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4:00 PM
@Kitḫ Yay!
 
Ack. Meeting. Laterz!
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 But almost zero more, since you don't know why people clicked the verb they clicked.
 
cya @kit
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 You don't know that if there's only one button, either. So that point is irrelevant. It always applies.
 
Anwyay, this is why google's "like" button is "+1". It's more meaningless in order to satisfy people like you who aren't sure if they should "like" an article about child-rape.
@RegDwightѬſ道 Except in cases where there is no confusion about what people might mean if they "like" it.
 
4:01 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 You'd be surprised.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 I'm NOT surprised, because I use facebook and thus have experience with the subject matter at hand :p
 
Look, I've been on Reddit since its early days. Let me tell you, there are OVER 9000 reasons why people would click the up arrow, the equivalent of "Like".
For starters, it could be the author of the article.
 
that's why I do it!
because I wrote it
 
Exactly.
 
user19161
@RegDwightѬſ道 If the author is Reg then click like.
 
4:03 PM
On Facebook "liking" is not anonymous, so....
 
And the next step is to go around downvoting everyone else.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Ah! See, now we are talking.
How about next time you start with the crucial bit of information rather than withholding it till the very end?
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 You could just log into facebook and see for yourself
 
user19161
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Liking there means you like someone's face, that's why it's called facebook.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 And why would I do that?
 
It's not my job to explain to you how the modern internet works.
 
4:04 PM
Well duh.
 
"Like" it or not, Facebook is part of the modern internet.
 
So is the hadron collider. Does that mean nobody may ever ask about how that thing works? Just go see for yourself, geeeeez.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 that's what they should say!
it's big enough to fit everyone in, right?
 
If you don't want to explain stuff to me, that's fine. But again, that's a crucial bit of information you should state at the very beginning of the discussion.
 
well, I hadn't realised you didn't realise it's not anonymous
so, sorry
 
user19161
He shows his face.
 
user19161
But he is still on Mars.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Look, if you want to start making arguments based on incomplete knowledge, that's your prerogative. Just don't expect me to teach you everything I know before I smack you down.
 
I never started an argument.
I asked a honest question about something I didn't know anything about.
 
user19161
@RegDwightѬſ道 an honest
 
4:11 PM
Nope. "A honest".
 
a nonest
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 I didn't say you started "an argument", I said you "made" an argument, i.e. you stated a position
 
Well that I did.
 
user19161
How come I could not use sudo gedit to edit config files on one system in the past but now can on another system so that I need not use sudo nano? Is there some config for this behaviour?
 
You expected me not to?
If I didn't have a position, I wouldn't have had a question.
 
4:13 PM
ah, but we would know your momentum
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 You shouldn't have formed your position until you asked all the questions :)
 
user19161
@MattЭллен Your browser is rendering wrongly then, or you need to check your eyes.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 that doesn't even make sense.
Surely I must have some sort of starting position.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Well, you have to hold it as "tentative" until you get all the facts.
 
4:15 PM
And tentative it was until I got all the facts.
Which you only cared to provide at the very end.
As long as you didn't provide all the facts, why would I change my position?
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Next time, state your assumptions up front and we'll correct them
 
Well that's what I did.
 
No, you never stated that you assumed it was anonymous
 
27 mins ago, by RegDwight Ѭſ道
I never visit, so I have no idea.
 
wow, that horse isn't dead yet? still beating it, eh?
 
4:16 PM
@MattЭллен Oh, it's dead. Don't mean we can't keep beating it.
 
@MattЭллен Hey just because you don't wanna have fun...
 
I suppose :D
 
Jinx, I guess.
 
user19161
The discussions in this room are becoming quite silly.
 
user19161
Which is good.
 
4:18 PM
Well what do you expect.
If I say "I don't have a clue cause I never visit" and people actually reply with "well duh, go visit"...
We should handle all questions on the main site that way.
 
