The Nineteenth Byte

Downgoat

3:00 AM

@ASCII-only halo, can u join vsl slack :3

ATaco

The sarcastic comment was at the sandbox's effectiveness or lack there of.

Phoenix

@ATaco Exactly. It's our fault as a community for letting this be posted as is.

CMC: JSON or XML

json

JSON

3:01 AM

@Mendeleev and whoever else VTC'd: Please retract CVs, it's been fixed.

MD XF

XML is overused and overrated

CSV

@Downgoat XLSX

@Phoenix Done

@Phoenix link?

3:01 AM

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Q: efficient farming

Introduction A farmer needs help calculating the least time it will take him to pick his fruit each day. Challenge This farmer has X orchards. Each orchard has Y fruits in it. If the orchard has no fruits, then it will contain the string "none". The farmer has a list, this list contains the ...

code-golf

totallyhuman

@ATaco >.>

ATaco

I knew that, I totally don't work with Excel for a living... >.<

Downgoat

:| i thought you are eaten for a living

ATaco

No, I'm eaten for a dead.

MD XF

@ATaco you work for Microsoft?

Downgoat

3:02 AM

@MDXF he could be accountant

ATaco

I wish...

Destructible Lemon

I legitimately thought that my koth would get a bunch of upvotes

totallyhuman

s/ead/ying/

MD XF

Oh he said "I totally don't work with". I read for for some reason

Destructible Lemon

but then it was unpopular and it is sad

Phoenix

3:03 AM

@MDXF I have a tshirt that says I completed an internship at MS. I didn't, but I have the tshirt.

totallyhuman

your shirt lies

MD XF

I would like to know who is responsible for Microsoft Notepad. I would like to shake his hand, and give him a couple thousand dollars.

ATaco

I disagree.

\r\n

Downgoat

Poll: Favorite non-command line text editor

Phoenix

@MDXF I mean, MSNotepad isn't a bad piece of software, but it's not exactly brilliant, either.

@ATaco Not notepad's fault

MD XF

3:05 AM

@Phoenix But it's just soooooooooo simple

@ATaco That's called Windows

Phoenix

@Downgoat Visual Studio Code

ATaco

Sublime text does \n, why can't MSNotepad?

Downgoat

@MDXF so is banging rocks together but that doesn't mean that is any good

@Phoenix isn't that IDE

ATaco

It could atleast READ \n

MD XF

I mean, literally. MS Notepad is nothing but a text box with a bunch of options in a tiny toolbar at the top

Phoenix

3:05 AM

@Downgoat Visual Studio is

Visual Studio Code is similar to Atom, but better.

Downgoat

but you also code in Visual Studio wat, microsoft u need to fire your naming department

@Phoenix opls

ASCII-only

@Downgoat can't have exam soon

Downgoat

;_; ono OK

(is midterm or final?)

Phoenix

@Downgoat 10x faster load times

Downgoat

oh tru, atom is slow as sh*ep

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Phoenix

3:06 AM

The 10x isn't even exaggeration.

Destructible Lemon

@Downgoat sheep?

totallyhuman

shh no cursing

ATaco

@Downgoat Needs more RAM.

MD XF

@Downgoat *opens Tor, votes MS Notepad, repeat 10 times* >:D

Phoenix

@Downgoat code.visualstudio.com

Mendeleev

3:07 AM

@Downgoat No, I don't.

Phoenix

Crossplatform

Downgoat

@DestructibleLemon my atom pls no cursing family friendly chat room

@Mendeleev XD

Phoenix

@Mendeleev I do, and downgoat replied to me

Mendeleev

It's a joke

Downgoat

@Phoenix no his old username was wat

Mendeleev

3:08 AM

> you also code in Visual Studio wat

Phoenix

Your joke is bad

oh right

Destructible Lemon

atom is bad

Downgoat

@Phoenix s/r joke//

burn

Destructible Lemon

@Downgoat you is bad

did you just burn yourself?

totallyhuman

no u

Downgoat

3:09 AM

:(

Destructible Lemon

@totallyhuman o dam

Downgoat

@totallyhuman sick burn

Destructible Lemon

2 mins ago, by Downgoat

@DestructibleLemon my atom pls no cursing family friendly chat room

Downgoat

@Downgoat am i drunk why did I type "my atom" :|

:| atom takes 1.7 second to load

Phoenix

Do you have 0 plugins

totallyhuman

3:12 AM

hehe

Phoenix

My atom took a good 20 seconds to load before I switched to VSCode

I just never closed it

Downgoat

@Phoenix no I have 17

totallyhuman

> My atom

Downgoat

@Phoenix :( but no VS code for mac or linux

Phoenix

@Downgoat Yes there is

totallyhuman

3:13 AM

your atom will make a fine addition to my collection

Phoenix

Did you click on the link I sent you

Downgoat

wait wat (not talking to you mendeleev)

