The Awkward Silence

Richard U

8:05 PM

@Tinkeringbell it

It's middle American culture. You don't bother anyone

Tinkeringbell

@RichardU Buuut.. what if I need an ambulance?

Richard U

@Tinkeringbell another good reason to myob, a neighbor will drive you, as the nearest ambulance may be an hour away.

@Tinkeringbell some places don't have police. no need.

TheTinyMan

@RichardU Wait, really?? Or sheriffs or anything? o.O

Tinkeringbell

Like I said, America sounds too scary ;-)

NVZ

8:30 PM

Oh hey all

Richard U

@TheTinyMan no crime in some areas.

NVZ

NVZ is stuck in the life things. Unable to hangout here as much as he wants. Sad.

Richard U

@Tinkeringbell not really. This is the part of the country where if your car breaks down, the first person to see you will pull over and help you.

Tinkeringbell

@RichardU Scary.... if my car breaks down, I'd prefer not to get into some stranger's truck XD

@NVZ is life being that harsh on you?

NVZ

@Tinkeringbell Quite the opposite. I'm finally at the dream job. Soon going to meet the girl in person that I'm some day going to marry.. :D

IPS Comment Bot

8:33 PM

@sphennings I wholeheartedly agree that it's not indicative of any problems, but it's a great opportunity to reflect on your relationship and to reconsider your needs and desires together with your SO. — henning 41 secs ago

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Matched regex(es) ["chatty"]

Tinkeringbell

;) Sounds perfect! What's the dream job and girl look like?

Richard U

@Tinkeringbell again, it's different there. He'll fix your tire, or wait until the second person comes alone and wait with you until they can get help. Again, this is how people are.

Tinkeringbell

@RichardU I hope it is :) For the record, I've just been teasing ;) Although reading about the cop bit did make me go 'weird' it made sense once it started explaining that everyone over there can potentially carry a gun...

BTW, the help thing is common here too, but it's disappearing

I remember a winter when studying in university where I met an old lady at the supermarket barely able to carry her groceries, let alone walk on icy streets... She'd just had a hip replacement and no neighbor had offered help :/

Rainbacon

@Tinkeringbell Not everyone can carry a gun. Some cities have pretty strict gun laws, and there are certain people (felons for example) who are banned from owning a gun, but of course there are illegal ways to acquire a gun if you really want one.

Richard U

@Tinkeringbell it's fading in Colorado as more people flood the state from California. They don't have the same ethic.

Tinkeringbell

8:48 PM

@Rainbacon Must have been from a state/city where it was pretty easy to own one then... Because it specifically mentioned it ;) It is nice to know that there's some regulation though, media over here often presents it like there's none at all

Richard U

@Tinkeringbell America has more guns than people. The cities with the strictest laws have the highest gun crime rates, and visa versa

The town that I lived in had at least one gun in every home. zero crime.

STreet gangs tried to invade one small city, until they found out that cowboys shoot back. It didn't turn out well for the gang members

Tinkeringbell

I guess there's something to say for and against having guns ;)

Pheo

Guns do both cause problems and stop them.

Tinkeringbell

I know our neighbor has one, because they once explained why the cops dropped by so regularly ;) They're apparently checking he's storing the gun correctly

@Pheo Yep

Richard U

@Tinkeringbell my father had a sign in the window of his house. "This house guarded by shotgun three nights per week. YOU GUESS WHICH THREE"

funny, he never had any trouble

Tinkeringbell

8:54 PM

@RichardU We just have 'Coffee is ready for you

and I made my mom a 'I'm sorry you missed it, yesterday this home was spotless'

Rainbacon

@Tinkeringbell Our country was founded by people who happened to have guns and used them to fight a war against a government that they believed to be oppressive. A lot of people like to cling to that.

Tinkeringbell

@Rainbacon Ahhh... history nuts! as an archaeologist, I can relate :P

I mean, using stone tools is a lot of fun!

Rainbacon

Not that such an approach would work well today. I highly doubt a bunch of private citizens with hunting rifles and shotguns could stand up against the most well funded military in the world.

