The Nineteenth Byte

MD XF

10:00 PM

@trichoplax Not my work btw

user165474

^^^ agreed wait can I make a CSS thing always apply to every site (or specific sites)?

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino You can make it apply to specific sites, see your styler help page for details

trichoplax

@MDXF Thank you still, for making me aware

MD XF

np

ATaco

Can't do either of those things, im on a train

MD XF

10:01 PM

...yet you're talking on chat SE

user165474

@MDXF Mobile Chat SE exists but mobile GH is very hard to use

user165474

(assuming taco is on mobile)

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino There's mobile chat se?!?

user165474

@MDXF How?

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino Do you have a styler extension installed?

user165474

10:02 PM

@MDXF I was using it a few days ago and I'm pretty sure you were there when I was complaining about it...

user165474

@MDXF no

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino Is it an app or just a mobilized version of the website? I thought you meant there was an app

user165474

@MDXF Oh no there's no app. It's just mobile site

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino what browser you on?

user165474

@MDXF Chrome

MD XF

10:03 PM

@HyperNeutrino Oh ok

@HyperNeutrino good

user165474

ooo

user165474

Also ListToken@[content] is meant to be a list but it contains tokens not values ;_;

MD XF

> ListToken ... contains tokens ;_;

user165474

Well I mean now I have to make something that will evaluate out those things... Wait that could potentially give it some extra functionality, especially if not all of those tokens are LiteralTokens

MD XF

holy wow, last message 1009 days ago :o

Mendeleev

10:06 PM

My internship is over O_o

MD XF

@Mendeleev sorry to hear that, where were you intern-ing?

Mendeleev

It's not a bad thing, it's just that it only takes place during the school year, and that ends on 6/20.

MD XF

True

Mendeleev

@MDXF My school district

Writing some software

MD XF

I mean what company was your internship at

Oh

user165474

10:07 PM

I tried doing the style thing but it says it's too global >.<

MD XF

:I works for me..

did you set the site to *.stackexchange.com?

user165474

Oh

user165474

Wait where?

MD XF

one sec

user165474

@-moz-document?

trichoplax

10:09 PM

chat.stackoverflow.com - "Welcome to Stack Exchange chat"

MD XF

Huh having it global works for me...

what version of Chrome are you using

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino Stylish

user165474

@MDXF Version 58.0.3029.110 (64-bit)

MD XF

@ASCII-only I linked him like ten messages ago lol

@HyperNeutrino Huh that's mine...

confused

user165474

@ASCII-only Ninja'd by quite a bit lol

MD XF

10:11 PM

:38145607 ... to NeutrinoHub :D

user165474

@MDXF no-idea-what-to-do-now

user165474

@MDXF lol

ASCII-only

@MDXF ... This is why you're supposed to use descriptive link names

5

MD XF

@ASCII-only ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

totallyhuman

Use fasthub

Awesome mobile GitHub app

@MDXF how are you breaking it? o0

MD XF

10:15 PM

@totallyhuman ?

user165474

@totallyhuman I have a feeling you don't know what NeutrinoHub is...? :P

user165474

ooo free Wolfram|Alpha Pro 1 year starts now :D

MD XF

cool

musicman523

Is there an easy way to search a question for answers in a certain language

user165474

10:31 PM

I think you can just search isquestion:id languagename and it will find it if the body contains the language name, though for things like C this will not work well. I don't think there would be any better way because SE-wide that doesn't have much of a purpose.

Uriel

@HyperNeutrino you can try C, with comma. Though old answers used parenthesis to enclose byte count

Phoenix

5

user165474

@Uriel Idea make userscript that only searches first line or something like that

user165474

... I just signed up for a Mathematica trial because I couldn't find the link given to me for free but I was being dumb and didn't check my email

user165474

um 0/10 takes too long to download... (2 hours later)

Phoenix

10:37 PM

@HyperNeutrino The search term is "Wolfram User Portal". No, you won't find it by going to the wolfram website.

It's silly

user165474

Hm. Weird.

