The Nineteenth Byte

I created a wiki page in my project's GitHub repository, for storing some loose notes and links, and GitHub automatically created a wiki page called "Home", containing the text "Welcome to the [repository] wiki!" There are two problems with that. First, the new "Home" page is completely useless ...

Easterly Irk

Wrong number.

@CoolestVeto ಠ_ಠ

Aqua Tart

@EasterlyIrk hahaha

CoolestVeto

@flawr That doesn't apply anymore. They changed the GitHub layout, you have to hide it with the admin page now.

Easterly Irk

answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110128194930AApsTvX

Apparently lizards can't.

flawr

9:32 PM

@CoolestVeto Why don't you write a new answer to that question?

CoolestVeto

@flawr Because it's answered on Stack Overflow. :P

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Q: Delete GitHub repo's Wiki

I'm new to GitHub. When I clicked a Wiki link a new Wiki was created for my repo. But I don't really need it. If I try to delete its only page, GitHub asks: "Are you sure you want to delete this page?". And I confirm that. And nothing happens, the page is still there. I can't say it's too annoyin...

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Easterly Irk

link to the wiki?

> Vitsy is also occasionally used throughout VTCAKAVSMoACE's school by Computer Science teachers for quick calculations due to it's stack-based nature and simple-to-use polish notation.

Is that really true??? o_O

CoolestVeto

Yup.

Easterly Irk

roflmao

CoolestVeto

I taught my Java teacher basic Vitsy syntax and he uses it more than Java for repeated calculations. :P

El'endia Starman

9:33 PM

Pfft, like CS teachers would ever use anything other than Java and/or Python. :P

Easterly Irk

Steal his soul!

> java

really? Q_Q

El'endia Starman

Absolutely.

Aqua Tart

Except for the crazy Haskell ones

El'endia Starman

It's only recently that Python has been displacing Java as the beginner programming language.

Easterly Irk

Q_q

TimmyD

9:34 PM

My favorite CS teacher quote, from a 200-level class I was in ...

Easterly Irk

@AquaTart aaand lisp.

TimmyD

> How can access be denied? I'm god!

CoolestVeto

O.o

Easterly Irk

q_Q

@TimmyD roflmao

CoolestVeto

SIPS throws access denied stuff for root on Mac OS X now. >.>

Aqua Tart

9:35 PM

pfffft

Easterly Irk

@CoolestVeto Turn it off, I did.

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman My local community college used to use C++, at least when I was there and had a friend studying CS. They still do their data structures class in C++.

Easterly Irk

Q_Q

CoolestVeto

Same. Doesn't mean it's not stupid.

Easterly Irk

I is crying too much, make it stahp

@CoolestVeto Well-meaning, awful for programmers.

But it works for normal people.

El'endia Starman

9:36 PM

The teacher in this comic was literally one of my CS teachers.

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Easterly Irk

Couldn't even install DF with SIP on.

TimmyD

My intro class was in MIPS for one semester, then we went to Java for essentially the rest of the four year program.

El'endia Starman

Not kidding. The guy who drew it went to the same school and has specifically confirmed that the teacher in that comic IS that particular teacher.

Easterly Irk

googles MIPS

@El'endiaStarman oh god

roflmao

GamrCorps

Calling all regexers: What is a regex that matches every space that is not between double quotes? Example: "12 \"test string\" 34".split(regex) -> ["12", "\"test string\"", "34"]

El'endia Starman

9:37 PM

@EasterlyIrk Yup. He was a mushroom. I mean, fun guy.

CoolestVeto

@TimmyD Million Instructions Per Second?

Easterly Irk

winces

Aqua Tart

@El'endiaStarman Jeez, I thought my CS professors were crazy

@EasterlyIrk MIPS assembly is awesome

It's the only flavor of assembly I can tolerate

TimmyD

MIPS instruction set

MIPS (originally an acronym for Microprocessor without Interlocked Pipeline Stages) is a reduced instruction set computer (RISC) instruction set architecture (ISA) developed by MIPS Technologies (formerly MIPS Computer Systems, Inc.). The early MIPS architectures were 32-bit, with 64-bit versions added later. Multiple revisions of the MIPS instruction set exist, including MIPS I, MIPS II, MIPS III, MIPS IV, MIPS V, MIPS32, and MIPS64. The current revisions are MIPS32 (for 32-bit implementations) and MIPS64 (for 64-bit implementations). MIPS32 and MIPS64 define a control register set as well as...

Alex A.

@GamrCorps Can the double quotes be assumed to match?

TimmyD

9:39 PM

> Not to be confused with Millions of instructions per second.

GamrCorps

@AlexA. Yes

El'endia Starman

I did have a class in college where I learned some of MIPS Assembly.

Alex A.

MIPS: Man, I'm Probably Stupid

Easterly Irk

strawpoll.me/7047034

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Q: Hexagon-In or Hexagon-Out?

