The Nineteenth Byte

HyperNeutrino

11:01 PM

er... looks heavily underspecified in my opinion

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

I want you to make my headphones noise canceling! Input Sound from the default mic on the computer it is run on. Output The sound inverted and and volume halved via the default sound output. Rules Standard loopholes. Winning: Shortest delay from input to output.

Downgoat

is there a way to see how many downvotes specifically a user has posted?

trichoplax

11:18 PM

@Downgoat Bottom right of the activity page of the profile

(scroll right down)

Downgoat

@trichoplax oh thanks

trichoplax

:)

Downgoat

this is good way to filter good candidates for mod :P

trichoplax

Might be nice to have a list of such lesser known data if ever there's a need for another election...

ATaco

Downgoat

11:25 PM

~~guess I'm never voting for a taco~~ WAIT WHAT

:| how can I be downgoat but have more upgoats

betseg

maybe you're an upgoat after all :O

Upside-down goat.

Hi guys

o/

I got 13 upvotes on one of my questions today!

ATaco

11:38 PM

Congrats.

Noah Cristino

I'm so proud: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/135417/reverse-array-sum/…

38 answers lol

betseg

i got 9 :(

caird coinheringaahing

@NoahCristino people tend to answer trivial questions in bulk

HyperNeutrino

Can someone who knows math do a sanity-check on this answer of mine?

Noah Cristino

Yea, Erik answered like 7 times

HyperNeutrino

11:41 PM

I mean, I cite Wikipedia as a source so it's probably not reliable, but... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Step Hen

@NoahCristino The answers show it's trivialish, the upvotes show it's a good question :P

caird coinheringaahing

@NoahCristino get used to it :P Him and Leaky Nun will have at least half the answers on any good question

Noah Cristino

@HyperNeutrino I'm 14, I think this is a little to complex

HyperNeutrino

lol I'm 15 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Step Hen

@NoahCristino I think he is too though, or close to that

caird coinheringaahing

11:41 PM

@HyperNeutrino me too!

HyperNeutrino

@StepHen sike I'm more than that

caird coinheringaahing

@StepHen how old are you?

Step Hen

@HyperNeutrino I meant almost as in approximately

HyperNeutrino

Ah ok.

caird coinheringaahing

@StepHen come into my lair

HyperNeutrino

11:42 PM

Typically "almost 14" means "not quite 14" :P

Noah Cristino

almost 15

HyperNeutrino

hey I'm 5 Math.SE rep away from being able to see blue circles

Step Hen

@cairdcoinheringaahing 18, just graduated high school so I can say bye to you kids soon and go to college

Noah Cristino

What do you mean blue circles?

Step Hen

:P

HyperNeutrino

11:42 PM

@NoahCristino The dreaded Chat Flags

caird coinheringaahing

@NoahCristino don't worry about it

Noah Cristino

oh

HyperNeutrino

They're not too common (I hope). At least not here.

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino should we get Noah learning Jelly?

HyperNeutrino

Ooh interesting idea.

caird coinheringaahing

11:43 PM

@NoahCristino do you want to learn a new programming language?

Step Hen

um I wouldn't start on Jelly xD

ATaco

You should learn RProgN2

HyperNeutrino

@NoahCristino Would you be interested in learning Jelly? It's the language I used first to answer your challenge (+U)

Noah Cristino

I tried to learn jelly before

Sure

HyperNeutrino

Ooo :D

Step Hen

11:44 PM

It also blows your brain if you've never done functional or tacit programming

caird coinheringaahing

@NoahCristino how much did you learn?

Noah Cristino

I looked at it

and quit

caird coinheringaahing

@NoahCristino tio.run/#jelly

HyperNeutrino

lol

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/57815/jelly-hypertraining <-- don't go here yet lol

ATaco

RProgN2 is a stackbased golf-language like golf-script except it doesn't make anywhere near as much sense.

HyperNeutrino

11:45 PM

This is our training room.

Noah Cristino

I know one thing in jelly

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino You know there's a Jelly chat room, right?

HyperNeutrino

Stack based golfing languages are a lot easier to understand, but are usually not as short

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino let's wait a bit until Hypertraining

HyperNeutrino

@MDXF Yes I know that :P

Noah Cristino

11:45 PM

nvm

ATaco

Still has the shortest quine :P

HyperNeutrino

Let's not scare him away :P

Noah Cristino

accept my access

HyperNeutrino

@ATaco that's because you cheat >.< jk

@NoahCristino You'll have to wait for Erik or Leaky to do that.