Phoenix

code.visualstudio.com/docs/setup/mac

Downgoat

ono VS code look ugly :(

Phoenix

Themes

Mendeleev

3:14 AM

Atom cant use Terminus font. -1

Downgoat

who need termiasdfah when you have menlo

Mendeleev

menlo is too blurry

Destructible Lemon

@Downgoat o snap

Phoenix

@Downgoat marketplace.visualstudio.com/…

Mendeleev

terminus == nie and drisp

Downgoat

3:15 AM

@Mendeleev wat are u kidding

u must have knock off version of font

Mendeleev

no

you have retina diplay

i dont

Downgoat

did u enable text antialias

disable subpixel rendering

Phoenix

@Downgoat marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=Kasik96.swift

Mendeleev

I have subpixel set to greyscale only

Phoenix

30,000 installs, 3 ratings. Seems legit

Conor O'Brien

3:17 AM

CMC: output World! without using W, o, r, l, d, or !

Phoenix

@ConorO'Brien Somethingsomething BrainFuck

Mendeleev

@ConorO'Brien Brainfuck, 58 bytes: +[--->++<]>+.-[--->+<]>---.+++.------.--------.-[--->+<]>.

Phoenix

There it is

ATaco

CMC: Obscure quine. popularity-contest

Destructible Lemon

obscure?

Mendeleev

3:19 AM

@ConorO'Brien WSF: hastebin.com/inuledatoy.pas

Leaky Nun

@ConorO'Brien Jelly, 5 bytes: “©Ġ3»

Phoenix

@ConorO'Brien Downvotes CMC

Destructible Lemon

@ATaco does this count?

Conor O'Brien

thanks pheonix -.-

Destructible Lemon

@ConorO'Brien VTC too broad

Phoenix

3:20 AM

@ATaco VTC unclear

Destructible Lemon

^

Conor O'Brien

@DestructibleLemon um, how

Destructible Lemon

thats what we do for do x without y challenges

isn't it?

Phoenix

No, those or allowed

Just disliked

Conor O'Brien

yeah....

Downgoat

3:21 AM

@ConorO'Brien Cheddar: @"[87,111,114,108,100,33]

Conor O'Brien

and it's a cmc... >_<

Phoenix

I'd VTC as dupe but too lazy to find dupe target

Destructible Lemon

@ConorO'Brien <_>

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Q: A083569: Smallest m not occurring earlier such that m+n is prime

Define a 1-indexed sequence as follows: A083569(1) = 1 A083569(n) where n is an integer greater than 1, is the smallest integer m not occurring earlier such that m+n is a prime number. Your task is to take in n and return A083569(n). n A083569(n) 1 1 2 3 3 2 4 7 5 6 6 5 7 4 ...

code-golf sequence primes

ASCII-only

@ConorO'Brien Charcoal, 9 bytes: ”n6＆±χ@H”

totallyhuman

3:25 AM

[print(end=chr(i))for i in[87,111,114,108,100,33]] psst, out-golf this

MD XF

@ConorO'Brien Cubically, 51 bytes: +54R1+0@6+110@6+1-0@6-0@6L1U1L3-0+4L1U3L3-1@6:2+0@6 Try it online!

Phoenix

@totallyhuman I believe "", instead of end= works, but I don't remember.

totallyhuman

that's in python 2

ATaco

RProgN can't use the char value solution. $87$111$114$108$100$33)#or.

It clearly contains or

Phoenix

@totallyhuman Yours contains the letter r which isn't allowed.

totallyhuman

3:27 AM

frick

Destructible Lemon

@totallyhuman -1 contains r still

Phoenix

ಠ_ಠ

Destructible Lemon

@Phoenix success: no r or other restricted characters

ATaco

@DestructibleLemon -1 contains an r.

Destructible Lemon

@ATaco -1 hypocrisy

:38211310 -1 suffers same issues

ATaco

3:29 AM

I'm allowed to be a hypocrite. No-one else is though.

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Leaky Nun

I guess the only challenges without a 52-second submission is... my challenges.

Because obviously I won't answer my own challenges.

ATaco

TacO solution.

totallyhuman

Braingolf: 99*6+.64*+.3+.6-.8-49*3-&@

probably pretty ungolfed

ATaco

I'd try it in Threead, but Threead is actually the worst language to write.

Oh, and it uses o to output, that's probably a good way to stop me writing it.

Leaky Nun

@ConorO'Brien J, 21 bytes: echo u:<:3 u:'Xpsme"'

Destructible Lemon

3:39 AM

CMC: enter this challenge

do it

totallyhuman

@totallyhuman yup: "Vnqkc "{1+}&@

ATaco

@DestructibleLemon VTC Dupe.

