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7:00 PM
@aediaλ Oh that's nice. I don't talk to my mom much anymore.
Oh my lord.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 omg I am a genius.
 
My project lead is telling his colleague Janet that she should watch Rocky Horror Picture Show.
 
shouldn't everyone watch RHPS?
 
It's just really inappropriate for this skeezeball to be discussing it with his colleague.
 
@JSBᾶngs I remember my first time. I was only partially deflowered.
 
7:07 PM
@Metaed i have very hazy memories of my first time. like you, i don't think i actually sat all the way through
 
"Hey Janet, have you ever seen 'Janet Blows B'? You really should. Everyone should see that."
"It's a great film."
He is not just talking about it. He's being all suggestive in his tone.
Ick.
 
@Kitḫ ok, that is ick
 
@Kitḫ When I went to college I started emailing with my mom and that helped... things have gotten better over the years as they've to some extent accepted that I'm an adult and not coming back to the nest ;) and also with the advent of smartphones so I can write back frequently even if it's briefly composed on the bus.
 
It's hard to express. It doesn't really sound inappropriate, but he's obviously suggesting that he is equating her with Janet in the movie.
 
That's what I thought you were saying.
 
7:10 PM
@aediaλ Well, probably your mom loves you and cares about you.
That helps too.
 
@Kitḫ But then only he knows what he is saying, because she hasn't seen it. Weird.
 
Hey, @aedia, have you ever seen Bound? Because you remind me of Jennifer Tilly.
 
@Kitḫ I'm sure she does, she just has weirdly obsessive ways of showing it sometimes...
I love Bound!
Hey my voice isn't quite that high.
 
See? See how inappropriate that is?
Well, I mean if we were working together.
 
Well coming from you I didn't um... oh. Yeah.
That's not a workplace appropriate movie.
 
7:12 PM
And you thought I was...right. Uh.
 
For most workplaces, anyhow.
 
Of course, if we worked together, you wouldn't think it was inappropriate to discuss that movie with you.
Because we would totally be work buds!
 
Yay!
 
@JSBᾶngs I sat all the way through what was shown. Some jerk threw a roll of toilet paper at the screen, which parted in the middle. At this point the projectionist threw everybody out.
 
@aediaλ But I would certainly think about doing inappropriate things with you in my office.
 
7:14 PM
Nov 17 '11 at 1:43, by Jasper Loy
@Kitḫ No flirting in chat!
 
No doing inappropriate things with him in your office in this chat.
Um, jinx.
 
1. Be inappropriate in chat.
2. ???
3. profit
 
22 hours ago, by JSBᾶngs
@aediaλ pink unicorns are exempt
 
It's all part of my master plan.
 
Apr 13 '11 at 15:02, by RegDwight
My criteria are unclear and flexible.
 
7:16 PM
I used to have unclear and flexible criteria, then I took an arrow to the knee.
 
Oh. I loved that movie.
 
What happened then?
 
Then I had to go back to writing my implementation plan.
 
I'm asking MetaEd.
About his love.
 
Oh.
 
7:17 PM
Yeah.
 
Sep 6 '11 at 1:44, by Cerberus
This is too confusing for me.
 
Apr 13 '11 at 15:05, by RegDwight
You know your accent is way off when "Rosemary" rhymes with "Rosebud".
Things I never knew I said.
 
Oif.
 
7:21 PM
I love Simon Pegg.
 
I have a Mii that looks like Shawn of the Dead.
 
Cannot...resist...
 
resisted
 
7:23 PM
You succeed in a competitive business environment, Matt.
Sorry, excel.
Excel, not succeed.
 
Wait, what was that policy about wanking in the office? I think I may have just violated it.
 
Feb 18 '11 at 17:59, by RegDwight
Expect this to be quoted.
 
Well that is less than satisfactory.
 
the policy? what does it say?
 
Apr 13 '11 at 15:12, by Robusto
5 hours ago, by Robusto
Apr 13 '11 at 15:11, by Robusto
@RegDwight: Did you watch the Simon Pegg video yet?
 
