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Bob
12:07 AM
@Avery $gapps_login_time + $tib_restore_time :)
@Avery new recovery doesn't erase things usually... but if the phone was initially FDE'd then yea, rooting usually involves reformatting to disable FDE
 
@JourneymanGeek I'm running Android 7.1.2 (LineageOS 14.1) on my phone and tablet.
 
what
I'm confuse
someone halp
so I used to backup data of snapchat before root
with titanium backup.
but titanium backup needs root.
ooooh I got an idea.
re-install bootloader, reset phone in process, install after snapchat that, login, root, titanium backup.
I hate safetynet.
 
@Avery, why did you upload a zero-byte avatar?
 
@bwDraco For fun, probably.
 
I didn't.
it's not zero byte.
^ broken
^ not
that's a bug on stack's end. I will meta it later.
 
12:19 AM
@Avery For some reason, stack.imgur.com is returning a zero-byte file.
 
I am aware
 
Oddly enough, it's not a 404, 403, 500, or some other HTTP error. The Firefox dev tools are saying it returned an HTTP 200 OK with a zero-byte file.
Apparently, the resizing parameter (?s=48) is failing.
 
yup
it's not working for me
 
...sorry.
Bug report time!
 
psh
my phone says "your phone is unlocked and can't be trusted" on every boot
huawei pls
 
12:28 AM
@Avery This is normal.
 
how so
my old phone didn't do that
 
wish me luck
I'm flashing a recovery not intended for my phone
 
@Avery Why? I've never had to do that.
 
apparently 3.0.2 of twrp for that phone works with this one
so I will attempt 3.1.1
seems to boot.
whoo! 3.0.2 works. I think that 3.1.1 will too, just now figured how to boot it though.
 
Bob
12:53 AM
@Avery is that the most recent?
 
dunno.
3.1.1 doesn't like to boot though.
yuup will need to stick with 3.0.2 >_>
dammit I installed supersu before snapchat
abort abort
 
Bob
@Avery Do you need to disable dm-verity?
 
dm-verity?
 
Bob
Think Secure Boot & signed bootloaders, but for Android
Has to be disabled for root from Marshmallow onwards, I think... xda-developers.com/…
chainfire autoroot does it automatically but if you manually flash a supersu via twrp, I think you might need to do it manually? idk
Huawei might be different
 
aaaaaaah google
w h y are yo requiring me to login with my yubikey on my phone it's not even nfc enabled
also psh snapchat, why are you trying this hard to make me not screenshot the not-lewds I get from people
 
1:15 AM
Snapchat is for cat photos?
 
I get more dogs than cats.
I don't like dogs.
 
erf. How does people not like dogs.
Dogs are the best people
 
@Avery because that's how 2factor works...
no point not having it on all ingress.
my god
this job which should of been finished about midnight is still ongloing
 
WAHT
WHAT
NETFLIX DOESN'T RUN ON ROOTED DEVICES?
 
1:23 AM
wanna screenshot on android? nope.
 
cause drm. Forgetting there were cheap chinese devices that would just rip the outgoing stream
 
wanna watch on rooted android? nope.
 
lul
y u no pirate it anyway :P
 
allow recording and everything on PC? Fuck yeah.
 
internet suggests you can sideload the apk
 
1:24 AM
I can, but still annoying, yo.
@djsmiley2k sharing netflix accounts.
free and convenient.
 
pirating,
free, easier
Not endorsing, just saying :D
 
not convenient.
 
depends what you want
it's pretty easy to setup xbmc, or sickbeard, or whatever else you might want
popcorn time,
 
I'm saying it's not convenient
 
lol
 
1:27 AM
and I have over 1tb of up and 1k+ seeded torrent on ipt.
Netflix is just easier
 
hmum de dum
my brain hurts
 
and I can just watch weird but interesting stuff [< suggestive?] without ever downloading it as a file.
 
Oo
@Avery ehhh. Maybe.
 
@Avery but yeah seriously check it out. has interesting stuff.
 
1:37 AM
@djsmiley2k Sonarr, Radarr, PLEX. Done.
 