Destructible Lemon

@ATaco VTC wai

flags comment

ATaco

It's a dupe of the thing it's asking to challenge.

Destructible Lemon

can you do it anyway?

ATaco

3:42 AM

Not yet, I'm at work.

Destructible Lemon

;_; o

ATaco

> You may not submit in Java

No thank

Destructible Lemon

;_; too many java koths

ATaco

I can speak Java.

totallyhuman

y tho

ATaco

3:45 AM

I can't particularly speak Python.

Phoenix

Java is pretty not bad.

Destructible Lemon

@totallyhuman ?

ATaco

Disregard that I've answered questions (And Koths) in Python.

Destructible Lemon

;_; so meen to me specifically

y tho

ATaco

I'm not very good at Python.

If I wanted to answer such a KOTH, I'd want to answer it right.

Destructible Lemon

3:52 AM

but

what if there was a bounty on the line?

ATaco

Then I probably wouldn't win it

Destructible Lemon

would you do it if noone else was doing it? the bar is set pretty low right now to be entirely honest

ATaco

I don't do a lot of winning on PPCG.

It would seem that even if I win, I don't get awarded the win.

Phoenix

I do like, no winning. I just post challenges.

The reason I have more answers than challenges is entirely from lucky snipes of trivial challenges.

Destructible Lemon

would either of you be interested in trying my challenge for 50 rep bounty?

Conor O'Brien

3:58 AM

@Adnan What would you say inspired your language 05AB1E? I'm working on Helka's idea

Destructible Lemon

also I'm not sure what influenced woefully

Phoenix

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/105663/60042 is my only "good" solution and it wasn't even mostly my own work.

@DestructibleLemon Clearly malbolge

Destructible Lemon

no

stahp

@Phoenix please make good solution to my koth please

please

Conor O'Brien

@HelkaHomba I answered your challenge, partially

Destructible Lemon

@ConorO'Brien 0/10 my languages don't appear

Destructible Lemon

4:24 AM

@MDXF wait a minute how does input work

MD XF

Dammit. It doesn't have it

I'm sooooo close to adding it but I couldn't find all the algorithms

Destructible Lemon

algorithms for input?

MD XF

Yes. It will take input and turn the cube such that :0+125 will yield the ASCII value of of the input

Destructible Lemon

this seems like a bad idea

I mean the cube is used as a memory thing

MD XF

So does Cubically

Destructible Lemon

4:26 AM

and stuff

also do you really need an algorithm?

MD XF

yes?

Destructible Lemon

just make sure the parity is right

and it will work

MD XF

I'm not adding any more memory if that's what you're asking

what do you mean?

Destructible Lemon

I mean there isn't much reason to actually have an algorithm rather than just setting it to a certain value?

MD XF

The maximum value a face can have is 45

Destructible Lemon

4:28 AM

I mean autoset the cube to a certain state

MD XF

When input is received?

Destructible Lemon

yes. but also I am not a huge fan of this input format

ps @MDXF can you do me a favour and answer my koth?

MD XF

Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. It will autoset the cube to a certain state, such that :0+125 (in the code) will yield the ASCII value of the input

@DestructibleLemon which one? and why?

Destructible Lemon

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Q: Dungeon of botdom

– of crisis and martyrdom (that's the subtitle because subtitles are cool) In this king-of-the-hill challenge in python (yup; you need go no farther to know you may not submit in java), you need to create a bot that plays a game very similar to welcome to the dungeon Rules You submit a class,...

king-of-the-hill card-games

@MDXF because barely anyone seems to want to touch it

MD XF

Yes maybe because it's very hard?

Destructible Lemon

4:30 AM

there may or may not be a 50 rep bounty I make in desperation

@MDXF it isn't that hard

MD XF

idek how to do Koth

and I'm going to bed in 20 minutes, after which I will not be on PPCG for two weeks at least

Destructible Lemon

there are maze koths that got enough answers

@MDXF dam

MD XF

Sorry

Destructible Lemon

;_; i cri evritiem

MD XF

That's me when I try to figure out how to handle input in Cubically ಠ_ಠ it is making my brain hurt

I really need to just add an input register but I really don't want to

Destructible Lemon

4:34 AM

;_; noone likes my koth except the guys that made some simple answers

MD XF

I've never done Koth so I doubt I could do better :I

Wheat Wizard

Does haskell have a splat?