7:29 PM
@Robusto Well guess where I have it from.
 
youtube?
 
@Robusto And I am happy to report that today I did.
 
@MattЭллен Not that. My notes aren't complete. My plan is a bit holey.
 
@Kitḫ ah. got a way to fill the holes?
 
7:31 PM
No double-entendres in this chat.
 
May 12 '11 at 12:57, by Robusto
But you definitely are a master of the single-entendre.
 
Thanks to @Cerb for reminding me about Mr. Show.
 
Mr. Show?
I only know Ms. Vaudeville.
 
The Lawyer interview above is Mr. Show.
Oh.
 
7:44 PM
Mr. Show is/was awesome.
Seriously funny.
 
I have it all on DVD and hadn't watched it in ages until last night.
 
Better than funnily serious.
 
Cerb said something that reminded me.
 
He should say that something to himself more often.
 
And since I got Pi instead of the second disc of Doctor Who Sex in the City? I dunno, something girly. season six, I think I will be watching a lot of Mr. Show for a while.
 
7:45 PM
@Kitḫ Mmmmmm ... Pi ...
 
@Kitḫ they put the wrong dvd in a box set?
like, not even related?
 
Pi is a really interesting film, btw. You should watch it.
 
I have, several times :)
 
@MattЭллен No, They send the discs separately. I thought I had the next one in line, but turns out, it wasn't.
 
7:47 PM
@Robusto I know. That's why it was in my queue it the first place.
 
New war @Rob @Kit
 
OK.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Nice timing. Just as I have to go into a meeting.
 
Thank you. I try my best.
 
And I've got to uh, implement some things.
Well, now, there's an auspicious start.
Ah! What is this miasma of incandescent plasma that is making my screen so hard to read?
 
7:59 PM
you been scooping gas from the sun, again?
 
35 mins ago, by Kitḫ
Wait, what was that policy about wanking in the office? I think I may have just violated it.
 
Haha
Damn I like the way my breasts look in this sweater though.
 
@Kitḫ looks contrite, licks screen tentatively
 
8:20 PM
@aediaλ Oh noes! nau u r smuging it!
 
@aediaλ I can't believe you would touch a computer screen with a body part!
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I have to wipe 'em down neurotically regularly from all the other people who think it's okay to use 'em as a napkin, so they're probably pretty clean...
 
I touch my screen all the time. I really do.
Fingerprints everywhere.
 
I have a cow-orker who likes to touch my screen to point at stuff. I have to refrain from stabbing him.
 
+1 for "cow-orker"
 
8:29 PM
it was intentional :)
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yes, they always say "let me come show you on your computer, it'll be quick" right before they jab an open pen in the direction of your most recently cleaned monitor
 
@aediaλ In this case, he'll ask me if I can pull up a report so he can ask me why the numbers are the way they are; the report will have only one row in it, but he has to touch that row with his greasy fingers before he can tell me about it. It's like a frickin' ritual. Or maybe he's hoping to massage the numbers. I dunno.
 
@Kitḫ I grudgingly accept that my touchscreen devices get fingerprints on them, but I still wipe off my phone with a cleaning cloth rather frequently...
 
grins deviously Oh for the opportunity to work with either of you...
 
hehehe
 
8:34 PM
 
You might be happy to know that my keyboard is probably full of crumbs and I don't care about that. I guess it's how I compensate for being neurotic about the monitors.
Curses, @MrShinyandNew, I just had to clean my glasses to decide if this spot on my monitor was real, and it is, and it isn't going anywhere. Grr.
 
@aediaλ I try not to think about my glasses, because once I discover that they're filthy then I can't not notice it. It's like quantum dirt: they're both dirty and not dirty at the same time, until I check and the dirt-form collapses (it always collapses to "dirty")
3
 
FFFFFUUUUUUU!!!!!
furiously rubs glasses
 
always looking a filth, eh, @MrShinyandNew?
 
Hahahaha.
licks @Kit's glasses
 
8:39 PM
not looking! I'm not looking! do not think about glasses do not think about glasses do not think about glasses
 
I don't know about you, but it is unbelievable to me how many people think it is fine to paw someone's glasses.
 