:D
that would be brillant
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 but you SHOULD visit. join usssssssssssssssssssssssss
 
"Which preposition should I use here?" "The correct one, you moron!"
 
Best served in a Mr Tourette template.
 
4:20 PM
Well, it's like when I talk to people about how to improve my chinese, they say "go to china and talk to chinese people"
 
user19161
Just don't talk to me to improve Chinese, my Chinese is quite bad.
 
We are on to something here.
 
@WillHunting you're not in China
 
@WillHunting Just start talking better Chinese.
 
user19161
4:21 PM
Then again I guess it may do some good. So, YMMV.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 maybe we should close all questions that don't have "yes" or "no" answers as general ref, and the rest as not constructive
 
@MattЭллен don't we already do that?
 
@WillHunting My mileage never varies. It is always exactly equivalent to my mileage. It's only other people that always insist on marching to a different drummer.
 
almost, but we could be stricter
 
user19161
@RegDwightѬſ道 Just like everyone's foot is a foot long.
 
4:23 PM
@Robusto's isn't.
He mentioned the other day that he had to fold his in half to match mine.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Stop bothering me with your jealous brooding.
 
It's like in that math riddle about a brick weighing 1 kilo plus 1/2 of a brick.
@Robusto You misspelled "continue".
 
you misspelled "missed out"
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 Well, at least I diagnosed your unhappiness correctly.
 
You misspelled "happiness", "incorrectly".
Your litotae's are all over the place, all in wrong places.
 
4:27 PM
Jan 13 at 22:47, by MetaEd
Romanes eunt domus!
 
98 more times.
 
Jan 13 at 22:47, by RegDwight Ѭſ道
Mar 7 '11 at 13:18, by Robusto
Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum! Romani ite domum!
 
Domus is Turkish for "pig". That can't be right.
@MetaEd No plagiarism in this chat.
Recursive plagiarism even less so.
 
@RegDwightѬſ道 you misspelled "lots of"
 
@MattЭллен No lots of what in this chat?
You know, you could start making sense at least grammatically.
 
4:29 PM
Hey, there are no rules
 
The king rules.
He just doesn't govern.
 
long live the king!
 
Apr 7 '11 at 15:17, by RegDwight
The King rocks but he doesn't roll.
 
26 secs ago, by MetaEd
Nov 24 '11 at 13:16, by Matt Эллен
quoting isn't plagiarism
 
57 secs ago, by Matt Эллен
sweet!
 
user19161
4:30 PM
I think non-governing positions should be abolished worldwide, no need for useless kings or presidents.
 
Yeah right. Or nurses.
Or bus drivers.
 
True. Who needs useless nurses? Or useless bus drivers?
 
For real. Useful nurses and useful bus drivers are just so much better!
 
1 min ago, by Matt Эллен
57 secs ago, by Matt Эллен
sweet!
 
I need useless people to make me look good in my mediocrity
 
4:33 PM
@RegDwightѬſ道 But, as the queen often discovers, a ruler isn't always twelve inches long.
Which brings us back to Beavis & Butthead.
 
@MetaEd You misspelled "Home, AL".
@Robusto Huhuh, you said "back", huhuh.
Commute. Laters.
 
I did it for love.
 
And for the kittens.
 
4:50 PM
Holla.
Now I'm off to lunch. Later!
 
wow, late lunch for you, @Kit
 
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Q: When to drop the 'e' when ending in -able?

PureferretI've seen a thread that generally asks about Creating words with “-able” suffix But I don't think it answers my point, though they are admittedly dangerously close topics. When do you drop the 'e' when forming words suffixed with -able. My Spell checker likes Unforgivable but dislikes Forgivable...

^ this originally had . what on earth makes people think that this question is about grammar, but then overlook spelling?
 
@JSBᾶngs Stupidity.
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Well, I had a meeting. I am really hungry though.
 
@Reg pleez can we kill with fire?
 
I am waiting for a friend.
 
