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Glorfindel
Glorfindel
10:00 AM
I'm not here long enough to decide what constitutes an acceptable TP/FP ratio.
 
Edity
Edity
@Undo ok sure I'll wait
goodnight
 
tripleee
tripleee
ah, but they are not adjacent: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/… gets zero false positives
(or maybe MySQL regex search sucks again ... hang on)
yay, even with six adjacent, no FPs
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
OK, I say go for it :)
 
tripleee
tripleee
seven gets me 109 hits, no FPs and six gets me 129
yeah, I'll submit another PR
only I have some "real work" to do first
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: How does DLC work with Xbox One backwards compatibility? by Govind Dhera on gaming.stackexchange.com
 
CaffeineAddiction
CaffeineAddiction
10:16 AM
false pos
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
Still in doubt. It smells fishy.
 
CaffeineAddiction
CaffeineAddiction
i followed it, its to a blog post
might be self promotion but its not selling anything
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: by using the quit of the clinical methods Elite Male Extra by user83416 on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeated URL at end of long post: Everybody particularly, lady test x 360 by cutdom plad122 on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@CaffeineAddiction check this list. First, they tried to spam Android SE with it. This is the same user as the Apple one.
Admittedly, this post in isolation isn't convincing enough to be spam.
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeated URL at end of long post: test x 360 pores while settling by cutdom plad3213 on apple.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: This supplement must be acquired from natural slim life Internet by Caut1965 on apple.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel on test x 360 pores while settling [MS]
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
10:24 AM
!!/blacklist-website amazfitpace\.com
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Glorfindel You don't have code privileges, but I've created a pull request for you.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Make Your Bigger Within The Quickly & Easily by user135193 on security.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to prepare celery for dipping? by Mikemayers on cooking.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Are the citrus seeds necessary when making marmalade? by Mikemayers on cooking.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: Waddup invaders is this Macdonald? by Mikemayers on cooking.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Comedy where dummy blows up movie set before cameras are rolling by Mikemayers on movies.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel on How to prepare celery for dipping? [MS]
tpu- by Glorfindel on Waddup invaders is this Macdonald? [MS]
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Revived Youth Cream Clean your sunglasses or prescription eyeglasses at least once a week if you wear them often by user135068 on meta.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: pre-workoutideas.com/natural-slim-life/ by Afearighte on workplace.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
10:43 AM
!!/blacklist-keyword natural\Wslim\Wlife
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Glorfindel You don't have code privileges, but I've created a pull request for you.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: How do I recover files from my Windows 7 VirtualBox partition? by Mack on superuser.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: govern the skin aging? by yithashelly on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: WooCommerce Cart page needs to update live without the Update Cart button by Dave on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
fp- by Glorfindel
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
11:16 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title: What are capacity of zyntix? by user83421 on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
Restart: API quota is 6857.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Email in answer: Vindictive vs. Vindicative by robert bickley on english.stackexchange.com
naa- by Glorfindel
 
