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11:01 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, +1 more: Viral Supplements New information by user272031 on apple.SE
 
sd k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body: Cur Q Flex - The supplement is free from gluten by doloreschang on superuser.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)
 
sd k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, +4 more: supplementschoice.com/testro-t3/ by isobel sims on astronomy.SE
 
sd k
 
11:12 AM
@SmokeDetector k
!!/test Cur Q Flex
 
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
 
!!/blacklist-keyword cur\W?q\W?flex
 
@iBug You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1500 for you.
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
11:17 AM
@SmokeDetector f
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: www.garciniacambogialean.com/testro-t3 by Sact1938 on askubuntu.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
fp- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: And, as the case may be that’s for that cause you’re here. by Witho19 00 on superuser.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad pattern in URL body: Crazy bulk Winsol by johnnyparckar on apple.SE
tpu- by rene
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: The In Shape Weight Lessening Cleanse by CharlCox on graphicdesign.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Formula focus reviews Decrease your sugar utilization by fpx05622 on superuser.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)
 
11:35 AM
sd 2k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body: www.click2trial.com/androtestin/ by RickyByrd on askubuntu.com
 
sd k
 
12:11 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in answer: ERR_SPDY_PROTOCOL_ERROR on facebook and wikipedia by ayeshaji on superuser.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +4 more: lumalifteye.com/dermiva-anti-aging-cream/ by user782316 on askubuntu.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +2 more: Follicle Rx - Strengthen & Thicken by eraldussell on meta.SE (@iBug)
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL-only title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more: foreverhealthy786.com/nuvigorrx/ by kgpt on askubuntu.com
 
12:27 PM
sd k
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +1 more: advisorwellness.com/test-troxin/ by BarbaraNewton on workplace.SE
 
@SmokeDetector k
 
tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto on Obviously, working out regularly [MS]
 
!!/test cur q flex
 
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, blacklisted website in body, link following arrow in body, +2 more: PTX Male Enhancement-Made from natural ingredients by ptxmaleenhancementpills on webapps.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
12:46 PM
sd k
 
I failed this audit on the low quality review: stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/18506962 What's so wrong with it?
 
@EricLeschinski Answer was removed... possibly spam/abusive/NAA (10K+ please see it)?
 
@EricLeschinski what are the odds? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/361263/…
^ the same post failed audit
 
I see it was removed by someone with 157k reputation. But that's an argument by authority. His reputation doesn't make him right.
Here is a screenshot for under 10k: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/361263/…
 
> That was unfortunately some user blitzing identical answers across multiple questions which attracted spam flags and the deletion by a mod caused those to be marked helpful on the post which made it a candidate for audit. You weren't to know that though, and in isolation it does look like a viable answer with a kind of "see it implemented here" link
by a Mod response.. probably bad luck
 
12:58 PM
Well that's crappy. It sounds like StackOverflow low quality review queue is increasing their workload for reviewers, you not only have to check for quality, but you also have to check for plagiarism and over-the-top self promotion.
 
Well, plagiarism may available as possible reason for deletion by mod, if the user copied verbatim from another source without proper attribution. I usually check current availability of the post during LQP review.
 
I'm #9 in the low quality review queue sitewide, so they're starting to "explore the fringes" of what constitutes low quality in their audits.
 
Sometimes I found code-only answer by 100K+ rep user... what should I do in review when found something like that? Here is an example: stackoverflow.com/a/48239254.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +5 more: foreverhealthy786.com/nuvigorrx/ by user272044 on apple.SE
tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto
 
If the user's reputation is over say 50 thousand, I generally give them a pass, if it's a blatant violation I edit the question to make it not a code only answer.
 
1:05 PM
@EricLeschinski Just skipped it since I'm not sure how to do and the answer may probably correct.
 
