talk.tryitonline.net

2:48 AM

Yes, using libgomp with clang doesn't seem to be easy.

ASCII-only

@Dennis Can you pull Charcoal? Thanks

@ASCII-only Currently syncing.

3 hours later…

Conor O'Brien

5:28 AM

@Dennis Is it possible to make a certain program be encoded in, say, ANSI instead of the default UTF-8?

@ConorO'Brien For all programs in a certain language, yes. For a specific program, no, not yet.

Conor O'Brien

oh, ok.

You could always use a Bash wrapper. It's a bit cumbersome, but the only way at this point.

Conor O'Brien

that's a good idea, thanks!

5 hours later…

Peter Taylor

11:00 AM

@Dennis, do you have some kind of test suite for each language to check that it's working? If so, could you make them available as samples in the same way ideone does? I can't get even trivial programs in miniml which I think should work to run without errors, and it would be useful to see one which does.

2 hours later…

12:34 PM

@PeterTaylor Yes, I have Hello World tests to make sure the language isn't completely broken. For MiniML, that's tio.run/##y83My8zN@f8/N7FAoaC0JDkjsUhBySM1JydfRyE8vygnRVHp/38A. (I had already scheduled to add them to the frontend, but then the OS upgrade got in the way.)

4 hours later…

Phlarx

4:20 PM

@Dennis can you pull Chip when you get a chance?

4:33 PM

@Phlarx Done. Sync should compete in ~2 minutes.

Mayube

@Dennis can you pull braingolf pls and thanks

Pulled and syncing.

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Cows quack

5:45 PM

@Dennis sed now complains about unnamed labels, before it used to be okay with them

Looks like they finally fixed what I always assumed was a bug. Unfortunate for code golf...

Phlarx

6:00 PM

@Dennis Thanks!

4 hours later…

9:32 PM

@Dennis there?

Dennis is everywhere... but yes he's here

Can I make a feature request for TIO?

@sergiol Always here, wherever that is.

talk.tryitonline.net

For general discussion and feature requests regarding tryitonl...

@sergiol Sure!

9:35 PM

Debug pane should auto-uncollapse after click Run button. And it would be better if it would do it only in case of error.

that makes sense

The problem being, how do you identify an error.

@sergiol Ninja'd

any output to stderr?

@totallyhuman Nah.

9:37 PM

Output to STDERR can indicate an error.

@totallyhuman: beat me by a second.

but if there's output there's a good chance people want to see it

what @totallyhuman said - I was going to say that too!

and I pressed backspace outside the text input widget :P

which made browser went back

@totallyhuman I can live without the gazillion warnings gcc generates for the awful C code I write.

Christopher

9:38 PM

Also in some languages (cubicaly) output to stdrr is normal

may be this should be defined at language level?

@totallyhuman When APL issues evaluated input prompts (e.g. for numbers) it prints ⎕: to STDERR. I don't need to see that.

@sergiol Use a better browser. :P

@sergiol Yeah, maybe. But no-newline output in APL goes to STDERR.

the way i see it, when you use TryItOffline, you see them anyways

9:39 PM

for Tcl it does make sense to show

Would make sense to store as part of the URL.

@Dennis: Don't your browser go back when BS pressed outside a text control?

No, it does not.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i've yet to deal with C though so i can't really talk from that perspective

may be you don't have past history in your current tab?

9:41 PM

iirc, they removed that backspace thingy a few chrome updates ago

dunno about other browsers

Christopher

Yeah it was annoying

@sergiol For all 277 languages? That sounds cumbersome.

@Dennis could have a default that could be overridden per language?

277? :D

I was amazed and went to site to confirm 104+174= 278

@SocraticPhoenix Honestly, I think that would just be confusing.

caird coinheringaahing

9:45 PM

@sergiol name them all

Without using the site

It would almost be better to simply un-collapse it by default.

@Dennis yes probably..

@cairdcoinheringaahing lang1, lang2, lang3... lang278

and not auto-oncollapse for C as override?

@Adám o0 APL puts input prompts on stderr?

i mean auto-uncollapse*

9:47 PM

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@SocraticPhoenix brb, making 278 languages called lang<number>

:39018775 Only the mandatory marker for evaluated input. You can write anything to STDERR or STDOUT as you with. ⎕← is STDOUT and ⍞← is STDERR.

Heh, missed a few.

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Looks like I broke something.

@Dennis ←→ ←→ confusion.

@Adám Hm, yes, the URL could indeed store the state of the Debug section.

Although I sometimes open it to see how long the code took to run. Not sure everyone else needs to see that, and I probably wouldn't remember to close it before clicking Save.

9:55 PM

@Dennis Not the worst that could happen.

I guess not. I don't think this behavior would be obvious to users though, although if I can see this, you'll be able to as well is probably as intuitive as it gets.

@Dennis right./

@Dennis How would I execute C# code from Bash on TIO?

.NET or Mono?

.NET

~~But Mono might work, idk the difference~~ nvm OP said .NET

9:58 PM

Black magic.

Remove ln -f ../.code.tio code.cs if you call the file code.cs.

@Adám What do you mean

@Dennis Um... how would I work it into the following?

https://tio.run/##lVXtf9o2EP7uv@IKZNiFGNI2ewkhG2tplo0mWZruLUkzYR@2NlvyJDkvTdm/np1sA6bNfr9WH0DcPbp77rmTmDId3983H/WmXPSm9MNxmp@xnCbcylxBpmSkWAqRRA1cgIkRZlxpA0xFeYrC@GDBn7ws2MRK5lEsc1PE04HimelaMyJkMhchaB4JXYC5CHnADJKbGUsK0pzSpzLks1vQMkUTcxEVND6nQMdIw5Jh36HgsAeKidAPnCgIqi1symJX6AYvj05gNJnAZHS4/2a0P369U5gB@KwUKpBpxhNUPS4MqkwhfYJADDUwCFAZRurNCAF4Y1BoLkUXWBgCJxEktK3QbZhiIq99x8EgltBobTWImfWsSDw/enV8MBm/@JiJDUYsUuKsbUg6F@YBlvTwBoPcsCnlj1EhpWgC@qQa2IptirLiMtlMKtBG2Ya3XL9nZfCcUDqLJpLvUvN3OGzdNWk/XzoK3psCobWAQPvctNf91kd10advbsyqtIPD0/HJ8cn49KHqFGYJo2raNX0rveCam7gss@b0q9bQScFSDCuJuxDETERodS9PGyn9T5D3IQJ…

I'm not good at bash, sorry, and the directory-changing is messing with me

@sergiol Dennis answered with my intended follow-up question: How do you know if an error happened?

not getting what Ninja has to do with

@MDXF I'm as lost as you are. I didn't write any of this.

10:01 PM

@Dennis Ah... okay, I'll try to mess with it

@Dennis how about Mono?