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2:00 PM
@allquixotic I can't find "steamln" on google, are there any docs or tutorials?
 
Weird spam is weird
 
Split personality much?
The full text continues: "You better stop because I will call the cops. Please contact me. I’m very upset about this."
 
Looks like an FMLA to me
 
@Burgi On the news today: @OliverSalzburg is actually Galactus!
 
2:01 PM
She must be complaining that outlook is configured with Anais as her signature.
 
@NotAdminDave Sounds reasonable :D
 
note to self: don't use nemotile as a supplier for anything. they've been compromised.
 
@OliverSalzburg amoral es...
 
fixed
:D
 
@NotAdminDave I see no difference
 
2:08 PM
Company logo^
 
rpc named pipes are non routable right?
yeah nm
 
this freelancer is taking forever...
 
2:26 PM
pretty good deal
only for prime members though.
 
must... resist... temptation...
-> 1 click purchase -> qty: 10
 
Good evening, sunshine :)
How are you all!
 
2:44 PM
No sunshine. Everything is dull and gray and a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy.
Yah, I'm having trouble sleeping. Can you tell?
 
@Nick i live in Manchester. It rains 400 days a year here.
@ThatREDACTEDGuy alots of alcohol solves that issue
 
So, today we have an... interesting situation at work.
We had a minion trainee who abandoned us for greener pastures dollars.
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy which government minister has been arrested today?
@ThatREDACTEDGuy i can relate to that :'(
 
And we quickly got a new trainee, in less than a week he was up and working.
 
has he run away too?
 
2:48 PM
No... Turns out no one filled the papers to put him in the billing system
We just found out yesterday as he completed his first month and went "hey, where's my money"
 
do you get paid weekly?
@ThatREDACTEDGuy i'll be honest this sounds normal for REDACTED
 
And so it fell upon me, a lowly grunt, to navigate the bureaucracy of a fellow team member.
I had forgot that when the previous trainee was hired my boss asked me to sign my name as "backup contact" responsible for his internship. And, well, my boss stepped out so... Yay.
 
@Burgi Atleast you get to ride dragons
 
@Burgi Monthly. New guy's been here for a month.
Due to some bureaucratic constraint, if they put him in the system now he'll be getting his first payment in September.
So their solution is "we'll keep paying the old guy and have him handle the new guy the money"
@Burgi This sounds normal. FOR A MADHOUSE!
Jul 6 at 14:31, by That REDACTED Guy
OH FUCK WAIT WHAT IF THIS IS AN INSANE ASYLUM IN DISGUISE!
Jul 6 at 14:32, by That REDACTED Guy
It would explain OH DEAR GOD SO MANY THINGS
THE SUSPICION INTENSIFIES
 
:O
 
3:02 PM
Fedora 26 is out, time to upgrade!
Hm? My work PC is still on Fedora 24...
Here it goes, two long upgrade processes.
I think I'll let it upgrading to 25 when I leave and try it for a week, then upgrade to 26.
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy might be time to change your name to @ThatInsaneGuy
 
@Burgi That's our secret, Captain, we're all always insane here in Redactia!
3 minutes to download 5 GB. In fact, considerig the network speed and the PC'snon-speed, it's faster to disable deltarpm and download the packages in full.
 
3:18 PM
:envies:
 
@ToxicFrog That's one of the rare perks of my job.
On some quiet days I even bring my laptop here to download my Steam library when the workload is low and the network is idleish
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy We had a party to celebrate.
 
@Nick Who is "we"?
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy Well, not the peeps in this room. Some people where I'm at IRL
 
@Burgi just do, what I did - improve the ignore list
 
3:26 PM
Wait, does that mean @tereško is ignoring me? But why?!
 
@tereško why are we ignoring REDACTED?
 
"We"? What, now @Burgi is ignoring me too?
 
ignoring who?
 
3:47 PM
because he's annoying
 
i find him quite entertaining
 
C'mon, are my unfunny jokes that unfunny?
 
No
I support you
For I have been in your place
 
Well, can't please everyone.
 