What?!
that's totally not ok.
 
I mean, you'd think it was rude if I went up to some guy and said, "Hey, let me see your wheelchair a minute!"
 
@Kitḫ it would be unbelievable to me too... I don't know anyone, other than small children, who think that's ok
 
yeah, babies are forgiven
 
8:40 PM
Oh right. You live in Canada, the land of happiness and ethics.
 
@Kitḫ It's sort of actually easier to clean my glasses than my monitor, so I don't mind that much when they get dirty... oh, that's what you mean. Yeah I hate that.
 
@Kitḫ well, I don't know every Canadian.
 
The stereotype is enough.
 
But I don't recall anyone ever asking me to see my glasses.
 
Hmm. Maybe it's some sort of covert flirtation.
 
8:42 PM
People always want to see mine.
 
unless a bunch of glasses-wearers were all standing around comparing glasses and prescriptions and whatnot. Then everyone wants to try everyone else's lenses to see who's blinder.
 
Especially once I mention that they are fake.
 
Me! Me! I'm the blindest!
@RegDwightѬſ道 You wear fake glasses? You faker!
 
And by "I" I mean some moron who already happens to know.
@Kitḫ They make me look all smart.
 
Mine don't even magnify or focus, they're prisms, they correct double vision
 
8:43 PM
I don't remember people doing it recently to me but other kids would always want to, when I was in high school especially, and I thought it was rude then. They would want to try 'em on.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Do you walk around with a cane you don't need too?
 
@Kitḫ it's a walking stick
 
Do you not???????
??????????????
??
 
Hey, I need mine.
 
it goes with his monocle and top hat
 
8:44 PM
Faker.
 
Jealous much?
 
It's not fair. You can just be not blind whenever you feel like it.
 
Ayup.
Life is a bitch, and then you die.
 
Looking smart hardly makes up for not being able to see.
 
I kind of like how everything is soft and fuzzy at the edges, though.
 
8:45 PM
@Kitḫ Well, you are able to see as long as you are looking smart.
 
And in the mornings.
 
I don't want to talk about it.
 
No plagiarizing Rod Stewart in this chat.
 
my wife once broke her glasses and had to walk to the optometrist; she was so blind she couldn't recognize faces without her glasses. Then she got laser surgery and now her vision is almost 20/20
 
OMG Reg, you're essentially enforcing SOPA
 
8:48 PM
in the meantime my double vision worsened to the point that I did something about it, so that now I am the glasses-wearer.
 
I was plagiarizing Cake, actually.
 
@MattЭллен I am enforcing a lot of things when the day is long.
@Kitḫ That video is not available in countries without SOAP.
 
Grr.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I am so paranoid about that. Once when I broke my glasses I was barely able to use my old pair to do schoolwork (at the time I didn't even have contacts I could wear) until I could replace them... now I leave myself a pair of contacts at work just in case. Probably overkill, but man. I think I could get home on public transit without glasses... maybe.
 
This one?
@aediaλ OMG. I hadn't even thought of that.
 
8:55 PM
@Kitḫ Uhoh. Sorry. I am like... I worry about things that probably will never happen and insist on being prepared for them anyway. I didn't mean to spawn new fears in you!
 
But you're right! How would I get home?
I don't even remember where my spares are!
I certainly couldn't drive without my glasses. I probably couldn't even find my way out of my office.
 
@Kitḫ Nope. Again, just not enough SOAP in this country. Sorry!
I guess we could get us some PAIP if we tried real hard, but SOAP just isn't an option.
 
I don't want to think about it
I don't want to talk about it
When I kiss your lips
I want to sink down to the bottom
Of the sea
 
@Kitḫ Oh I know the song very well, no need to quote.
 
You know Cake. Just hum it in your head.
 
8:57 PM
I have the album somewhere.
 
I know you do. We have that in common.
What is PAIP, anyway?
 
@Kitḫ I got contacts this past year because my eye coverage would subsidize either glasses or contacts and I didn't need new glasses yet. I used to have contacts but never wore them except for some special occasions, swimming, exercise, etc. so I got a limited amount of single-day use ones that I like. (I pretty much never wear 'em to work because who can open their eyes that early in the morning to shove a piece of plastic in there?)
 
