Coding Projects and Duga Heaven :)

Duga

12:00 AM

RELOAD!

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] 2 commits. 1 issue comment. 37 additions. 59 deletions.

[Cardshifter/HTML-Client] 3 opened issues. 4 issue comments.

[Zomis/Duga] 1 opened issue. 7 issue comments.

Phrancis

I think I'm going to actually work on Cardshifter some tonight

Tired of thinking of those damn images, I want to get it over with so I can do something more interesting like game balancing :)

Duga

12:58 AM

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] jacwah pushed commit 10c3e22d to invites: Move sendInvite to InviteManager.createInvite

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] jacwah pushed commit f080bc6e to invites

Only allow one open invite and refactoring

Isolate invite handler code to InviteManager.

See #373.

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] jacwah pushed commit d632db4b to invites

Add one invite per player test

Is currently failing.

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] jacwah pushed commit 7110de99 to invites: Add logging to InviteManager

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] jacwah pushed commit de43a78d to invites: Use id instead of ClientIO as key in InviteManager

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] jacwah pushed commit fae39729 to invites: Send ServerErrorMessage if invite already open

jacwah

Almost works :)

I'll figure this out tomorrow, good night!

Duga

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] build for commit fae39729 on invites: The Travis CI build failed

BUILD FAILURE!

Phrancis

2:04 AM

One of my rare Java answers ... :)

Phrancis

5:36 AM

In case anyone is interested, I posted a Java question just now:

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Q: "ONCE", "UPON", "A", "TIME"

I'm working on a small program to perform various tasks on text content, primarily at the word level. I wrote these methods as ways to help prepare the raw text file into something more malleable, like a List<String>, where at a later point I can perform various routines such as counting and sort...

A Red Herring

6:21 AM

I have decided to apply for that job, by the way

Worst case scenario I get a "no". Best case scenario I move to Berlin

Phrancis

Good!

A Red Herring

and from the looks of it Berlin is incredibly cheap

600-800 euro/mo for an apartment in Prenzlauer Berg

compare this to the £570/mo I'm paying for a shitty one bedroom flat in the middle of the worst area in Cardiff..

Phrancis

That sounds quite reasonable indeed

TTGTB, damn insomnia

Java tonight, lots of coffee in the morning...

A Red Herring

:(

Phrancis

4 hours sleep, I've done worse :x

Toodles!

A Red Herring

6:29 AM

bbl friend

skiwi

8:17 AM

hey

@Phrancis I almost made myself sick by having only 5,5 hours from Sunday to Monday this week, and I'm still feeling it

jacwah

10:59 AM

Should we create a community promotion ad for Cardshifter on CR? I think it could help with the More developers issue and get some more people interested.

A Red Herring

11:52 AM

@jacwah that could be a good idea

jacwah

12:10 PM

in The CRonicles, 11 hours ago, by Mat's Mug

Of Ducks and VBA

39 mins ago, 38 minutes total – 98 messages, 7 users, 24 stars

Bookmarked 11 secs ago by Mat's Mug

in The CRonicles, 11 hours ago, by Mat's Mug

The Great Revival

2 days ago, 1 hour 42 minutes total – 262 messages, 7 users, 58 stars

Bookmarked 6 secs ago by Mat's Mug

^^ These are great

<afk>

Phrancis

12:41 PM

Monking

Marc-Andre

Hey @Phrancis!

A Red Herring

monking

Marc-Andre

how is everyone doing ?

Phrancis

Good! How are you?

Simon André Forsberg

MONKING!!!

Marc-Andre

12:53 PM

Good! Had time to work on my game last night and it's now going on a good pace! I will add more time to work on it on the weekend too so that should help!

Simon André Forsberg

what game are you working on @Marc-Andre?

Marc-Andre

@SimonAndréForsberg you were in my dreams last night. You had me coded something (can't remember what). And I'm on working on a small project with one of my friend : github.com/banane-io/PDB

Simon André Forsberg

@Marc-Andre Let's see.... 1. Code Review now has a fifth moderator. 2. I got a full-time job :) I'd say that today is a pretty fine day!

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@Marc-Andre lol

Marc-Andre

@SimonAndréForsberg Congrats on the new job!

Simon André Forsberg

Thanks. Starting on the 14th!

> We currently need someone to tutor us in the best practices for Rails.

ever heard of Code Review?

Marc-Andre

12:55 PM

I know I will have some questions soon!

I just need to prepare the code to be reviewed!

Duga

[Cardshifter/Cardshifter] Zomis commented on issue #200: Code cleanup

> Agreed, please move cardshifter-console to /dev/null, @jacwah.

Marc-Andre

And I have to think about the license too, since when you post on CR your code is now CC SA blablabla I can't remember the name of the license

And since at one point I may want to be "serious" with the code I don't want any trouble :D

Simon André Forsberg

@Duga @jacwah please tell me you get that Linux reference :) (just so that you don't create a /dev/null directory in the repo...)

Phrancis

Damn, I think I might have capped for today

Simon André Forsberg

@Marc-Andre CC-BY-SA.

@Marc-Andre Afraid of getting in trouble with yourself?