There is a great story to tell about the hexagon shape of the honeycomb. But this busy bee needs your help in telling him which point is inside or outside his honeypot. So, given a hexagon as pictured below, centered at the origin and with edge size l, determine if a set of coordinates (x,y) are ...

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Easterly Irk

9:41 PM

@AlexA. s/probably/perfectly/

Aqua Tart

@EasterlyIrk far too many to count

Easterly Irk

Then hit 0 for IntOverflow.

Or start counting.

Aqua Tart

I just picked 20 because it's probably about right

Easterly Irk

okau

I has 8.

@AquaTart Like what?

TimmyD

Do languages built into the OS count?

I mean, I installed the OS, so ...

Aqua Tart

9:46 PM

@EasterlyIrk At least 4-5 different JDKs, about 6 different versions of Python, 3 different versions of Ruby, two Haskell compilers, two D compilers, Prolog, Julia, Perl 6, ....

Alex A.

Closed as unclear what you're asking.

Aqua Tart

I could go on for days.

Alex A.

If you like Ruby, gem install pry. Also get the Crystal language. JIT compiled Ruby.

TimmyD

Base install of modern Windows (i.e., 10) at minimum gets you BATCH File (CMD and BAT variations), PowerShell v2-v5, VBScript ...

CoolestVeto

It's the sign of a good golfing lang.

Sherlock9

9:49 PM

Python 3, Ruby, whatever VS counts as though I haven't really used it, and I can't remember the esolangs at this point

Alex A.

translate: vitsy

(from English) vitsy

Bing ain't got time for your shit, purse dog.

Sherlock9

@AlexA. How on earth do you get rubygems to work?

CoolestVeto

@AlexA. Yeah, but everyone hates Bing, so...

Alex A.

@Sherlock9 Uhhhhh I... don't know.

TimmyD

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Sherlock9

9:50 PM

I can't remember the problem I had with it, but wouldn't work with my version of Windows or something and I haven't tried it since

Alex A.

On my Mac gems just seem to... work.

CoolestVeto

@TimmyD This looks fake.

TimmyD

100% legit

CoolestVeto

O.o It is.

Geobits

Pretty simple to verify I'd think.

CoolestVeto

9:51 PM

That is weird, man.

Sherlock9

@AlexA. Fair enough. Maybe I should try it on linux

TimmyD

@CoolestVeto I like Bing. They pay me to search.

Easterly Irk

Alex A.

@Sherlock9 Yeah, I don't really know anything about using Ruby on Windows. :/

Easterly Irk

@CoolestVeto don't watch.

Alex A.

9:52 PM

(Or on Linux, for that matter)

Aqua Tart

@NewMainPosts Could we close this as a dupe of this?

CoolestVeto

@EasterlyIrk ihaichu

Aqua Tart

The former is 2^n, the latter is 2^(n-2)

Sherlock9

@EasterlyIrk Whoops I put in 3 and I just realized I have more than 3

Easterly Irk

@Sherlock9 It's okay.

How many?

Sherlock9

9:54 PM

Tell you what, I'll count them tomorrow afternoon. It's nearly 5 am and I have to get to campus at a reasonable hour tomorrow

Aqua Tart

Oops, this challenge is 2^n - 1. Didn't realize.

Too late to edit

Alex A.

If there's two things I know about Sherlock, it's that he loves browser tabs and has a bizarre sleep schedule. :P

<3

El'endia Starman

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman ಠ_ಠ

Lynn

That strawpoll.me/7047034 poll is really hard to answer.

Sherlock9

9:57 PM

@AlexA. When you're right, you're right :)

Tonight I was watching 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown episodes on Youtube and forgot the time

Lynn

I bet I can count 20

Easterly Irk

@El'endiaStarman Q_Q and ಠ_ಠ

@Lynn I has 8, so?

oh crap 10. oh well

Lynn

Does having a browser count as installing a JavaScript interpreter?

Geobits

@Lynn I have no clue... I've run several KotH and code-challenges though, so I'm guessing it's a lot.

Easterly Irk

No.

But node does.

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Q: ASCII-mation Clock

This code-golf challenge is to capture the time and create an ASCII Clock Example of clock at 12:15: ___________ / | \ | | | | (|)___ | | | \___________/ EST: 12:15 Have input (variable in) accepted (so add code to request input) for the time zone. C...

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Easterly Irk

Clojure, Lisp, Node, Python 2/3, R, Julia, Elixir, Oration, Vimscript, and one more I forgot.

Lynn

Cygwin came with a bunch of interpreters too, that I guess counts as me installing them?

(And compilers)

Alex A.

@EasterlyIrk You had to install Vimscript?

Aqua Tart

@El'endiaStarman I can't stop reading these comics

Thank you for showing me this

Geobits

At the very least I have c/c++, c#(mono), python(2/3), java (6/7/8), perl, ruby, love2d, lua, js, php, qbasic, and scratch. That's just off the top of my head, though, and I'm sure I'm missing some. (also depends on what exactly counts as a language... I'm not even counting esolangs I've tried out)

Lynn

10:03 PM

I get 20 no matter how you bend the rules. ._.