4:11 PM
##/learn okay <>https://i.stack.imgur.com/Tk2Fy.jpg
 
@bwDraco Command okay learned
 
Turns out there's a bug report on this issue: bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1304389
recovery.js on my external SSD profile is 1.6 MB.
Jun 16 at 3:44, by bwDraco
So... an update on the Bifrons SSD write offloading experiment. With the profile stored on a portable SSD and using CrystalDiskInfo's logging function, I've determined that on this system, Firefox does about 2-4 GB of writes in a typical day of web browsing. Most of this consists of random writes of varying block sizes.
(Firefox is configured to write out the recovery data every 30 seconds - the default is every 15 seconds)
 
4:27 PM
@bwDraco Hm, didn't know it, good to know!
 
> Speaking of Telemetry, FX_SESSION_RESTORE_FILE_SIZE_BYTES should answer some questions. For example, 89.25% of release channel users have a file < 1,120,000 bytes and 74.58% of users are < 317k. There is a worrying amount of users with large files though.
(old; I'm looking through the public telemetry data right now)
 
Hello
 
@Rahul2001 Hello. Got your devices back?
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy Yeah... for 8 minutes
 
4:30 PM
Found this gem in the school library today:
 
So, just under 3% of users have session store sizes exceeding 7.5 MB.
 
@DavidPostill It ships with Windows, I think?
 
That should put an end to the dissenters who said Calibri could not possibly have been used on 4th February 2006.
 
@Rahul2001 That sucks. Hope you can move to a better situation. Do you have public universities with dorms in India?
 
4:37 PM
@ThatREDACTEDGuy A few of them.
 
@Rahul2001 Yes, but there is a big argument about when the font became available to the public.
 
@DavidPostill Who are they?
@DavidPostill Seriously?
 
13
Q: When was Calibri font made available for use?

zhkThe background of this question is that the Pakistan Supreme Court is investigating the Panama leaks. The current prime minister of Pakistan and his family are being probed for alleged money laundering. Among other allegations, the Joint Investigation Team alleged that the PM's daughter forged ...

 
@Rahul2001 Well, in the worst case scenario, you can apply to one of those and move to a dorm and get a job and move out of home.
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy Yeah, hopefully
okay wot
Calibri () is a humanist sans-serif typeface family designed by Lucas de Groot in 2004 and reached the general public on January 30, 2007, with the release of Microsoft Office 2007 and Windows Vista on that date. In Microsoft Office 2007, it replaced Times New Roman as the default typeface in Word and replaced Arial as the default in PowerPoint, Excel, Outlook, and WordPad. It continues to be the default in Microsoft Office 2010, 2013 and 2016, and it is now the default font in Office for Mac 2016. A subtly rounded design, de Groot described it as having "a warm and soft character". Calibri is...
> This article is currently protected from editing until July 18, 2017, or until editing disputes have been resolved.
@David minor type:
> Plenty of people has access to the font before it was released to the general public as part of a retail product.
 
4:42 PM
@Rahul2001 Thanks.
 
This is huge news nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/politics/… (limited free access)
Here's my statement and the full email chain https://t.co/x050r5n5LQ
Here is page 4 (which did not post due to space constraints). https://t.co/z1Xi4nr2gq
 
@Rahul2001 I actually used those in 2002 at uni and then again in 2007 at another course.
No wait, the 2007 one was Pascal. Yay keeping up with the times!
 
Hahahah
> Following the font fiasco, the Calibri Wikipedia page has seen some strange and elevated activity all of a sudden. Since yesterday, there have been 25 revisions on the page by 15 different users.
 
gtg, time's up
goodnight folks
 
@Rahul2001 Time's up?
 
5:02 PM
19 mins ago, by bwDraco
This is huge news https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/politics/trump-russia-email-clinton.html (limited free access)
This is absolutely huge. We now have the first solid indications of collusion between Trump and the Kremlin.
 
If you read to the end, though, apparently nothing came of the meeting
 
Obviously, more investigation is needed, but this could be the start of something big.
 
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nICE
SE can finally make some moneys
 
5:43 PM
meh, its builtin to bitbucket for free
 
5:59 PM
@Burgi What, really? Bitbucket offers SE-style Q&A for teams? For free?
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy well there is a wiki
 
Hm, are there any open source SE clones? Being decent is a huge plus.
The list at http://alternativeto.net/software/stackoverflow/ isn't too promising...
 