angussidney
angussidney
@SmokeDetector wtf?
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: platinumcleanserinfo.com/zyntix-reviews/ by user135200 on security.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: What Regarding its Side Results? HL12 Supplement by 1holyland on superuser.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Create two threads, one display odd & other even numbers by Rohan Anand on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: I want to convert algorithm into the Android studio code by Jems K on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: cleanserenewnorway.com/biotinox/ by user134957 on workplace.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted user: Choosing $n$ times from $n$ objects by raydounahammed on mathoverflow.net
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
Those Workplace ones vanish quickly...
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
Yeah, because they only need 3 red flags (reference)
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
11:30 AM
fp- by Glorfindel
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
AH that's right, forgot
On ELU too, right?
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
Correct.
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: WHAT IS THIS supplementplatform.com/soleil-glo/ by Sherigardner on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How do i fit all my text in one straight frame in HTML? by Hoch on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] No whitespace in answer: Add product to cart programmatically by user71259 on drupal.stackexchange.com
naa- by Glorfindel
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
@SmokeDetector naa
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Mithrandir You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
11:35 AM
@SmokeDetector n
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
tpu- by DavidPostill
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@Mithrandir Cat like typing should be flagged rude/abusive
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
That was directed at the 'Please jsfiddle'.
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Napping Each Day Boosts Mental Ability And Memory by user638214 on askubuntu.com (@ThomasWard)
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
angussidney
angussidney
@DavidPostill that wasn't cat typing
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
11:38 AM
I NAA'd the Drupal because it had one readable word in it.
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@angussidney Close enough. Still gibberish.
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
@DavidPostill I did. That was the other one.
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
I've had a few abusive flags disputed on SO on posts which were just a string of 'aaaaa's'.
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@Mithrandir Ah. OK
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
Next time click on that little reply arrow :)
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
11:40 AM
@DavidPostill check the post now, the user was actually testing something.
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
<shrug>
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer: Ways to protect phone from hacking through a wifi network when travelling by bella on security.stackexchange.com
tpu- by DavidPostill
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Exercises To Achieve Inches? by Julie Jarr on apple.stackexchange.com
tpu- by DavidPostill
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Effective Ways to Qualify for a Federal Student Loan Consolidation by Delinda Hathcock on money.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
Sigh - are these guys (themobileupdates.com) now spamming Arqade?
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
Yep
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
11:51 AM
But I flagged as NAA because it's more a 'link only answer
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
I'm sure that flag will be approved as well.
But I'm sensing a pattern here, and hope the Arqade moderators will now be aware of them.
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: the second most prominent building material after pottery by romeekhan03 on apple.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: The bad criticism produced by Makmoalex on gaming.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: What is the difference between Ubiquitous Computing and Cloud Computing? by user7374021 on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: platinumcleanserinfo.com/biogenic-xr/ by user348152 on meta.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
angussidney
angussidney
@Glorfindel I left a comment on the post and a message in their main chatroom, it should be deleted soonish
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
Thanks!
 
angussidney
angussidney
@SmokeDetector gone
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
12:16 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Error thrown when opening e-mails using outlook api by CallPC Expert on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by Glorfindel
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user: Office 365 API Outlook Paging not working by CallPC Expert on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by Glorfindel
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: How does constant profit club help you to generate income? by bragafred68 on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
!!/blacklist-website theconstantprofitsclub\.com
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Glorfindel You don't have code privileges, but I've created a pull request for you.
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
12:36 PM
!!/alive
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Mithrandir Of course
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post, blacklisted user: supplement4help.com/zyntix/ by cutdom plad32134 on apple.stackexchange.com
tpu- by teward
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@Undo I poke thee and summon thou to a secret location known only to the Darkness itself.
 
Magisch
Magisch
Probably the teacher's lounge
But wait
then you'd have pinged him there
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
no not there
 
Magisch
Magisch
Are powerful wards protecting that place?
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
12:39 PM
@angussidney you're next on my list of people to throw sticks at btw
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
Why? :P
!!/blame
 
Magisch
Magisch
Am I on that list @ThomasWard?
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Mithrandir It's Glorfindel's fault.
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@Mithrandir secret
@Magisch no
unless you want to be on that list, but third and fourth spots on that list have sticks replaced with orbitally-launched tungsten carbide rods about 5 ft in diameter and 18 ft long, so...
(I tend to reserve this list for serious problems:P)
 
Magisch
Magisch
I'm better off warding those off then
(I have a terrible weakness for making terrible puns)
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
12:42 PM
:P
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@Magisch Don't do anything you might regret afterwards :)
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
CI on 937ad5e succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 937ad5e (Thomas Ward: Align comments right. --autopull) (running on teward/Aurora)
Restart: API quota is 6229.
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
^ yes I'm OCD about this kind of thing until I get my two coffees a day
 
Magisch
Magisch
I got off Pepsi Light 2 months ago
used to chug it like water
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
I'm a coffee addict - I need my two coffees a day :P
 
Magisch
Magisch
12:46 PM
Now I chug tea and uh ... water like water
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@ThomasWard I wanted to reward you but that might be awkward. Or did I get that backwards?
 
