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10:06 AM
@zyabin101 So you want to make a PyPy/LLVM/Parrot-based compiler?
 
Anonymous
@MarsUltor No, he wants to write an interpreter for his language in his language
 
Anonymous
I should probably write a Seriously self-interpreter at some point
 
@Mego There's no point, unless you have a compiler it will run really slowly
BTW, PyPy and LLVM have JIT, not sure about Parrot.
 
Anonymous
@MarsUltor Not necessarily. For example, PyPy is waaaay faster than CPython in most cases, though some of that is due to the JIT.
 
@Mego Yeah, but I mean you need a way to compile the interpreter.
 
Anonymous
10:08 AM
A compiler for Seriously won't be too hard to write, especially after I finish up v2
 
Anonymous
Since it will be able to compile to Python without too much trouble (and Python can be compiled to machine code pretty easily)
 
harpercollinschristian.com/permissions - "we are currently processing requests at an average turnaround time of six to eight weeks" - this sounds oddly familiar
 
10:27 AM
kek
 
1
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

NeilRoman Numeral Line Segments Write a program or function that accepts an integer in the range 1..3999 as input and returns the number of line segments required to express that integer in standard Roman numerals (so you would use XL but not VM). Examples: 1 -> 1 4 -> 3 5 -> 2 9 -> 3 ...

 
11:06 AM
That Ghostbusters reboot has to be a joke. I mean the original had no plot at all, what made it great was the chemistry between the crew members. Now the "chemistry" is just constantly shouting at each other.
 
11:20 AM
they're trying to bank on the nostalgia factor, but unlike Star Wars the movie they'll do will be trash
 
12:02 PM
@AlexA. You're proficient in Julia, but your Stack Overflow profile shows that you're also an avid user of R. Why?
 
> R. Why?
That about sums it up :D
 
Do any of you use a script that shows notifications for comments/answers on main within the chat window?
 
@trichoplax Erm... No one. Nope. None.
 
lol
 
12:09 PM
No, I just would like one so I wondered if there was one in common use that others could recommend
 
Then ^^
Stack2RSS provides RSS feeds for answers, questions, comments, suggested edits, badges, reputation changes, question timeline events, and more! Stay on top of what's happening like never before.
 
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Q: A way to access the SE Global Inbox from Chat

C. RossRelated: Feed for global inbox I spend a lot of time in chat these days, and only pop over to a site when I have a question, or see something in the feed reader that I want to answer. This sometimes causes my inbox to have lots of replys that I would have liked to see earlier. I don't usuall...

There are some recommended here too - but from a long time ago...
 
The other thing is combining RSS feeds into one. Can someone suggest a tool to combine many RSS feeds into one?
 
@trichoplax Probably this one:
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A: A way to access the SE Global Inbox from Chat

agent86Alternatively, if you wish to have this a bit more integrated with the chat interface, you might be interested in: ChatterBox - Userscript that adds inbox integration to StackExchange Chat! This screenshot is slightly out of date, as it now also displays the item body.

But.
I can add a feature to SOX if you want.
 
@MarsUltor You manage/contribute to SEE?
 
12:15 PM
@zyabin101 Kind of. Right now I'm having trouble handling drag-to-upload.
 
I knew TNB would be the best place to ask a random unrelated question...
 
@MarsUltor GitHub? Also, you of course know that upload is the only way to add/edit files in a repo.
 
@AlexA. IRB isn't really cool? :(
 
@MarsUltor I don't know what SOX is. Thanks I'll have a look at that
 
and, no, I am not
 
12:16 PM
@trichoplax It doesn't have a chat inbox feature yet.
 
Hey @Doorknob
14 mins ago, by zyabin101
@AlexA. You're proficient in Julia, but your Stack Overflow profile shows that you're also an avid user of R. Why?
 
@MarsUltor I was mainly looking to get updates from main shown in chat - I don't need chat updates
 
@zyabin101 I mean handling it for SE via SOX (adding/removing SOX extension JS/CSS/spritesheets)
 
Do you know why Alex is a polyglot?
 
@trichoplax I know. It isn't implemented yet.
 