Pheo

You'd be surprised. The most well-founded/funded military still does not have home court advantage.

Tinkeringbell

Sorry, what's a home court advantage?

Pheo

8:59 PM

Knowing the terrain, secrets, hidden tunnels etc.

Tinkeringbell

@Pheo Ah...

How many hidden tunnels are there over there?

:P There's none here, not enough history to warrant them :P

Pheo

LOL i don't even know where we are talking about. I'm just saying, that can change the outcomes.

Rainbacon

I don't know that there are too many hidden tunnels here

Tinkeringbell

@Pheo Well, you mentioned hidden tunnels XD I assumed there was some interesting hidden tunnel over there. Or have you just been playing video games? :P

'over there' = wherever you live/reside/work...

Pheo

@Tinkeringbell No, and No. Too many movies from Marvel.

Tinkeringbell

9:06 PM

@Pheo That's a perfectly valid explanation too ;)

I need to catch up on those some day

Pheo

In about a month you will have a few more movies to watch. :P

sigh

How busy are mods?

Tinkeringbell

@Pheo Too busy I guess? Why?

@Pheo I hate that. I need to catch up before they release the new stuff! Now, I'm only getting farther behind...

Pheo

in Raphiel's playground, 3 hours ago, by DukeZhou

So what can this bot do right now. How should I be interacting? (Just found the instrictions at the top--too bad we can't link them persistently on the sidebar...)

in Raphiel's playground, 19 mins ago, by Pheo

@DukeZhou you were saying... What can the bot do, How should you interact, as in how to ping him?

Richard U

@Rainbacon don't forget that our well funded military is purely volunteer and made up of the citizenry and would take a very dim view towards taking illegal orders.

Pheo

That busy! XD

Mk, I'm gonna back off for a while. I think I am starting to dominate the conversation.

Rainbacon

9:10 PM

@RichardU That's a good point, though they can't be too averse to taking orders or they wouldn't join the military

Richard U

@Rainbacon Orders, yes, ILLEGAL ORDERS no

they're soldiers, not drones

Tinkeringbell

@Pheo In here? Don't worry about that. Ever seen how many messages are mine during a regular day? :P

Pheo

Ok. :P

Rainbacon

@RichardU We could probably go well down the rabbit hole about whether or not fighting rebellious citizens is illegal, but I'm far too exhausted for that.

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, it was awfully quiet in here last week when you weren't around much

One might even say it was awkwardly silent

Pheo

XD

Tinkeringbell

9:15 PM

@Rainbacon Yeah, you all were quite disappointing :P It's not that difficult to discuss weather reports when I'm gone now, is it? :P

@Pheo He is right though :P

Richard U

@Rainbacon I come from a military family. I have a bit of knowledge

Rainbacon

@Tinkeringbell Would it help if I claimed that we were too busy covering for all of the moderation that you usually do?

Tinkeringbell

@Rainbacon If only there were proof :P

I'm sure y'all tried ;)

I'm sorry for disappearing all of sudden, I just had some stuff to sort out before I felt comfortable putting effort into this again ;)

Rainbacon

I hit my daily limit on flags for the first time, and they were all marked helpful. That's about as much proof as I have

Tinkeringbell

But @Pheo, now I'm curious as to what your bot does :)

@Rainbacon That sounds like a very good start!

Rainbacon

9:20 PM

And it's quite all right that you took some time. I'm glad you came back though. I decided last night that you're my new hero, because I'm quite impressed with how level headed you've remained despite the amount of pushback that you've gotten for caring about the site.

Tinkeringbell

@Rainbacon Please, whatever you do, don't put me on a rank higher than anyone else here... that's not how community works ;)

And I've definitely not stayed level headed :P I can hide stuff XD

Heya @DukeZhou

DukeZhou

Hello @Tinkeringbell

Tinkeringbell

( I think someone (@Pheo?) was impatiently waiting for you) :P

Pheo

Yes he knows

DukeZhou

Pheo is but unfortunately, I am about to go afk

Tinkeringbell

9:24 PM

@DukeZhou :( new faces in the room, but they're leaving immediately! I failed my duty as a hostess :P

Pheo

@Tinkeringbell That's the room!