Magisch
Magisch
I swear pepsi light is evil
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@DavidPostill glares with evil eyes
o/ @ArtOfCode you have urgent summons
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
Hm?
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: delete......................................delete by user213586 on english.stackexchange.com
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
12:53 PM
@SmokeDetector vandalism
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Mithrandir You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Zyntix more full's earth by cutdom plad21154 on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
tripleee
tripleee
@SmokeDetector vandalism
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
CI on b507b3a succeeded.
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
!!/pull
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev b507b3a (Thomas Ward: Revoke Mark's access in CHQ) (running on teward/Aurora)
Restart: API quota is 6147.
 
Magisch
Magisch
12:58 PM
:o?
@ThomasWard What happened?
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@Magisch Darkness has its secrets, thine shall never know of it's secrets and true powers.
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Magisch we'll get explanations out in a minute, this is unfolding at the moment.
 
Magisch
Magisch
This is unsettling
This has only ever happened once before and that was a complete disaster then
 
Andy
Andy
@ThomasWard If you weren't wearing a Darth Vader hat, this would be unsettling. Since you are...carry on.
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
TL;DR: Pretty serious moderation issue. All ye regulars have nothing to worry about :)
 
Magisch
Magisch
1:00 PM
@ArtOfCode All confidential?
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@Andy fun fact, my fantasy alter ego is a level 30 dark mage who channels the Darkness itself into magical forces of power. :P
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Magisch Mostly. I'm trying to work out if there's anything we can share.
 
Andy
Andy
@ThomasWard Everyone has a weakness. Your alter ego's weakness is fluffy bunnies, isn't it?
 
Magisch
Magisch
My alter ego is a smiley just like this one but it's wearing a different colored headset
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@Andy my weakness is the girl who's dating me right now. I've known her for 10 years. Only she has access beyond the dark forces :p
(this is in both worlds)
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
1:08 PM
Okey doke, let's see how close I can skirt the lines. TL;DR: Mark's privileges were removed because of a serious moderation issue elsewhere on Stack Exchange. There's not much I can share without violating some agreement or other, so in the spirit of suspension messages: "This user's privileges were revoked for rule violations". This doesn't and won't affect anyone else.
^ cc @Undo because Undo, and @angussidney because you did the priv grant at my request.
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
^ and this is why I was pinging "Red Alert" on you guys
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: natural slim lifenatural slim life This by kahdizoke24 on workplace.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Jan Dvorak
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
Oh, and a Deputy badge on AU. Very shiny.
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
:P
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
I'm trying to get the flagbadges :P
I have 3 Deputies.
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
1:16 PM
Infosec is probably my next Deputy, followed by TWP
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: The answer is the key by JaroslawKaczynski on puzzling.stackexchange.com
 
Andy
Andy
Today's Accomplishment:
> 100,032 helpful
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@ArtOfCode we should really be reviewing those blacklist requests
I'm just lazy :)
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in body: about c++ function by Ugur Baki on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
1:24 PM
@SmokeDetector vandalism
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@SmokeDetector vandalism
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
blacklist requests? I haven't even looked at GH yet
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
there's 5
 
Magisch
Magisch
I would but I don't have the ability to approve GH requests, even though I can blacklist
shakes fist
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
lol
 
Magisch
Magisch
1:25 PM
It's actually because I cannot python
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
lol
blacklists don't need any python :)
now, making things behave needs python :p
 
Andy
Andy
Here come the approvals. watches phone go crazy
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
CI on 18b36b8 succeeded.
CI on 4f8b841 succeeded.
 