There are boatloads of varying quality
783
Q: Stack Exchange clones

Andrija CacanovicListed here are clones of the Stack Exchange sites model.

 
also sharepoint 365 has a basic SE clone
 
6:01 PM
@BenN thanks!
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy sharepoint! ;P
 
@bwDraco $10 saving, awesome
 
@Burgi I only know two things about sharepoint: (1) it exists, (2) everyone who had contact with it seems to regret it.
 
lol, very true
but if you are paying for O365 for business SP is bundled in there for free
and you can limit it to your organisation
 
I hear it's very powerful and can do a lot of things, but I get the vague feeling that trying to make it do those things would take forever
 
6:05 PM
there is a default installation that does a SE clone
 
> I hear it's very powerful and can do a lot of things, but I get the vague feeling that trying to make it do those things would take forever
Did you mean: Drupal?
 
lol
 
Hehe, I have not had the pleasure of interacting with Drupal
 
I'm not kidding. That six-figure install I mentioned the other day, it's so simple to sticky some posts to a section home it only took me the whole evening to figure it out and write a quick 80 step tutorial.
 
i'm listening out for a diesel van that indicates the tesco man is here with my fortnightly noms
 
6:08 PM
Is it worth losing 200 MHz to get two extra cores?
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy Ouch
 
A huge part of the blame lies on the "developers" who built threw it on a pile and bashed on the keyboard until it ran. And charged a six figure value for that. And were paid.
Oh, ask.fedoraproject.org uses AskBot!
 
i say his name and he appears!
 
@Burgi Beetlejuice?
 
6:17 PM
sings TescoMan! TescoMan! Delivers Everything a Tesco Stocks! In a van!
 
6:34 PM
> You will need to speak fluent German but they can take people in Berlin or Potsdam. Excellent working environment, best salaries and benefits in the market!! Let me know
wut
Why would anyone think I can?
 
its @OliverSalzburg tryign to hire you
afk, pub quiz
 
> Get in touch with us on 0345 605 5825 to secure your allocated appointment.* We’ll then ensure your meters are installed quickly, safely and with no inconvenience to you or your home.
> Your electricity will need to be turned off for a short time, including unplugging any sensitive electrical equipment.
yes.... that's an inconvience.
 
7:09 PM
welp. Today's Patch Tuesday.
Time for Windows Updates!
 
@djsmiley2k I suppose they assume everyone only uses laptops or has a UPS
Well, I have the External Graphics Development Kit -- a literal kit of 3 products -- installed and working 100% on my 13" 2016 MBP running macOS 10.13 Beta 3. Any questions or curiosities while I have it running?
It's a Sapphire Radeon RX 580, a Sonnet eGFX Breakaway Box 350, and a Belkin 4-port USB-C to USB-A hub for peripherals. Until they update their drivers, to get 3D rendering outside of OpenCL/Metal apps, you have to plug an external monitor into the RX 580 directly; the laptop's display renders on the Intel iGPU, as do any monitors directly plugged into the laptop's TB3 ports.
I believe you can do OpenCL and Metal 2 to the Radeon without an external display, but you can't game on it that way.
cc @bwDraco @Bob @JourneymanGeek (the usual suspects)
 
7:26 PM
@allquixotic Not too familiar with this kind of setup.
 
I'm going to try pool mining Ethereum with this setup :P
 
This gives me life https://t.co/X0zOaE7Pik
 
7:52 PM
merhaba all.
 
DON'T DO THAT
you just gave me a reality check
 
@Avery What's happened to your avatar?
 