Rainbacon

@Tinkeringbell Well, then you've done a good job of hiding things :)

Tinkeringbell

@Rainbacon Meh, the cracks are even visible here, if you know where to look ;)

IPS Comment Bot

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Pheo

9:52 PM

@Rainbacon why did the convo dropo so mucho?

Tinkeringbell

10:04 PM

@Pheo Sometimes, this room just has to live up to it's name ;)

Pheo

:P

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to make amends for an (unexpected) embarrassing situation? by AsleepAtTheLab on interpersonal.SE (@Tinkeringbell)

Pheo

@SmokeDetector feedback interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/12823 tpu

I fear that silently failed.

Tinkeringbell

I don't think feedback works in here ;)

People have tried that before ;)

Pheo

They don't get a reply even if it works.

Rainbacon

10:20 PM

@Pheo Well, I had to go home

Pheo

10:30 PM

0_0

Tinkeringbell

→ 19 messages moved to trash

Pheo

You just had to leave that one. :P

Tinkeringbell

Hahaha, I think it's okay this way? :P

Pheo

Yes.

Tinkeringbell

I like it, at least :)

→ 1 message moved to Trash

Pheo

10:34 PM

You can't move trash notifs.

@Raphiel welcome Rainbacon

@Rainbacon Hi! I am Raphiel! Please review the room rules. Please don't abuse me. I am still in testing, and wouldlike to live a long life without complications.

When your code works but your English has spelling errors.

Rainbacon

Hi Raphiel. Welcome to the Awkward Silence!

Tinkeringbell

Nah, I just wanted to see if I could actually move stuff to Trash instead of trash... never been able to do that before, it didn't show up in my list before too

Pheo

@Tinkeringbell new room. Made because the old trash was made gallery.

Catija

@Pheo Yeah, the solution to that is to ask a mod for access to it if you're a RO.

Tinkeringbell

I didn't ask for access though..

Catija

10:37 PM

It's not a gallery room.

Tinkeringbell

for either

Pheo

@Catija I asked one. Got no response.

Catija

I feel like I'm talking in circles.

Tinkeringbell

Sorry...

So, what trash or Trash should I use now?

Catija

ROs have the ability to move stuff to the trash. This requires that either:

Pheo

10:38 PM

1) be a mod
2) have write access

Catija

1. the trash room be a general room (not gallery)
2. the RO have write access to a gallery trash room

@Pheo No.

Pheo

Well, yes you have to be an RO.

Catija

If you don't have access to a gallery trash room and you need it, ask a mod for help.

@Pheo You didn't say RO, you said mod.

Pheo

Catija why would you want to have a gallery trash?

Catija

So that people can't go and chat in the trash can.

Pheo

10:40 PM

Mk... whusup with the other trash room that is private?

Catija

The mod trash is for mods to trash stuff that they feel needs to be more obscured.

Pheo

@Tinkeringbell don't matter.

@Catija Thought so. Where the stuff that won't die goes.

Silence reigns...

user15026

Sometimes that happens in chat rooms.

Pheo

@Catija @Ash what do you think of my project for the bot? Any things I should know?

Catija

... I don't actually know what you're talking about.

Pheo

10:44 PM

Raphiel: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/75397/raphiels-playground

I believe it will be SEs second NN bot...

Ok, sorry. I am drifting off topic for this room.

Well, I guess it could be kinda on topic because it is centered around human interactions.

Rainbacon

We don't force conversation here to necessarily be about human interaction. We mostly just sit here and watch the comment bot give us flag targets. And occasionally a conversation breaks out

Pheo

May I quote that?

