AM
That looks a little like a drop bear koala
@Bob keeping it as a seperate BU makes a lot of sense.
Kinda curious how the more rabid FOSS fans will react tho
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek you only need to look at /r/linux to see
they've abandoned all reason at this point
if they ever had any
it looks a lot like the uproar over microsoft "blocking" linux on lenovo/signature laptops a year ago (read: linux didn't have the driver to support the hardware, so of course evil microsoft must be blocking them... ignoring that windows didn't ship with that driver either)
as far as reddit is concerned, there's somewhat more neutral discussion on /r/programming
some people are moving to gitlab/bitbucket
personally? unless something actually happens, something more than people running around like headless chickens predicting the end of the world, I'll be staying put
and I say this while I still have a self-hosted gitlab instance up...
the worst that could happen is it turns into a sourceforge-ish clone, at which point I'll move
more likely, nothing will change
if we're lucky, it'll even improve
 
Bob
1:46 AM
O_O
macOS deprecated OpenGL?
 
That's a bit of a surprise, but eh, its FOSS anyway, and they want to push metal + more unified apps I suspect
 
Bob
it's all Metal now... hm.
 
especially if they move off x86 as they've been threatening to
 
2:26 AM
Phew. Upgrading Debian jessie to stretch on my nanoserver went with a few hitches, but in the end it worked out.
 
2:52 AM
Okay so for one hand now I have Debian stretch, but on the other hand my VPN stopped workig, adblock stopped working and x2go stopped working.
Basically everything I used this server for stopped working.
But, hey, at least it's up to date!
 
Bob
o.O
last I checked jessie => stretch was fairly safe/smooth
unless you did a lot of weird custom stuff
heck, I upgraded jessie => stretch while running lxc containers in snap and with root on zfs
if that doesn't break, idk what will
 
 
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4:09 AM
It's a "servers that's actually an OpenVZ slice on buyvm
I had upgraded from whatever comes before Jessie to Jessie by basically changing the distro name on sources.list
And running apt get
Nothing broke.
Smooth as could be
Same process now. It hanged mid process and I had to reboot
And run apt get again
And apparently it completed without complain
Other than from me, that is
 
4:50 AM
there's usually a script called do-release-upgrade what
 
Bob
5:18 AM
@JourneymanGeek that's ubuntu
 
5:36 AM
ah, didn't realise that was just that
also, why did I say what? ._.
Seems singlishy
 
6:24 AM
!!caaaaaaaaat
 
 
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7:32 AM
The Core i7-8086K is real, and just 50,000 units will be made: anandtech.com/show/12875/…
 
8:02 AM
morning
 
 
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9:07 AM
Sigh
training is now 1/2 hr late :/
 
9:34 AM
apparently the receptionist has taylor swift tickets for friday going cheap if anyone is interested
 
Bob
9:59 AM
@Burgi sure lemme just fly up to the uk :P
 
you have time!
 
10:12 AM
Someone in the village was offering tickets with prepaid accomodation
I do wonder why all these people have tickets, who aren't going
 
10:30 AM
maybe they have realised she is talentless weirdo
 
@Burgi heh, that's kinda strong words :(
though I do prefer her older stuff
 
user226528
11:01 AM
 
iirc the early razer blade pros did that too
 
dafaq?
it's like the oled keyboards
I don't know why, I don't even LOOK there.
 
user226528
Who here has played Ghost Recon: Future Soldier?
 
11:23 AM
@FleetCommand if you notice, in their video they don't once show the touchpad working as a normal mouse
 
user226528
@Burgi I'm not sure if it is a bad thing. I just hope the touchpad was above the keyboard, not below it.
 
@FleetCommand er...
wouldn't you then risk resting your wrists on the keys?
 
user226528
I rest my wrist when I use the keys, not when I use the pad.
 
11:39 AM
@FleetCommand looks ugly
 
Sorry, I couldn't resist. :(
 
I find it very amusing. :)
 
lol
 
@KamilMaciorowski Huh. The original text prior to the revision was much more descriptive.
The author him/herself then removed most words except for those. Weird.
 
12:14 PM
> It's obviously much better for software to produce a jerky, erratic ride than to provide a smooth ride that occasionally runs over a pedestrian.
 
user226528
1:19 PM
Actually, never mind.
 
user226528
Moving on.
 
