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7:00 PM
@Downgoat You're allowed to drink way before you're allowed to drive.
 
What is the driving age in Germany?
 
18
Used to be, anyway. I think it's 17 with supervision in some parts now.
 
I find it incredibly stupid that the age of adulthood and the drinking age are different in the US
 
Agreed. If you can trust someone with a gun, you can trust them with a beer.
 
Yup. Especially since tobacco is legal at 18, but then alcohol and marijuana aren't.
 
7:03 PM
Though the more liberal states are the one with more gun legislation and higher drinking ages
 
^^ Ninja'd I was just typing that out
 
@DJMcMayhem O_o wait wat
 
(not that I would smoke if I could, I just don't understand the discrepancy)
 
16 yo can smoke in Germany as well.
 
@Downgoat Yes, I am legally allowed to give myself lung cancer, but I can't have a beer.
 
7:05 PM
you're also allowed to enlist in the military and go to war
but not have a beer
 
I'm giving myself lung cancer right now.
 
Cigarettes? Cigars?
 
@DJMcMayhem Where I live I'm pretty sure its 21
 
@Dennis technically
 
I think smoking age might be a state thing.
 
7:06 PM
Cigarettes. My stomach doesn't tolerate cigars.
 
@WheatWizard Oh, I guess I forgot it's a state thing
 
Here the ages for both are 19
 
Yeah, in Colorado, it's tobacco at 18 and alcohol/pot at 21
 
@DJMcMayhem Actually its 18 in my state but 21 in my county.
looked it up
 
Marijuana is not (yet) legal here (technically)
 
7:07 PM
New york, right?
 
@DJMcMayhem *facepalm*
 
@DJMcMayhem Yes
 
@DJMcMayhem there is like 0 regard for minimum pot age in California though :P
 
why should you even prevent somebody who has the right to do much worse things from just drinking? I just don't get it...
 
But I have no desire to smoke pot ever. The smell is nasty
 
7:08 PM
@DJMcMayhem oh, in that case don't come to SF :P
 
what does sf have to do with pot???
 
Oh don't worry, I get plenty of opportunities to smell it here
Mile high city, remember? ;)
 
:||||||||||
> The ministry of silly walks
google maps is not pointing me to denver
 
7:36 PM
@Riker did you go through with this and I missed it or what happen
@Mendeleev ^ that is what a real Down Wat is
Question: is it better idea to use React or Pug server side
 
That is horrifying
 
@Downgoat Wut
 
what in the world...
 
You see, npm debug freezes when I step over a certain require in your lib/cli/vsl.js
But when I use the step function to go all the way to the bottom, it continues as usual
 
also i did a golf and xnor was liek "oh yeah?" and did an out-golf >_>
 
7:50 PM
So that's over 300 memorized keystrokes I need to input before debugging the actual program
(600 including the return key)
But yeah, for some reason, it just doesn't like me next'ing over node_modules/core-js/library/modules/_iter-detect.js
 
@Downgoat it was for a brief time
 
@LegionMammal978 actaully wat :P
@LegionMammal978 wait you should use debugger; statement
 
@Downgoat Will it start the debugger just running that statement?
Also, my sequence of keystrokes (repeated manually, separated by newlines, hundreds of times):
nsnsn1sn8snsn5snsn2sn10sn13snsn1sn8snsn5snsn2sn10sn1snsn1sn8snsn5snsn2sn10sn1sns
n1sn8snsn5snsn2sn10s1nsn1sn8snsn5snsn2sn10snsnsn1sn8snsn5snsn2sn10sn1snsn1sn8sns
n5snsn2sn10sn174
 
It's showing up as the name of the Phison controller inside it
Size 20MB
 
@Mendeleev RIP @Mendeleev's SSD, 20xx-2017
 
8:01 PM
Everything I can find on the internet says that this was a failed firmware flash, but I've never updated the firmware on this
Basically what I think happened was that the power cable vibrated out of the socket while in use, triggering some mode
 
@LegionMammal978 it sets a breakpoint
 
Then some normal writes started rewriting the firmware
 
so you cna just use c
 
Now it's ded
 
and it'll stop there
 
8:02 PM
@LegionMammal978 2013
 
1 message moved to Trash
 
:(
RIP my desktop computer and RIP my files :(
 
@Downgoat Is it possible to run the tests on the debugger?
 