Looks better now (question as well)
 
I improved it. In the future do what I do and you'll work toward the reputation I have.
Code only answers are low quality and SUBJECT to deletion, it's not an absolute law. If the reputation is high enough, it warrants some extra effort to salvage the answer. Deleting it would destroy useful information. The question was terrible though before I used my fluent english skills to read his mind and translate it.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +4 more: foreverhealthy786.com/nuvigorrx/ by kgpt on apple.SE
tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto
 
@EricLeschinski I saw 3 of them.
I failed the 1st one and obviously passed the other two.
This is my meta post that Suraj Rao has already given it.
You can see the 2nd and 3rd appearance in the last paragraph.
 
I saw a question with "watch video tutorial on 'xxxxx'"... should I report it as spam even the 'xxxxx' contains YT video link, or just VTC as unclear?
 
1:14 PM
@TetsuyaYamamoto If it's a question with such word, give me the link and I'm going to you can flag it as spam :)
 
@iBug That's just a review audit, I want to clarify if it's truly spam video :)
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto For questions, feel sure to do so.
Be careful when it's an answer.
@EricLeschinski Here are the images for the 2nd and the 3rd audit.
@TetsuyaYamamoto For code-only answers, I always leave a comment from SEAutoReviewComments and click "Recommend Deletion".
 
1:39 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, no whitespace in answer: Java GUI Scientific Calculator by jack on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)
fp- by Tetsuya Yamamoto
tpu- by Tetsuya Yamamoto
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, +2 more: All about Titanax by forel chutter on workplace.SE
tpu by Tetsuya Yamamoto
 
2:11 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Error while cross compiling Qt for a raspberry pi3 by wlhe on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)
fp- by iBug
 
@SmokeDetector I've edited that answer and added disclosure for the author.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Weather from terminal by wozoopa on askubuntu.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in body: How to get selected text from Windows active window to text-to-speech it? by Sam Smith on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)
fp- by iBug on Weather from terminal [MS]
fp- by iBug
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer, link at end of answer: Backlinks stopped showing up in Google Search Console by susamon maity on webmasters.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
2:26 PM
!!/test honeyadvertising.in
 
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
 
!!/watch honeyadvertising\.in
 
@iBug You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#1501 for you.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +4 more: foreverhealthy786.com/nuvigorrx/ by darkhast hai on astronomy.SE
tpu- by iBug
 
2:44 PM
@quartata Not sure what you are up to, but we always love fun, count us in :D
 
Restart: API quota is 12372.
tpu- by Henders
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Testro T3 muscles grow faster: by khilaq on webapps.SE
tpu- by iBug
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: How long does it take for a transaction with 0 fees to be confirmed or rejected? by JoeBlack on bitcoin.SE
naa- by iBug
 
3:13 PM
Spam?
> "If you have a question about pydantic please ask on stack overflow and include the tag pydantic and I'll endeavour to answer promptly."
The user has got nearly 2k rep as well :)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer, blacklisted user: do men ,on average, have a higher general intelligence score? and if yes do we know why? by Neuroscientia on psychology.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, +2 more: Where to Buy Titanax? by forel chutter on superuser.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)
tpu- by iBug
 
@JakeSymons Not spam this time given it's not a new user.
 
@iBug ok, its been deleted now :)
 
@JakeSymons Can you see who deleted it?
 
What a nut job - been on SO long enough to get almost 2k, and reacts like that?
It was a self deletion I think
 
3:26 PM
I think so, too.
But that's surely not someone who knows well how SO works should do.
 
Yeah, they must have been on SO a while to get 2k rep
 
@PetterFriberg The idea is kinda similar to the apicache but much more extensive. Basically this central server will do all of the scanning for posts (questions, answers, comments, edits, and reviews are the ones I plan to have) and the posting to chat -- the bots can become little AWS lambdas that receive requests with the post batches and return true/false (Smokey) or scores (Natty)
 
A question for rpi/python people - how can I open my script via ssh and leave it running ready for commands? As in I want to be able to open, then type function and have it run said function
 
@JakeSymons In fact, 2k rep could be rather easy in a week if you can spend extra time.
Though it's often less likely for new users.
@CalvT븃 User tmux
 
> Member for 6 years, 4 months
 
3:29 PM
I use tmux on my RPi to allow programs to be running after disconnecting from SSH.
 