Hahah
i am not a bot now returning images asking to identify cars ;)
 
user226528
1:43 PM
Long ago, I read a little snippet somewhere but now I don't remember its source. It was about an experiment with monkeys: A group of monkeys were held in a cage together. There is a ladder. On top, there are bananas. But if any monkey tries to climb the ladder, sprinklers douse the monkeys with hot water.
 
user226528
So, over time, monkeys learned not climb the ladder. When new monkeys were added, older monkeys would beat them if they tried to climb the ladder, so they also learned not to climb the ladder. Eventually, a day came when there were none of the original monkeys in the cage and there was no sprinklers. But monkeys still beat those who try to climb the ladder.
 
user226528
The text then proceeded to explain that we humans sometimes act exactly like that. There are laws, principles and values that are set down a long time ago, but when a new member of the society asks "why?", he or she gets beaten, ostracized, or shunned.
 
97
Q: How to stop an employee from holding the company hostage?

MightyPizzaI work in a team that writes software to facilitate one of the key business units of the company. I joined the team a few months ago and found out that there is high turn-over in my team due to one person. This person (let's call him Mr. A) has been with the company for 7 years, he is very diffic...

> FYI, the software monitors events, does some processing on them and then takes appropriate actions. Mr. A has:

Purposefully kept away from modern software development frameworks;
Written core business logic in languages that can't be tested;
Re-architectured software components into 30 modules to add complexity and version certification issues, and;
Designed it in a non-scalable fashion, ensuring there is no HA capabilities.
It's like thedailyWTF and the BOFH had a child
 
user226528
@bertieb I'm not sure what BOFH is but I used to read TDW a long time ago.
 
A series written by Simon Travaglia of a sociopathic sysadmin and his sidekick the PFY (pimply-faced youth); highly entertaining
He's been writing it for $years (the old ones are archived, El Reg host the newer ones), so it actually makes for quite an interesting chart of technology
(trope: UnintentionalPeriodPiece)
 
user226528
1:56 PM
Thanks. Found it under "Bastard Operator From Hell".
 
That's the one
 
user226528
(Psst... Do you think I should have censored any of those words?)
 
Ehh
allq's response to MS buying GH was starred, and a stronger curse word
But even without that, naw
 
tbh if people actually say things, people can object if they wanted to...
its better not to be a smartass
 
user226528
I understand him, poor thing. Microsoft's dark history of Embrace, Extend and Extiguish is not pretty.
 
1:59 PM
I have no objections!
A word by itself isn't going to hurt anyone
 
user226528
He has created repos there. It is now his "home". And now he faces potential eviction because of Veruca Salt-like kind of behavior of someone else.
 
It's all about context
Wasn't she one of the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory kids?
 
user226528
Yeah. A spoiled one with a rich daddy.
 
Ah
 
user226528
If she wanted a repo, she'd have her daddy buy GitHub.
 
2:01 PM
Someone should mention to her that she can have repos for free :P
Borrowed liberally from another star wall
 
user226528
Last time I saw this meme, the words in it were different.
 
user226528
I am sure SourceForge was there.
 
SF is still alive?
 
user226528
Yeah.
 
user226528
And is advertising a tool for migrating from GitHub.
 
2:04 PM
lol
The Empire Strikes Back
 
user226528
I fear the death of post-Microsoft GitHub is a prophecy that fulfills itself.
 
MS seems more benign now than it used to be
 
user226528
SourceForge lost a lot of open-source contributors when it announced that Cuba, Iran, Iraq and North Korea would be blocked. (Iraq because back then...)
 
user226528
Oh, yeah. More benign. I agree.
 
2:24 PM
@bertieb They though Sauron was dead too.
 
does anyone know off the top of your heads a mobile equivalent of 8400 cpu
 
@djsmiley2k Haven't read/seen it so all I can say is "they're taking the hobbits to Isengard" :P
 
7300hq seems to be the most popular model
 
2:49 PM
lol knocked out power lead while guy is showing all us the licencing crap
fortuantely it's not something I'll ahjve to touch so :D
 
wooohooo!!!!!
we have a new front end dev
look guys this microsoft purchase is a good thing
 
@Burgi that was fast...
 
it has saved the jobs of hundreds of github engineers for the forseeable future, they now have access to MS's cloud which should reduce their operating costs
 
indeed
github has hundreds of engineers?
 