@Mendeleev what is size of SSD physically?
 
Good thing I had my home directory on a HDD
 
Jim
8:03 PM
@Mendeleev Was it 120~128GB?
 
@Downgoat 120GB
@Jim Yep
 
@Mendeleev like in inches
 
2.5
 
@LegionMammal978 no but i do have a debugger friendly test hook
 
Jim
@Mendeleev I bought mine the same year, 128GB, still up and running really good
 
8:03 PM
@Downgoat ???
Could we discuss this on Slack?
 
@Jim Mine was one of the cheapest, it's "Patriot Blaze"
Very slow
Still better than an HDD though
 
Jim
@Mendeleev At that time SSD were still more than a euro per GB ^^
 
Might be 2014 then
I know I was in 6th grade...
 
Jim
@Mendeleev Mine is a Samsung, pretty robust according to the critics
 
@Jim Yeah I wanted a Samsung model but my dad hates Samsung for whatever reason so he refused to buy one
 
Jim
8:06 PM
@Mendeleev Well, sorry for you :/
 
D:
 
@LegionMammal978 on c9 it's test.js
 
@Downgoat Fine, I'll stop the blasphemous sh**p worship, just let me back on the Slack
 
@LegionMammal978 can u give emsil >_< goo.gl/forms/HyfKUOQxZH7KQhzi1
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Jarko DubbeldamFind the maximum number of coprimes in a set Inspired by a recent question on Math.stackexchange.com, which I can't find anymore. The challenge Exactly what it says on the tin. You are given a set of integers and you have to create a program (according to the default definitions on meta) that ...

 
8:12 PM
@Downgoat You should already have it
 
>_< may have lost it
i didnt know deactivsting would remove from group >_____<
 
Apparently you can reactivate it?
If you're a Team Administrator?
 
Huh ok done fixified
 
8:24 PM
@Downgoat You there?
 
8:38 PM
"Reference Error: It Is Not Defined" sounds like a movie title
 
Segmentation Fault: Core Dumped
7
why star tho
stars*
 
@betseg there's a ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) in there somewhere
 
Northern Anatolian Fault: Istanbul Dumped
 
@Downgoat You're a sheep
 
:o
 
8:49 PM
@Mendeleev WAT NO HOW DARE YOU EXCUSE ME 0/10 ofensive
 
Why is @betseg's message still not on the starboard?
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
@LegionMammal978 It totally is
 
we should not allow this form of cursing at other tnb users >:|
 
8:51 PM
 
And my screenshot also isn't there
Wait, just refreshed the page, now it's working
Weird
 
@xnor Isn't A XNOR B just (A AND B) OR (A NAND B)
 
Hi
I want to get SMBF working offline
 
SMBF?
Self Modifying Brainf**k?
 
yes
is 0a
equal to 6
 
9:00 PM
10?
 
is 0a 10?
 
yes
 
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Q: Gif - Jif, Jif - Gif

Neil A.Stolen from @Downgoat with permission The point of this challenge is to (not) settle the debate on the pronunciation of "gif". " The pronunciation of gif is debated and while it's supposed to be (and should be) pronounced jif, it's still commonly disputed. In this challenge you will be giv...

 
???
 
Jim
Does someone know in Pyth how to easily replace only the first occurrence in a string?
 
9:09 PM
@Downgoat Look at the image upside down
 
:O
 
user image
6
 
what
 
what game?
 