Magisch
Magisch
Seriously though, @ArtOfCode is there a way to make it so I can approve github pull requests, but only ones affecting the text files holding the blacklists?
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Magisch technically, yes. It does, however, involve a fair bit of development.
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
1:27 PM
CI on ed77318 succeeded.
 
Andy
Andy
Github doesn't have that level of granularity
 
Magisch
Magisch
Awh
:(
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
CI on 2a0b527 succeeded.
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
We could do it by having you add a comment saying !!/approve, then picking that up on metasmoke, using our own permissions system, and having metasmoke merge the request.
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
but that'd need developed :P
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
1:29 PM
indeed
 
Magisch
Magisch
Thats a lot of development time for not a whole lot
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
CI on 65e4839 succeeded.
 
Magisch
Magisch
Ah well, then y'all stuck with approving the blacklist requests
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
!!/pull
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
Restart: API quota is 5867.
 
Magisch
Magisch
1:31 PM
@ArtOfCode Maybe it's also time to allow Glorfindel to do his own blacklisting, judging by this: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/…
 
tripleee
tripleee
@Magisch I was thinking that, too
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
Wow, that's a nice heap of PRs
 
tripleee
tripleee
but then there really needs to be a review of the blacklist from time to time
 
Magisch
Magisch
@tripleee the blacklist is self reviewing
 
tripleee
tripleee
which is not to say there should not be one anyways, so ...
 
Magisch
Magisch
1:34 PM
If we get one/several FPs from a blacklisted website, someone will remove it
 
tripleee
tripleee
@Magisch how so? you notice if there are FPs but not if it's full of effectively no-op patterns which only make it slower
and besides, a self-approved FP magnet could make things unpleasant here until it is fixed
 
Magisch
Magisch
I don't think this makes it any slower
AFAIK it's all compiled into 1 regex
 
Mark Yisri
Mark Yisri
@ArtOfCode i thought we didn't hold grudges
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Magisch marginally, it does - the resulting regex is longer, and takes longer to match against
 
tripleee
tripleee
more data means more data to process one way or another
 
Magisch
Magisch
1:35 PM
I think we're tens of thousands of websites off from it mattering
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@MarkYisri we don't like holding grudges, no, but this whole system runs on trust - if we don't have that, it just can't work.
 
tripleee
tripleee
if you are tricky, you could create a single blacklist entry which has effectively infinite run time
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
I might run some tests on this
 
Magisch
Magisch
Sure
I assume we're all playing in good faith here
@art opinions on giving glorfindel blacklist privs?
 
tripleee
tripleee
could be good faith, I've had bugs in my code which did this when my regexes got too complex
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
1:37 PM
@Magisch Course not, I'm just here to increase my flags :P
 
tripleee
tripleee
also, witness some of my Metasmoke queries earlier today, which had run times of tens of thousands of milliseconds just because I was lazy with the regex (and/or not comfortable with the wacky variant supported by MySQL)
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Magisch yeah, why not. @Glorfindel done
 
Magisch
Magisch
@ArtOfCode As far as I've seen he's been using the command with consideration and care
 
tripleee
tripleee
(I assume that means "PRs merged", not "privileges granted")
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@tripleee both, actually
 
tripleee
tripleee
1:39 PM
@ArtOfCode ok, yay for that
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: ZYNTIX POWERFUL by cutdom plad366 on security.stackexchange.com
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
How often do you give people privileges?
Not looking for any now, just wondering.
 
Magisch
Magisch
When the admins trust them
There's no fixed guideline, only common sense
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
I can see
>In theory, anyone can be added to the privilege list. In practice, this doesn't always work out, so as a general guideline, we look for a few things to indicate how qualified you are.
 
Magisch
Magisch
The gist is
be here and be reasonable
When you've been here for a while and been reasonable for a while, you can ask
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
1:51 PM
@Magisch Or get offered?
yesterday, by angussidney
@Mithrandir you've been in here for a while and seem to have some sort of grasp over what we do and how to use the bot, are you interested in getting priviliges?
 