12:18 PM
Ah OK. No problem - I'm just browsing around to see what exists - no need to make changes
 
Unfortunately, Stack2RSS doesn't work because there is too much load on it XD
Does someone know of an alternate way to convert Stack API to RSS?
For the awhile there's no PPCG there, but a list of noteworthy badges for mods.
 
@trichoplax SECI is working fine for me.
 
12:37 PM
Thanks I'll have a look
 
I started doing a worthiness check of our mods. Nothing is actually done to the mods, just based on the stats, I'll return a report.
 
@MarsUltor You're a greasestack god.
 
threading-comments is really good, everyone should have it.
 
@MarsUltor Where?
Martin Büttner
Noteworthy badges:

List from elections.stackexchange.com.

1. O Deputy
2. O Civic Duty
3. O Convention
4. O Strunk and White
5. O Electorate
6. O Sportsmanship
7. O Pundit
8. O Copy Editor
9. O Outspoken
 = O 9/0 X
 
12:46 PM
@zyabin101 ö, not ü
also:
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Q: Threaded comments

balpha History June 6, 2012: Fixed an issue that can cause major problems with chat. December 17, 2013: Fix an incompatibility with the Winter Bash code. Screenshot Before: After: About Instead of showing comments in chronological order, this user script displays them in a threaded view, ...

 
@MarsUltor I used HTML entities, but they don't show in code snippets.
@MarsUltor Also, it's u with an umlaut. ö will be Martin Böttner XD
 
Screenshot:
@zyabin101 Oops, getting him confused with Marky. ü
 
Next up is Dennis! It is unoutgolfable, but it is unoutmoddable? Probably no.
@MarsUltor What, are they RenderSettings? Show me the answer!
 
@zyabin101 ?
 
@MarsUltor Link me to the answer in the screenshot.
 
1:00 PM
3
A: Translate oOo CODE

RenderSettingsHoon, 212 bytes =+([v=turn c=curr q=cold k=tape] |=(t/k `k`(v (v `(list k)`(need ((unit (list k)) p:(rose (murn t (c rush alf)) (star (stun [3 3] ;~(pose (q '0' low) (q '1' hig))))))) (c scan bin)) (c snag (rip 3 '><[]-+.,'))))) Ungolfed: |= t/tape ^- tape %+ turn %+ turn ^- (list tap...

 
Dennis
Noteworthy badges:

List from elections.stackexchange.com.

1. X Deputy
2. O Civic Duty
3. O Convention
4. O Strunk and White
5. O Electorate
6. O Sportsmanship
7. O Pundit
8. X Copy Editor
9. O Outspoken
 = O 7/2 X
Doorknob
Noteworthy badges:

List from elections.stackexchange.com.

1. X Deputy
2. O Civic Duty
3. O Convention
4. O Strunk and White
5. X Electorate
6. O Sportsmanship
7. O Pundit
8. X Copy Editor
9. O Outspoken
 = O 6/3 X
Noteworthy badge check done. We have a clear winner!
 
@Dennis Can you please pull 05AB1E?
 
 o     |II |
/|\|>==[001]
/ \    | II|
 
wat
 
@AandN Dude pulling.
It's a new ASCII Exercise-o-Matic II.
Next up, network participation check.
 
1:13 PM
Hahaha
 
Martin B&uuml;ttner has participated in 78 Stack Exchange communities,
including Programming Puzzles & Code Golf,
where they are a moderator.

Their best question has 161 votes.
Their best answer, 356.
They have 83,367 rep on Programming Puzzles & Code Golf.
Fun fact: a mod has the most rep on the site mentioned.
Dennis has participated in 94 Stack Exchange communities,
including Programming Puzzles & Code Golf,
where they are a moderator.

Their best question has 89 votes.
Their best answer, 206.
They have 66,355 rep on Programming Puzzles & Code Golf.
Fun fact: Dennis' best network answer is on Super User.
Doorknob has participated in 106 Stack Exchange communities,
including Programming Puzzles & Code Golf,
where they are a moderator.

Their best question has 162 votes.
Their best answer, 201.
They have 35,935 rep on Programming Puzzles & Code Golf.
Fun fact: Doorknob's best question is on SO.
Network participation check completed. It is already clear about the overall winner, but honorable mention to Doorknob for contributing the most around the SE network.
 
1:28 PM
@AandN Done.
 