1:51 AM
Although my PLEX is not working correctly at the moment... I think my ISP is double NATing me :(
 
ewww
i fixed mine some how :D
 
I just use qbitorrent for my linux torrenting needs
(mainly cause of the RSS feed feature. Pity it dosen't expose that to the webui)
 
I just gave up watching crap TV.
 
I get stuff now for my kids.
but that's mainly it
 
1:55 AM
but but, crap TV is the flavoured packing peanuts of entertainment!
 
@JourneymanGeek ew
use deluge
has rss plugins
 
@Avery tried like a dozen clients over time
this works really well other than that
and this basically just means I can't run it purely headless on a Xless box
 
2:25 AM
mining equipment spam o_O
 
like... a shower of rocks?
 
Hello!
 
that's commonish
 
@djsmiley2k Oh, so it turns out my ISP didn't move my static IP when I moved house...
 
@MichaelFrank :(
 
2:37 AM
How that makes sense... I dunnnnno.
 
@MichaelFrank -_-
did you not pack it up with everything else? :D
 
lol, does MR do the same "CGN unless you request" thing where you are?
 
@JourneymanGeek I dunno... if my static IP starts with 101.100... does that help?
 
errr
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS
 
> Damian
Dynamic IPs are routed by CGN, not Static
There's your answer.
 
2:47 AM
yeah, MR does this here too
 
@JourneymanGeek ?
 
its a one off fee for static
 
you can still have NAT with a static IP btw
 
Yup. I think $10 was about what I paid.
 
10
Q: How would I test to see if I'm behind carrier grade or regular NAT?

Journeyman GeekInspired by the comments to this answer and its question. Some of my local ISPs are using carrier grade nat, and as someone who occasionally runs his own servers, remote support, it would be highly useful to be able to work out if I, or someone I am trying to help is behind one of these. How wou...

its 50 here
 
2:48 AM
:/
 
50 what?
 
dollars for a static
 
Yea... but that's not NZ dollars, right?
 
lol
value is NEARLY the same at the moment
 
oof... you're right. They are almost at parity. Ouch at the price of your statics then!
 
2:54 AM
eh its ok, its a one off payment - still cheaper overall than most options
 
every single app you see needs to be logged into (and/or configured).
ugh.
 
You cannot automate somehow or is that just a one-time deal?
 
(you asking me?)
 
one time deal
 
I guess soo
 
3:04 AM
she just rooted her system
(right?)
 
@JourneymanGeek yup
I will take backup from twrp after this so that should be fine
 
I hate SAMBA and RHEL 7.1
.............4th time in a month
 
I spy a Blizzard Authenticator!
 
yup
 
3:05 AM
(Looks around) yep it's just the 12th
thats 33%
 
honestly I wouldn't bother rooting if it wasn't for the preinstalled shovelware
 
@JourneymanGeek Are you still the IT guy at a small school?
 
for all my sins... yes
 
What's a small school considered to be enrollment wise there? Are you High School, University, or what?
 
3:13 AM
@McDonald's yes
 
At the moment...
we run secondary school prep classes for foreign students, some diploma courses , and we recently bought over a vocational baking school...
 
Ah... nice!!
 
So does the It guy get cup cakes and schnauzer treats for fixing the PCs?
Schnauzer treats are awesome
 
Bob
3:38 AM
@JourneymanGeek what happened to that other one? :P
@djsmiley2k that's actually standard for PPPoE IIRC
e.g. at home I actually have a static public IP, but if I run a tracert I get a 10.x.x.x private IP on the DSLAM before it gets translated
 
@Ramhound no.
I just get worked like a dog
 
so
I just sideloaded netflix.
crashes while opening.
that's sad because I love lying down at bed and watching hitler documentaries.
[also netflix needs to stop recommending me them]
ooh wait, reinstalled... works!
 
3:54 AM
@Avery android configures most of mine for me
 
how?
 