@Kitḫ PAIP is to PIPA what SOAP is to SOPA.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 squints Oh.
 
@Kitḫ The Sneate version of SOAP, obviously :P
 
8:59 PM
And Cake always makes me think of Perhaps, and that always makes me think of Coupling, and that always makes me think of how lulz that series was and how it hasn't been running for a decade or so.
 
I think I might sneak out and meet my family at the museum.
 
I only saw it like once, and then it was taken off the air.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Aww.
 
it was a great show
 
That's an understatement.
 
9:00 PM
and now jack davenport is in everyting
well, some things
 
@Kitḫ I am mostly paranoid about the driving bit (I drive to work occasionally, when my husband's schedule leaves me the car).
@Kitḫ Yay museums!
You should come to mine. It's only like, 12 hours or something away.
 
@aediaλ BTW sorry for calling you a "him" earlier today, but I thought Kit was talking at MetaEd there.
 
It's the children's museum. Supa fun!
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 grins no worries, I figured that out!
 
Right after I had posted it Kit started adding grayish arrows.
That's how he rolls.
Knight Rider.
 
9:04 PM
I think you must have me confused with someone else.
I have no affiliation with Knight Industries.
 
Ein Auto, ein Computer, ein Mann.
Ein Mann und sein Auto kämpfen gegen das Unrecht!
 
that's not real talking
 
It's even better in German!
 
and what's with the HAIR, gods I'm glad I barely remember the 80s
 
@Kitḫ Everything is better in German.
 
9:11 PM
Bye all! Talk to you later, if you are about!
 
@Kitḫ Hasta luego!
 
Ack. Ounting.
Today I am hating on the accounting.
 
Has it done something to bother you?
 
Has it done something not to?
 
9:17 PM
well have a good weekend everyone.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Bai! You too!
 
cya @MrShinyandNew :)
 
It seems that flag weight is now an obsolete concept in SE.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 — Why are Germans always fighting against something. Why never for something, the way Americans do?
See? He's fighting for "truth, justice, and the American way." Germans never seem to be fighting for the American way. I mean, come on.
 
@Robusto Because fighting against is easier, and the end result is the same anyway.
It's all about efficiency, you know. With the Germans.
 
9:22 PM
Feb 7 '11 at 15:29, by Robusto
In heaven, the cooks are French, the engineers are German, and the police are English. In hell, the cooks are English, the engineers are French, and the police are German.
 
Yeah and I still don't buy the bit about German police.
Them's the awesomest police ever.
I will pick them over any other police any time.
 
Then for your next arrest, I hope you get a German policeman or policewoman to take you in.
 
See, they won't arrest me to begin with.
 
I never knew Clint Eastwood had a thing for Burgess Meredith. But this dry-humping scene is very informative.
 
9:47 PM
 
@MattЭллен Omg love it!
 
Aww, thanks!
 
Hi everyone!
 
hi @Mahnax!
 
@MattЭллен How are you?
 
9:58 PM
Pretty good, ta. How are you?
 
@Danielδ It will be missed.
 
@aediaλ Inventory valuation. Yrrrck.
 
@MattЭллен I'm great! I just finished a much-easier-than-expected social exam.
 
@Mahnax congrats. glad to hear they went well :)
 
@MattЭллен That was exam 1/3. On monday morning, I have a science exam, then on wednesday, a maths exam. Then I am done!
 
10:00 PM
@Mahnax you feeling good about the other two?
 
@MattЭллен Maths, certainly. I'm aiming for 100% on that one. Science shouldn't be too hard, so probably 90% or more on that one.
 
Excellent. Confidence is useful in exams
 
Math vs. maths. … England and America are two countries separated by a common language …
 
I say maths, even though I am Canadian. It makes more sense.
 
Are we talking confidence of 0.9?
 
10:02 PM
Luckily we spell it correctly
 
I'm going to start saying mathx.
 
Well, 0.9 out of a maximum of 1.
 