Phoenix

@HyperNeutrino Mate builtins for goat recognition take up a lot of space

The full uncompressed size is like 15gb

user165474

Oh wow

user165474

(checking to make sure I have more than that right now)

user165474

... I only have like 21 GB left D:

Uriel

10:38 PM

@HyperNeutrino this could make a nice challenge - list all of the languages I've used, and how many times

user165474

@Uriel That would be an interesting challenge. Seems a bit unclear though; also, polyglots... :P

user165474

Wait polyglots don't break anything

user165474

just that sum(output) != my_answers.length

Uriel

@HyperNeutrino yeah, you'd have to consider only organized users...

user165474

:P Yes

Phoenix

10:40 PM

@HyperNeutrino I once cleared 10 gb with sudo apt autoremove, try that.

user165474

Er nothing changed rip

Phoenix

IDK ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

rm -rf ~/Downloads ; mkdir Downloads is another one of my favorites

user165474

crap almost did that then realized I have an ongoing download right now :P

user165474

but 0/10 removing everything else does nothing :(

Uriel

@Phoenix I've heard dissolving your hard drive in acid removes all of the junk files DO NOT TRY THIS

Phoenix

10:47 PM

@HyperNeutrino How tiny is your hard drive to have no space while simultaneously also being apparantly clear of garbage?

ToxicFrog

@HyperNeutrino fire up ncdu/baobab/kdirstat and see where all the space is going?

TuxCopter

ASCII-only

@TuxCopter What's fourth place

Phoenix

@TuxCopter I've never lost a ), tbh.

I have lost \ many, many times and failed to escape a quote in a string.

mınxomaτ

A reminder to sell off bitcoin before 2017/8/1, which is BTC doomsday (Bitmain / New York Group's UAHF vs. Bitcoin Core's UASF/BIP148). Exchanges and transactions will be in limbo for at least 4 days.

Phoenix

11:00 PM

I've been considering getting into this whole 'Bitcoin' thing, I guess I should hold off on that, then.

mınxomaτ

I mean, UAHF's goals make sense, but Bitmain (14% of mining power) will have exclusive mining rights for that fork for three days, which is insane.

Poke

@ASCII-only an off by one error

Phoenix

@mınxomaτ I have no idea what the sentence means.

I just heard yesterday that apparantly my two RX480s are good for bitcoin mining ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mınxomaτ

The links explain each party's side of this discussion.

Phoenix

Too many confusing words

Downgoat

11:04 PM

:|||| Apparently there is a bug in JS/Babel making my JS solution invalid :(((

Wheat Wizard

@Phoenix I have developed very good brace habits from programming in Brain-Flak. I used to lose them all the time but now I never loose braces.

Phoenix

I lose braces when I make a one sentence if statement without them, realize I need multiple statements there, go back to add braces, and then my IDE kinda gives up and does random magic with braces and indentation.

Avery

yo @betseg hit me up on discord

Downgoat

@Phoenix does your editor not highlight matching braces?

Wheat Wizard

@Phoenix I don't like to use IDEs because they interfere with my braces, as soon as I start programming in an IDE I start losing braces

betseg

11:08 PM

@Avery i did but u no reply ;_;

Phoenix

@Downgoat It does, but not before all the indentation borks.

@WheatWizard I think it's a worthwhile tradeoff for all of their advantages.

Downgoat

^ assuming 'ide' = not vim

Wheat Wizard

Personally its not for me, I learned to write code without an IDE so its how I like things

MD XF

I hate IDEs

it's so easy to just use the command line

Destructible Lemon

yeah nah

Wheat Wizard

11:10 PM

I feel extremely comfortable using (default) Vim and Nano so I just do that

MD XF

Nano is so nice

Downgoat

^^^^^ I will reconsider my stance of IDEs once just one of them supports HiDPI displays

Phoenix

For smaller, one or two file things, a basic text editor is fine.

MD XF

After using ed for two years I started using nano and ahhhh

Destructible Lemon

I mean I find writing a prime program takes a while when using command line

Downgoat

11:11 PM

@MDXF ಠ_ಠ to go to bottom of page in nano you have to click down arrow like 24 times (assuming standard 80x24 terminal)

Phoenix

For larger projects, I need the organization provided by an IDE. Also, autoimports.