4:58 PM
> The willow knows what the storm does not: that the power to endure harm outlives the power to inflict it.
that's a pretty profound thing to be written on a magic card
 
@JSBᾶngs tell that to all the trees that get uprooted, blown over, struck by lightning, etc despite their "defenses"
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 those aren't usually willows
plus, stop ruining my wa, dude
 
5:18 PM
y u quoting me
 
because those are things you supposedly don't say
What do you call the gut-feeling a detective gets around mid-day?
 
hunger?
 
a lunch hunch
 
5:38 PM
hmm ...
 
yawns I wish a nap.
 
triangles!
timing is everything
 
5:54 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Who told you I didn't say those things?
 
P. Man!
Whom do you sympathize most with?
 
Me?
Sympathize?
 
user19161
@JSBᾶngs Very inspiring.
 
It is like rubbing against people.
 
6:01 PM
 
> This video contains content from UMG. It is not available in your country. Sorry about that.
 
Dec 21 '11 at 14:37, by Kitḫ
Look, @MrShiny, I appreciate your candor, but I have taken the Myers-Briggs test, and "Judgmental" is my only defining characteristic.
 
Sympathy can be based on judgement.
I like Triangle Man.
He's so triangular, and he has three sides too!
 
How about that one?
Triangles are very balanced, but only in a plane. I find it irritating.
I like particle man.
 
user19161
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Q: Pronunciation of "live" in "Ubuntu live CD"

TimI was wondering if the pronunciation of "i" in "live" in "Ubuntu live CD" is similar to "i" in "life" or the same as verb "live"? Does "i" in adjective "live" always pronounce like "i" in "life"? Thanks!

 
user19161
6:04 PM
GR
 
Plus Triangle Man is a big bully, going around fighting everyone else.
 
@Kitḫ I like her! She does well in more aggressive music too: never heard her like that.
@Kitḫ Must you always have complete symmetry?
 
@Cerberus Really? I was putting out the "I won't sympathize anymore" lyric anyway.
 
@Kitḫ But he has THREE angles!
 
@Cerberus I'm neurotic. I know it. I embrace it.
 
6:06 PM
Putting out?
 
but equilateral triangles are symmetrical everywhere!
 
@Kitḫ Endearing.
@MattЭллен What>
 
waves hands Whatever thingy. Trying to say that with a song lyric in order to be clever.
 
@Cerberus I don't know. Must make dinner
 
Ehh I'm slow, too tired to get things.
@MattЭллен OK!
 
6:08 PM
Tyger, Tyger ...
 
Do you know this one?
This is what it's like to have kids.
 
Sigh. I am just much too dry.
 
@Kitḫ I know the "it's oh, so quiet" part from long ago. She is so cute.
 
@Cerberus Isn't she though?
 
But I hope you're not having that many rows?
@MetaEd beer
 
6:14 PM
ty. Is beer good for a dry sense of humor?
A very dry sense of humor?
 
It enhances it.
 
@Cerberus I meant that it is really quiet, and then BWAAHH! BABY CRYING!
 
Extra dry, even.
@Kitḫ Heh, ah, OK.
 
SERE sense of humor?
 
Quoi?
 
6:16 PM
Extra dry? How about brut sense of humor? Or would that be brutal?
 
I'd have sexual relations with Björk. I wonder if she's into girls?
 
Bubbly but unsweet?
I thought we dealt with sexual relations yesterday.
 
Just brutal, as in laughing about dead people.
@Kitḫ Alas, you can't look it up!
Unless you read German.
 
@MetaEd Did we? I think I would have remembered that.
@Cerberus Yes, you can. Instructions are provided.
 
You can have sexual relations with Björk, but you can't f——k Björk. That would be just too funny.
 
