talk.tryitonline.net

@Dennis I'd prefer if there were multiple examples (a dropdown), maybe in a subdirectory on the repo? I'd be fine with submitting PRs to the TIO repo to add more examples too

Dennis

@ASCII-only You've been busy today, haven't you? :P Syncing.

ASCII-only

@Dennis not that busy actually fixing the bugs, it takes surprisingly long to go through all the charcoal posts to see if anyone mentioned bugs

Dennis

Almost sounds like it were preferable if people reported them elsewhere.

DJMcMayhem

3:55 AM

@Dennis I really appreciate the switch languages button. I've been missing that feature for a while

Dennis

@DJMcMayhem Not sure I understand. That has been there since Nexus.

DJMcMayhem

One minor request: Could you change the V hello world to cGHello, World!? That way, it'll only print hello world even if there's input

@Dennis Wait really? I haven't seen it

And could you change the brain-flak one to the one wheatwizard came up with? (Try it online!

Dennis

@DJMcMayhem Yep. github.com/TryItOnline/tryitonline/commit/…

@DJMcMayhem Sure. The Hello World snippets were initially intended as tests (the idea to add them to the frontend came much later), so a few of them aren't exactly idiomatic.

Hm, I should probably save the state before loading the test. As it is, clicking that button is a tad destructive.

Done.

@DJMcMayhem And done.

@PeterTaylor I've added a Hello World button now that loads an example for the selected language.

ASCII-only

4:26 AM

@Dennis Yes >_> not entirely sure Neil knows about GitHub issues haha

luser droog

7:18 AM

Hi, everyone! What are the requirements for submitting a new language interpreter. I'm guessing it would be nice if it works simply with stdin/stdout. But for something like PostScript, the graphical output would be more useful.

Adám

7:40 AM

@Dennis +1 You added Hello World!

Fatalize

2:07 PM

@Dennis Can you please pull Brachylog?

Phlarx

3:15 PM

Could you change Chip's hello world to this? It uses some newer features, and it easier to understand: tio.run/##S87ILPj/…

Forgot to @Dennis, see above

Phoenix

5:33 PM

@luserdroog Graphical output is currently not possible, unless Dennis did something very recently.

The requirements are basically that A) it needs to run on Fedora Linux, B) you should be able to run it in a console with output to StdOut, C) it should not require network access, including sockets.

Would be great if C#'s hello world program could look like this:

using System;
public class App {
    static void Main(string[] args) {
        Console.WriteLine("Hello, World!";
    }
}

Perhaps with the first 3 lines in the header, and the last 2 in the footer.

@Dennis ^

Also, every Python's Hello, World! uses print with parentheses.

lit

5:57 PM

It appears that "Powershell" and "Powershell Core" are both v6.0.0-beta.1. Does TIO have any capability to support specific versions of a single language?

Phoenix

@lit Not right now, without hosting seperate versions as seperate languages.

Dennis

6:46 PM

@Fatalize Done.

@Phoenix Using header and footer isn't possible, at least not atm.

Phoenix

Oh well. Would still be nice to have proper whitespace and such.

Dennis

15 hours ago, by Dennis

@DJMcMayhem Sure. The Hello World snippets were initially intended as tests (the idea to add them to the frontend came much later), so a few of them aren't exactly idiomatic.

Phoenix

Also, I forgot this earlier, but by default when creating a C# project in VS, the main class is named class Program

So it's probably better than class App

Actually nevermind I'll make a pull request in a bit

Dennis

If it's for a bunch of languages, thank you in advance, but if it's only for one or two, it's almost easier to make the changes manually.

Phoenix

@Dennis I'm looking at several right now

Dennis

6:57 PM

:)

Uh oh, there already is a PR that modifies languages.json.

What happens if I accept that one now?

Phoenix

@Dennis I suppose there will be merge conflicts a bit later down that I'll have to resolve. Unless it's a really major change.

Which it doesn't seem to be.

Dennis

7:13 PM

Nah, just a couple of lines. If that won't create any major problems for you, I'll merge it.

Phoenix

Intresting, tcc's hello world uses puts, and the other Cs use printf

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@Dennis does the response field need to have a trailing \n if the Hello World program outputs with a newline?

Dennis

No, the test suite strips all surrounding whitespace.

Phoenix

Thanks

Dennis

7:31 PM

I merged the other PR. Please remember to account for that.

Phoenix

Yep

Peter Taylor

@Dennis Many thanks.

Phoenix

@Dennis No merge conflicts! Isn't it lovely when Git works how you want it to?

Step Hen

@Phoenix Except when it doesn't, and you have no clue why

Phoenix

(PR made)

Conor O'Brien

7:42 PM

@Dennis that's so cool! :D

kinda weird idea, but maybe also have like a dropdown for "important" programs, e.g., primality checking and addition? idk, might be a bit out of scope for TIO

problem: the shtriped Hello, World! outputs HW

Dennis

Printing the proper output in shtriped requiring counting up to 5735816763073854918203775149089. Until somebody writes an optimizing interpreter, that's a bit problematic.