I broke stackexchange
5
 
8:18 PM
@Avery found the best tld .jetzt lol I guess its a german word but still terrible
 
8:46 PM
So, stability-wise, MacOS 10.13 Beta 3 seems to have smoothed over like 90% of the bugs that people were hitting with Beta 1 and 2 from what I've read, and based on my own testing. It's not flawless, but I'm not hitting any showstoppers :)
Really impressive considering they literally rewrote their graphics stack between Sierra and High Sierra
Biggest changes to MacOS graphics rendering since the introduction of Quartz hardware acceleration way back in I-don't-know, probably a year matching 200[1-9]
 
I'm using 10.12
how can I upgrade to 10.13's beta?
and how likely is it for that to break my VM
 
@Avery There's a public beta, but see if you can get in for free and download it from developer.apple.com -- if you can't find it for free under downloads, you'd have to get it from a $99/yr dev account :(
The public beta appears to be 5 to 7 days lagging behind the developer-only beta (the same code gets promoted to public when it's determined from internal developer-only testing that it isn't total trash, I guess)
So 10.3 Beta 3 is out to devs only right now; it released yesterday to devs
I would not recommend using the current public beta, as it's pretty much trash
@Avery Not at all likely if you use your VM's snapshotting feature to take a snapshot pre-upgrade; if it breaks, just roll back :P But on a serious note, it depends on how much hacking you had to do (or how much hacking your MacOS "distribution" or wrapper/install script did) to make it work in a VM in the first place
if you're running a truly vanilla binary of MacOS in a VM (better yet -- on a Mac!) the likelihood of a problem-free upgrade is excellent
if you have hacked kexts, I'd honestly expect breakage
as in, "system won't boot" or "no GPU acceleration" level breakage - complete and total breakage - with hacked kexts
 
I just had someone send me a random virtualbox drive and I just did the command line things and the floppy and display memory thing and called it a day
so... snapshot it is.
 
Yeah; other than some disk space usage, a snapshot is a guaranteed way to be able to go back if it breaks your system
Irony?: You're doing a VM Hackintosh and your Beta update is going to be safer than my physical hardware Beta update on a Macbook Pro, because I don't have the ability to take a full disk snapshot (I would if I had an external drive I could Time Machine onto, but I don't have a reliable enough old drive that I trust to the job, so it isn't worth the time to do it)
I took a risk and it was fine, but I could've seriously bricked or nearly bricked my expensive MBP
 
Speaking of Apple Time Capsules... I actually blew mine up the other day. >.>
 
9:00 PM
@MichaelFrank ???
 
It stopped working a few years ago with power supply issues. I finally dug it outta storage recently because we moved and I was going through boxes looking for something. It turns out it still had charge in some caps and I shorted something out, causing a rather large flash of light accompanied with a rather loud bang... >.>
 
9:17 PM
@MichaelFrank O_____O
 
9:27 PM
was this the weird iMac with that bizarre error?
that's kind of terrifying TBH; I'm rather ... averse to loud noises
 
Ahhh noooo, that was a Macbook Pro. I still have that with it's weird error.
Which reminds me that I should probably look into fixing it now that we've moved house and everything is unpacked.
 
so.... the steamlink doesn't have its own BT adapter
or atleast not one that picks up the steam controller
 
@Burgi you're supposed to pair it with your PC, I think; or otherwise get a full-stack BT adapter that connects to the steamlink (does Steamlink have USB ports?)
 
yeah, i've swapped it out of my PC and plugged it into the link
ooooh it streams the full PC desktop to the TV!
 
@Burgi Did you not read the product description???
 
9:56 PM
i thought it streamed the games only
i could read all the nonsense you lot rabbit on about...
FROM MY SOFA
its pretty good i didn't notice much lag if any
but i am pretty tired
 
so it's basically screen mirroring?
 
yeah
i might test game streaming on the chromecast and report back
meh it was £11
 
yeah fair enuough
just funny
if it's not even doing stuff with teh controller
 
you plug the controller into the steamlink
certainly not worth the standard £40 retail price
maybe if i had my TV in another room it might make a little more sense
 
10:29 PM
@Burgi Impossible. It says "best wages"
 
and you pay your minions monkeys staff in bananas, right?
 
@Burgi Chromecast? Wait, wasn't it the Steam Link?
@Burgi Huh? Where did you buy it for such price? Used? Deal?
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy steam sale
 
@Burgi Wow, 46 BRL? That's... A quarter of what I paid for my Chromecast!
 
