The Nineteenth Byte

Destructible Lemon

12:02 AM

@PhiNotPi yeah but then it is semi easy to get a win by just playing to the side upwards or something

trichoplax

You could start with all spaces fully visible and gradually obscure them over time

Helka Homba

@Mego Thanks

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PhiNotPi

@DestructibleLemon yeah, that's kinda the extreme option

ais523

huh, I just went and outgolfed Dennis in Jelly again

I should keep a tally of this as counterexamples for when people claim it's impossible

ATaco

I'd like to see people outgolfing me in RProgN2.

It's particularly good with quines, for some ungodly reason.

ETHproductions

12:15 AM

"ungodly" is right ;P

ais523

it's because it's concatenative

Underload and 7 are good for the same reason

ETHproductions

Or are you not talking about the 1\n1 answer?

ais523

err, I should say, concatenative and eval operates on strings rather than parse trees

ATaco

I'm not talking about 1\n1, which is now considered invalid.

ETHproductions

Oh good, do we have a new consensus then?

ais523

12:16 AM

actually, GolfScript is also good at quines for the same reason again

Adám

is there such a thing as a regex which will only match itself?

ATaco

RProgN2's quine works almost like golfscripts.

ETHproductions

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A: Regex that only matches itself

PCRE flavor, 261 289 210 184 127 109 71 53 51 44 40 bytes Yes, it is possible! <^<()(?R){2}>\z|\1\Q^<()(?R){2}>\z|\1\Q> Try it here. (But / is shown to be the delimiter on Regex101.) Please refrain from making unnecessary edits (updates) on the Regex101 page. If your edit doesn't actually in...

ATaco

But instead of eval'ing/Calling, it just straight up starts reading the program from just after the function definition.

{`{.}{ is the quine right now.

Which bests Golfscript's {`"_~"}_~ by a few bytes.

ais523

Underload has (aS(:^)S):^, which is the same as GolfScript's if you allow for the fact that GolfScript has implicit output and Underload doesn't

I'm not sure if I've ever written a quine with an explicit :^ equivalent in 7 (because it does it implicitly at the end of the program), I should do that

looks like it's 3713256371325: Try it online!

that's 5 bytes long on disk:

00000000: 7cb5 73e5 ab                             |.s..

there are a ton of different ways to write quines in 7, though, of various levels of cheatiness

ATaco

12:28 AM

7's quines are short, but are a pain to expand.

ais523

e.g. 23723 is two parts which each output each other, 223372233 consists of one part that outputs itself twice and one part that doesn't do anything at all, and 3713256371325 consists of one part that outputs itself and then a copy of the other part that's stored in itself

and no, they're very easy to expand

as long as you know the language

it's hard to write a quine in 7 that isn't payload-capable; even 23723 is

e.g. 22323722323 is a quine that works on the same principle and outputs itself twice (with a 7 in between because that's 7's equivalent of whitespace)

I just added a 223 to each half, "output a copy of the TOS"

Mendeleev

Hey everyone I just saw the question:

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Q: Print the Russian Cyrillic alphabet

Apparently, we really like printing the alphabet in different languages. How about the Russian Cyrillic alphabet? Print/output/return this exact text (trailing whitespace is permitted) АаБбВвГгДдЕеЁёЖжЗзИиЙйКкЛлМмНнОоПпРрСсТтУуФфХхЦцЧчШшЩщЪъЫыЬьЭэЮюЯя This is the Russian Cyrillic alphabet wi...

It's a dupe of this one that I posted:

Zachary T

What language is this?

Mendeleev

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