How about 0.95?
 
Maybe. That's my goal.
 
this yudkowsky.net/rational/bayes is great. However it is not intuitive (as advertised).
 
10:04 PM
@MattЭллен Nuh uh, yours has something esstra!
 
@aediaλ no way! you're just missing out.
 
@aedia MathematicS -> math?
Where did the s go?
 
Well I don't go around saying chemy or techy or engh or anything either...
 
I wasn't brought up shortening those words, so I can't draw a comparison
 
Not even chemistry?
 
10:08 PM
"Chem" is not a word.
Whereas "math" is.
 
It's as much a word as math!
 
Nuh-uh!
 
Yuh huh!
 
@aediaλ Not normally
 
It's short for chemistry or chemical. That doesn't make it not a word
 
I don't think I've ever said it. Possibly others have, but I don't recall
 
However, I'm like, totes interested to hear that @matt's side of the pond doesn't seem to shorten it as much
 
cringes
 
giggles
 
10:11 PM
Please never do that again.
 
kthxbai
 
That's like totes a word too btw
 
AUUUGH
Heh.
 
10:13 PM
Granted, I only hear native speakers actually say "totes" for the effect it has on listeners, but I have heard it.
 
My mother knew someone who actually spoke like that.
 
Like OMG! that's totes the only way, like people should be speaking, like totes all the time
 
Never.
 
like, I know, right? totes
@aediaλ It could be more prevalent at university, here, to say "chem", I don't think I knew any chemistry students back then. We do say tech a lot, now I think about it.
 
I felt old when the other day I got crammed near some kids in a cafeteria. I was kind of hoping they were interns at the place I was at, but they may have been recent college graduates. They were uptalking up a storm, and they were silly every time I overheard them. "Like, fruit juice, yeah, I know, juice is like so bad for you!" "Yeah I nev-er drink juice." - you should imagine this as just slightly more than I use "like", so it was noticeable to me :P
 
10:21 PM
You aren't old, though.
 
@aediaλ agh. up-talking drives me bonkers. NOT A QUESTION! STOP IT!
 
Then five minutes later they would be on to discussing how PBR and Miller Lite were viable options for purchase when trying to not run up the bar tab, and in my head I'm thinking, what? Y'all won't drink orange juice but you'll drink seriously the worst possible beers you can purchase, in a town where we have tons of VA and DE and MD microbrews or anything else you want if you want to be a beer snob? I wanted to shake them...
 
plus, they will die of scurvy
 
I heard a very small child swear at another small child today. I wanted to spray soap in his mouth.
@MattЭллен Nah, the cool thing now is willow bark tea.
 
@MattЭллен I'm sure I do it and I only notice because they did it just that little bit more. Also, because I was stuck cramming food in my gullet alone, listening to them jabber.
 
10:26 PM
Well, I'm off. Bye all.
 
@Mahnax Have a good weekend!
 
cya @Mahnax. good studying!
@aediaλ I notice when I do it, I think. When I notice I cringe at myself
but then I'm English, and it's just not done
It's OK if you're Australian or whatever. But not from the Queens own England
 
I wish they wouldn't use HRT as the abbreviation for "high rising terminal" on teh wikis. It confuses my poor tired brain every time and I think it's hormone replacement therapy.
 
Hey all. I could use a quick hand with some phrase choice, if you don't mind.
 
Ask away @Iszi
 
10:33 PM
I'm writing up an audit report. There's one control that I'm making a finding against, which essentially is an umbrella control that says "everything here is wrong". Then, I've got to enumerate findings against the other controls. How can I properly express the relationship between the umbrella control and the rest? Right now, my draft has "Many of the other findings in this report are components of this finding" but that doesn't quite "feel" right.
 
what feels wrong about it?
 
I'm not quite sure. The umbrella finding is effectively "your real-world implementation does not match your documentation", and the other findings specifically cover pieces of the documentation (or real world implementation) that aren't right. For some reason, the nouns I've used in the draft sentence just don't seem quite right. Or, there may be something missing that's just not making the sentence feel like it properly expresses the situation.
 