@CalvT븃 or screen
 
@quartata tmux is very flexible after learning to use it.
 
Not bothered about after I disconnect
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: How do I build a post_thumbnail based archive? by harsclimate on wordpress.SE
 
Oh. Start your initial function in a thread from the REPL
erlang style
 
3:30 PM
fp- by iBug
 
@iBug screen usually comes by default on a lot of machines though
 
@quartata You won :)
 
Ok I'll check it out thanks
 
CI on 72e91ff succeeded.
 
@CalvT븃 So like for Smokey (although this wouldn't have nocrash):
$ python3
>>> import threading
>>> def f(): import ws
>>> threading.Thread(target=f).start()
then detach from your screen
 
3:36 PM
The CI builds failed for whatever reason that shouldn't have been.
The duplicate entry in watched keywords is removed already.
 
CI on a974e2f succeeded.
 
Art already fixed it
But no the duplicate entry was removed after
!!/pull
 
@quartata CI build is still pending, wait until the build has finished and then pull again.
CI on 5a3f4b7 succeeded.
 
!!/pull
 
3:42 PM
what the hell are you doing Art
oh I see it reran on the merge commits. fun.
 
Restart: API quota is 11953.
 
!!/test cur q flex
 
> Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username
----------
Title - Position 1-11: cur q flex
Body - Position 1-11: cur q flex
Username - Position 1-11: cur q flex
 
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
> Url in title
----------
Title - Position 1-24: http://sdfiugspivbdr.ir
CI on a3dc567 succeeded.
CI on 9487a3f succeeded.
 
3:47 PM
@quartata merging many things
 
Um...
Isn't What the hell considered expletive?
I've been trying to avoid this by using What the heck.
 
eh
 
At least heck doesn't sound so strong compared to hell.
 
depends on your background, mostly
 
@ArtOfCode Means "conditionally acceptable"?
 
3:50 PM
Christians tend to react more strongly to it; the US reacts more strongly to it than the UK, etc etc
It doesn't even register for me :P
 
Por lo que te guste :)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Taking this pill is simple by user181461 on physics.SE
tpu- by ArtOfCode
 
4:15 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: CLICK HERE @>>> supplement4fitness.com/lejune-essential-skincare-cream/ by mewenhi on superuser.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)
 
haven't seen link following arrow in title in a while, must not be paying attention
 
4:29 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, mostly dots in answer: Ubuntu 16.04 Xenial can't remove grid from menu icons by Pepeno on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)
 
@ArtOfCode So when I made this originally I set it up so that you need to be logged in to create a bot (obviously) but to update an existing one you just need to provide a secret token (the same one it uses to authenticate to the lambda). The intent was to make it so that people could update from CI but it feels clunky
Now we've got a weird mixture of routes that require being logged in and those that don't
Not sure what you think
 
consistency is good
flexibility is also good
why can't all routes accept both
 
I guess you could be logged in and present an ID or present a token yeah
I'll make a helper
The former would be easier for the frontend
Which is why I agree having both is good
 
4:55 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, potentially bad keyword in body: httpwwwbesthealthdietcomtitanax by Werew1962 on graphicdesign.SE
 
well, I'm not, nor is everyone else for that matter
 
tpu- by John Dvorak
 
That user had 1 gold badge and 150 rep, not a 1 rep user
 
that just go the -100 rep penalty.
 
Why did Smokey not pick up the bad word?
I'm not going to repeat it to test in the chat, but I assume that its picked up?
@rene If your question is marked as spam that's -100 rep, that's a lot
But nothing less then the OP deserved of course
 
5:07 PM
!!/test test
 
> Would not be caught as a post, title or username.
 
!!/test cunt
 
> Offensive body detected, offensive title detected
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Title - Offensive keyword: *cunt*
Post - Offensive keyword: *cunt*
 
@ArtOfCode thanks for taking it out the box, looks much better :)
 
Maybe @Undo needs to check on this if there is maybe an account breach or somenthing.
Just to not invoke the penalty if it is an accident.
 
