The Nineteenth Byte

Challenge You must write a program that takes a positive integer n as input, and outputs the nth Fibonacci number (shortened as Fib# throughout) that contains the nth Fib# as a subtring. For the purposes of this challenge, the Fibonacci sequence begins with a 1. Here are some examples that you ...

Destructible Lemon

@MDXF no

MD XF

1:04 AM

@ASCII-only E is technically a turn IIRC

Destructible Lemon

github.com/Destructible-Watermelon

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino Are Charcoal/Actually valid submissions

Destructible Lemon

the hyphen seemed like a good idea at the time

ASCII-only

@MDXF Oh yeah

Center slice turn right (Equator, turn in D direction apparently)

MD XF

Yes

Destructible Lemon

1:06 AM

is the ' grouped like this (U') or this ('U)?

MD XF

I should probably implement that but I'm so sick and tired of working with the internal cube so just no

ASCII-only

@MDXF And all the lowercase (double slice) and the rest of the center slice turns :P

LegionMammal978

@Downgoat Sorry, a 200ms power outage due to a storm caused my internet to bork for half an hour

MD XF

D:

LegionMammal978

And for some reason I still can't ping 4.4.4.4 or 4.4.8.8

Thomas Ward

1:08 AM

@LegionMammal978 what's 4.4.4.4?

LegionMammal978

@Downgoat Send the Slack invite over privnote.com?

Thomas Ward

@LegionMammal978 you sure you didn't mean 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4?

LegionMammal978

@ThomasWard Google's DNS

Thomas Ward

@LegionMammal978 That's... 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

LegionMammal978

idk I am derp

Thomas Ward

1:09 AM

developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using

Google Public DNS IP addresses
====================

The Google Public DNS IP addresses (IPv4) are as follows:

 - 8.8.8.8
 - 8.8.4.4

LegionMammal978

Notice: Do not listen to anything I claim beyond this notice in any official SE service.

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MD XF

All right, now if anyone writes a quine in Cubically I'll bounty +500

Destructible Lemon

hmm

I need the specs yo

MD XF

Lookit readme

Thomas Ward

@LegionMammal978 WARNING: Potential recursive loop failure - if we do not listen to claims, then this statement itself is in turn not listened to.

Destructible Lemon

1:11 AM

you didn't change the repo name!

MD XF

@DestructibleLemon Yeah it's already been linked in a few places so I don't want to rename it

LegionMammal978

@ThomasWard Patched

Destructible Lemon

@MDXF iirc it still works as a redirect

MD XF

Oh :D

Destructible Lemon

example: github.com/Destructible-Watermelon/confuse

MD XF

1:13 AM

Changed

Destructible Lemon

I think it'll play up if you were to make another repo named rubiks-cube

but even if you did you could just add a note at the top of the readme

MD XF

Yeah I'll avoid that lol

LegionMammal978

@Downgoat Slack or no?

Riker

@MDXF why limit it to be able to passing 0-9 to a command>

Destructible Lemon

because he doesn't like parsing

probably

MD XF

1:13 AM

@Riker because there's never any need to pass more than that

it operates on the face indexes 0-5 and the nonexistent 6th index

so there's no need for larger numbers

@DestructibleLemon Naw the parser is amazing, check out code

Destructible Lemon

o

I don't like parsing

Turtlèd is super slow because of it

MD XF

I originally just had it read two bytes at a time and perform the first command on the second number >.<

Destructible Lemon

maybe I'll make a question to make a faster interpreter

MD XF

What lang is Turtled written in?

LegionMammal978

Turtlèd is written in Turtlèd ofc :p

Destructible Lemon

1:15 AM

@MDXF python

MD XF

orly? bootstrapping nice

Destructible Lemon

nope he lied

MD XF

@DestructibleLemon Ack I prefer not-Python for interpreters

Destructible Lemon

@MDXF how daer you

Riker

@MDXF why not?

it's just as useable as C

MD XF

1:16 AM

'cause it's got weird file I/O

not really

^

Sorry, re-worded

open('file').read() works for more stuff

Thomas Ward

@DestructibleLemon that's your opinion, not fact.

Destructible Lemon

1:16 AM

i guess if you don't like reading lines you can use readlines

MD XF

@ThomasWard I never said it was...