\o/    |*I*|
 | |>==[100]
/ \    |*I*|
@Dennis Finally! This dude ^ has already become a hero according to the EoM.
Where's that reset button?
Well, the two parts of the check were finished. Also, @Dennis, I revealed information about the mods.
 
Why, if I may ask?
 
Thanks :)
 
I'm interested in the mods' statistics and their participation so it can be a hard source for choosing new mods for Code Golf in the future.
 
That's a terrible way to pick your candidates. If those things mattered, we would not need an election at all.
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1:35 PM
For example, you're a worthy moderator, with 7 noteworthy badges.
@Dennis I know. And actually, all that matters is the voter.
I'm just making that a source for choosing the mod to vote for.
This will soon include the candidates' survey.
 
I'm a worthy moderator if I dedicate time to moderating, am fair, patient and have good judgment. Badges don't have anything to do with it...
 
@Dennis They are just noteworthy.
 
Nine stars for an observation about my terrible bird pun. Not bad... not bad at all.
 
1:58 PM
@IsBegot Does the 30 day limit on name changes apply to you in the same way as the downvote limit?? Or are you working through the SE sites successively changing your parent site?
 
I can neither confirm nor deny this theory of yours.
 
@trichoplax He just switches his parent site. He has a lot of sites. Today Math, tomorrow Skeptics... A week later, Stack Overflow!
@IsBegot SCANNED!
 
With 152 communities, that should allow changing chat username every 5 hours. You could permanently have your username showing the date and rough time of day (morning, lunchtime, evening, night...)
 
@trichoplax While I really like that idea, I'm not sure others would like it nearly as much :D
I could do day-of-week and part of day without even joining new sites. I've got 50+ to play with.
 
They'd like it even less if you changed the avatar to match...
Seems like a lot of work for a gimmick though. Unless you could automate it...
 
2:04 PM
I guess I probably could, but I'm not sure it's worth the effort to automate.
 
I've got 3. I can make my username show the month of the season.
 
@trichoplax A clock roughly approximating UTC time
 
A calendar page with a sun [rise/high/set] like thing would work too.
 
But one of them is Russian SO... :/
 
That still works for this, right?
 
2:11 PM
Three...
Tarararam taram, tarararam taram!
I changed my parent site.
Look at my profile...
zyabin101
Russian Stack Overflow

Learning to breathe...
seen 1s ago, talked 1s ago
user profile
user profile on *ru.stackoverflow.com*
Rooms

The Nineteenth Byte
Beep Boop Maggot
PPCG Minecraft Server
Also, Marky now hates me.
One side effect of switching parent sites is that my chat account hasn't changed except the parent site.
@Marine1 Welcome to Programming Puzzles & Code Golf! Dennis, tell them about our best golfers.
 
dear KoTHers: how much would you hate it if I required delimiters between parameters?
 
@NathanMerrill Erm... not much. Nope. nvm.
 
for example on the Good vs Evil challenge, we pass a list as follows 0001011
 
Delimiters besides spaces? I don't really care about delimiters as long as they're consistent and logical.
 
I would have thought KotHs were where delimiters would be resented least. Do you have an example?
 
2:18 PM
instead of 0,0,0,1,0,1,1
 
Ah. Well unless there's a ton of data being passed, I don't really see much of a down side.
 
Unless it's a hybrid golf KotH, I don't see any problem at all
 
ok. I was trying to allow no delimiters, but it was making my code really messy
 
Or a very short time limit where parsing would eat into it. In most cases, it sounds fine.
 
I'll add support for "no delimiters later"
 
2:21 PM
@Geobits do you know why Marky hates me?
 
def handle_message(self, contents, event, client):
    if event.user.id == 183551:
        return
    ...
 
Then under the hood, you hate me, so I have to become ignorant of you!
 
Ok, do what you must.
 
Because three people hate me, I have to leave. So long.
 
If you know of three, then it's at least three, as there are many unknowns
To narrow it down a little, I don't hate you...
 
2:28 PM
@trichoplax _UNK
 
My thoughts exactly
 
Has anyone noticed that @MartinBüttner is currently the Top Network Asker for a question on MATHEMATICS.SE?
 
@Eridan Yes, and it was a great question.
 