@Bob oh right
@Avery sign into google account
click 'yes to reinstall my apps and their settings'
obv. if you sideload stuff, you don't get the awesomes.
i embrace our data slurping overloards.
in embrace herd immunity
#;D
 
using gentoo but allowing google through your everything seems weird
 
Why?
I used gentoo to learn
 
gentoo is usually used by the "fuck tha polic" "rebel" people
 
4:03 AM
My proxy service just protected me from doing an SQL injection Pen Test.
 
hmmmmmm
not the people I know, but ok
 
weird
 
those kind of people are generally idiots
:D
 
It seems to just trigger if SELECT is in the GET.
That's uh, some good security.
 
4:25 AM
there. setup is complete.
and my fave:
 
I wonder if a desktop GTX 580 over Thunderbolt 3 is faster or slower than a laptop form factor GTX 1060 (non-Max-Q)
 
Bob
@allquixotic GTX 580?
RX 580?
 
RX 580, sorry
 
Bob
@allquixotic Probably faster, then.
 
basically my Apple External Graphics Developer Kit vs the GTX 1060 :P
 
Bob
4:35 AM
IIRC the desktop 1060 was around equivalent to the RX 480?
 
the 580 has 2 GB more VRAM and definitely a higher TDP
 
@allquixotic oh of course, it'd be muuch faster.
 
the TDP on the GTX 1060 in this Alienware must be under 100W
 
oh wait
 
the 580 has like 185W TDP? something ridiculous for what it is
 
4:36 AM
gtx. I confused it with rx.
 
me too
RX 580, GTX 1060 :P
 
also whee backing up phone.
 
desktop Radeon vs. laptop GeForce
 
@allquixotic rx580 would be much faster than 1060, with or without thunderbolt3
 
on gaming it appears the GTX 1060 desktop card is significantly faster than the RX 580
but the laptop 1060 is probably 75% of the desktop one
 
4:38 AM
laptop cards are usually even less than 75%, ~60% and goes lower as the computer quickly fills with dust
 
so is the Pascal absence of "M" branding for laptop cards just marketing then?
 
Bob
@allquixotic Surprised me that the 480 scores better in the benchmark videocardbenchmark.net/…
Maybe dodgy benchmarks
 
well, 60% isn't exactly true.
 
Bob
@allquixotic Nah, IIRC M had fewer cores etc
 
it starts up high but goes down very quickly with thermal throttling
 
Bob
4:42 AM
@Avery Depends on the laptop
 
last time I checked they were all huge messes that try to cram a ton in a very small place.
 
Bob
Base clocks are apparently lower on the mobile parts
 
and very small place = less place for dust
 
Bob
@Avery Eh, no. If you're going for the 'gaming' category likely to have anything >1060, it'll likely be a huge noisy beast.
 
less place for dust = faster dust piling up
faster dust piling up = heat going up higher
 
Bob
4:44 AM
Think Clevo
 
heat going up higher = thermal throttling
 
Bob
<=1060 appear more on the lighter/slimmer/cheaper machines.
 
I know. Still, I'm very much against the concept of laptops with beefy GPUs
 
@Bob The 1060 itself is somewhat in a unique category -- way heavier than a system with only an IGP, but way lighter (and smaller) than a system with a 1070
 
Bob
@Avery I've said before that it's not worth the price, but being realistic - we've reached the point where high-end GPUs are efficient enough to work in a laptop form factor.
 
4:45 AM
kind of interesting, IMO, because it needs significant cooling, but not the absolutely ridiculous cooling a 1070 or 1080 needs
 
Bob
@allquixotic benchmarks vs desktop here tomshardware.com/news/…
 
honestly, GPUs on laptops make no sense.
 
Bob
But yea you'd expect a 17" 'laptop' for a 1070
And it'd still cost like 2x more than the equivalent desktop
 
even if it works with a thingy plugged to it, it'll still be heavy, bulky, expensive, comparably slower than desktop versions, will get very hot, loud, will be hard to carry and will have absolutely bullshit battery life.
because battery capacity is capped or else tsa gets mad
so you can't have 50% battery 50% actual stuff computers.
 
@Avery What about slim laptops? Like Gigabyte Aero 14 or whatever it's called now
 
4:49 AM
still, the rest still applies.
 