LegionMammal978

privnote.com/Ptb0kIMu#efWfuPiu5

MD XF

@ThomasWard also opinion lol

Destructible Lemon

@ThomasWard well... so is the file io being weird

this is like the inverse of the entitled to opinion fallacy

MD XF

Haha yeah but whatever

Y'all prefer Python, I'm in love with C

no problems necessary

Destructible Lemon

1:17 AM

@LegionMammal978 who is supposed to click this

LegionMammal978

@DestructibleLemon idk

MD XF

it's destroyed now D:

Riker

lel

LegionMammal978

I wonder who read it

MD XF

k I gtg for a little bit, y'all should make 1000 PR's while I'm away

@LegionMammal978 ....me lol

Destructible Lemon

1:18 AM

also why does R need a face to operate on? I'm confused

Downgoat

@LegionMammal978 oh shit sorry had to leave for a sec

LegionMammal978

@Downgoat Nah, that particular link was just (lambda x:chr(ord(x[~-32>>(32+32)//32])-32)*32)('LegionMammal978')

Destructible Lemon

also the brackets work weirdly do they work matchingly or just to the last open bracket

? unconditionally jump to the most recently accumulated (

@MDXF

Downgoat

@LegionMammal978 I don't want to use privnote thing because a link invite is avialable to everyone, can we use GPG or AES?

LegionMammal978

@Downgoat idk how either of those work

Downgoat

1:23 AM

we can use this: sela.io/pgp

@LegionMammal978 u said u don't have key so you can send me message with email and i'll email you with invite

slack invite is by email

@LegionMammal978 ok sent invite

Thomas Ward

grabs the roomba

@Riker assuming you don't mind?

Riker

not at all

inb4 complaints about trash invites

Thomas Ward

puts the roomba back in its box

Destructible Lemon

also @mdxf how do you cubically is TC?

Anonymous

@Riker Correct. Anything that isn't part of CP437 is simply ignored (unless embedded in a string literal).

Riker

1:31 AM

so 90% of unicode chars are no-ops

lol

ASCII-only

@Riker Not actually, they are actually supposed to be multiple CP437 commands

Riker

?

ASCII-only

@Riker CP437 is a SBCS

Meaning all sequences of bytes are valid

Riker

ah

@ASCII-only so every cp437 char is a no-op, ok

ASCII-only

@Riker :| what

Riker

1:33 AM

*not every but most non-commands

and by no-op I mean no-op or error thats suppressed

apologies if I don't make sense I'm tired

MD XF

@DestructibleLemon it's not

Destructible Lemon

ok then. also again what is up with brackets

MD XF

@DestructibleLemon It doesn't need a face to operate on ... oh. messed up README, again. brb

user165474

@WheatWizard vvv

user165474

24 mins ago, by MD XF

All right, now if anyone writes a quine in Cubically I'll bounty +500

Destructible Lemon

1:35 AM

so, did you offer 500 because you know it's impossible?

MD XF

No, because it's bound to be nearly impossible

user165474

would people recommend high school grade 11 CS

Wheat Wizard

@MDXF Rip your rep

I have tomorrow off

user165474

I have summoned the Quine Master :D

MD XF

Yep but seeing as how I will be inactive for like three months starting Monday I don't really care lol

user165474

1:36 AM

@WheatWizard To be fair he got a large portion of it from throwing segfaults so he has no reason to be very sad lol

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino 0/10 would not recommend

nowhere near advanced enough

user165474

(definitely...not...salty...)

MD XF

Ay it was less than a third of my rep

Destructible Lemon

@WheatWizard well... I don't do work! let the battle begin. nah jk this is impossible and I don't think I can even if it were possible probably

MD XF

@DestructibleLemon Why is it impossible?

Destructible Lemon

1:37 AM

because it is

MD XF

there are conditionals and loops

user165474

@MDXF and less than 0.1% of the work required for my carbon chain naming program with over 1800% of votes

Destructible Lemon

@MDXF also wtf is with brackets mate

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino mm... pls link

Destructible Lemon

@MDXF ...

must resist

MD XF

1:37 AM

@DestructibleLemon I don't know what's hard 'bout them

exactly like in triangular

and Surface

user165474

@ASCII-only You mean submitting those as your language?

MD XF

because Triangular stole it from Surface

user165474

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A: Naming non-cyclic carbon chains

Python, 1876 1871 1870 1859 1846 1830 1826 1900 1932 bytes sigh the bytecount keeps going up TIO from itertools import* s=input() l=~(~s.find('\n')or~len(s)) s=s.replace('\n','') f=lambda k:[(x/l,x%l)for x in range(len(s))if s[x]==k] h=lambda x,i,j:x[:i]+(x[i]+j,)+x[i+1:] g=lambda x,i:[(h(q,i,...

Destructible Lemon

weird... so this makes me doubt it is possible again because nested loops don't exist much

except for when the loops are at the start

MD XF

@DestructibleLemon yeah they do

ASCII-only

1:39 AM

@HyperNeutrino yeah (Well I can try submitting Charcoal's eval too :P)

Destructible Lemon

@MDXF not very much

MD XF

] and ) jump back to the most recently accumulated (

user165474

Hm. Is it possible to cause errors with them given ASCII input and ASCII program?