9:14 PM
@Downgoat The mocha debugger is doing the same thing the node debugger did, it stops working when I jump over the first package import
 
Wow, the steam link is only 15 bucks
 
If that's TF2 that's probably a bug, TF2 used to cost $19.99
 
Question: is there 2d type intersect algorithm that mutate original items
or do i have to create new array and clear old arrays and push each item
 
 
9:29 PM
Should the alignment for T always be sizeof T?
@Riker :O
Question: do motherboard generally come with the cable to atach the frontpanel ports?
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

BlackCapBeat the turing test king-of-the-hill Both you and your bot have to connect to a speed dating chatroom (details below) where you will either be paired up with another bot, or with another human. You get 30 seconds to converse with your partner before you are disconnected, and are presented with ...

 
Question:: if 8GB ram cost $30 why does 32GB cost $240. $30 * 4 = $120 which is barely the price of 16GB rams
 
magic
 
9:45 PM
DDR?
first one: DDR1 second one: DDR4
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Wheat WizardA dog on a chain I'm looking out of my attic window into my neighbor's yard. They have a dog chained to a post in the center of the yard. The dog runs around the yard but is always on the end of its chain, so it ends up leaving a track in the dirt. Normally this track would be perfectly circul...

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Neil A.Primitive Repetition code-golf primes A repunit in any base B is a number consisting solely of 1s in that base. Your task is to figure out if a repunit consisting of N in base B is a prime number. Rules N >= 2 B >= 1 N and B may be taken in any order and in any reasonable method. Output a co...

 
@betseg I don't think they even sell ddr1 any more
 
ik jk
 
10:11 PM
yeah so I need to make that custom codepage
how do you do that again?
 
@betseg no both are ddr4
 
@Downgoat How the hell are you getting 8GB DDR4 for 30$?
 
@DestructibleLemon read bytes instead of characters, map your Bytes to your custom code page if you want before processing, document your code page
 
@DJMcMayhem idk was first result on google.p
 
@ATaco so if I make a program that reads characters, then converts in place on the document into ` and ~...
that would work?
O i know. I'll make a program that invokes the other program but takes input with ` and ~ as the things
 
10:22 PM
@DestructibleLemon yeah, that would work. Make sure to document your code page, and you might want a "utf8" flag for easier implementation in tio
 
WHy does Retina derive from PCRE if its regexes come from .NET?
 
@Adám I guess because .NET derive from PCRE maybe?
 
@Downgoat Really? .NET seem less powerful than PCRE. At least, so it seems to me.
 
No way, .NET is potentially TC but PCRE can only do CFG
 
10:32 PM
@Downgoat Oh, well I just found:
This is a comparison of regular expression engines. == Libraries == == Languages == == Language features == NOTE: An application using a library for regular expression support does not necessarily offer the full set of features of the library, e.g. GNU grep which uses PCRE does not offer lookahead support, though PCRE does. === Part 1 === === Part 2 === == API features == == See also == Regular expression § Implementations and running times == References == == External links == Regular Expression Flavor Comparison — Detailed comparison of the most popular regular expressio...
Seems that .NET does not have recursion like PCRE, but does have balancing groups and variable length look-behinds, which PCRE doesn't have. (I don't really know what any of those things mean.) I guess both have pros and cons.
Luckily Dyalog APL has both PCRE and .NET regex built in. :-)
 
10:46 PM
:O how
Isn't .NET proprietary
 
@Downgoat Dyalog APL is a .NET language, see the very bottom of this page.
 
@Adám Dyalog also has .NET regex built-in?! wow that is so powerful
 
So as you might have heard, my SSD failed today
Now I'm running Windows 10 off a 80GB hard drive
 
@KritixiLithos Yes, it is basically the union of C# and traditional APL. Really easy to make Windows apps in Dyalog APL.
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

milesAligned Subsequences Given a string s and an integer n, generate all contiguous subsequences of length n from the start and align them. For example, given the string s = "abcdefg" and n = 4, abcd bcde cdef defg Rules Trailing whitespace is allowed. n < len(s) This is code-golf. A re...

