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10:06 PM

mmmm baklava

i suffered from a moment of insanity and thought to myself, "i don't want any baklava". fortunately, it passed.

I would have eaten it for you.

it does seem like ideal unicorn food, no?

user19161

baklava sounds like a drink

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It is certainly not a mushroom.

Baklava (Ottoman Turkish باقلوا, or ) is a rich, sweet pastry made of layers of filo pastry filled with chopped nuts and sweetened with syrup or honey. It is characteristic of the cuisines of the former Ottoman Empire and much of central and southwest Asia. History The history of baklava is not well documented. It has been claimed by many ethnic groups, but there is strong evidence that it is of Central Asian Turkic origin, with its current form being developed in the imperial kitchens of the Topkapı Palace. Many Ottoman sweets are similar to Byzantine sweets, using dough, sesame, ...

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10:11 PM

@JSBᾶngs Luckily it's not a mushroom, or I will be pseudojinxed.

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Mmmmm, honey...

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I really hope sb upvotes that answer as it is the only correct one and not many know about the new feature.

Ohhh look at this one at the end

salivates

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@aediaλ Doesn't look delicious simply because I dunno what it tastes like.

10:13 PM

@aediaλ I had no idea you felt that way about me.

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@Kitḫ No flirting in chat.

giggles

Hi!

Hi!

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Kit and Aedia only say hi to each other.

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You two go get a room.

10:15 PM

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@Kitḫ Is that even a real language?

That's how I feel about aedia...

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You are all nuts!

ok, gotta go peeplez

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@JSBᾶngs Enjoy portabello!

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10:20 PM

Hi @mitch!

@Kitḫ Awwh.

@JSBᾶngs Bai!

@JSBᾶngs Ciao!

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@Kitḫ That's how I feel about myself. person_in_room=myself

Syntax error: Unable to parse person_in_room=myself; Variable myself is not declared.

@aediaλ WHAT IS THAT i WANT THAT

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10:23 PM

@Cerberus No typing like that!

Puh I see no Matties.

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Q: What is the inverse of "fragility", 'benefiting from difficulties'?

In his article Antifragility -or- The Property Of Disorder-Loving Systems, Nassim Taleb coins the term "antifragility" to mean the opposite of "fragility." Just as a package sent by mail can bear a stamp "fragile", "breakable" or "handle with care", consider the exact opposite: a package that...

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11 answers! I like my "masochistic"!

@Cerberus It's this.

> In Azerbaijan, pakhlava is mostly prepared during the Novruz festivity. After preparation the pakhlava is cut into diamond shapes and each piece is garnished with an almond or a walnut.

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@Cerberus I am the originator of the rule, he plagiarised me.

10:24 PM

Mac and cheese and ham and peas; I love it when dinner rhymes!

eats non-rhyming sweet potato muffin and sulks about not having any baklava

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eating double cheeseburger soon

@aediaλ I suddenly remember I needed to visit Azerbaijan urgently anyway.

I thought you might.

eating salad with lettuce, smoked salmon, baked potatoes, egg, tomato, vinaigrette

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10:29 PM

I need to visit the loo soon.

I find baklava meh compared to my bakla-cheesecake recipe.

@Cerberus punches and steals food

@Kitḫ I can see the combination.

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@Cerberus smoked

remembers she's allergic to fish and returns food

@Kitḫ steals back mac and cheese, and it'd better be good

I like some kinds of baklava very much.

They must have nuts and be very, very sweet.

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10:30 PM

@Cerberus I only know bakkwa.

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Bakkwa () is a Chinese salty-sweet dried meat product similar to jerky, made in the form of flat thin sheets. It is normally made from pork. Bakkwa is believed to have originated from a meat preservation and preparation technique used in ancient China that is still practiced in places with Hokkien influence. In Malaysia, Singapore, Riau Islands and the Philippines bakkwa or bagua is the most widely used name derived from the Hokkien Chinese dialect. Cantonese speakers use the term yuhk gōn, Anglicised version long yok, while in China and Taiwan the product is more commonly known as rougan...

