The h Bar

6:05 PM

It appears today is my day of writing long answers

darn memory

::sighs::

i need to make a video for homework and the iPad is running out of memory because of who knows what all my mom's put on it...

and i have no other device to make the video and it's due tomorrow ::takes deep breath::

anonymous

@heather Video for hw ? :O What type of video?

heather

@anonymous you're going to look at me really weird, but basically, we have to do a project in social studies about how revolution affects society and we could pick any revolution we wanted, so i picked general relativity, because, i don't know, because, and the teacher somehow roped me into creating a set of notes explaining it along with a few videos to go with the notes, and she wanted them to be close to an 8th grade level so I have to explain the math too and so calculus and aagh.

my mind is decomposing, sorry.

oh, and did I mention it's due tomorrow and was given on thursday of last week?

Bernardo Meurer

@heather They are trying to turn you into a communist

ACuriousMind

@heather Uh, does this teacher know anything about GR?

heather

6:15 PM

@ACuriousMind nope

absolutely nothing

Bernardo Meurer

@heather Do you wear glasses?

ACuriousMind

Then...she might not realize what a hard task "create a set of notes and videos that teach 8th graders something about GR" is

heather

@BernardoMeurer yes....?

how'd you guess?

anonymous

@heather Just copy paste videos from Youtube. She won't even know as it based on GR ;)

heather

@ACuriousMind yeah, but I have this problem, which is I have a hard time saying "no", especially to a teacher.

Bernardo Meurer

6:16 PM

I've been creating a mental image of you

anonymous

There are thousands of GR videos on Youtube

heather

@anonymous i absolutely refuse to cheat, i'm sorry, but just no.

anonymous

:-P

heather

@BernardoMeurer and...what do I look like in your mental image?

ACuriousMind

@heather Yeah, I would've guessed that ;)

Bernardo Meurer

6:18 PM

@heather You're pale, you were glasses, you have black hair

that's all I have

heather

@BernardoMeurer lol, no black hair

Bernardo Meurer

Daniel was entirely different from my mental image lol

ACM too

anonymous

I would have just edited the videos and made them unrecognizable. But kids these days are so upright :D

Bernardo Meurer

well ACM just partially

heather

and i'm pale, i guess, but not that pale, I hope.

Bernardo Meurer

6:19 PM

ACM's hair was a surprise

@heather You're blonde?

heather

@BernardoMeurer yup

John Rennie

@BernardoMeurer: you were thinking Heather is a goth?

Bernardo Meurer

What the heck

@JohnRennie Pretty much

heather

@JohnRennie i know, that's what I was thinking - weird.

For the record: I'm not goth.

John Rennie

@heather: tattoos? nose piercing? :-)

heather

6:20 PM

@JohnRennie lol no

I don't even wear earrings

Bernardo Meurer

I think of her as similar to the girl from "Cirice"'s music video

heather

@BernardoMeurer link please

Bernardo Meurer

Ghost - Cirice (Official Music Video)

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heather

the girl looking out the window once she walks inside?

Bernardo Meurer

Yeah, keep watching

heather

6:21 PM

@BernardoMeurer why what the heck?

@BernardoMeurer okay

ACuriousMind

@heather But, you know, one of these days you're going to have to say "no" or they'll just always burden you with additional stuff to do. Which isn't much of a problem while you're having fun with it, but will become a terrible slog if you're not.

John Rennie

@BernardoMeurer Really? That girl looks to me like a creepy version of Alice from Wonderland.

Bernardo Meurer

@ACuriousMind Very good advice

@JohnRennie Cool right?