@Burgi We are getting free fruits in the office now :D But we also pay actual money ;D
 
10:34 PM
@ThatREDACTEDGuy i got the steam link but i have discovered that it just streams the desktop so i was going to see if the chromecast is any good at streaming games given that its wifi and has a tiny CPU
 
store.steampowered.com/app/353380/Steam_Link/ just gives me a "coming soon" message. Been that way since the release.
 
@OliverSalzburg meh its those funny monopoly like euros
 
@Burgi In my experience the Chromecast introduces a noticeable lag. And that's speaking as someone who plays at < 30 fps
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy you've tried it?
 
@Burgi Yes. But I know how to trick the stores into taking them. You just have to act like it's real money
 
10:37 PM
@OliverSalzburg just stare them down when they try to question it?
 
I've streamed movies from my laptop and mobile games from my smartphone, but not any "proper" games, no.
But there's occasional artifacts on video so I suppose gaming would be even worse.
 
If they ask questions, you'll be all like: Hey, I don't know, it came out the ATM like that
 
lol
@ThatREDACTEDGuy when i cast videos from the PC to the chromecast there isn't any noticable lag or issues with sound
i'll tidy up and do a video or something
my living room is a bit messy and i don't have a wife to keep it clean
 
@Burgi (ಠ_ಠ)
Be a man and contribute to the domestic tasks. Do as I say, not as I (don't) do!
 
@RoomOwners @SUMods Shall we participate in this somehow in RA? fightforthefuture.org/news/…
 
10:55 PM
@allquixotic I support it, but what do you suggest?
 
Awwww 'merica
 
@ThatREDACTEDGuy The topic?
Our gravatars?
ooh, Stack Overflow the company is officially supporting it, nice
that means the SE network sites will run the campaign tomorrow? :D
 
It's kinda sad how backwards america is some times.
other times it's just amusing
exec's with stuff like this in their sig: Test everything. Hold on to that which is good. - 1 Thessalonians 5:21
o_O
 
11:13 PM
I hate Amazon, stupid Amazon Prime Day! Got me another Fire HD 8 Tablet, lol (third fire tablet)
But a 32GB tablet for $79-$50 credit is to good to pass up
 
Bob
morning
 
What do you do with that many tablets
I don't even know what to do with one tablet
2
 
Bob
@ToxicFrog stack them in a corner :P
That's what I do anyway
 
it's so painful to perfect a device
and takes me couple weeks to set something up, install everything, login everything, add pgp key, root it etc etc
I got this phone like a month ago and I just added my email address and the pgp key that server automatically encrypts everything with yesterday
and I partially regret going with a yubikey 4 nano rather than a neo, but neo doesn't support 4096bit keys so meh
 
11:30 PM
@Avery And once you're done you notice a weird battery issue and the manufacturer tells you to factory reset
 
oh that happened with my iphone before this
notifications were messed up and apple told me to reset it
I told them to bugger off
 
...
my moto g was setup in about 1 hour
 
> Sometimes the settings on your iPhone can cause issues with software like this. By resetting the settings, we can try and fix it.
 
\o/
 
> By resetting the settings, we can try and fix it.
> reset
> fix
@djsmiley2k my phone gets usable in a couple hours but not complete
 
11:37 PM
image it the oment it's complete
 
I still need to generate ssh keys, add it to ~5 machines and root it.
and guess what: if rooting involves new recovery or stuff, everything is gone
need to reinstall everything
 
so root first?
 
I checked xda
they had first edition of my phone but not second
there seems to be some youtube videos. will check them.
 
what phone is it?
 
@allquixotic ooh. Still waiting for tbolt docks to cross my psychological price barrier.
2-300 SGD is a no brainer. Convinced there's going to be a beast varient for tbolt tho.
 
11:41 PM
@djsmiley2k huawei y6ii (cam-l21)
 
o_O
 
> 1. Unlocking bootloader (this will erase all your data and reset to factory settings)
saaaaad
 
That's pretty much standard, isn't it?
 
back in my day...
I started with android 2
and ios 3
now... android 4 is old.
ios 9 is also considered old news.
 
I'm on android 7 now I think
 
11:48 PM
I'm on Android whatever Samsung decided to stop updating the S5 with...
 
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