5:09 PM
That's the second user with rep that's posted something strange today
 
Isn't the third week in January known for getting a depression? Maybe it is early this year?
 
5:40 PM
@rene Winter late-january onset Seasonal induced depression is a neurotransmitter feedback loop between the human brain and the function of the human epidermis (skin) to convert Ultraviolet rays from God's yellow sun into the vitamin D3. Contrary to what the pill manufacturers who sell D3 suggest, you can't get D3 in sufficient quantity by pills.
The brain misinterprets the absence of D3 as something critically wrong with the sunlight (an extinction level event is here) or the organism is being ostracized by the group, and personality changes are needed. The way the organism carries out these changes is to segregate the self from the others, to ponder and think of the nature of the malfunction, so it can be corrected.
Christians have figured out some 2000 years ago that december is a good time for cheer-everyone-up christmas because that's when seasonal depression hits hardest. I could go on about the cellular mechanisms that undergird this feedback loop, but this is enough for you to go chase it down.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer, blacklisted user: Do men, on average, have a higher general intelligence score? by Neuroscientia on psychology.SE
 
@SmokeDetector I flagged that post 2 hours ago
@EricLeschinski is that copy and pasted,
Also, coincidence that that is followed by a phycology flag from Smokey? Timing :)
 
@JakeSymons Nope! I just pulled it out of my ass just now.
 
> Science blogger. Knows about brain and IQ test.
> Knows about brain test
I'm happy for you glad you know that
 
It's true for me, I always get depressed in December and January, I fix it by taking off my shirt and going outside for a run in the noon day sun.
 
5:43 PM
@rene I've looked. That's about all I can say.
 
tpu- by Jake Symons
 
@EricLeschinski I thought it'S because sunlight is weakest in winter and not enough sun = depression. I guess vitamin d3 is the mechanism by which this happens, then?
 
depends on your latitude. I had to disprove the sun thing to some health folks a while back
mostly it was me being frustrated and them being stubborn, but hey
 
Seasonal affective disorder (SAD) is a mood disorder subset in which people who have normal mental health throughout most of the year exhibit depressive symptoms at the same time each year, most commonly in the winter. People may sleep too much or have little energy. The condition in the summer can include heightened anxiety. In the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders DSM-IV and DSM-5, its status was changed. It is no longer classified as a unique mood disorder but is now a specifier, called "with seasonal pattern", for recurrent major depressive disorder that occurs at a specific...
 
@Magisch The sun's fusion output doesn't fluctuate. The 23 degree axis tilt of the earth causes some decrease, but the most important factor is that it gets cold in the winter time and people put layers of animal-skins over their legs and chest area, blocking reception of ultraviolet. It's not the lack of sunlight, it's the lack of D3 plus the brain's over-reaction to the loss of the chemical.
 
5:50 PM
^ that
 
@EricLeschinski hmm. Interesting
Could that be fixed by getting a UV lamp at home and letting it shine on you?
Like make it weak enough so you don't get sunburn and maybe have it shine on you while you sleep
or something
 
To experiment yourself, when you get depressed, schedule a direct sunlight sit-on-the-beach day. It's wintertime so you'll need a method to stay warm enough, like for example running to keep warm. Make sure not to do this through UV shielded glass, because that blocks the mechanism your cells use to generate D3.
 
also you need to get the right kind of UV lamp
namely one that produces UV-B
 
D3's other name is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholecalciferol I'm not sure about the viability of indoor UV lamps. Someone should do a study.
 
5:56 PM
@EricLeschinski well, after that lecture, you got me depressed, congrats on that .. ;)
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Number Patterns In Java by Alee Ahmed on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)
 
1120 W/m^2 * 0.03 ~= 33.6 W/m^2
so plausible
 
@EricLeschinski d3 synthesis is based on a cholesterol precursor interacting with UV radiation of a specific frequency (energy, technically). So if your lamp produces that frequency, then it'll work. In theory.
 