But something like cheese from cheese cake or sour cream would actually be good with baklava, I imagine.

Hmm pork... I dunno.

@Cerberus You would want the nuts. Personally, I prefer my desserts nutless.

@Cerberus It is dreamy.

@Kitḫ Really? I can never fathom you.

As long as the main course is nutty?

Meh. Maybe.

10:32 PM

Or do you feel nutty enough yourself, these days?

I feel pretty nutty.

user19161

Nuts like me should not take more nuts.

Appointment's tomorrow though.

Any more than normally?

Ah, good.

Don't be afraid to ask further questions if the doc is vague.

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I never like nuts though.

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10:33 PM

I don't like to chew.

I like 'em all.

Except peanuts.

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The pork I showed above is very fatty.

Heck, I even like peanuts, as long as they're on cookies or something.

Yeah I rarely eat pork.

Only bacon and sausages, actually.

And ham.

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During CHinese New Year they are standard fare, used as gifts.

@Cerberus You know something about this stuff? Well, why didn't you say so in the first place?

10:35 PM

@Kitḫ Heh. Ask him further questions, not me!

Oh. You mean ask the doctor further questions if she's vague.

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@Kitḫ He's just making a general statemnt.

He, she, or it.

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Anyone can say that.

Gotta go. Later!

10:35 PM

Bye!

I always find it difficult to ask another question when the doctor mumbles something.

@Kitḫ Good! Good luck!

@Kitḫ Aw, bye!

@Cerberus makes yucky face and pushes imaginary peanut cookies in your direction

@aediaλ Yeah, I know. They certainly aren't my favourites.

But, hey, it's sugar and fat!

@Cerberus You mean sugar and those - those horrible horrible allergen-filled bean things.

@JasperLoy Hi..but I'm about to be off! So much controversy! Don't people watch TV anymore?

10:55 PM

@aediaλ Yeah, those. So you're allergic?

Then I will enthusiastically trample the wicked things!

Not other nuts too?

@Cerberus Yup. Not life-threateningly, just very very annoyingly.

Please leave us the other ones!

OK.

Oh no other ones.

Peanuts are different from tree nuts because peanuts are a legume.

Do you think the common allergy among humans is because it is a natural pesticide that the plant makes to protect its seeds?

@aediaλ Oh, this mysterious category again.

@Cerberus I consider that fortunate, actually, because the tree nuts like hazelnuts and walnuts and stuff are more closely related, so people with tree nut allergy often have to avoid all of the nuts I like.

10:58 PM

Hmm...

And if they were the same category, they'd have to avoid peanuts in addition to tree nuts?

@Cerberus I don't really know, but I don't think other animals have this reaction. The reaction is just an immune response to the peanut proteins.

It's not like a toxin that's in there or something.

Hmm.

@Cerberus Yes, they might.

Odd.

I can eat things that are cooked in peanut oil, usually, because only low levels of the peanut protein are in there.

I try not to worry about it.

11:08 PM

Good.

I try to save up allergies for things I really find yucky.

Haha.

You know, when I eat mushrooms I really get a swollen throat, because I absolutely have to swallow them whole.

Chewing is unbearably disgusting.

Eww.

You hate them that much?

Yeah.

I'd rather eat insects.

Why not avoid them completely?

11:10 PM

Oh I try to!

But sometimes one has to be polite.

Only allergy can trump that.

Can't you leave a little bit of food on your plate and tuck all the mushrooms under it?

But I must finish my plate!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

in War Metal Tyrant, Nov 10 at 2:55, by Cerberus

Being picky sucks. I like most things, but the things I hate really bother me. I wish I liked mushrooms. barf

Wow.

It really is a sport you you, isn't it?

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Jul 26 at 13:00, by RegDwight

Asparagus always reminds me of that one girl Lewis Carroll once interviewed. She hated asparagus, and when he asked her why, she answered "well, if I liked it, I would have to eat it, and I can't stand it!"

11:12 PM

Haha.