Tinkeringbell

On one condition ;) I like it if people not interrupt with random stuff when there's an actual discussion/conversation on IPS (site or skills) going ;)

Rainbacon

@Pheo you may

Tinkeringbell

Oh, actually, 2 conditions :P @Rainbacon needs to agree as well :P

Pheo

10:54 PM

@Tinkeringbell Can you post a version without... quite as many smilely faces?

:P

Tinkeringbell

Sorry, I use those a lot.

user15026

@Pheo this doesn't really explain what it is for or why it matters

Rainbacon

But she likes smiley faces, they make the atmosphere nice

Tinkeringbell

@Rainbacon Mainly, I'm just covering my way too direct way of communicating a lot of the time :P

Often, the smiley is there to remind people I'm actually friendly

Pheo

@Ash sorry 'bout that. The information is kind of dispersed. I should make a website for it. Basically, Raphiel was intended to just be a simple Neural Net, but I ended up wanting something more. Raphiel, when finished, will be the second NN bot on SE (Unless someone beats me there :P). Most of the commands will be removed, essentially making it a conversationalist.

Rainbacon

10:57 PM

To quote HDE: Yeah, but it's a nice cesspool.

user15026

@Pheo So what do you do with it?

Pheo

@Ash working on it right now.

Rainbacon

I can't seem to figure out how to make it italics

Pheo

Making sure everything works

Tinkeringbell

* text * without spaces

Pheo

10:58 PM

@Rainbacon multiline comments don't follow markdown

Tinkeringbell

Won't work
if you post two lines at once

Pheo

Or

three

Rainbacon

That's kind of annoying

Tinkeringbell

@Rainbacon only kind of? :P

Rainbacon

You learn something new every day

Pheo

11:01 PM

@Ash Ping it.

@Raphiel you tell him how nice you are.

@Pheo Absolutely not

Tinkeringbell

;) I think Ash was asking more about 'what's your next step' ;)

Pheo

Oh.

Tinkeringbell

You're making a neural network bot, but is it supposed to be just fun, or is it supposed to have some role to fill?

Pheo

@Tinkeringbell hmm... Could fill some role. I'd have to disable the NN in the SO-botics room though.

If I have one thing I would do, It would be to get it a separate account.

Right now I'm just making sure the NN doesn't interfer with the bot core itself.

user15026

Yeah, like is it learning something? Is it meant to be chatted with a la Eliza? Is it supposed to give particular info?

Pheo

11:05 PM

@Ash la Eliza is not a person I know.

But yes, I will make it multi-purposed

Introverted Meta Man.

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Q: Why is the following statement about men not rude?

This kind of thing is a big part of the reason that women have largely dropped out of game culture... Boys will be boys, and more often than not, men will be boys. It's... Disappointing. The quote above is taken from here and the "thing" it talks about is starring at a chest of a woman with ...

user15026

Eliza was an early chat bot:

user15026

ELIZA

ELIZA is an early natural language processing computer program created from 1964 to 1966 at the MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory by Joseph Weizenbaum. Created to demonstrate the superficiality of communication between humans and machines, Eliza simulated conversation by using a 'pattern matching' and substitution methodology that gave users an illusion of understanding on the part of the program, but had no built in framework for contextualizing events. Directives on how to interact were provided by 'scripts', written originally in MAD-Slip, which allowed ELIZA to process user inputs and...

Pheo

@Ash Yes it will be able to be interacted with via chat pings. Eventually, I will add some features (Maybe chat filters?).

Bye. Night calls.

Tinkeringbell

@Pheo Sleep well!

Pheo

11:38 PM

Apparently I read my watch wrong.

Feature requests anyone? I tend to not think of these.

OK that is so wrong. I think I really need to read this bot code before I do anything else:

// the function women think is lacking in men
    listen: function (regex, fun, thisArg) {
        if (Array.isArray(regex)) {

I did not write that.

    // this is an ugly, but functional thing, much like your high-school
    // prom date to make sure a command's output goes through us, we simply
    // override the standard ways to do output
    var reply = cmdArgs.reply.bind(cmdArgs),
        directreply = cmdArgs.directreply.bind(cmdArgs);

Grrrrr.

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