John Rennie

@BernardoMeurer Being a psycho is cool? Maybe it is :-)

Bernardo Meurer

@JohnRennie I've been told I only go for crazy women, maybe this extends to everything else too

On this note, I wish Ghost had less Pop in their music

Some of their arrangements sound like Linkin Park or some crap

@heather Still watching?

anonymous

6:27 PM

@BernardoMeurer Try one of these :) google.ae/… Heather seems to be a very common name in the West!

heather

@BernardoMeurer just finished

that was weird

good beat, but weird

Bernardo Meurer

@heather Yeah, Ghost is weird

heather

that's a bit of an understatement

Bernardo Meurer

Although Death Grips is the real weirdness

Death Grips - Giving Bad People Good Ideas

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Try this

Pretty much my favourite thing to listen to right now

@ACuriousMind You might like that, actually

anonymous

@heather Your profile pic looked like a candle to me till today. Now I realize its a rocket :/ :P

Bernardo Meurer

6:30 PM

@anonymous I thought it was a candle for months too

heather

@anonymous, that's nothing new =P

ACuriousMind

Nov 2 '16 at 18:57, by ACuriousMind

I have spent weeks under the impression that's a candle!

anonymous

More like a "Diya" :)

heather

would anyone mind taking a look at the notes I've written so far?

github.com/physicsnerd/general-relativity-notes/blob/master/…

the end part isn't anywhere near finished, and some is just brought over from my calculus repository, which is why there's an appendix but some of the main text isn't done

Bernardo Meurer

I'm not sure "providing intuition" is a thing :P

Line 2

heather

6:31 PM

@BernardoMeurer yeah, well, it is now =P

John Rennie

@heather is there a PDF for the non-Latex enabled?

heather

oh, darn, did I provide the wrong link?

yeah, I did

github.com/physicsnerd/general-relativity-notes

Bernardo Meurer

@JohnRennie You're non-latex enabled?

heather

there's more than just that part @BernardoMeurer

@JohnRennie sure, one moment

Bernardo Meurer

@heather That repo is a mess

heather

6:33 PM

@BernardoMeurer yeah, I know

Bernardo Meurer

@heather github.com/bemeurer/chemistry

heather

it's because I've been in a hurry

Bernardo Meurer

Try Daniel's modularity techniques

and then use folders

heather

yeah, i know i need to use folders

i'll fix that at a later date, right now i'm trying to just get the thing done

@JohnRennie, hmm, the way I was going to create a pdf isn't working

lemme try another way

John Rennie

Latex is such an obvious choice to use for writing documents. Far simpler than MS Word.

Bernardo Meurer

6:36 PM

@JohnRennie You gotta be shitting me now

heather

@JohnRennie it is indeed.

wait, you're not being sarcastic, are you?

John Rennie

@heather ah, you spotted that :-)

heather

dude, 1. i'm on a chromebook, so google docs, not ms word, and 2. things in google docs with anything other than text look like complete junk

AccidentalFourierTransform

@BernardoMeurer out of curiosity, do you have a mental image of me? =P

heather

@JohnRennie, ::sighs:: I'm sorry, but there's no way it seems like for me to do this without it taking more time than it took for me to type the LaTeX

John Rennie

6:37 PM

Never mind.

heather

there's got to be a better way, let me see...

John Rennie

How are you planning to render it for the presentation?

Bernardo Meurer

@AccidentalFourierTransform Brown hair, white but not pale, maybe a slight tan, about 178 in height, skinny, square face

heather

print out the pdf from compiling

John Rennie

@heather given the time pressure I'd be incined to just get on with the writing :-)

heather

6:39 PM

oh, wait, figured it out

John Rennie

@heather then you can create a pdf?

Bernardo Meurer

@heather Be like me, go buy 2L bottle of energy drink

anonymous

@AccidentalFourierTransform My mental image of you is s3.favim.com/orig/151213/… I never imagined you as a human :P

AccidentalFourierTransform

@BernardoMeurer almost. Let me go grab my camera and take a selfie

John Rennie

@BernardoMeurer beer is an energy drink?