MD XF

therefore, nesting is absolutely possible

user165474

So ] and ) "de-accumulate" a (?

ASCII-only

1:39 AM

@HyperNeutrino Actually has no errors, in Charcoal all printable ASCII is part of a string

Destructible Lemon

( ( ) ) makes a nested loop but a really weird one

Wheat Wizard

Why have ) anyway?

Destructible Lemon

also why do you need an unconditional loop thing

ninja'd argh

:38124408 ninja'd!

oh you deleted it

MD XF

idk I'm not doing anything else with ) so why not

could be useful

user165474

@ASCII-only I mean it has to work properly; even if it has no error messages it has to internally work still

Destructible Lemon

1:40 AM

you could have used it for the ]

user165474

And I suppose it'd be valid

user165474

but quite boring

Destructible Lemon

you could have used it for the inverse of ]

MD XF

nah because ( is unconditional so why should ) be

inverse of ) ?

user165474

you mean why should ) not be

Destructible Lemon

1:41 AM

@MDXF ] does it when not 0, ) does it when 0

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino So basically no no-ops

user165474

You also have }

MD XF

@DestructibleLemon Ohh good idea brb

user165474

@ASCII-only Yes. All characters have to do something.

MD XF

Actually wait no good idea @Hyper imma use that

Destructible Lemon

1:42 AM

it makes programming Turtlèd a lot easier

user165474

(all characters in the program)

user165474

@MDXF You can do both

MD XF

No I mean I'll use Destructible's suggestion but your character

makes more sense, then an unconditional jump can still be a thing

user165474

Ok

Destructible Lemon

so anyway you have only very specific nested loops

MD XF

1:43 AM

The thing I hate but am not going to change is that ()}] only work with a digit after them :(

Destructible Lemon

wowee

user165474

Why?????

Riker

I have found rare footage of @ThomasWard in action: i.imgur.com/VOvUAow.mp4

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Destructible Lemon

@HyperNeutrino considered as commands

user165474

@DestructibleLemon hm

Destructible Lemon

1:44 AM

@MDXF do... do you actually parse them into loops or just do what I did and make it look through the source at run time

a nested loop cannot have more than one loop (possibly itself containing loops) and it can only have that at the start of the loop

user165474

@Riker Did you pin that or something?

Riker

not me

user165474

ok just wondering

Thomas Ward

i accidentally clicked pin - stupid mouse is too darned sensitive.

my bad

Riker

:p

user165474

1:46 AM

oh ok lol

Riker

@ThomasWard ikr I've had that happen so much

user165474

I was just about to say 0/10 do not recommend :P

Destructible Lemon

Do you know what I don't like about sensitivity controls in games?

on console, it doesn't actually make it any more sensitive, so if you want to just move the view a little, its impossible because it isn't sensitive enough

so its simultaneously too sensitive and not sensitive enough

it is infuriating

user165474

lol true

Destructible Lemon

misleading names

its like saying a gun has a sensitive trigger but actually its stiff and you have to pull on the trigger all the way but it shoots really fast

(I don't actually use guns but whatever its an analogy)

user165474

1:52 AM

Interesting analogy.

Destructible Lemon

don't judge my brain's train of thought

user165474

how to base conversion str->int with different base in python for floats

Destructible Lemon

um

well, you're gonna want a regex

actually just int(number.split(".")[0])

unless you wanted str-> float

and then you can use the base thing

int(str, base) I think

user165474

@DestructibleLemon that only works for int...

Destructible Lemon

take the other thing I wrote and combine them

did you want str-> float not int?

user165474

1:58 AM

yes

Destructible Lemon

nope it turns out float works like that

>>> float("12.4")
12.4

fun times, python

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon ?

Destructible Lemon

oh it doesn't like different based

bad job python

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino You want like binary decimals?

user165474

yes

user165474

1:59 AM

well binary floating-point

user165474

because decimals implies base10 :P

user165474

(actually no ignore me)

ASCII-only

It does (deci = 10)

Destructible Lemon

ok so int works fine but float doesn't like different bases...

I will make a program probably!

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon No need

steal from lcj

Destructible Lemon

2:00 AM

o ok

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon github.com/somebody1234/GCJ/blob/master/lcj.py#L183

Destructible Lemon

duckduckgo.com/Lord_Chief_Justice_of_England_and_Wales

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon >_> ok you can use that too

user165474

made program

user165474

hope works

user165474

2:01 AM

yey works

user165474

:o my first try worked? finally!

user165474

lol just realized that decimals in unary don't work

user165474

what would 11.11 be converted from unary?