3:10 PM
> Employees 800
GitHub Inc. is a web-based hosting service for version control using Git. It is mostly used for computer code. It offers all of the distributed version control and source code management (SCM) functionality of Git as well as adding its own features. It provides access control and several collaboration features such as bug tracking, feature requests, task management, and wikis for every project. GitHub offers plans for both private repositories and free accounts which are commonly used to host open-source software projects. As of April 2017, GitHub reports having almost 20 million users and 57 million...
it is a reasonable assumption
 
most of their devs probably support enterprise customers
if you buy Github Enterprise you basically pay the salary of a GH employee
plus profit for GH
 
Okay, so OpenVPN is up, now only pi-hole and x2go to go
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy on the server? :)
like the delimiter box?
 
@allquixotic No, my BuyVM OpenVZ 128MB slice
 
> 128MB
my phone has 24 times more memory than that
what can you even run with 128 MB? I'm surprised you can run OpenVPN plus literally anything else
you could probably run DamnSmallLinux
 
3:25 PM

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@allquixotic I'm surprised too, but I can run OpenVPN, pi-hole, x2go, a xcfe session and transmission. At the same time.
I use transmission to get Open Source distros, and for educational purposes, obviously.
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy do you have a ~2GB swap file?
 
No, swap is 128 MB too
 
wow
the last time I had a computer with less than 1 GB of RAM was probably about 14 years ago
 
I think they do some trick with a "fake" swap or something on OpenVZ.
I vaguely recall reading something about it
 
even my 2007 ThinkPad X60 had 2 GB in a thin and light laptop (thin for its time)
I think the base model might've been 1 GB
 
3:28 PM
But when I try to run speedtest-cli on this "box" it errors out OOM
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Did you have a look at the 768MB hostUS dealie btw?
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy just use the delimiter server! :P
oh wait
> for educational purposes
ok, please don't use it for that
 
lol
yeah 128Mb ram is a joke :/
I mean sure you can do things in it
but there's normally never any need.
 
actually
if you install a VPN client on the Delimiter server, and VPN out to another provider or use a no-logs VPN service like NordVPN, you could use Transmission on it and I wouldn't mind
 
I was going to make a joke about them using raspi's..... cept none of the raspi's models have that little ram! XD
 
3:31 PM
set up an encrypted user directory, plunk your crap in there, and FTP/SFTP it down when done
from the point of view of Delimiter, you'd be sending and receiving random bits over an encrypted connection to a single endpoint, and they couldn't call you out for any particular type of disallowed traffic
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy I have a feeling that it deliberaltey tries to keep the downloaded file in a ram disk
 
and if they scanned the HDD at a block layer, without the crypto password they would have nothing
 
and as the downloaded files are normally like 1Gb....
 
@bertieb I plan to, but I have this supposedly urgent and important project to deliver.
 
oh right, it's not past May 6 yet
 
3:34 PM
Your time machine is broken
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Sure of course, don't mean to rush you :)
Well, for the hostUS thing, anyway
As for that project... cracks whip
 
I need to call up Virgin Media and rip em a new one
 
@bertieb don't encourage him to spend money when he has access to a free baremetal server with 24 GB of RAM for like the next 8 months at minimum
 
tho it might just of been teh guyy on the online chat breaking it yesterday
 
> supposedly urgent and important
Yet they can't seem to provide us with a couple 2GB VMs and 100 AUD (76 USD) for a WP plugin
 
3:39 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy Didn't you know? 100 USD could feed 638 Brazilian children for 3 months! Why would you throw all that money away on a WP plugin?
(I'm being slightly facetious)
 
No, you see, the issue isn't budget, it's red tape
Interested providers need to submit proposals. With the proper amount of red tape.
Then if I correctly understood what my colleague told me
By default the cheapest has to be picked
That explains oh so many htings
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy so, like, if a contractor cuts corners and grossly under-delivers with something that doesn't really meet specifications but can be passed off as such, while being a lower price, that's the shit you get?
How would they even do that with the WP plugin? Would they.... acquire the WP plugin from its developer then subtly break it? Give you a 3 year old version? Provide it on a stack of 600 DVDs in .antizip format (which simply takes the same file and increases its size by over 9000%)?
 