AccidentalFourierTransform

6:40 PM

Bernardo Meurer

lol

@JohnRennie To me it is

anonymous

I thought you were cuter :P

@AccidentalFourierTransform

Not a street mafia :D

heather

@JohnRennie create but not save, until i realized what I was doing

John Rennie

anonymous

@BernardoMeurer What is your mental image of me ? :D

John Rennie

6:44 PM

I have to go now anyway. I have the washing to fold. Less fun than GR :-(

Bernardo Meurer

@anonymous None

@JohnRennie It's a bit early, even for you :P

anonymous

@BernardoMeurer I was successfully able to hide my identity then. Yay !

John Rennie

@BernardoMeurer I'm not going to bed for a few hours yet. After I've folded the washing, a beer and my latest scifi book await me :-)

Bernardo Meurer

@JohnRennie What beer?

heather

okay, I have the pdf

John Rennie

6:46 PM

Hmm, I might have a Hobgoblin tonight.

@heather link?

heather

it should be uploaded into the github repo under main-file.pdf

Bernardo Meurer

@JohnRennie I've been wanting to try that for a while

can't find it here

heather

github.com/physicsnerd/general-relativity-notes/blob/master/…

John Rennie

@BernardoMeurer Hobgoblin is nice, but not amazingly special. It's just one a lot of nice bitters available in the UK. Right now life is good for the beer drinker in the UK. Prices are coming down as well as the pubs get more desperate.

@heather I fear you will have a lot of baffled classmates ...

heather

yeah.

i did a terrible job, i know.

John Rennie

6:51 PM

Anyway I really must go

Bernardo Meurer

@JohnRennie I actually need to stop drinking

My liver is starting to cry for help

John Rennie

As long as you stick to beer it's hard to do any real damage to your liver

Bernardo Meurer

Doesn't seem like it, lol

John Rennie

It's when you start drinking spirits you have a potential problem

Bernardo Meurer

I've been on a fast rhythm lately though

~1-2L of beer a day

AccidentalFourierTransform

6:53 PM

@JohnRennie I beg to differ

@BernardoMeurer dude thats a lot lol

youre too young

heather

you're drinking one of those big pop bottles full of beer a day!?

John Rennie

How do you afford it? We used to go out twice or maybe three times a term. OK, on those occasions we'd get completely arseholed, but still it was only three times a term. We just didn't have the money to drink any more than that.

AccidentalFourierTransform

@heather in page 10, the derivative of g(x)/h(x) is wrong

heather

@AccidentalFourierTransform, okay, let me take a look

AccidentalFourierTransform

you wrote $1/\cos^x=\sin^2x$

Bernardo Meurer

6:56 PM

@JohnRennie I pay 1.5 € on the litre

heather

so I did

that's nuts.

i'll fix that.

Bernardo Meurer

@JohnRennie It's not expensive

heather

@DanielSank, hello

John Rennie

@BernardoMeurer That's ... cheap :-)

Is it good beer?

DanielSank

@DavidCarlisle Yes. You have no idea.

@heather 'sup?

Bernardo Meurer

6:57 PM

@JohnRennie It's good enough actually

Super Bock

@AccidentalFourierTransform Not too young

heather

@DanielSank, nothing much, just me feeling more stupid than usual

John Rennie

I have to say I'm not a fan of drinking every day. I think that's a slippery slope. Save up your ECUs and drink a skinful at the weekend.

Bernardo Meurer

ECUs?

John Rennie

Or whatever they call it these days.

DanielSank

@BernardoMeurer wat?

heather

6:58 PM

pounds? euros? dollars?

AccidentalFourierTransform

@JohnRennie its always saturday somewhere

John Rennie

European Currency Unit

The European Currency Unit (₠ or ECU, French pronunciation: [eky]) was a basket of the currencies of the European Community member states, used as the unit of account of the European Community before being replaced by the euro on the 1st of January 1999, at parity. The ECU itself replaced the European Unit of Account, also at parity, on the 13th of March 1979. The European Exchange Rate Mechanism attempted to minimize fluctuations between member state currencies and the ECU. The ECU was also used in some international financial transactions, where its advantage was that securities denominated...