Destructible Lemon

yes it is a different kind of base

it is the old bijective

ASCII-only

Or steal from Charcoal

@HyperNeutrino Nothing, unary doesn't have decimals

user165474

2:04 AM

I'm getting 4

user165474

@ASCII-only or that

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino :|

Destructible Lemon

I got excited when I saw my rep in chat and then was disappointed again

Poke

Well this happened...

MD XF

@Poke Oh my

Poke

2:10 AM

i still need a description

and for it to work regardless of how many times the function is called

but that's a good start

user165474

ummmmm

ASCII-only

@Downgoat ping

New Sandboxed Posts

2:27 AM

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

I Got All Night Meta Is this interesting? Has this already been submitted? Issues/loopholes in the rules? Suitable tags? The goal Make a program that takes as much time as possible to complete. That's it. Rules It must not be infinite. while(1){} will not be accepted. You must be able ...

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino fixed README, also made it even harder to code in >:D

Destructible Lemon

md xf ask dennis to put it on tio?

MD XF

Not yet

I've asked Dennis to put ~8 langs on Tio and one was earlier today, imma hold off until tomorrow

user165474

@MDXF why would you do that D:

MD XF

Judging by the fact that it's designed to be a particularly nasty language I think it was for the best :P

user165474

2:37 AM

Oh :P

MD XF

@DestructibleLemon if you wanna ask him that's cool, be sure to link to Hello World

I think I write too many languages :P

user165474

Yay my tokenizer can successfully tokenize lists, first try! wow!

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino pls link

Destructible Lemon

@MDXF impossible

user165474

Not on GH yet, will upload

MD XF

2:38 AM

k cool

@DestructibleLemon 3 in a week

user165474

It even works on weird things like [1[2[3]4]5]

MD XF

Woo (•◡•)/

Destructible Lemon

good job I guess!

do you think people would use my language if I made a better interpreter?

MD XF

@DestructibleLemon which one?

Destructible Lemon

turtlèd

MD XF

2:42 AM

oh I've seen that used

Destructible Lemon

by me

and for a couple of trivial answers

user165474

@MDXF github.com/alexander-liao/programming-language

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino you called your language "programming language" ಠ_ಠ

user165474

What other token types do I need? I have STRING, NUMBER, and LIST, and practically IDENT

user165474

@MDXF yes

MD XF

2:45 AM

@HyperNeutrino +1 stringly typed

user165474

ಠ_ಠ

user165474

but what other tokentypes do I need

MD XF

You need a better name before you do anything else ಠ_ಠ

Also...

user165474

@MDXF what do you suggest? main purpose is just general golfing lang

user165474

I also have EOFToken for when something leads the tokenizer off the end of the string because the programmer was being dumb, but that should become unused in the future

user165474

2:47 AM

sure

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino Idk I'd need to know more about it first

user165474

Alright. Well then I can't get a better name yet ಠ_ಠ

Destructible Lemon

call it better name

user165474

@DestructibleLemon 0/10 just no

Destructible Lemon

0/10 better than programming language

user165474

2:49 AM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'll change it eventually

MD XF

3:27 AM

Anyone have any suggestions for challenges to solve in Cubically?

Destructible Lemon

primes!

muhahahah

good luck

MD XF

No input

Destructible Lemon

o

you should make input

MD XF

Also, any suggestions for input? :P

(another reason I don't want it on Tio yet)

Helka Homba

@MDXF Cubically?

MD XF

3:31 AM

@HelkaHomba A new purposefully difficult language in which the only memory model is a Rubik's Cube

Heavily wip

Poke

well i made it so you can call it multiple times

documentation on how it works can wait until tomorrow i guess

MD XF

@Poke What are you referring to?

Poke

my answer i linked earlier

sorry

MD XF

Oh cool

Poke

didn't realize that was like 20 minutes ago

haha

bleh that code is a mess

MD XF

3:37 AM

Huh, sounds like my life

Poke

might be fun to show to my manager tomorrow

MD XF

I love showing people cubically and watching their minds implode

Wheat Wizard

I just got this error from the ghc:

    • Couldn't match expected type ‘([Bool], [Bool], [Bool])’
                  with actual type ‘([Bool], [Bool], [Bool])'

user165474

Sleep is overrated lol

MD XF

3:53 AM

I only sleep when I don't have an esolang to write in the morning because it's always fun to see how freaking awful it turns out when I'm thinking properly again

user165474

lol I'd do the same if i ever did think properly

MD XF

hahaha

forgot that rule - TNB isn't a dumping ground for thoughts

user165474

Ah. Wait I never knew that was a strictly defined rule. maybe time to read the chattiquette for the 5th time?

MD XF

Probably

'Don't use The Nineteenth Byte as a dumping ground for your thoughts or actions. Consider whether a topic would be relevant to others before talking about it. We're here to have discussions, not to listen to someone's stream of consciousness.' (emphasis mine)

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