Bob
@Mendeleev The slim ones have gimped cooling, typically
 
@Avery not very heavy, not very bulky, semi-expensive, I agree with the slower point, reviews show it only gets moderately hot/loud, it's easy to carry, and it has moderate battery life (not terrible)
@Bob ehh kinda
 
honestly, what i want from a laptop is what a mac or chromebook can supply
 
Bob
@Mendeleev also that's only a 1060
we were talking 1070+
 
If I was to get a new laptop, I would get an XPS 15
@Bob I swear I thought it had a 1070
Or at least a version with one
 
4:52 AM
I want to vnc/rdp/ssh into stuff, mess around on internet, have a computer I can carry around and have it have battery life that isn't 15 minutes.
 
Bob
@Mendeleev not according to my quick search, though tbh I didn't look in detail
 
 
Its predecessor P34W v5 had a 970M
 
Bob
those product pages are too flashy to browse at work :P
@Mendeleev so? a 1060 is much, much faster and has a higher tdp already
a 1070 has an even higher tdp than the 1060
 
@Avery Sounds like you want a Chromebook
@Avery Macs are way too overpriced and overspecced for that. The design is good though, and the OS is decent I guess
 
Bob
4:54 AM
@Avery chromebooks are meh. weak hardware for cheap, or powerful hardware for far too much money
macbooks are somewhat decent, though tbh I like having either mouse or touch for browsing these days
touchpad is ... eh.
 
@Bob My dad has an original Chromebook Pixel, Got it as a gift when he worked at Google.
 
as I said, I can move all my IDEs into VMs on a serverfarm
so "weak hardware" shouldn't matter
 
Bob
@Avery it does when it's weak to a point where you can't even browse properly. talking the ~$150-$200 ones...
 
@Bob I used to use the trackpoint equivalent on my laptop, it was decent, but then I switched to the trackpac because I found it a better experience.
This laptop has separate trackpad buttons and it's pretty nice
Although it's getting to be 7 years old so I want a new one, don't need it of course, I could just get a new battery for this one and it would be like new
Most of the things in this one are new
New backlit keyboard, 1440x900 display, 120GB cheapest on Amazon SSD, 1TB HDD, Intel 7260 wifi card, maxed out 8G DDR3 RAM
 
my current laptop is like that
 
4:57 AM
the joys ofa windows 8 tablet with dodgy digitaiser
 
new ssd and keyboard, mostly
 
It's a Dell E6410. It has a first gen i5 560M and a really really weak Nvidia quadro 3100M GPU
 
need to replace ram and get a new battery, also a new wifi card maybe
 
When I got it it had 4G RAM, a single 160G HDD, older wifi card, 1280x800 display
 
I have a dell inspiron 3542. i5-4210U, gt820. meh.
 
4:58 AM
I got it for about $50 though through my local school district's surplus sale
so it's definitely worth it for the price
@Avery better than mine :P
 
True.
 
Bob
I wonder if you two have a physical size preference
standard 15"? more lightweight?
tablet-ish?
I think anything >13" is awkward in a bag
 
I hate tablets.
I can't type on touchscreens
I need to feel it.
And I don't mean nmbp feel.
I mean actually feel it.
 
Bob
@Avery yea, tablet-ish
 
I use 15" atm but 13" is OK too.
 
Bob
5:02 AM
as in, tablet size but with a physical keyboard
typing on a touchscreen sucks
 
5:48 AM
I'm facing terrible problem..a failed windows update has crashed my windows startup and now it longer reaches to home screen
I've OEM recovery but doing it will revert back windows10 to 2015 so I'm not doing that..Windows 10 didn't create any automatic restore point so I can't do this either...the only option I'm left with reset this PC but keeping personal files
I've personal files in my documents, downloads, videos, music in C drive..will they be safe after reset?
I don't have much time to take backup of my personal files
 
@defalt Uh, do this:
- Live boot Ubuntu
- Copy all files to another drive
- Reset
0
A: When a student submits a work that is a copy from a colleague, should you also punish the student that made the work?