6:17 PM
Björk Guðmundsdóttir (Reykjavik, 21 november 1965) is een IJslands zangeres en songwriter. Björk is de voormalige leadzangeres van de alternatieve-rockband The Sugarcubes en heeft sinds 1993 een solocarrière onder de naam Björk. Björk staat bekend om haar interesse in een grote verscheidenheid aan muziekgenres, waaronder pop, jazz, alternatieve rock, elektronische en klassieke muziek. Haar muzieklabel One Little Indian deelde in 2003 mee dat Björk wereldwijd meer dan 15 miljoen albums heeft verkocht. Björk heeft in het verleden ook enkele keren als actrice in films gewerkt, zo vervulde...
 
@Kitḫ You may have missed the meeting. Clinton, er, ah, came up.
 
@MetaEd Did we determine that yesterday?
 
@Kitḫ I know.
So she has a boyfriend.
 
OMG. She's...she's... old.
@Cerberus So? That doesn't mean anything.
 
Wow, yes, it just caught my eye too.
@Kitḫ It means what it means.
 
6:19 PM
"Personally, I think choosing between men and women is like choosing between cake and ice cream. You'd be daft not to try both when there are so many different flavors." —Björk
 
What that is I cannot say.
 
Hey. Who are you calling old.
So. I'm three years older than that old woman Björk.
Pfeh.
 
I would call the baby Jesus old if it turned out he was ten when he was still lying in his cradle.
 
@MetaEd I was just getting to that!
 
By the way, how come my power meter says 50w while I have my microwave set to 300w?
 
6:23 PM
shrugs
It's not working at maximum?
 
@MetaEd I don't know. What if you just don't care for one or the other?
 
@MetaEd I've had sexual relations with people older than you.
 
@Kitḫ Maximum is 900, I set it to 300.
 
@Cerberus You flibbergeimeister is hobbled by the whackadoodlewhazit.
 
Huh but I checked that.
Thirteen times.
 
6:25 PM
Try turning it up to 600w and see if it measures correctly.
 
@Kitḫ That's a lovely thing you do for the aged.
 
No, it's a lovely thing they did for me.
 
@Kitḫ I'll give you that one!
 
@Kitḫ Yeah I'll try that.
 
6:28 PM
I's still hovering around 40/50w. But It has recorded a peak of 1500w. Odd.
@MetaEd Hmm yes, it could be measured like that.
I just think the watt meter is unreliable, because 90 % lower than the normal value is impossible.
It heats up fine.
 
@Cerberus yeah, sometimes I say things that are amazing like "there's no such thing as bugless software", other times I say things that even I don't get, like "But equilateral triangles are symmetrical everywhere!" Even god itself doesn't get it, it's like "Commmon matt, grow some sensticles"
 
And it has recorded a few cents' worth of of used power.
 
What power meter are you using.
 
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Q: When to drop the 'e' when ending in -able?

PureferretI've seen a thread that generally asks about Creating words with “-able” suffix But I don't think it answers my point, though they are admittedly dangerously close topics. When do you drop the 'e' when forming words suffixed with -able. My Spell checker likes Unforgivable but dislikes Forgivable...

Not again.
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A: Adjective form of "collide"—"collideable" or "collidable"?

ShreevatsaRShort answer: There's no clear choice; take your pick. Long answer: Neither collideable nor collidable is a word you're likely to find in a dictionary, but in your context using it (one of them) may be exactly the right choice. As for the spelling preference, Wikipedia's detailed article on Amer...

 
@MattЭллен Oh! "But" helps.
@MetaEd The brand is Cresta, I think.
Energy use over some time is accurately measured.
 
6:31 PM
@MattЭллен Um, what? Are you OK?
 
@Kitḫ yah :D
 
:D
What am I doing?
 
I say collidable.
You say potahto.
 
@Cerberus An owl told me
 
Like this? cresta.nl/…
 
6:36 PM
The Reg flies at night!
@MetaEd Yes! That's it.
 
-1
Q: How to clean up this ambiguous sentence

Joseph SzymborskiI wish to express that art is self-indulgence, and that one shouldn't expect others to care about your art. I need to sum up this idea in a curt phrase suitable for a point in a list. The phrase I've got right now is Art is self-indulgence; don't expect others to care about yours. or Ar...