Bernardo Meurer

Ah

lol

Euro

John Rennie

So I'm only 17 years out of date :-)

heather

lol

Bernardo Meurer

6:59 PM

@JohnRennie Fucking brits :P

John Rennie

No swearing please we're British

Bernardo Meurer

Exactly my point

John Rennie

Anyway, wasn't it nice of us to leave the EC just to make the Euro exchange rate look good.

Bernardo Meurer

I hate the british pound

it makes everything more expensive

John Rennie

Buy in dollars

Bernardo Meurer

7:02 PM

And pay tax from shipping outside the EU? No way

Screw you VAT!

John Rennie

:-)

heather

dollars are best (not that I'm biased or anything)

John Rennie

There are lots of really nice cheap laptops on ebay.com, but by the time you've paid the import duty the savings evaporate :-(

Bernardo Meurer

@heather Oh shut up :P

John Rennie

Anyway, I'm off!
(I'm not really, I just smell that way)

heather

7:04 PM

@JohnRennie good day, John Rennie

i think my only hope with this project is that the teacher doesn't really read through it.

Bernardo Meurer

@heather Look, I'll teach you how I used to do school essays

grab some searchable PDFs on the topic

select some keywords

white a script that mashes up paragraphs containing those keywords from the PDFs

anonymous

@BernardoMeurer Heather refuses to cheat :P

Bernardo Meurer

rearrange them in a way that makes sense

write a script that replaces some words with synonyms

be done

heather

and also, my teacher isn't an idiot, i think she could spot gibberish.

Bernardo Meurer

@anonymous It's art

heather

7:08 PM

@BernardoMeurer, lol.

anonymous

@BernardoMeurer I know. I would have done the same. XD

For videos I would just edit some youtube videos

heather

I do know one thing, though. I have no idea how I will be able to type all my notes up, create all the diagrams, and do it all in approximately four hours.

i still have like 10 pages of notes filled with math and diagrams.

::facepalms::

DanielSank

@BernardoMeurer did you get my package?

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank I went there, but I need to receive a confirmation email from the customs office before I can pick it up

So now I wait for email

DanielSank

>:(

The HD is probably moldy now.

Bernardo Meurer

7:12 PM

Ffs

Did you declare pricing when you sent it?

DanielSank

yes

I said $100 or something.

Bernardo Meurer

THIS IS WHY

OMG

DanielSank

I dunno.

-_-

Bernardo Meurer

lol

You just say 0 bucks

in hope they buy it

DanielSank

Attention all:

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The Mathjax Singularity

@BernardoMeurer Well now I know.

Bernardo Meurer

7:15 PM

@DanielSank <3

@DanielSank Better than the new Star Wars

DanielSank

@BernardoMeurer I liked Rogue One.

Bernardo Meurer

Haven't seen it, I was talking about VII

DanielSank

@BernardoMeurer Oh yeah that one was crap.

heather

@BernardoMeurer YOU MUST SEE ROGUE ONE!!!

DanielSank

IMHO

heather

7:16 PM

@DanielSank IMHO it was meh, not terrible.

Bernardo Meurer

@heather Buy me a ticket

heather

BB-8 saved it all

DanielSank

I mean, whatever, VII was fine.

heather

@BernardoMeurer erm...how?

DanielSank

Yeah, it was just kinda unoriginal.

heather

7:17 PM

you live halfway around the world, i'm not sure how that works.

@DanielSank true.

DanielSank

~Sigh~, bernardo stop asking everyone for $$.

@BernardoMeurer did I tell you I got sick of the Smash community bitching about crappy websites and started a db for tracking competitive games?

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank I have about 3-4 addictions to support right now

It's a hard life

I need $$

DanielSank

I have this idea: when you want to run a tournament, you make an entry in the db, and this generates a token. Then you have a mobile app where you register for a tournament.