I like the formal "liking".

Mmm, asparagus.

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BTW we're on the same page re:shrooms.

Good!

So many people hate them.

@aediaλ I like asparagus too.

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I do eat them from time to time, but it's acquired taste. And I still haven't acquired the "taste" part.

Heh.

But do they truly disgust you?

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11:14 PM

I can feel the part about swallowing without chewing, yes.

When I even think there might have once been mushrooms in some dish, it as though the dish were poisoned. I can't eat it with my usual fearless gluttony.

They can sometimes be cooked wrong and then they're slimy and yucky.

@RegDwightѬſ道 OK then you're on the right side.

nom nom nom

Like that.

My ex was like that about the mushrooms. Wouldn't eat anything that looked like it might have been near one.

See?

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11:16 PM

My wife is crazy about mushrooms. And she makes really, really nice stuff out of them.

@aediaλ That is the Natural Human State™.

@RegDwightѬſ道 And you eat it??

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Not very often. And when I do, I usually end up drowning it in parmesan or something.

Turncoat!

I really wouldn't.

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Well, parmesan is awesome.

Only extreme etiquette pressure can force me.

11:17 PM

@Cerberus I'm pretty sure the natural state is closer to eating them raw after yanking the plastic off the container from the supermarket. Or something.

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Parmesan goes well with anything, from parmesan to parmesan.

@RegDwightѬſ道 Yes but they even taint poor little parmesan!

@aediaλ Haha I'm glad your insight into natural processes is up to date.

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@aediaλ That's the most natural way to eat stones, too. And yet, just look how few people actually do.

@RegDwightѬſ道 It is like wrapping HIV in a beautiful human being.

I still wouldn't want the virus in me.

So, yes, if you pack the mushrooms individually in little rubber sacks and put melted parmesan on them, fine.

Only then will I eat them.

Well, never mind that analogy.

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I actually like mushroom soup.

11:21 PM

What!?

See?

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Well, it's soup!!!!

I knew it.

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I could kill for soup.

It is mushrooms!!

I like nearly all soups.

But not Tainted soup.

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Not if you ignore the mushrooms and just eat the soup.

With Backerbsen.

11:22 PM

Ignore them?

Again, I demand rubber sacklets.

You and your Backerbsen.

I still haven't received any in the mail.

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I dunno. I don't eat rubber.

You just swallow it.

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I only gnaw on old tires to strengthen my jaw.

You dog!

I suppose old is an acquired taste too.

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A: Should I use a semicolon or a dash to connect two closely related sentences?

I don't think I was ever taught a clear-cut rule, and as a non-native speaker, I am probably spoiled to some extent by the usage of dashes in other languages. That being said, following nothing but my intuition I would use: a semicolon when the sentences express related, yet independent (especi...

11:24 PM

Ah, I remember.

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No way.

user19161

BOO

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Parse error.

Hehe.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@JasperLoy Feel free to speak in whole sentences in this room.

11:24 PM

I mean, after reading it again.

And not capitalize whole words!!

I mean, Jeesh.

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Yeah, never capitalize whole Jeesh.

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@RegDwightѬſ道 Boo! Complete sentence with an exclamation mark.

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See. Much better now.

It's freaking cold.

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@RegDwightѬſ道 In case you missed my favourite song which I have listened a few hundred times this week...

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11:26 PM

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This video is not available in my country.

Get some proper laws.

Also, rid of RIAA.

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@Cerberus I did not know I had attained deity status.

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@RegDwightѬſ道 Really? Oh this is the best version of that song. The other versions are not so nice.

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Well, it's Westlife. They don't have bad versions.

@RegDwightѬſ道 Actually this is interesting. It is very often that videos are unavailable in your country, rarely in mine or in America. Why is that? I had no idea the music industry was so influential there.

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11:29 PM

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This is the second best version.

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Okay that still image is creepy as hell.

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@RegDwightѬſ道 He's gay, and I'm in love with him.

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No news to anyone.

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I announce that I am using FF10 now, hehe.