Damn, 94 on math? Nice job @Martin :D
 
Just reading that one myself - it's fascinating...
 
2:39 PM
My one and only question on math.se is a 36. Higher than I expected, but nowhere close to that.
 
That's 18 times my math.se question...
 
Well that's your problem right there. My math shows that it's only 12 times yours.
 
lol
thanks upvoter!
 
@IsBegot (cc @Eridan @trichoplax @Zgarb) thanks :) ... I'm quite baffled by how popular it is. I don't think I've ever managed +12 and 6 stars within 5 minutes if posting anywhere on the network.
The top answer is also really good though and definitely deserves its gold. :)
 
I'm often baffled at the voting on other sites, tbh.
 
2:51 PM
@PhiNotPi Yeah, I was turned off by that. There's not even a guarantee that I'd be good enough to want to pay $9/mo
In all likelihood, I probably wouldn't be
Since I'm not that great at KOTH
There is an option to tweet once per month to get 10 free days
 
@MartinBüttner When explained like that, I go "Oh, duh, that makes sense" ... but when initially reading your question I was "Umm. Hmm. What about. No. Hmm."
 
Not worth it, since your subscription will expire every month, causing you to start over.
@PhiNotPi So I guess there's always the infinite waves survival mode...
 
Is that an implication that a tweet is worth $3.33 to them? I'm not sure exactly what that says about the price point there...
 
Well, since Twitter has lost bajillions of dollars since inception, seems reasonable.
 
It just seems like really expensive advertising or a really overpriced subscription. One or the other.
 
2:56 PM
We could make our own MMOKOTH.
 
I've often thought about that.
 
I returned here to get advice on how to make a Markov chain chatbot. Is there an user that knows JavaScript?
 
Hate requires knowledge, so I'd say there's a lot of JS knowledge in this room
 
Here's a list of users who hate me:
Data, Marky, Geobits, and Conor.
 
@PhiNotPi We could make it half off site. Answers could contain a public key allowing the server to only accept bots that can prove they own the private key of an answer. Might also need to enforce that the same code is being used as was posted in the answer.
 
3:04 PM
Or we could make it completely offsite and monetize it ;)
 
@trichoplax you could just have the server automatically pull from the questiion
 
@NathanMerrill That would be much easier. I don't know what I was thinking... :)
 
I ignored all the people from this list. I also ignored 4 random chat users who just come and do nothing.
 
I'm not sure the MMO model would work with ours very well, to be quite honest. I think it would have to be separated to last very long.
 
@zyabin101 Easy with the ignore! What if you pop into chat with a JS question and one of the quiet ones you ignored has an answer for you?
 
3:06 PM
Now at 598 bytes and I've got 0 thru 50 and a smattering of others (for the 2016 APL challenge). Yeah, under 1000 is seeming really unlikely.
 
I'm pretty sure that SE is just one big MMO
 
Yea, but it's a totally different kind :P
 
@IsBegot Charge entrants, spectators watch free, cash prizes, ads pointing back to PPCG
 
Professional Programming Code Golf?
 
See, @IeBogst, @ConOrB'iroen? Many people hate you!
 
3:10 PM
@TimmyD Oh, an MMOCGKOTH... Have some resource depend on code size :)
 
I scrambled the names of the users intentionally!
 
@IsBegot I was thinking about how to include golf in a KotH. I was wondering about letting a bot with code size N only move every N turns
 
That might work, depending on how much you can accomplish in a turn. You might need a non-linear formula though.
 
tac
@AlexA. I spent quite a while laughing at that analysation of my code and commits @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ @zyabin101 @AquaTart
ps. I don't hate Python, I just love to make fun of it
it's one of the least dumb languages in terms of its behaviour
 
If anyone sorts out how to golf (code) for a living, please ping me in chat. Asking for a friend... — Martin Büttner ♦ Feb 8 at 16:33
7
 
3:14 PM
@IsBegot That would make it easier to find a game that worked with it.
 
Finally, @Vihan, you're here! Can you help me on making a Markov chain chatbot in JavaScript?
 
Hmm. what about a Civ-type? Each player is their own nation, tries to expand, deals with treaties and population, etc?
Code size could be related to speed at which things get done (like tech advances, building time, etc).
 