@allquixotic If what I've been told is correct, then, yeah.
 
Or maybe they'd pirate it, and sell it for something while they paid nothing for it
 
Well, technically as it is GPL it has arguably the prerrogative of being freely distributable.
 
3:45 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy but nobody is hosting a freely downloadable copy?
 
WordPress plugins have to be GPL, mandatorily. Some people argue over this but most people agree upon this point.
 
huh, I didn't know that
so they're considered derivative works?
 
There's a big debate on if it's ethically correct to distribute a WP plugin you bought.
@allquixotic There's a debate
Technically WP Plugin sellers are selling supports and updates.
 
is it GPLv2 only, 2 or later, or 3 only?
 
@allquixotic So. I found a github repo with copies of said plugin, downloaded to test on my local machine to show it could be done and accelerate development. I immeditally requested (on writing!) for a paid copy.
@allquixotic Not sure.
 
3:48 PM
what plugin is it?
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy I don't think you should worry about the legality of using the GPL'ed copy - it's GPL'ed - and the GPL has never actually been tested in court AFAIK
 
is there a free alternative? could you write your own?
 
besides, doesn't your uni like, pirate Windows?
using a commercialized GPL'ed software is about 10000% more legit than pirating Windows
 
I would feel very, very conflicted to see it go live without buying the plugin. I help to organize local WP meetups and twice I helped to organizer WordCamps in Rio and I occasionally give WP talks and how can I practice the opposite of what I preach?
@Burgi ACF
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy well you shouldn't preach that there's anything wrong with sharing free software
the whole ethos of free software is that it's free and nobody (even greedy plugin authors) can stop you from distributing it
if the vendors are selling support and updates and you need neither, then take the distribution, use it and be happy
I don't think anyone who's on the other side of the debate even has an argument TBH
if the software is licensed under the GPL and you're creating a derivative work, your work is GPL too, game over - if you don't like it, use another CMS that isn't GPL'ed
there's no ethical argument that you shouldn't do that
absolutely none
 
3:51 PM
In practice, clueless users download "FREE PREMIUM NULLED CRACKED WP PLUGINS" from random sites then go to this FB group to ask for support
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy we use Meta Box plugin which is free
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy (1) stupid users; (2) unethical redistributors of free software... both legit problems, but not a reason to not take advantage of the Four Freedoms granted to you by a free software license
 
@Burgi freemium, same as ACF
 
and any WP vendor who tries to tell you otherwise is simply incorrect and is trying to "creatively" interpret the license for their own commercial gain
if you guys think you will need support then definitely you shouldn't go live until you have a support contract
that's about the only reason I could think of to hold off
 
There's a side of the debate that uses the same arguments you're using, and they do have a valid and strong point.
 
3:55 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy it has a smaller footprint and can be handled entirely in code rather than storing the fields in the DB
 
not trying to be preachy, I just think the GPL and its implications are awfully clear, and it's what's kept, for instance, the Android kernel from being proprietary, and router firmwares have to release their Linux modifications
 
The other side says that the business model of the plugin sellers is based on, well, selling plugins and by not paying for them we're not recognizing the author's work and no incentivizing the ecossytem
@Burgi Oh, we don't store the fields on the DB, we store them either as PHP arrays or JSON files.
 
i'm just not a fan of ACF
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Red Hat is a profitable publicly-traded company that only produces open source software; every line of code they write gets released to the open... if they can't find a business model for WP plugins without making them proprietary, they should go into business writing plugins for a BSD or Apache-licensed CMS (non-copyleft)
 
@allquixotic There are some unlicensed copies but AFAIK they're being gradually phased out. Problem is it's a huuuuge quantity of computers
 
3:56 PM
or at least LGPL, which should allow them to sell proprietary plugins
I'm all for respecting the copyright license of a work; even if you have the source code, if the copyright license says "you can't distribute this to other people", then you shouldn't be doing so
but the copyright license of WP plugins says whoever gets a copy has four guaranteed freedoms, regardless of what some prior distributor up the chain "wanted"
if they didn't want you using it for a particular purpose they shouldn't have distributed it under that license (which they have no choice but to do, since they're deriving from a GPL'ed work)
nobody forced those companies to write WP plugins
 