 
10:52 PM
@Adám Is APL your favorite programming language?
 
@Mendeleev which brand/model SSD did you have?
 
@Downgoat Patriot Blaze
 
CMC: Cause a segfault
 
@Mendeleev Yes. Favorite and only. (I'll jump through hoops to avoid JavaScript, but occasionally I have to use it.)
 
int f(){printf("%s",0);}
 
10:54 PM
@Phoenix I don't know C well, but is that trying to access the memory at pointer 0 which is the issue?
 
@Downgoat .NET Core is FOSS
@HyperNeutrino The issue is %s tells printf to expect as an arg a string
To print numbers you would use %d
 
@Phoenix Remember the Arc theme?
 
Ye
 
Wait, so that's a segfault? Are there no type errors? (I know a bit about string formatting :P)
 
10:55 PM
Yes, that's exactly what you think it is
 
A screenshot?
 
No
well, yes
 
exactly
 
@HyperNeutrino Well, it tries to cast the int to a character pointer, and then tries to read from address 0
 
so it is trying to access memory at pointer 0
 
10:56 PM
I say "cast", at that level there aren't really such things as types
 
@HyperNeutrino void f(){printf("sheep are not completely horrible creature");} any works on the GoatPropogandaOS all sane operating system
 
pointer == address close enough
 
@HyperNeutrino It would work 99% of the time no matter which number you put in
 
@Downgoat that would cause a compiler error
Ah. Okay. :P
 
@HyperNeutrino fixdeified
 
10:56 PM
still would
 
wait wat why
 
you need a semicolon ya silly goat :P (wait do you?)
 
In C yes
 
idk what you're talking about
 
10:58 PM
How do you strike text through?
 
---hi---
 
@HyperNeutrino ¯\_( ͡ ͡ ͡ ͡ ͡ಠ ͜ʖ ͡ ͡ ͡ ͡ ͡ ͡ಠ)_/¯
oh god what have I done
 
¯\_(ಠ_ಠ)_/¯
4
 
DPRK is spreading pro-goat propoganda, I'm not sure how to feel about this :|
 
11:00 PM
@Mendeleev Is it the same one as softpedia.com/blog/… or is there a new one?
 
@ATaco Does anyone really use the special codepage flags on tio though?
 
gtg now, ಠ/
 
@Phoenix Yeah
 
Ok installing now
 
@DestructibleLemon just say you have a code-page and everyone will believe
 
11:01 PM
if I just added to the repo the thing that does that it should work good enough to count ≤≥ as one byte each
brb making
 
CMC: Given a .NET object, call its ToString method.
 
Does it only work on Windows?
 
ok it was borked
 
"it" being .NET in Dyalog
 
but I realised what the bork was
"something".translate(str.maketrans("something","seomthing"))
hangs
like wtf
 
11:16 PM
@KritixiLithos For now, I think so, but I think we are looking into adding support for .NET Core and/or Mono.
 
wait no, actually print is hanging
wtf
oh wait. nevermind
 
@Downgoat That's not how code pages work.
 
@Dennis can you put sad-flak on tio in a minute when I commit and push most recent changes?
 
@Adám Core > Mono
 
@DestructibleLemon I doubt I'll be able to today (I'm not at home), but if you leave a link in talk, I'll add it asap.
 
11:26 PM
@Adám n=>n.toString()
 
@Dennis I think I pinged you earlier before I realised there was a ton of bugs. also I will need to you to pull turtlèd as I fixed a major bug in it
 
Ugh why is Windows so restrictive
 
@Phoenix OK. Anyway, that is very far from my job in Dyalog. John takes care of things like that. He's made Dyalog APL GUI apps run on his smartwatch and TV.
 
I can't even change the window manager, have to use dwm.exe
 
@Phoenix What language is that?
 