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank Oh really? That's cool!

DanielSank

Your games are generated in the db.

dmckee

7:19 PM

@heather When you are relying on a cute character to buoy up a film you know there are problems.

DanielSank

Then after you play, you and your opponent have to both input the same result. Since you're both authenticated, if you both agree on the result, it's recorded into the db.

I think this would be very, very cool.

heather

@dmckee yeah, but...cute character!

dmckee

Cute characters can add to a charming film, but placed in a poor flick they just point up the failings of what goes on around them.

Bernardo Meurer

@dmckee A modern cornerstone of philosophy you are

(not being sarcastic)

DanielSank

@dmckee wiser words were never uttered.

@BernardoMeurer

Lushlife Project - Wurlitzer

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dmckee

7:21 PM

I though The Force Awakens didn't suck, but I was happy I went during a matinee. Haven't seen Rouge One yet.

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank Listening

I need a girlfriend, at the same time I do not want to date anymore

DanielSank

@dmckee IMHO, Rogue One did a lot of things right.

It's not a perfect movie, and not my favorite Star Wars movie, but it's good.

The end was excellent in my opinion.

I mean the last five minutes. I will say no more.

Bernardo Meurer

@DanielSank Reminds me of the soundtrack of Sword & Sorcery

Sword & Sworcery LP - All Soundtracks

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dmckee

I've been a bit gun shy ever since the alleged prequels. Once bitten, you know.

DanielSank

Yes, I know.

Bernardo Meurer

7:23 PM

I don't think the prequels are that bad

I think people are little bitches about it to sound cool

DanielSank

The prequels had one of the better plots of any sci-fi I've seen, but the acting was so bad that it hurt.

Bernardo Meurer

They're worse than the original trilogy

DanielSank

@BernardoMeurer No way, dude.

They were terribly edited and directed. The basic plot was fantastic, but that's it.

Bernardo Meurer

Bah

DanielSank

There are layers to the plot.

Bernardo Meurer

7:24 PM

I don't see it

dmckee

I rather like the analysis that the machete order guy does of them.

But I most like the red letter media reviews. Those are better than the movies they're about.

DanielSank

Oh my goodness that's genius.

IV, V, II, III, VI.

YES

YES YES YES

That really makes a lot of sense.

The one thing missing from III plotwise, IMHO, is why Anakin became so evil.

dmckee

@DanielSank They had a great idea for a plot, but they never actually filled in the details in a convincing way. And it wasn't just the rotten acting, the story wasn't convincing. The 'romance' wasn't told in a believable way. The radicalization was just pasted in as a fact and not shown happening.

DanielSank

I didn't buy the nightmares about Padme dying.

dmckee

Ye Gods! But they needed a writer!

DanielSank

7:26 PM

@dmckee I agree.

Bernardo Meurer

What about I?

DanielSank

I was horrible.

The pod race was cool, I guess.

The video game they made from that is really fun.

@dmckee What I'm attempting to articulate is that the broad strokes of the story were really excellent.

The idea that the emperor started the war on purpose may be an old one, but it's a good one.

dmckee

@DanielSank Yeah. There is a good story at the core. Now someone needs to tell it.

DanielSank

Yep.

I really think that if Snoke were to turn out to be Plagueis the whole thing could be saved, but sadly it won't happen.

@DanielSank

7:35 PM

@BernardoMeurer Das coo'.

Skyler

9:01 PM

@DanielSank ha, I was just discussing all this good stuff last night with a frien

@DanielSank trudat

The single largest issue with episodes 1-3 was that George Lucas didn't have a person there who would say "No". Everybody was a Yes-man

He's also awful at the details and nuance of screenplay

DanielSank

@Skyler Y U NO FIGHT ME?

Skyler

@DanielSank oy

heather

@DanielSank this might redeem Jar Jar for you: reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3qvj6w/…

Skyler

y u no race me bro

heather

don't wince until you read

Skyler

9:07 PM

haha heather, also talked about this with friend last night too

DanielSank

@heather Yeah, Darth Binks.