The sentence is grammatical, and it makes sense given the context. I think I would have trouble trying to more clearly express that idea too, but perhaps you can tell us what makes the other findings components? Or, explain that the umbrella thing is a summary, rather than expressing the relationship the other way?
 
a finding is something one finds, i.e. concludes. A control is something used to control something else. So, "Your main conclusion is made up of many other conclusions in this report". Does that express anything like what you mean?
 
@aediaλ The way our documentation works, is that we write Implementation Details to match the requirements of certain Controls. One Control is essentially a self-reference, saying "you will create and maintain accurate documentation, describing how you do things". The rest of the controls are the "things you need to do", which the first Control requires to be documented.
 
10:41 PM
An example of talking about the one finding of the summary is that I might write in that one place, "The findings summarized in this item are explained in more detail in parts 3, 7, and 9." or "See items 3, 7, and 9 for more detailed explanation related to these controls."
Hmm.
 
Usually, we just write findings against the lower Controls. In this case though, there's enough of those that I want to call attention to the higher one as well.
 
@Iszi I would probably conclude my writeup for the first Control by saying that, then. I would summarize the general problems and then say something like "This item requires all of the following controls to be documented. Please see the findings under each individual control for problems that are specific to that control." Or, if it is really only certain items, I would list out their numbers or names, rather than saying "all of the following".
 
@aediaλ Thanks. I think that helped clear me up a bit.
 
I'm not sure I completely understand the structure of your document, but I hope that gives you some ideas.
 
11:02 PM
An amusing note: While writing up another finding, the term "anecdotal evidence" came to mind. If something is anecdotal, is it really evidence? That's kind of like someone being subjectively objective, isn't it?
 
@MattЭллен What... who is this guy?
 
@aediaλ Ricky Gervais had a radio show. This guy was involved as something or other and they found out how ignorant he was one day. Karl Pilkington. He's got a TV show now!
 
11:18 PM
Although, the idea that stuff we build could affect the planet isn't entirely completely stupid. Not that long ago my husband told me he read on the interwebs that Three Gorges Dam changed the earth's orbit and number of leap seconds by just a little bit when it filled up, and I was like no wai! and he was like yes wai! and we googled, and I was still very skeptical when it all kept coming back to the same press release...
...and then we looked up what NASA actually said that was in the press release, and it was all like well duh it changed things that much but that's nothing compared to natural earthquakes and stuff so don't worry.
 
@Iszi anecdotal evidence is reporting of something without having any physical evidence to back it up - hearsay is another word for it. I suppose it is subjectively objective, since you have to trust the person to believe them.
@aediaλ very true. but the planet doesn't get any heavier :D
 
Then there's the senator that was worried about a bunch of island inhabitants moving to one side of the island and tipping it over.
 
Hey but what about meteorites?
We just need to build with meteorites.
 
YES!
you've solved everything
 
Maybe we could make a giant magnet to suck in more meteorites and stuff after they start getting scarce.
 
11:22 PM
Ah, here we are.
 
@aediaλ in space it could be super conducting!
 
and no one would hear it scream!
I mean, us. After we get so heavy that we monumentally screw up our orbit and fly into the sun.
But that'll be later.
 
and it would scream. when you see what's up there, you can't help youreself
 
Well, I'm heading off for my weekend now. Thanks for your help, guys!
 
Have a good weekend @Iszi
 
11:28 PM
@Iszi Bye! Enjoy!
 
I have scolded Wells Fargo.
 
Well done
 
I thought it was.
 
Did you tell them to count your ants properly next time?
 
My ants?
Let's see ... there's Ant Liz ...
Sadly I must head out. /gʊd naɪt/!
 
11:38 PM
@MetaEd /si ju/ :)
@MetaEd By the way, I don't know if I remembered to tell you about ipa.typeit.org. It's helpful for fetching symbols that probably aren't on your keyboard.
 
cya @MetaEd
I'ma go to bed. night!
 
@MattЭллен Bai!
 
@MattЭллен Ooooh I like it! And it's 3D! See? It shows that justice comes in the end.
 

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