Conor O'Brien

oh

I don't think so

I think I can get one

Dennis

7:59 PM

If you can, please go ahead. If someone wants to help, these are the languages that currently do not print Hello, World!. It might not be possible in some of them.

agony
brainbool
cow
emmental
grass
hbcht
i
incident
minimal-2d
parenthetic
snails
snusp
spl
surface
tinylisp
trumpscript
woefully
wsf

2

Phoenix

@Dennis wsf has a Hello, World!

Dennis

Not on TIO.

Phoenix

So does i

@Dennis Yes it does, I literally just ran it.

Dennis

The comma is missing.

Phoenix

Ah

Dennis

8:03 PM

And I prints the quotes. I don't think that can be prevented.

Phoenix

Ok, I see now.

Dennis

@Phoenix All live now. Thanks!

Step Hen

@Dennis TrumpScript is case insensitive, there's a deleted hello, world! in the Hello, World! question though

(I can find it if you want)

Phoenix

What is Brainbool even doing..?

Dennis

@StepHen That's what I have currently. It's in the list because of the lack of capitalization.

As I said, it might not be possible in some of them.

Step Hen

8:04 PM

@Dennis oh ok. my bad, thought that meant you had nothing

Phoenix

None of them have nothing

Dennis

Yes, all languages use something to test them.

Phoenix

I think it would make sense to add a disclaimer to brainbool that it can't actually write text.

Since it doesn't print anything like "Hello, World!"

Dennis

Or nag the author of the brainbool interpreter to add a text mode.

Phoenix

But you are the author of the brainbool interpreter.

Dennis

8:10 PM

I'm aware of that.

Phoenix

>.<

Conor O'Brien

8:32 PM

@Dennis Hello, World! Try it online!

(shtriped)

Phoenix

Dennis

@ConorO'Brien Nice! You should post that on main as well.

Conor O'Brien

I'll work on golfing it some more I think, but good idea!

Dennis

@Phoenix Link? Browser? Resolution?

Phoenix

Link is the Hello World Conor just posted, browser is chrome, resolution is 2560x1440, window maximized

OS is Windows 10

Conor O'Brien

8:38 PM

it's fine for me, firefox/win8

Dennis

Great, now I need a 1440p monitor.

Phoenix

Uriel

@Dennis chrome can emulate different resolutions (F12, Ctrl-Shift-M), reproduced with

Conor O'Brien

@Dennis codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/136229/31957

hello world for pyramid scheme

Phoenix

@Uriel Does nothing for me

Conor O'Brien

8:59 PM

in case you wanted a golfed version of the shtriped hw, here it is

Phlarx

@Dennis Hello, World! in Chip: tio.run/##S87ILPj/…

Phoenix

Also, Community protected Hello, World! again

Dennis

@Uriel Reproduced. ~~There goes my excuse for buying a 1440p monitor.~~ Thanks!

Conor O'Brien

tio.run/##HYpRCsAwDEKvFLVQcpwNxr7Wj8Ho8bMkKsJD1/…

numberwang HW based on primo's BF solution

Dennis

Not sure if that counts as idiomatic though.

Phoenix

9:12 PM

Chrome is bad at dealing with high resolutions.

My friend has a 4k monitor and all the buttons are tiny

Dennis

The obvious solution is to set your resolution to 1080p. :P

Or zoom.

Conor O'Brien

numberwang's other two commands are purely datasetting; 69 means increment by 9

Phoenix

@Dennis No, the UI buttons

Dennis

UI of what?

Phoenix

Chrome

Dennis

9:17 PM

Right. 1080p it is.

Conor O'Brien

tio.run/##yyvNTUotKk/MS///…

numberwang not based on primo's BF solution

1 character shorter

0

A: "Hello, World!"

Numberwang, 77 bytes 69696969696969693696969623673363316969696968359533059595636969663633563583193 Try it online! Just incrementing and decrementing the pointer by certain amounts.

Dennis

OK, I'll run all tests and commit. Thanks @ConorO'Brien and @Phlarx.

Conor O'Brien

no problem!

Dennis

All live.

Now do Half-Broken Car in Heavy Traffic. >_>

Conor O'Brien

9:33 PM

I might regret this. see you in an hour :P

so you want Hello, World! exactly? trailing newline?

Dennis

:D

Trailing or no trailing newline doesn't matter.

Conor O'Brien

kk

Dennis

@Dennis Updated.

Phlarx

@Dennis Good timing, because I also updated the hello world example in the Chip repository today

Phoenix

@Dennis freeformatter.com/javascript-escape.html automatically escapes strings. (I used it for a bit earlier before realizing I forgot to delete the \rs in \r\n)

Conor O'Brien

9:46 PM

@Dennis I think the person who programmed hbcht thinks one-letter variable names are cool :P

source code is spaghetti

Dennis

Broken source code for broken cars.

Conor O'Brien

XD

Phlarx

10:57 PM

Looking at the list of languages missing `Hello, World!`:
snails is a pattern-matcher, and it's only possible output is an integer for the number of matches found. Making 5735816763073854918203775149089 matches would be tough.
trumpscript is case-insensitive, so it will only ever print in lowercase.
Apart from those, the others all seem doable.

*assuming post-processing like boolean->ascii for boolfuck is cool