11:31 PM

How come everyone always knows and remembers who's gay and who isn't in these bands?

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Simple. Just remember everyone.

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I suspected he was when I saw that video but he came out only in 2005 I think.

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Jun 15 at 12:55, by Robusto

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@JasperLoy You even remember years!

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@Cerberus Nope I just read wiki.

11:34 PM

@RegDwightѬſ道 I also keep forgetting whether the left one was Rob or you.

I never thought I'd be this happy to see that picture again, but it's pushed that unnerving video frame off the screen.

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Aug 30 at 18:59, by Robusto

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@aediaλ You don't like my idol?

Oh my, you guys have aged well.

@JasperLoy I don't like people frozen with their faces in odd positions, period!

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11:35 PM

@aediaλ You need a smaller screen.

OMG you're discriminating against the frozen!

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I herd iphones r gr8 4 pipl who's screen 2 large

Poor Ötzi.

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@aediaλ He is very cute. If I were a girl I would marry him too, and Justin, and Taylor.

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11:36 PM

@Cerberus WTF!

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@Cerberus And you are discriminating against people discriminating against Ötzi!

That's Ötzi.

See at least that one isn't all wax dummy or uncanny valley.

@RegDwightѬſ道 Yeah discriminating is great fun. Why?

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Aug 4 at 20:27, by Cerberus

Ötzi!

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11:37 PM

@RegDwightѬſ道 They are not my type.

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This Ötzi again, but reconstructed.

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Hey a personal message incoming!

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@Cerberus Jimmy Wales!

Or at least I think it must be. He's on poor Ötzi's page.

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A personal appeal, even!

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11:38 PM

@RegDwightѬſ道 It happens every year at this time.

A personal appeal from 5.3k years ago, only for YOU!

He's going to cry! Somebody do something!

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Try this one instead:

Aug 4 at 20:27, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

The Ötztal is a 65-kilometer long alpine valley in the Austrian state of Tyrol. The Ötztaler Ache river flows through the valley in a northern direction. The Ötztal separates the Stubai Alps in the east from the Ötztal Alps in the west. The northern end of the valley is at the confluence of the Ötztaler Ache and Inn rivers, 8 kilometers east of Imst and 50 kilometers west of Innsbruck. Here is the only railway station of the valley, Ötztal railway station, which connects the Ötztal with the Arlberg railway (Innsbruck-Bludenz) and also a motorway interchange to the A12 (E60). The southern ...

Was he found there?

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No they asked the mummy for his name, and then named the valley after him.

11:40 PM

How sweet.

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They should ask the daddy instead.

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THWACL

Hm.

What was that?

Who?

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Let me try again.

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@RegDwightѬſ道 THWACK

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11:40 PM

THWACK!

jinx!

Is Thwäckl Ötzi's dad?

Hmm.

Who's thwacking whom exactly?

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Q: key thob and key fob

I've been receiving emails at work inquiring about registering our key fobs. This is slightly disturbing to me as I've always called it a key thob. An internet search for thob tells me I really mean fob, but if I force it to search for thob instead, it finds plenty of results (1.1 million for tho...

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read comments there

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With all these questions I am really starting to wonder how simple words are spelled.

maps.google.com/…

@Cerberus

this is what i saw. i thought it was a peculiarly dutch thing

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11:44 PM

@z7sgѪ Must be midnight there. Not sleeping?

@JasperLoy not midnight yet

@z7sgѪ Ah, yes! Some houses have those.

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The danger in using google or ngrams is that once sth becomes statistically significant anyone can just post a question here and ask whether the word exists.

I don't know why.

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So f*ck google and ngrams.

11:47 PM

Perhaps it is a silly bourgeois thing or something.

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I mean what are authoritative dictionaries for then?

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I really don't think we should cite wiktionary or freedictionary either.

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I think I'm out for today.

Night all, have fun.

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@RegDwightѬſ道 Good! Night! Goodnight!

Bye!

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11:50 PM

@Cerberus Bye!

@JasperLoy I was saying that to Reg.

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