Rahul2001Note: This answer specifically applies to programming-based assignments. I'm a student, and I'd just like to add my opinion here. We're taught programming in school using Turbo C++. Yeah. That ancient old steaming pile of crap which hasn't been updated in decades. Needless to say, when we searc...

Your opinions?
 
6:10 AM
Right, back to my main account
Apparently I can get around school's Stackexchange block by directly visiting the HTTPS site
 
@rahuldottech It's admirable, and luckily you're only at high school (equivalent?), so the impact on 'copying' is not so great. When it comes to higher learning at University and such, it does get a bit greyer. My brother and sister are doing the same exact course, both studying to become teachers. Since they also live together at home, they often work together on assignments and such.
Last year they both produced work that was a bit too similar and ended up with a failing grade because of it. Although they didn't copy each others work, because of the close relationship they have, it showed in their work and was a detriment to them.
 
@MichaelFrank hm
 
6:24 AM
@rahuldottech I'm for taking the time to ask questions about the code.
 
@satibel Yeah, but if everyone is asking me, what do I do?
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 Tell them they need to do their own work.
Or if you really want to help then give vague answers pointing them in the right direction.
If they won't put in the effort to learn and understand, it's not your job to write the nswers for them.
 
@Bob I'm not writing anything for them, just letting them peek at my work...
Tough to ask your friends to basically get lost if they ask for help
@Avery Please change your gravatar :/
The double "Avery" hurts my eyes
 
Bob
6:41 AM
@Rahul2001 That's possibly even worse.
Some people will happily copy off you without caring.
 
@Bob I know that.
> Sure, there are a few kids who just straight up copy it, but I feel that the number of students benefiting learning from it outweighs that.
 
Dammit Namecheap... let me sign in! >:(
 
Hi
Can anybody help me?
 
@Luke We... can try :)
What do you need help with?
 
It's an odd problem. I have a set of DLLs which can be loaded from within the containing folder, but not from without. If I try and load them from elsewhere I get an error Invalid access to memory location
 
6:51 AM
@Rahul2001 Tell 'em to see figure1
 
@Luke huh, this is not really my thing... Ask on SO perhaps?
 
I created a question for it. superuser.com/questions/1228769/…
Yeah maybe
 
@satibel lmao
@satibel Check hackchal.cf
Do you think level 4 is solvable?
 
7:14 AM
Is this Fast Charge mode bad for lithium ion battery?
I am using Samsung's proprietary smartphone charger.
I could buy gray import smartphone but it would come with compatible charger.
 
@Bob I like 15" laptops. Sweet spot for me is 14" 8:5 display (what I have) or 15" 16:9 display. I like the XPS 15 if that tells you anything, small shelled laptops are nice.
 
@JourneymanGeek I finally finished season one of The Expanse.
I did not expect sudden blue goo...
 
lol
YOU DID NOT READ THE BOOKS ;p
good
 
Bob
@Mendeleev Ah. I'm currently happy with 12" for a portable machine. Contrast the 2x 27" 4k desktop monitors :P
 
you an get suprised
12 inch 1440p is my current happy place for portables
 
7:20 AM
@Bob 12" would be bad. I like 32" 1440p displays :P
 
Yea, I didn't read them at all.
 
They're basically TVs at that point :P
I just got a steam link and an echo dot
 
Bob
@Luke regsvr32 is for COM only. You're going to have to be more explicit about what you're trying to do; at the moment this reads like an XY question.
Registering a COM DLL can run arbitrary code btw, so it could just be that these are reading some path from a config somewhere.
But these are blind guesses unless you actually name the libraries involved.
 
7:47 AM
morning
 
Bob
'lo
 
@Boris_yo not that bad as long as the phone doesn't burn. (i.e. gets too hot.)
 
@Bob
@Bob Sorry, I am not familiar with COM, but I believe these are COM DLLs. I have responded to you on my question
 
ffs
fracking googlebot is still hammering our map tool
basically the site is shit and no-one (even google) can find the information it needs
@Mendeleev i hope you get the steamlink very cheap
10 hours ago, by Burgi
certainly not worth the standard £40 retail price
 

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