11:28 PM
C#
 
@Dennis opls I never had a code page translate for unicorn for longest time and everyone just went with it :P
 
@Phoenix Makes sense somehow.
 
>_< I shouldn't be saying that
 
@Adám The CMC doesn't make sense in non-.NET langs and in .NET langs it's trivial.
 
@KritixiLithos Can you guess how to call ToString on a .NET object in Dyalog APL?
 
11:29 PM
@DestructibleLemon Yes, you did. I tend to miss or forget about pings in TNB though unless it's something I can attend to immediately. For all things TIO, it' better to ping me in talk.tryitonline.net
 
I suppose n=>n+"" is golfier
 
@Phoenix Ah, see?
 
@Dennis thanx
 
@Downgoat brb nuking all Unicorn answers
 
But it's n+"" in all langs with the .NET addition operator.
 
11:30 PM
is that what you mean by talk? because I was kind of confused by that
whoops wrong room
 
@Phoenix is that op_Addition?
 
Probably
 
I have made my "codepage translator"
 
Testing
 
by codepage translator, I mean it converts `~ to ≤≥ and vice versa
vice versa because you never know when you might need ` and ~
 
11:36 PM
ShareX is awesome
@DestructibleLemon I read that as "covfefe translator" for a moment
 
@Phoenix Just tried it in Dyalog APL, which does have op_Addtion, but it rejects the addition of a string to an object (a DateTime). However, that may be because + is not used for string concatenation in APL.
 
Do the steam summer sale prices usually stay steady? e.g. maybe deals are better at the start/eemd of it?
would @mego know? :)
 
O i just remembered: I have to add the old mit license now
 
Why is CS:GO taking so long to download
It's only 6.6 GB
 
11:44 PM
Should be done in a few minutes
 
now I shall go answer any challenges posted in the time I committed the changes just before
someone make a new challenge!
 
Make it happen sooner by giving Sandbox feedback...
 
"Only 6.6 GB"
 
But with my Internet connection, the download should finish within 5 minutes
I just downloaded all of Wikipedia in about 20 minutes ffs
 
11:52 PM
no you didn't
 
Yeah I did
 
Over Wifi even
 
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Q: Sink that Bismark! (Errr, pig)

juniorRubyistObjective Undo a pig-latin string. Instructions Write a function that takes one argument, a single word in the form of a string. If that word is in pig-latin, the function must output (i.e. return or print it) the pig-latin undone word. If it isn't pig-latin, output the word as-is. Pig-latin ...

 
@Mendeleev *English Wikipedia
 
11:56 PM
koth idea: connect 4 with fog of war
 
Semantics
 
Maybe steam is just slow because of summer sale
 
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Q: Should creating a new lambda class be allowed?

Socratic PhoenixPreface This question is specifically targeting Java answers. I have little to no knowledge of any other program languages, though I expect that the questions I raise below will apply to other statically-typed languages as well. This question was "inspired" by this PPCG answer. Java Lambdas (s...

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Q: Who has the final say on a challenge?

xnorFor the mod election questionnaire, I asked about a hypothetical situation: A new-ish user posts a well-posed challenge that quickly gets many answers. An hour later, they edit in a restriction that invalidates most of the existing answers. An experienced user whose answer was invalidat...

 
@DestructibleLemon how would the fog of war be like?
 
I'm not sure entirely.
 
Anonymous
11:58 PM
@HelkaHomba The deals are the same throughout the entire sale. Sometimes stuff goes on sale partway through, but that's not very common. Flash sales and daily sales aren't a thing anymore because of refund scamming.
 
@Mego I actually think they say asking for a refund because of sales isn't scamming
 
One option would be that you know where your piece lands when you play it, but nothing else. The only way to tell where an opponent has played is to play on top of them, at which point you can determine how many pieces the opponent has played in that column since the last time you played in that column.
 

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