As I said, you have a very strong point
 
dino pls
 
what up?
 
django -> BSD, Umbraco -> MIT, SilverStripe -> BSD, Pimcore -> BSD, DotNetNuke -> BSD, concrete5 -> BSD... just from a quick google of "CMS licenses"
any of those, vendors can legally sell proprietary plugins where distribution would be a copyright violation (and then I would support suing any users who choose to distribute illegally)
 
4:01 PM
WordPress and GPL – Everything You Need to Know kinsta.com/learn/wordpress-gpl
Is the WordPress GPL Being Abused? wpmayor.com/wordpress-gpl-abuse
 
didn't you hate Umbraco? :P
someone here hated Umbraco
 
Themes are GPL, too wordpress.org/news/2009/07/themes-are-gpl-too <= from wp.org themselves
@allquixotic IIRC, it was @Burgi
I hate Drupal. With a passion.
 
hi Burgi; did you know that the sound of your screams of pain while using Umbraco are sweet, sweet melody to my ears?
I had a fantastic experience with Joomla FWIW
 
We have a huge huge legacy Joomla base with hundreds of sites and literally one guy supporting all of them
 
I paid $700 USD for a lifetime subscription to support and updates for a collection of about 30 plugins, both stylistic and functional, from an excellently run Vietnamese company that is one of the foremost Joomla plugin companies - and $700 USD in Vietnam probably goes pretty far
they're called JoomlaShine and I really, really like them and their work
 
4:06 PM
I used to pay 80 USD a year for Elegant Themes who makes WP themes and plugins
 
JoomlaShine's plugins were so good that a minimally technical friend with basic web design skill was able to produce a beautiful site over a weekend
 
@allquixotic Google says monthly wage in Vietnam in 2018 is USD 175
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy right, so if they have like 10-50 people employed and hundreds of sales of their lifetime license, plus a few hundred more recurring monthly subs at a much lower price but ongoing, they're set.
 
Yeah
Is Joomla GPL?
Yeah GPL v2
 
yes it is - I believe you can get JoomlaShine's plugins online too, but I purchased it for easy access to support because I'm clueless TBH - also, their auto updater that gives you new versions when they don't break backwards compatibility would only work if you have a subscription
 
4:11 PM
Anyway let's get back to the last part (Well, my part anyway) of the project which involves a lot of manual copy and paste ;_____;
 
if you got their plugins from another source you would have to manually update, risk the middleman introducing malware if you don't audit it, and you'd have no support
 
so then as customers there are reasons to want to buy a subscription from these GPL'ed plugin companies, which is great, because that demand for buying a sub can co-exist with the freedom of distribution of the plugins outside of that model
the only really dark area that honestly fucking sucks is the leeches who distribute these plugins while injecting their own malware into the mix
those scum are a pox on the whole software community
 
@allquixotic i only hate our installation of Umbraco
 
we need a centralized repository that contains trusted, audited builds of GPL'ed WP and Joomla (and other GPL'ed CMS) plugins, with free and unlimited downloads
 
4:17 PM
@allquixotic I don't think it's much likely because there's a lot of money on the theme and plugin market that gets injected back into the wordpress ecosystem and Automattic benefits from that
 
the newer versions are quite robust and haven't been built by blind idiots with the hammiest of fists
 
someone said exactly that statement about Red Hat's open source code a number of years ago, and then CentOS was born, and then Red Hat took over the CentOS project and continues to distribute it
maybe the open source model works for Red Hat because, try as they might, even while working as hard as they actually can on making the release stable, an entire operating system is so complicated that you'll never get it all right; like, they don't even have to artificially inject bugs, the software is going to be buggy AF all the time no matter what
so people need support to get patches and fixes to actually use it in an enterprise fashion
a WP plugin might be a simple enough thing that there might actually be zero bugs in a release, or vanishingly few
Red Hat support customers are paying for the right to request a Red Hat employee to work on a fix for a specific issue that matters to them
which then gets open sourced after, but regardless, it's basically a way to force them to prioritize what matters
 
4:38 PM
OK so I fixed OpenVPN by installing it again.
And I fixed x2go by restoring the sshd.config backup
(YAAAAAY FOR BACKUPS) :D :D :D
Hope pi-hole is that easy too
Hm. Spoke too soon. x2go is still broken.
I don't have time to troubleshoot deeper.
 