El'endia Starman

@AquaTart :D

Geobits

There's no 20+ answer :/

Lynn

Not counting esolangs is a bit harder!

Quill

monring

Lynn

Isn’t love2d/LÖVE just Lua?

Sherlock9

10:04 PM

@EasterlyIrk Also, does "did you install" mean, any language you have ever installed on my (any) computer (that brings me over 20) or do I have currently installed?

Geobits

@Lynn I wasn't sure whether to separate that one or not, tbh.

It's much fun to play with, though :)

Easterly Irk

@AlexA. I installed vim.

@Sherlock9 I mean't currently.

Alex A.

@EasterlyIrk It should already have been installed on your Mac.

What's what $EDITOR defaults to on Mac.

El'endia Starman

@EasterlyIrk That series was............"interesting".

I thought this was interesting: What Languages Fix. Basically, what do languages try to fix about other languages?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Backwards Turkish.

Alex A.

10:19 PM

@El'endiaStarman Hmmmmmmmm

Interesting indeed

As it turns out, Julia fixes everything about C++, Python, Perl, and Ruby.

Geobits

cough

Alex A.

gets you a throat lozenge

El'endia Starman

Oh, now seems like a good time to re-ask that question I had earlier.

55 mins ago, by El'endia Starman

Should strings be immutable by default and mutable by choice, or mutable by default and immutable by choice?

Sherlock9

f("\/") doesn't work properly for the following Python code for the broken, chunky and smooth squiggles challenge

def f(s):
 for i in range(3):s=s.replace("\_/"[i],str(i))
 a=len(s);t="".join("bscbssbbc"[int(s[i],3)]for i in range(a))
 for i in range(3):print(t.count("scb"[i])/a)

Alex A.

Aug 27 '15 at 18:46, by Alex A.

Would you rather change gender every time you sneeze or not be able to tell the difference between babies and muffins?

El'endia Starman

10:22 PM

@AlexA. That's a question you had.

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman >_>

El'endia Starman

And how/why the heck did you single out that one?

Geobits

@El'endiaStarman I think he's still trying to decide.

El'endia Starman

@Sherlock9 Smooth peanut butter is the best. </irrelevant>

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Alex A.

^

@El'endiaStarman I don't think The Nineteenth Byte supports irrelevant closing tags.

Geobits

10:23 PM

Doesn't it add them automatically?

Alex A.

It adds the opening tag but adding a closing tag is an error

Sherlock9

Never mind. Got it

Quill

The irrelevant tag is right after the doctype declaration

Alex A.

@Geobits ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Geobits

Nothing to see here...

Aqua Tart

10:30 PM

Awh man I missed something

Easterly Irk

10:40 PM

@AlexA. Nope, emacs

Alex A.

Weird

Easterly Irk

@El'endiaStarman yeah, sorta...

Sup @Quill

Quill

Someone should write an 1984 style novel about what would happen if this room had an enforced topic

feature-request?

Easterly Irk

This room shall be free from on-topic chatter! Begone, talk of code golf! (except hating on java)

Alex A.

@Quill Everybody died. The end.

El'endia Starman

10:55 PM

Chihuahua or Muffin?

Alex A.

oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh

I want to pet all the chihuahuas and eat all the muffins

Assuming I can correctly identify them

El'endia Starman

Just make sure you don't mistake one for the other.

Aqua Tart

abandon all topic, ye who enter here

El'endia Starman

Well, one kind of bad choice wouldn't be so bad. The other one though...

Aqua Tart

Yeah, petting muffins by accident sucks.

A and N

10:59 PM

Aqua Tart

Hmm better sandbox a "chihuahua or muffin" test battery challenge

crayzeedude

im here

what the hell did i walk in on

El'endia Starman

@AquaTart I'll bet Mathematica couldn't solve the problem with built-ins!

Digital Trauma

@AquaTart Better than eating a chihuahua

Geobits

Not true.

The only thing bad about eating Chihuahuas is the portion sizes.

Optimizer

11:16 PM

ಠ_ಠ

I think that chihuahua is bigger than any avg. hot dog out there

Digital Trauma

@Zgarb Congrats on 10k!

20

Alex A.

@AandN This one is surprisingly difficult

Quill

Zgarb

@DigitalTrauma Thanks!

crayzeedude

what even is going on

Don Muesli

11:33 PM

@Zgarb Thanks for accepting my answer. But Dennis' Jelly answer has the same byte count and is earlier. Oh, and congrats on 10k!

Zgarb

@DonMuesli Oh, was it? I must have read the edit dates wrong.

Geobits

@Optimizer Sure, but not much meat on the things. I don't eat bones and guts.

Don Muesli

@Zgarb I haven't seen the edits. I mean the original answers. What counts for that: original or edit?

Zgarb

I'm counting the first edit that had the winning byte count.

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Don Muesli

11:43 PM

@Zgarb I see. Then my edit is earlier, yes. Actually, looking at edit date makes more sense than just the original answer. Is there consensus on Meta regarding this?

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