No votes to migrate? No votes as too localized?
 
Does the display read W, VA, or kWh?
 
And does it read seven, or eight?
 
I seven the sandbox.
 
6:38 PM
I eight the...oh! You got me.
 
@MetaEd It can display all of that, and more. It has Watt, Watt max, Volt, Ampère, kWh, and cost in €.
 
I know all these jokes for five year olds and I don't have a five year old anymore. :-(
 
> I don't see it as my job to read FAQs of other sites. I only wanted to say that it is better migrated than double-posted. – Martin Scharrer♦
 
I have used it at 300 W for 8 minutes, then 600 W for maybe 5.
 
For some reason, I am not linking properly to comments.
Anyway, I think that's a bit snooty from a mod who thought something ought to be migrated.
 
6:42 PM
So 8/60 * 300 + 5/60 * 600 = 40 + 50 = 90 = 0.09 kWh, agreed?
 
user19161
@Kitḫ I just copy and paste them as text.
 
But the meter says 0.01 kWh / € 0.002.
And that includes boiling a kettle of water twice, say 3.2 litres total.
Hmm.
But it said my break maker used up 8 cents for a bread, which is about what other people report too.
 
Hey, old Bjork videos
 
That was me! I did that!
 
yeah
90's Bjork is really cute
2010's Bjork isn't as cute
 
6:45 PM
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Oh my god yes.
Hey, MrShiny, do you know any good data visualization tools that integrate well with asp.net?
 
@Kitḫ sadly no
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I love the way she says "jokes."
 
user19161
@MrShinyandNew安宇 She doesn't look real.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 She is too!!!
 
300 / 1000 = 0.3 kW. 0.3 × 8/60 = 0.04 kWh.
600 / 1000 = 0.6 kW. 0.6 × 5/60 = 0.05 kWh.
Total, 0.09 kWh.
 
6:50 PM
@Cerberus not AS cute
 
Radiointerference maybe messing with the meter?
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Wow I had no idea she was so ignorant.
 
@Cerberus Maybe your microwave's watt rating doesn't represent its continuous usage
 
Want, want, want that yummy little nugget of cuteness.
 
6:52 PM
@MetaEd Hmm not from the microwave? Surely that doesn't produce any radio waves?
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Could be; but a 10:1 proportion?
 
@Cerberus It depends on what the microwave vendor meant when they let you pick a wattage.
 
How do you mean?
 
Look up microwave and get back to me on that :-)
 
For example, if the max output of the microwave is 900W, and you've dialed it down to "450", what you're really doing is running the microwave at full power for 50% of the time. And that "900W" max output probably does not refer to the electricity consumed.
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 You mean it switches between 900 and 0 every second?
 
6:55 PM
Where the hell is my task list?
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 I think the 900W should be the output; but, if it isn't, then my meter should still register 900.
 
@Cerberus No, I mean it switches between 900 and 0 every few seconds depending on what power level you have it set to
 
@MrShinyandNew安宇 Okay, that's what I meant. But why is that? Is that efficient?
 
"IEC Standard 705-1988 and Amendment 2-1993, “Methods for measuring the performance of microwave ovens for household and similar purposes” (hereafter “IEC Standard 705”). As discussed in detail below, the test procedure consists of heating 1 kilogram (kg) of water in a borosilicate
 
@Cerberus I don't know why. But also remember: the wattage displayed might not have to reflect any particular version of reality; it's a marketing number.
 
6:58 PM
container from about 10 degrees Celsius ( C) below room temperature to room temperature, using the maximum power setting on the microwave oven. The input power over the duration of the test, and thus energy consumed during the test, are compared to the energy absorbed by the test load to obtain the efficiency measurement."
 
What happens when you try to boil water on full power for a couple minutes?
 
The rating is a measurement of the net energy absorbed by the food.
 

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