So you could get a UV lamp, get naked, and let it shine on you
 
5:57 PM
and get tan?
 
in theory
 
if you want skin cancer yes
 
Enough to make enough D3 but not too much so you get sunburn
So what you're saying is tanning beds reduce depression?
O_o
 
@Magisch fun fact: there is an industry around this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoor_tanning
 
@Magisch reduce SAD, yes, no effect on clinical depression
 
5:59 PM
I wonder what the difference between seasonal affective disorder and actual depression is
Not sure if I ever had SAD but the one brush I've had with what I suspect was what clincial depression feels like was like a 2 day long medicine induced nightmare trip
 
Also depression is a phenomenon shared among all variations of the human species, and most of our primate relatives and many mammals. So depression isn't a bug, it's a feature. In machine learning you learn about decision trees and the "dropoff" parameter. Periodically you damage the model to properly generalize. Human brains do this, depression is about deletion of defective models due to ostracism that is causing neurotransmitter imbalances, forcing you to isolate yourself in shade.
 
@Magisch SAD is a mental response to a chemical deficiency. Clinical depression is a mental health disorder caused by genetic and psychological factors in combination.
 
Our rodent ancestors, the part of your midbrain where it evolved, knew that spending too long underground was a recipe for extinction.
 
The pills I was taking had depression listed as a side effect
or "depressive tendencies" w/e
 
MDD is "officially" defined as episodal with a 2+ week period
 
6:03 PM
Depression repulses women at the limbic system level. It's a communication that the male is defective, our rodent ancestors spend too long underground, lack of D3 = broken. Don't mate with this one. This is why pfizer big-pharma pills are causing depression uptick. Caveman are fucking around with the jet engine of our brain, and the 350 million year old part of our brain is using the only tool it has to fix it.
Ever since I figured this stuff out, I've been a bundle of joy and happiness ever since. :-P Even through winter.
 
The medication was supposed to make it easier to ignore multiple people talking at once / overstimulation in general
 
@EricLeschinski that... ain't true
well the latter half is
 
What it did instead was completly eliminate any motivation or emotion. Knowing how that felt I can see why people comitt suicide
 
@Magisch Suicide is a feature of the human race, not a bug. When the self determines that you're broken beyond repair, the optimal move is to remove self from gene pool. In optimally tuned genetic algorithms this is simulated by the prevention of the least fit to procreate. Suicide is one of the finely tuned keys to evolution and natural selection. Get rid of that and humans stop evolving.
 
@EricLeschinski no
 
6:13 PM
@EricLeschinski I'm gonna be frank: this is damaging misinformation. There are no scientific studies that corroborate that that I'm aware of (happy to be proven wrong on that), but more importantly propagating the idea that suicidal people are "broken beyond repair" and should be removed from the gene pool is harmful.
 
the logic conclusion from that statement would be that all animals races that don't practice suicide dont evolve
 
API quota rolled over with 10672 requests remaining. Current quota: 19999.
 
and it completly ignores that procreation needs the positive judgement of two people about each other
 
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@ArtOfCode Maybe it is, I'm not a doctor or psychologist so I just throw out theories, if they cause harm to people on the brink, that's unfortunate. I got my ideas from this article, indicating there is some connection between depression, suicide, cognitive improvement, and evolution: scientificamerican.com/article/depressions-evolutionary
 
6:20 PM
@EricLeschinski That's an interesting read, but I'm not convinced it's much more :)
 
@ArtOfCode I just realized I'm a colossal idiot
7
We only need one ChatX object
We get the generic bot account to listen in all of the rooms
 
@quartata you only just realised? ;)
 
Then if we want you can reply with a specific bot just by using the usual HTTP route and the session token manually
It's perfect
We don't have to modify ChatX at all
 
@quartata yeah that works
 
6:25 PM
hello I am bot feed me butter
 
ok all right
let's see here
 
fp- by DavidPostill
 
@Inferno bah why is your profile image not transparent
 
@ArtOfCode I copied it from the Blaze one
smokedetector's isn't either though
obviously we'll probably get something shinier for it
 
ugh
 
6:45 PM
OK so I've learned enough Rails to remember that helpers/ specifically are view helpers
I don't know why they call it that
 
Whats inferno?
I know its another bot but what does it do?
 