Wheat Wizard

@Downgoat ^V

MD XF

@Downgoat <kbd>PageDown</kbd>

intentional non-HTML

Downgoat

oh, and nano don't support going back a word at a time like vim's b

Uriel

IDE != Text Editor

Phoenix

11:12 PM

Yes

Downgoat

and it's really difficult to save in nano compared to vim

Wheat Wizard

@Downgoat Or meta \

MD XF

@Downgoat <Ctrl+O><Enter>

In Vim it's Esc-:wq

that's an extra keypress

Wheat Wizard

:x is shorter

MD XF

oh yeah that too

Downgoat

11:13 PM

^ you can also just use ZZ

Wheat Wizard

You only have to use Esc if your in a mode

MD XF

Editing mode...

ASCII-only

@MDXF *Insert mode

Downgoat

also vim support tabs and multi window and visual modes and cursor

Phoenix

I use IntelliJ with vim keybindings

ASCII-only

11:14 PM

+ you're usually not in insert mode

MD XF

@ASCII-only yes was about to say that

Downgoat

does nano even do syntax highlight

MD XF

@Downgoat yes

Wheat Wizard

@Phoenix I don't get IntelliJ's vim keybindings, they are nothing like Vim IMO

Phoenix

IDK enough Vim to really notice

MD XF

11:14 PM

I honestly wrote Decimal 100% using Windows Notepad

ASCII-only

Including Cloud9

Wheat Wizard

Syntax highlighting is personally my least favorite feature of IDEs

MD XF

@ASCII-only I love cloud9

Phoenix

@WheatWizard wat

Downgoat

opls there is no syntax highlight

Questoin: is auto indent or synatx highlight more important to you

MD XF

11:16 PM

@Downgoat oh yeah, use this

betseg

highlight

Wheat Wizard

Syntax highlighting doesn't really add anything, it just makes my code look like candy colored vomit

(I also don't like autoindent)

betseg

@MDXF lel

Downgoat

> lmgtfy

let me goat that for you

MD XF

@Downgoat yes

Destructible Lemon

11:17 PM

@WheatWizard I sort of agree with this

ASCII-only

@Phoenix Well pretty much every decent IDE has vim bindings

Downgoat

@WheatWizard D: rainbow syntax higlight is best syntax higlight

MD XF

@WheatWizard Accurate. I like it because I can't really distinguish between characters but syntax highlighting helps a bit

Phoenix

@ASCII-only That's not the point

We're not comparing IDEs

Destructible Lemon

I wonder if I would have gotten more votes on my king of the hill if it mentioned goats

ASCII-only

11:18 PM

@Phoenix IK

But it's basically saying you use fancy vim :P

Phoenix

Syntax highlighting is a godsend when you have a large regex.

ASCII-only

@Phoenix No, all you need is your own Martin

Uriel

Most GUI editors syntax highlighting breaks anyway after enough golfing.

Phoenix

@ASCII-only But Martin is usually asleep right about now

@Uriel Really? I've seen SE's highliting break, but never an IDE's

MD XF

@Phoenix where is he located?

Phoenix

11:20 PM

Germany

MD XF

Oh yeah

Downgoat

@Phoenix usually most IDEs give up on syntax highlighting after a certain line lenth

Atom basically gave up on Japt 50% of the way through

Uriel

@Phoenix sublime does sometimes with python unspaced numerals

Phoenix

Atom, Sublime != IDE

mınxomaτ

MD XF

11:21 PM

I wonder if it's possible to make syntax highlighting for esolangs

user165474

@Phoenix I made my Linux partition too small :( I have a 2TB-a bit hard drive

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Wheat Wizard

Someone made one for Brain-Flak

user165474

@MDXF I wonder how practical that would be for half of esolangs

Phoenix

@HyperNeutrino Resize the partition then

user165474

11:22 PM

???