Destructible Lemon

;_; this is actually more upsetting than it probably should be

MD XF

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's just PPCG

Destructible Lemon

I put so much effort into this ;_;

MD XF

4:40 AM

I put so much effort into making Cubically take input and I have like eight algos left but I can't find them and no one helps ;_;

Destructible Lemon

@MDXF tbh you dug that hole yourself

MD XF

Heh probably true

Still

Destructible Lemon

I'm gonna start a 100 rep bounty and see what happens

MD XF

I guess I can get a Rubik's cube, tape numbers to it, and have random co-workers mess with it :P that will take at least fifty times as long though

MD XF

4:55 AM

Well, goodbye, everyone! I might talk on TNB but I won't do anything on PPCG for a few months possibly, a week or two at least. Someone else will have to get thousands of rep for C segmentation faults while I'm away; I better have earned the silver code-golf badge before I come back :P

Destructible Lemon

for a second there I thought we were going to have another MD XF is typing incident

MD XF

ಠ_ಠ someone else will have to forget to update their userscript too

Destructible Lemon

also apparently the guy who made the randommandom bot is going to make another bot!

so that is fun

MD XF

cya later o/

Destructible Lemon

\o

ATaco

4:59 AM

ciao

Destructible Lemon

\o = guy waving or someone kicking a ball?

ATaco

Yes.

Phoenix

o/

Idea: Make o/ indicate someone leaving, and \o indicating someone ariving

Destructible Lemon

\o/ = spider on ceiling

also now there is a bounty

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Q: Dungeon of botdom

– of crisis and martyrdom (that's the subtitle because subtitles are cool) In this king-of-the-hill challenge in python (yup; you need go no farther to know you may not submit in java), you need to create a bot that plays a game very similar to welcome to the dungeon Rules You submit a class,...

king-of-the-hill card-games

user165474

@ATaco >.< plz don't be one of those people lol

Destructible Lemon

5:14 AM

@HyperNeutrino no u

@HyperNeutrino >.< plz don't be one of those people who doesn't answer my koths

user165474

@DestructibleLemon isn't that everyone

user165474

omg 263 views in 3 days :o feelsbadman

Destructible Lemon

1 min ago, by Hyper Neutrino

@ATaco >.< plz don't be one of those people lol

@HyperNeutrino what is significant about the view count?

user165474

it seems unnaturally low...idk

Destructible Lemon

I have considered advertising on a subreddit

user165474

5:18 AM

bountying might help like you did

Destructible Lemon

let's see if it works

now we wait

@HyperNeutrino feelworseman that most of those people ignored it

kind of starting to wish I didn't post it...

but what's done is done

classic me from about an hour ago

@myself ("ehhh, tbh I doubt it will be that popular :P") I HATE BEING RIGHT — Destructible Lemon 51 mins ago

ATaco

It's important to note, it's only a small subset of people that like to answer KOTHs, and most of them prefer Java, just let it do what it does.

user165474

I don't understand the entire game very well; I prefer shorter and simpler KOTHs unless it's Java.

Destructible Lemon

;_; but this is mostly simple how to make more simple

;_; I am bad at writing things ;_;

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Q: Tips for Fastest Code challenges

What general tips do you have for how to answer fastest-code challenges? Please post one tip per answer. The objective of these challenges is to make the program that will run in the least amount of wall-clock time given a specific set of computer specifications (based on who will be judging th...

tips fastest-code

user165474

5:32 AM

wow that was fast

user165474

ok time to break my programming language ;_; it's for the greater good but this may mess things up

user165474

(makes sure most recent revision is pushed to git)

Downgoat

@HyperNeutrino quetion: do oyu have am I typing

user165474

@Downgoat yes

Downgoat

:( I don't think working then

user165474

5:36 AM

?

Downgoat

wait can u see me typing?

user165474

yes

Downgoat

:O

user165474

i can see what you're doing...(not creepy)

Downgoat

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

user165474

5:36 AM

@Downgoat quetion: do uyo nkow how to keybaord

Downgoat

no

Destructible Lemon

@Downgoat downgoat no!

ATaco

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) is actually the only chat command.

Destructible Lemon

quetion: is quetion kind of ironic coming from guy who criticises covfefe?

Downgoat

I don't criticise covfefe

(I do criticise the man who made covfefe tho)

Destructible Lemon

5:39 AM

the real comedy is spicy saying it means something

Downgoat

idk what you're talking abot covfefe is the best coffee I have ever had

ais523

can you get the SGITW award on your own challenge? I think this might be a reasonable entry; I worked on a much more ambitious entry than the ones produced while the challenge was active ~5 months ago, and ended up with an entry with a score 3 times as good as the others

incidentally, I originally asked the question because people were talking about the idea of specialized radiation-hardening esolangs; that approach looks potentially good enough to fit into an esolang, if ungolfed and generalized somewhat (although it'd need to use a 7-bit character set if you wanted the result to be readable)

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