Magisch
Magisch
could be
as I said, no fixed rule
you want to talk to art or angus or thomas or undo or ferry
 
tripleee
tripleee
the Git log for {{globalvars.py}} gives you some idea of how often people in here get added, though obviously there are many other kinds of modifications there, too
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: When do drops reset? by CSGOplayer on gaming.stackexchange.com
tpu- by tripleee
 
Magisch
Magisch
Somehow our time to deletion is getting fantastically lower
I wonder if we have stats on that
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
This might be thanks to the autoflags
 
Magisch
Magisch
1:56 PM
Is one autoflag really making that much of a difference?
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
More people know about Smokey = more flags = faster deletion
 
tripleee
tripleee
^ git blame on the CHQ privileges section
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
Which reminds me .. we should probably disable autoflags on sites that delete at a lower number of flags
 
Magisch
Magisch
Maybe we dont need to, but if we're raising it to be 2-3 auto flags, then definitely
 
tripleee
tripleee
the associated commit is often misleading because the next commit after the "real deal" often adds a trailing comma to the previous entry in the list
 
Magisch
Magisch
1:57 PM
lest we run the risk of creating the self reinforcing orouboros
 
tripleee
tripleee
Python allows you to put the comma in preemptively so maybe we should start doing that just to get saner diffs
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
As an alternate suggestion, how about the leading comma method? Could be fun.
 
Magisch
Magisch
You have a very ... peculiar definition of fun
 
tripleee
tripleee
ugh
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Magisch metasmoke/graphs
last graph is TTD
min TTD was 314 last week, it's 306 this week
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
2:01 PM
time to deletion?
 
tripleee
tripleee
yeah
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
The last report was "deleted half a minute after being reported" - 30 seconds. 306 is 5 minutes. What am I missing?
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@DavidPostill average TTD
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
There were a few that lasted like 10 minutes
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@ArtOfCode ah - please fix the graph lable ;p
 
tripleee
tripleee
2:10 PM
and some which are never deleted
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@tripleee we probably don't include those in the graph
Okay, results of timing the blacklist operations. A 10-item blacklist takes 1ms to parse, format, and run. A 100-item blacklist takes 7ms. 1000 items takes 91ms, and 10k items takes 1079ms.
So actually, blacklist entries do have a tangible impact on performance.
!!/location
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@ArtOfCode teward/Aurora
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@ThomasWard is Aurora's storage HDD-based or SSD-based?
 
Mithrandir
Mithrandir
@angussidney Now I'm getting sort of an idea as to how to use the bot.
 
Magisch
Magisch
@ArtOfCode Do you want me to go through the website blacklist and search and eliminate some redundancies?
 
tripleee
tripleee
2:15 PM
I'm not him but that would be wonderful
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
Can do, yeah. I was also thinking that we could just remove any entries that we haven't heard anything from in over a month.
 
tripleee
tripleee
have you spotted any, though? I'd think there aren't a lot
 
Magisch
Magisch
Our blacklist is currently holding 805 entries
 
tripleee
tripleee
while noop entries are probably abundant
(i.e. no recent hits)
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@tripleee some of the old entries are probably dead and buried by now
 