ATaco

What was said to be a 3 hour maintenance has taken 24 hours. I'm a step away from filing a breach of SLA.

mınxomaτ

> a 2TB-a bit

You have what now

Uriel

@Phoenix of course. It's a GUI editor

user165474

@ATaco :o what is sla

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino practical for dyslexia tho lol

Downgoat

11:22 PM

@HyperNeutrino slander liability agreement

ATaco

Service Level Agreement, Essentially what they've promised to provide me.

user165474

@ATaco yes :P It is technically 2TB but there's a bunch of stuff on it that I can't take off

user165474

@ATaco ah, I see.

MD XF

Oh NANO is a meta acronym too

Nano's ANOther editor

poll: favorite programming meta acronym

Mendeleev

@MDXF GNU HURD

Wheat Wizard

11:25 PM

(They are recursive acronyms)

user165474

btw sorry i keep pinging wrong people bc I count my own messages when counting carets even though they aren't posted yet but also why the hell is my internet suddenly 10 times slower

ATaco

"Thanks for reporting this to us. Let me forward this over to our CEO"

I've gotten action.

user165474

@MDXF I'm So Meta Even This Acronym

Mendeleev

@ATaco On what?

Oh nm I need to read more

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino ISMETA ohhh

Mendeleev

11:26 PM

GNU HURD Acronym expansion:

MD XF

I just like GNU: Gnu's Not Unix

Phoenix

@MDXF shamelessly stolen from xkcd

Mendeleev

It's time [to] explain the meaning of "Hurd". "Hurd" stands for "Hird of Unix-Replacing Daemons". And, then, "Hird" stands for "Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth". We have here, to my knowledge, the first software to be named by a pair of mutually recursive acronyms.

— Thomas (then Michael) Bushnell, Dec, 1991. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Hurd

MD XF

heh

user165474

@Phoenix heh yes

Mendeleev

11:27 PM

links? u there?

user165474

Multiline messages don't format properly.

Mendeleev

Why not?

user165474

Because SE = weird

Phoenix

No markdown in multiline messages

ATaco

I should make a userscript to format mutliline messages.

Phoenix

11:28 PM

No you shouldn't

user165474

*none at all?*
*really?*

Phoenix

Nope

Mendeleev

@ATaco Please do

user165474

also I just freed up 20GB by deleting ~/Documents

Mendeleev

That way I can have 9 userscripts!

@HyperNeutrino What was in it?

user165474

11:29 PM

screen recordings of me trying to get people banned on hypixel ;_;

4

Mendeleev

Hey, I just did that!

@HyperNeutrino hypixel.net/threads/hacker-in-bedwars.1170023

user165474

:P

Mendeleev

What's with you and :P

Downgoat

@HyperNeutrino opls I cleared up 80GB by clearing trash

user165474

@Downgoat wow good job

user165474

11:31 PM

@Mendeleev ':P' is my only friend don't judge

Mendeleev

:P

Wheat Wizard

@Downgoat 80G?! Thats how big my entire hard drive is

Downgoat

though my downloads folder is probably catching u[

Mendeleev

@WheatWizard Get a bigger hard drive.

Downgoat

@WheatWizard O__o my iPad has more space than your hard disk

Mendeleev

11:31 PM

@Downgoat opls. I just freed up 200GB by deleting two of the triplicate HDD images I had for some reason.

Downgoat

@Mendeleev opls I just freed 1.8TB by de-duping my backup sparsebundle on NAS

Wheat Wizard

Technically the physical drive is 2TB, but all but 80G is a completely broken arch partition

Mendeleev

@Downgoat opls two years ago I freed 2TB by reformatting my drives

Phoenix

@Mendeleev Doesn't count

Mendeleev

@Phoenix Why not?

@WheatWizard Broken how?

Phoenix

11:33 PM

It's Arch

Wheat Wizard

^ that

Phoenix

Limiting it to just one way is probably a little difficult.