MD XF

Are there any more commonly used code pages that I forgot?

HyperNeutrino

11:46 PM

They're the teachers.

ATaco

« . ` is the shortest non-cheating quine.

Step Hen

@MDXF Although no one uses it (that I know of) Extended ASCII might want a place

Noah Cristino

@HyperNeutrino I requested access

caird coinheringaahing

@NoahCristino until they let you in, do you want to learn some basic Jelly?

MD XF

@StepHen Extended ASCII == CP-1252

Step Hen

11:47 PM

@MDXF I thought it was probably one of those abbreviations, thanks

ATaco

@MDXF Win-1252 != Extended Ascii

Noah Cristino

Sure @cairdcoinheringaahing

caird coinheringaahing

@MDXF en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page

@NoahCristino do you know what TIO is?

Noah Cristino

Yup

Try it online

the website

MD XF

@ATaco It isn't?!?

caird coinheringaahing

11:48 PM

Find the Jelly TIO page (tio.run/#jelly) and right click on "Jelly"

ATaco

Extended ascii is ascii with box drawing characters and such.

Win-1252 is the generic international character set.

HyperNeutrino

0/10 use Ctrl-Click

Also we got a new OE monad today \o/

Noah Cristino

I did that

MD XF

Huh... either way, the ASCII table link has Extended ASCII in it too

caird coinheringaahing

@NoahCristino have you got the github page open?

Noah Cristino

11:49 PM

yes

ATaco

TMK Win-1252 has all of Extended Ascii.

caird coinheringaahing

Click on the link to "Atoms" at the bottom of the README

Noah Cristino

Step Hen

@NoahCristino Now turn your keyboard into a keyboard that can type out 256 different random weird characters, or just CtrlC CtrlV them all the time

Phoenix

@HyperNeutrino 0/10 use middle click

Step Hen

11:50 PM

^^

caird coinheringaahing

@NoahCristino thats all the commands we're going to use at the moment

ATaco

I use Middle-click...

caird coinheringaahing

@NoahCristino the first program you should try is adding 2 numbers together

Noah Cristino

Yea, how do you type all these special characters?

ok caird

caird coinheringaahing

@NoahCristino copy and paste

HyperNeutrino

11:51 PM

0/10 I don't have a middle-click

ATaco

I made a-ta.co/jelly with the intention of having all documentation there and easy to search, you can also type Ctrl-S, type a name or function of an atom, and press enter to insert it.

It doesn't support input though.

HyperNeutrino

Oh wait my mouse is right next to me plugged into my laptop lol

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino 0/10 bluetooth mice

HyperNeutrino

0/10 too confusing

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino Jelly?

Noah Cristino

11:52 PM

tio.run/##y0rNyan8/99I2@j/fwA

done

caird coinheringaahing

@NoahCristino can you take input?

Noah Cristino

oh

Ill add that in

caird coinheringaahing

@NoahCristino see where it says "Arguments", use that rather than "Input"

HyperNeutrino

Here @NoahCristino: Open up this TIO link and modify the code section to make it add the numbers together.

well actually never mind then :P

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino I had a spoiler, keep yours

HyperNeutrino

11:54 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing please don't give answers away until after the student has done it themselves or cannot figure it out.

Noah Cristino

I tried ɠ+4

and it didn't work

caird coinheringaahing

@NoahCristino try the link that Hyper gave you ^^^

HyperNeutrino

Don't use the input atom for now.

Use Arguments. Jelly uses command line arguments rather than input.

I don't even actually know what ɠ+4 does :P

Noah Cristino

ok

ɠ

said it got a line from STDIN

HyperNeutrino

Oh yeah that takes input which you can't add to an integer because it's taking a string from STDIN

caird coinheringaahing

11:56 PM

@NoahCristino ignore that for the moment

HyperNeutrino

I've never used the input/output commands in my entire Jelly career; I've always used the implicit left/right arguments and implicit return value output.

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino do you want to take over, or am I fine helping?

Noah Cristino

³+⁴

got it

caird coinheringaahing

@NoahCristino Jelly has implicit input, which means you don't need to refer to it. You should be able to remove 2 characters from that

Noah Cristino

So just +

HyperNeutrino

11:58 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing You're fine helping :)