Nothing yet
 
@quartata what will it eventually do
 
@ArtOfCode This feels really clunky, how do I do a proper on duplicate key update?
          record = Command.find_by(:name => name)

          if record
            record.type = type
            record.data = data
            record.min = min_arity
            record.max = max_arity
          else
            Command.create(:name => name, :min => min_arity, :max => max_arity, :type => type, :data => data)
          end
 
Another post - stackoverflow.com/questions/48243214/…, just repeats "Please can one help me solve this question"
 
6:53 PM
@quartata Command.find_or_create_by(name: name).update(**params)
 
@JakeSymons it'll act as a centralized server to do post scanning
@ArtOfCode perfect thank you
although
 
@quartata So supporting smokey, or separate?
 
I don't have it in a dictionary so I still have to do the usual => stuff
@JakeSymons supporting any bot
 
@quartata you can have controller helpers too - throw a method in a controller, and put helper_method :my_method at the top, and it'll be available in controllers and views
 
@ArtOfCode I put it in ApplicationController
 
6:54 PM
yeah
 
as a protected method
 
if you want it for views too then stick the helper_method call at the top
 
7:07 PM
Ooh nice, Ruby has a Singleton mixin
I didn't know that
@ArtOfCode So is the AppConfig encrypted or no?
 
@quartata no
 
not sure what's safe to put in there
 
AppConfig is literally just a loaded YAML file
 
Oh, right. config.yml?
 
I believe the definition is quite literally AppConfig = YAML.load(Rails.root.join('config', 'config.yml').to_s)
 
7:10 PM
well it looks like we're putting stuff in there anyways so eh
 
@quartata yes, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea
 
Fair
I can prompt for a key via STDIN
just makes deploy more of a nuisance
 
no, don't make servers take STDIN
environment variables or config files
 
oh say
Yeah environmental variable was what I was going to say
A decent compromise
even though most likely it'll end up in a plaintext file anyways
but hey maybe not
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: Does inserting soap into the rectum relieve constipation? by NotMyName on skeptics.SE
 
7:15 PM
so half a mo
In stock Ruby symbols and strings can't be compared
But in Rails they can?
I don't like that Rails does hidden things like that...
or wait is it only when you make a HashWithIndifferentAccess
 
7:30 PM
yeah
you can compare them anytime, anyway
(:abc).to_s == 'abc'
and if you want to turn a regular hash into indifferent, just call {}.with_indifferent_access
 
That's a Rails method
 
Yeah
 
7:57 PM
@ArtOfCode usr is the cookie name, right?
It doesn't seem to show in document.cookie (I tried it here, maybe it only gets posted to the actual send message endpoints)
 
fp- by DavidPostill
 
@quartata why do you want the cookie
oh chat cookie?
 
20 hours ago, by quartata
I could force bots to implement a route that coughs up the session token but that's not much better
yeah
ChatExchange just saves all the cookies so I don't have anything to work with :P
 
sechatusr
 
thanks
 
8:05 PM
fp- by DavidPostill
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer: Looking for a World Airport Database by Jan vd Kerk on gis.SE
 
8:32 PM
tpu- by DavidPostill
Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1
Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1
Conflicting feedback across revisions: current, #1
 
@SmokeDetector f
 
@SmokeDetector As they don't disclose their affilation, is it spam?
 
@JakeSymons How do you know they are affiliated?
 
@DavidPostill I don't know which is why I am asking, because if they don't disclose that information, then that is spam, I'm taking this from the mod comment underneath
Although it is difficult to tell with questions asking to recommend a resource
 
8:50 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: Research Study on the Benefits and Drawbacks of Telework for Programmers by L Hughes on stackoverflow.com (@iBug @TetsuyaYamamoto)
tpu- by Jake Symons
 

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