@Skyler I'll race you any time.

(although you will utterly destroy me)

Skyler is amazing at Episode I Racer.

Skyler

also I was actually going to as about doing smash last night earlier in the week but a few other friends wanted to do some dnd

DanielSank

dnd, eh?

Skyler

@DanielSank first game I owned =)

DanielSank

@Skyler It shows.

Skyler

9:09 PM

the funny part was that like after 10 years i went back and played it again, and was better at it than i ever was after like half an hour (this was 2-3 years ago).

DanielSank

@Skyler Yeah that happens

You're smarter etc. now.

Skyler

it felt really weird to beat all those "really hard" records my bro had set

btw @DanielSank we got someone here whos actually teaching a quantum computing course this quarter

DanielSank

@Skyler Wim Van Dam?

Skyler

yea

DanielSank

Yah I went to his class.

Skyler

9:13 PM

good stuff?

DanielSank

It was ok. I learned stuff.

The beginning is boring you already know QM.

Skyler

@DanielSank true, it starts with notation really

sad part is ive got a 60% conflict in my schedule, i was thinking about asking for his notes for that

also thought you might find it handy for @heather, but im betting you already have your old notes

DanielSank

@Skyler Not for that course.

Skyler

@DanielSank if i get them would you like me to pass it your way?

DanielSank

nah

Skyler

9:21 PM

Alight, I may end up bugging you with questions if youll have them down the line

;P

DanielSank

no problem

wait what?

You'll bug me if I have what?

Danu

i.imgur.com/0rHAQ2L.gifv

This is pretty awesome.

Skyler

youll have them (aka just a fancy way of saying if you dont mind)

DanielSank

@Danu o_O

Skyler

i love those p900 videos

once im rolling in extra income i want to get one of those, some kind of flir IR camera, and a 50000 fps like a phantom, and maybe even play around with making a femtophotographic system

Joshua Lin

9:40 PM

lol

Akiva Weinberger

10:00 PM

Hello. Visiting from the math chat. What's up?

Skyler

well, the sky

heather

outer space, if you have the appropriate frame of reference

Skyler

the origin of space and time, from the appropriate frame of reference

Emilio Pisanty

10:15 PM

Hey @peterh, what's with this review? Seriously not cool, man.

David Z

@EmilioPisanty indeed

heather

@EmilioPisanty that's weird

that should never have been approved by anyone

David Z

Of course everyone has a bad mental day or makes a mistake now and then. An occasional messed up review is not so terrible. But it is still good to call attention to these things.

heather

yeah, i suppose so.

i've probably made my fair share of stupid reviews.

ACuriousMind

10:36 PM

@EmilioPisanty I don't think that pinged him, he doesn't show up in the autocomplete list

heather

10:52 PM

I feel like an idiot asking this, but what's the difference between cosmologists and astronomers? and, for that matter, astrophysicists?

Emilio Pisanty

@ACuriousMind yeah, I imagine it didn't. oh well, I can't be bothered to chase him on one of his answers or whatever.

Sir Cumference

@heather Oh neat

Lemme answer: astronomers and astrophysicists were historically different things, but are now synonymous

heather

okay, so astronomers=astrophysicists

Emilio Pisanty

@heather the primary difference, as I understand it, is that astronomers' job is observing astronomical objects, and astrophysicists work on building models for them and understanding the physics behind them

Sir Cumference

An astronomer/astrophysicist studies what is in the universe. Cosmologists study how the universe began and how it is evolving.

heather

10:59 PM

so...astrophysicists are more theoretical? @EmilioPisanty

Sir Cumference

@EmilioPisanty That's historical

heather

@SirCumference that makes sense, i think

Emilio Pisanty

@SirCumference (pending word from someone in the field) I rather disagree

Sir Cumference

They're entirely the same now.

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