Mendeleev

hey, I run arch on two computers and a server, no breakage

Phoenix

Mendeleev

My laptop is in my backpack, so here's a desktop screenshot

Wheat Wizard

11:35 PM

I tried to install a tiling window manager and failed, I then accidently broke the boot loader so now I can't even boot into the partition

Mendeleev

user165474

ooo what texture pack is that

Mendeleev

@WheatWizard Boot from an Arch flash drive, mount the partitions, arch-chroot in, and fix the loader

@HyperNeutrino Faithful

Wheat Wizard

Not that easy

user165474

Ooh interesting

Mendeleev

11:36 PM

It's very light and meant to be 32X vanilla

The font is the built in Unicode font

I can't stand the default font, too wide and not enough character support

ATaco

a-ta.co is back online!

Mendeleev

AYYYy

ATaco

They re-assigned my IP by accident, how dare they.

Mendeleev

rip

user165474

lol good job them

user165474

11:37 PM

great customer service

Downgoat

@Mendeleev :| this is cheating

ATaco

It took them 24 hours and two complaints to do anything about it...

Downgoat

@ATaco O_o you are self-hosting

Mendeleev

Switch to ~~the dark side~~ DigitalOcean

Downgoat

brb hacking

Mendeleev

11:38 PM

They have never failed me

user165474

Oh hey I found out why my program wasn't working

Downgoat

@ATaco question: what is your username on your computer?

ATaco

@Downgoat No, an actual hosting company actually assigned the IP of my virtual machine to someone else.

Phoenix

@HyperNeutrino Always a pleasent, if rare, occurance.

user165474

It was a typo >.<

Phoenix

11:39 PM

Most of the time you rewrite the broken statement in question a few times until it works

user165474

and great apparently my language reverses lists now

Downgoat

@ATaco do you use ubuntu?

ATaco

They gave me back my IP address after a fair bit of complaining, and they realized "Whoops"

@Downgoat Yeah.

user165474

Also 0/10 my programming language is very counterintuitive must fix

user165474

wait no that's not a problem, it's stack-based so i'm just being dumb

Uriel

11:41 PM

@HyperNeutrino the benficiality of this would depend on wether it do it when commanded to - or not

user165474

@Uriel It's not meant to; it's because lists are just their own program and tokenized and evaluated as such so it makes sense why it would be but that's not meant to happen

user165474

Also my programming language can by postfix, prefix, or infix, all of them work

user165474

So +++1 2 3 4 and 1 + 2 ++ 3 4 and 1 2 3 4 +++ all do the same thing

Mendeleev

how

ow

Uriel

@HyperNeutrino I'm just starting to think about all of the possible adaptions for polyglots.

Phoenix

11:44 PM

Does it do order of operations

user165474

If there aren't enough values on the stack then it saves the operator and performs it once there are enough values

user165474

No, so infix notation makes no sense.

Destructible Lemon

@HyperNeutrino how

user165474

52 secs ago, by Hyper Neutrino

If there aren't enough values on the stack then it saves the operator and performs it once there are enough values

Phoenix

ono are we going to have stackception again

Destructible Lemon

11:47 PM

@HyperNeutrino this seems problematic somehow, but I don't know

user165474

@DestructibleLemon It's expected behaviour so I hope it's fine :P

Mendeleev

@HyperNeutrino Do you enjoy Bedwars?

user165474

@Mendeleev Yes

Mendeleev

Cool

I'm playing it right now

user165474

ooo

Mendeleev

11:49 PM

3v3v3v3, bed is destroyed

user165474

TheRealAlien still?

user165474

o rip

Destructible Lemon

hmm, it would be ambiguous under some circumstances (meaning it defaults to prefix first) work under some circumstances but all infix, all postfix and all prefix works so I guess it doesn't matter

I think this is a cool thing and has anyone ever made this before

user165474

@DestructibleLemon Can you provide an example of when it would be ambiguous?

Destructible Lemon

I mean, it defaults to starting with prefix

user165474

11:51 PM

@DestructibleLemon Thanks. I wouldn't be surprised but AFAIK I haven't seen any other languages like this before

user165474

@DestructibleLemon I'm still not sure I understand what you mean.

Destructible Lemon

the way you wrote it means when it would be ambiguous under what I say you default to prefix first