4:59 PM
@bertieb That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
!!s/troubleshoot deeper/bleed/ :44989833
 
@bertieb I don't have time to bleed. (source)
 
Now, if only I could make that "(source)" link to Finding the Time to Bleed, which is still my favourite game update blog post ever
 
> Since the release of Meet the Sandvich in August, several people have asked us how something we'd boasted would be "our magnum opus," "over four hours long" and "make Citizen Kane look like something dumb a complete idiot would make," ended up being one un-dramatic minute spent inside a refrigerator.
 
5:04 PM
Hmmm :/
 
It starts well, and gets better :D
 
I'm a sandvich
 
5:48 PM
@allquixotic "What was that, sandvich..? Kill them all? HA HA HA, GOOD IDEA"
(mp3 warning)
 
@bertieb :D
 
6:43 PM
gah
Ah ha!
 
who is the dude?
 
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Q: How can Santa keep his lists when GDPR is around?

Pavel JanicekFor my non European readers, there is excerpt of what GDPR means: (emphasis mine) The General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) is a regulation in EU law on data protection and privacy for all individuals within the European Union (EU) and the European Economic Area (EEA). A processor o...

<3 worldbuilding.
 
@djsmiley2k GDPR? GDPR!
 
uhh guys
i have a problem
 
I'm going to change my nickname to GDPR
 
6:49 PM
i need to completely reset my computer, as in wipe everything and reinstall windows
i have ubuntu dual booted as well
anyway
 
have you got a backup?
 
...yes
back to story
 
@ALinuxLover why do you (think you) need to do that?
 
because honestly it's really slow, probably has malware, windows is halfway broken, etc.
anyway when i tried to reset (no keeping files, normal reset, all disks) it stopped after a while and said there was an eror
error*
 
@ALinuxLover do you have a virus scanner? have you run Windows Defender Offline or Malwarebytes from a USB stick? you can make sure you don't have malware
 
6:51 PM
do I need to remove ubuntu manually or something
 
@ALinuxLover you can side-grade to the same or a newer build of Windows 10 using the Media Creation Tool, which fixes tons of problems
@ALinuxLover I believe if you install Windows fresh on the Windows partition, it won't destroy your Ubuntu installation, but it will overwrite the bootloader, so you won't be able to get back into Ubuntu unless you reinstall Grub
 
i tried but when i tried to boot it, it just went to the normal windows
i tried reinstalling windows without wiping all the other things
 
you have to boot into an Ubuntu live environment (DVD or USB stick) and use grub-install
 
now it refuses to update
 
step 1: stop visiting naughty sites
step 2: stop downloading dodgy stuff
step 3: install an ad-blocker
step 4: run malwarebytes
 
6:52 PM
im on a version of windows from 2016 yikes
ok im not lol
ive done that and it doesnt fix the fact that im on windows 10 from like 2016
 
@ALinuxLover you can upgrade the build using Media Creation Tool without reinstalling
 
i tried using the windows updater and the media thing and they both say that it can't update system partition
 
there are so many things you can fix without totally reinstalling Windows
 
Did you get a specific error from the updaters?
 
@ALinuxLover eh... sfc /scannow and do the DISM thing (I forget the exact command) first
 
6:54 PM
me being an idiot i contacted microsoft support and they did nothing
uhh what is dism lmao
 
dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
 
im not smart
oh ok
 
thanks Ben
 
ok then
 
Deployment Imaging and Service Manager(?)
 
6:54 PM
thanks i will try it
 
you have to do both of those from an administrative command prompt
 
!!hv
 
no kidding
soon, once the caching updates, I will be known as GDPR :D
will keep the profile pic so nobody gets confused
 
There is a system repair pending which requires reboot to complete. Restart
Windows and run sfc again.
it said that earlier and i rebooted?
i havent done much since i rebooted besides talk here and run sfc /scannow
 
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