If a turn consists of updating a strategy, and the strategy is followed even when you don't have a turn, that might be balanced enough to work
 
Yea, or that.
Hmmm.... must brainstorm more on this...
 
Vaguely like what the Pandemic KOTH did
 
3:17 PM
Also, need a clever name. Botworld simply isn't going to cut it.
 
I think keeping it to just one restriction based on code size would work best, so maybe we'll see a variety of KotHs for the different restriction types
 
@IsBegot Bowl Trod
 
That is sooooo bad. I almost like it.
 
Word Blot
 
hello algo whizzes
 
3:19 PM
Brow Told
 
@Lembik Hello. Who do you hate?
 
consider a set of strings called the dictionary of total length n and a string of length n called the text. The task is to see if they text can be formed by concatenating strings from the dictionary. The twist is that you can use each string from the dictionary as many times as you like.
How fast can you solve this?
@zyabin101?
no one!
 
@Lembik Nope. I'm not an algo whiz.
 
oh well :)
 
@Lembik This is similar to a challenge we have here I believe. Basically word-splitting if I'm reading it right?
 
3:22 PM
@IsBegot oh...
 
I may be wrong, but I think we have one...
 
@Lembik Is the dictionary sorted or indexed in any way?
 
@TimmyD no
that's your job :)
 
That's a crap dictionary :P
 
don't blame the messenger!
you can make a better dictionary of course
 
3:24 PM
@Lembik That's known as string reconstruction.
 
@Zgarb ok.. what is the best algorithm?
 
Another random user? Is it the Visit Unknown Sites day?
 
So we've got O(n logn) to sort the dictionary, and an O(n logn) operation to iterate through each word in the sentence and search the dictionary.
 
@Lembik Looking for it now.
 
@TimmyD I don't think you can iterate the sentence by word. If I've got it right, the aim is to find those word boundaries.
 
3:26 PM
Oh, it's not "This is a sentence" but rather "Thisisasentence" ?
 
@zyabin101 I've never made a Markov chain bot before. You may want to ask Is Begot because I think Marky is a Markov chain bot
 
@Vihan why you don't answer? You hate me?
 
@TimmyD Right, like expertsexchange
 
@Vihan Is Begot hates me.
 
@Vihan He's not a Markov bot. The name is misleading, and is only that because it goes well with Marky.
 
3:28 PM
@IsBegot oh
 
@IsBegot Um, yuck. That's a much tougher problem.
 
you maintain a set of possible word orderings
its really not too hard at all
if you want really fast comparison, you can make a Trie
 
Until this moment my ignore list includes 6 people as random people. 2 as haters, and 0 as other.
 
@zyabin101 maybe this will help:
 
@Vihan I use browser JS, not Node.
 
3:36 PM
@Lembik Meh, all I'm finding is introductory lecture notes to dynamic programming that solve it in O(N^3), and point out that "further optimizations are possible".
 
@zyabin101 you can adapt it
I'll try to translate it to browser JS when I have time
 
@Vihan Okay.
Don't forget the LICENSE! Read it carefully!
> Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so...
Yes, you can.
Source: The LICENSE.
 
@zyabin101 Thanks for your welcoming message! I was just passing by, interrester about what codegolf was, did not found my answer and quited...
 
@Marine1 Did you know about the Sandbox? You can become a challenge writer.
Three...
Tarararam taram, tarararam taram!
 
...
 
3:47 PM
@Marine1 Did you find your answer after all? =)
 
@zyabin101 Hey, that's not a very nice way to welcome a new user. We don't want to discriminate people based on their fluency in English.
 
If not, chat is a nice place to do so =)
 
@Zgarb I already welcomed the new user.
> interrester
> did not found
> quited...
 
I'm kinda glad this guy has me ignored, because sooner or later I'm probably going to say some unkind things.
 
@zyabin101 I know, but then you criticized their English not long after.
 
3:50 PM
@zyabin101 I don't think that's very welcoming either, regardless of what their English level is. I think you'd get the same reaction if you told someone that IRL. =/
 
Anyway, I have stuff to do. Have fun ya'll.
 
Yeah, that's kinda really mean.
 
It's also rather hypocritical.
 
tac
Are we really making fun of people for their fluency level, not being kind and understanding? Really?
 

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