tripleee
tripleee
2:16 PM
the more complex regexes in the code are probably harder but also more rewarding
the regex for blacklisted username contains some stuff I have never seen
(granted, I've only been active here for a few weeks)
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
2:27 PM
@ArtOfCode SSD, I think
but it's a KVM
so it runs containerized
host node is SSDs, though, I believe
i'll double check
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
SSD will make that performance impact a touch better
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@ArtOfCode it's SSD based, yes.
Standard KVM SSD VPS - ramnode.com/vps.php - no i'm not advertising, this is just for the records. it's a 1024MB plan.
(in New York City, if it matters)
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@ArtOfCode oh, thanks :)
Saves you a lot of approval time. I'll use the commands with care.
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive title detected: Where does the exclamation "Fucking Hell" originate? by Weckar E. on english.stackexchange.com
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@SmokeDetector f
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
2:49 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer: How to get all possible image URLs from RSS feed item? by L.Barral on stackoverflow.com (@dorukayhan)
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@ArtOfCode just a note, the backup instance on teward/ESXi2 is HDD based, but it's never online unless I'm doing extended downtime on Aurora (i.e. massive updates that need a lot of time)
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
shrug it does run on HDDs okay, it's just even better on SSD
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
they're high performance server SATAs, though, so i'm not concerned on those
yep
Aurora's faster - SSD + 1Gbps links to the net
ESXi2's the backup in a pinch - high performance 7200 RPMs 2TB HDD drive storage, in an ESXi hypervisor, with a 150Mbps up / 25Mbps down link to the Internet (shared because it's my home network)
(though the VM has only 50GB of disk allotted to it)
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: How to make Muntha chart using vedic astrology? by sri prakash narain on hinduism.stackexchange.com
tpu- by Glorfindel
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
3:30 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: To be a piece of the registry, people needed by user71265 on drupal.stackexchange.com
tpu- by teward
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
!!/blacklist-website eincar\.com
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Glorfindel Blacklisted eincar\.com on master - you may need to merge to deploy.
CI on c636a3e succeeded. Message contains 'autopull', pulling...
Restart: API quota is 4951.
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@SmokeDetector great, I already wondered what the next step would be :)
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
4:05 PM
@Glorfindel when you have code privs it has autopull after the CI succeeds, which prompts MetaSmoke to push to the Deploy branch
which in turn gets pulled in :)
 
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
Yeah, I was wondering if I needed to do a !!/pull or something.
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@Glorfindel nah, when you have code privs the commitmsg comes with --autopull
when we manually merge it's a different 'latest commit' msg
 
Undo
Undo
4:25 PM
So what happened last night?
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@Undo Define last night ...
 
Undo
Undo
"when I was sleeping and my inbox blew up"
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
So, basically, two hours ago?
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@Undo Are you referring to the "moderation issue"?
 
Undo
Undo
Aye
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
4:31 PM
@Undo It's all top secret and hush hush.
3 hours ago, by ArtOfCode
Okey doke, let's see how close I can skirt the lines. TL;DR: Mark's privileges were removed because of a serious moderation issue elsewhere on Stack Exchange. There's not much I can share without violating some agreement or other, so in the spirit of suspension messages: "This user's privileges were revoked for rule violations". This doesn't and won't affect anyone else.
 
Undo
Undo
blah, not used to dealing with these things in public rooms. Okay then.
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
A guy whose privs have been revoked and he was begging to have them back.
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
That's all us non mods know
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
Isn't there a trace in MS?
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@JanDvorak "elsewhere on Stack Exchange"
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
4:32 PM
oh.
Now I'm even more curious.
 
DavidPostill
DavidPostill
@JanDvorak We all are, of course ;p
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
naa- by Glorfindel
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@Undo I'll give you data if you really need it, but you'll need a private room. Or I can send you a link.
you were poked as a courtesy :P
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
@Undo I pinged you on the important bit in TL, I think. You've also got an email in your inbox.
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@Undo TL has a full record of the discuss though
brb, food time
 
Undo
Undo
4:44 PM
yeah, saw it
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@Undo all handled now, though
@JanDvorak he was begging to have them back?
when the heck did I miss this?
 
Jan Dvorak
Jan Dvorak
Wasn't he?
I meant, asking to have them back
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
ah, I was busy and missed it okay
@ArtOfCode all good now?
 
Undo
Undo
@ArtOfCode email headed for your inbox in about ten minutes.
 
ArtOfCode
ArtOfCode
cool
 
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