Phrancis

12:59 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg Awesome!! Can you tell us more about it?

Marc-Andre

@SimonAndréForsberg No I need to think how the licence will affect other people using my code. I didn't think about it, I just pick a random licence. I'm not used to think about licensing and the impacts.

A Red Herring

@SimonAndréForsberg mv /usr/simon/humour /dev/null

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Simon André Forsberg

@Marc-Andre I'm a big fan of MIT, some BSD License and Apache License 2. But it depends on what rights you want people to have of course.

A Red Herring

@Duga pfff, I even wrote an (albeit terrible) unit test for my round robin thing Ij ust made... gist.github.com/danpantry/230d0791b979db5db882

Simon André Forsberg

@Phrancis it's a consulting firm, SigmaIT, doing a lot of Java development but also other things (I might do some AngularJS stuff as well). They will try to "sell" me to customers.

A Red Herring

1:06 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg I'm assuming they only do swedish business (i.e, people who don't speak swedish aren't welcome)

Simon André Forsberg

> Sigma IT Consulting finns på ca 20 orter i Sverige och i ytterligare sex länder.

Marc-Andre

@SimonAndréForsberg Yeah I think the code will remain publiv and license with Apache 2.0.

Simon André Forsberg

translate Sigma IT Consulting finns på ca 20 orter i Sverige och i ytterligare sex länder.

translate: Sigma IT Consulting finns på ca 20 orter i Sverige och i ytterligare sex länder.

(from Swedish) Sigma IT Consulting is available at approximately 20 locations in Sweden and in six more countries.

A Red Herring

@SimonAndréForsberg I meant more along the lines of would they accept a consultant who isn't Swedish-literate

Because if they're looking for angular stuff... :P

Simon André Forsberg

@ARedHerring I know they have some developers in Ukraine, and some Ukrainians are working in Sweden. I doubt all of them can speak Swedish.

@ARedHerring I can try to find out more about that. You interested?

(I think your Berlin job would pay more though)

A Red Herring

1:08 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg I don't see why not

The berlin job is not a guarantee, I'm reckoning only 10% chance that they would actually acceptm e

Whereas I actually have professional and demonstratable experience in angularJS

Plus, from the sounds of it, they would allow remote workers (@Ukrainian devs)

Simon André Forsberg

@ARedHerring I don't think they allow remote workers. They have Ukrainians working in Ukraine. And some of the Ukrainians are at an office in Sweden (I hope to meet them some day)

A Red Herring

@SimonAndréForsberg Ah, I see. Well, its still worth enquiring about. I hear Sweden is a very nice country

And I might have a thing for blondes (I kid)

Simon André Forsberg

We have more girls than just blondes!

A Red Herring

Haha :P

I'll see where things lead me. Berlin or Sweden would both ben ice

obviously, if I get the Berlin job I'd go with the Berlin one - smack bang in the middle of europe, its not as cold and it likely pays more

but it would be an honour to formally work with you

Simon André Forsberg

I'll look into it

A Red Herring

1:37 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg thank you :) let me know if I can do anything to help

Simon André Forsberg

2:12 PM

by the way, @ARedHerring:

in The 2nd Monitor, 2 mins ago, by Simon André Forsberg

In even more other news: I did have a job interview earlier this year, I didn't get the job but hey, I got a pretty nice job interview!

(see image posted afterwards)

A Red Herring

@SimonAndréForsberg I saw, I starred it :-)

Simon André Forsberg

@Phrancis @skiwi ^^ now you know what I was doing when I lurked a few days at the end of May

Phrancis

Ahh ok :)

bazola

@SimonAndréForsberg grats on the job, that is awesome

Simon André Forsberg

@bazola Google would have been even more awesome but... :) Thanks!

bazola

2:18 PM

maybe, but also maybe not. i could see google being a tough place to work

A Red Herring

@bazola I would do a hell of a lot for the culture google appears to have.

Marc-Andre

Working on a big company like Google seems like a lot of fun and challenge. But I'm sure that it would depends on the team/project you're on.

A Red Herring

I think one appeal of working at google would be the competitve nature

You'd always be working to improve yourself.

but I can see how that might be a bit of a burn out, especially if you don't have the time to dedicate to the organisation (family, children)

Marc-Andre

2:43 PM

I love working from home!

This is the view I have (sorry for the potato quality)

I can see the Saint-Laurent River and Isle d'Orleans

#Get #Jealous

skiwi

2:58 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg Congrats on the job!

and hey

@SimonAndréForsberg A consulting firm, that's a really interesting move on junior level

Simon André Forsberg

thanks

I hate the terms "junior"/"senior".

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg Woah... You've been at... Google?

Simon André Forsberg

@Marc-Andre that is nice yes

@skiwi yes indeed. for an interview

Marc-Andre

I agree with you @SimonAndréForsberg ! And I hate that at my job you have a hierarchy like devleopper/analyst/architect.

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg It's what the industry likes, no way around it :(

Marc-Andre

3:02 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg Thank you ! I'm so happy in our new apartment I had to share :D

skiwi

But I always thought of consulting firms as attracting mostly senior developers

Marc-Andre

Consulting firms can sell "juniors" as "seniors" so...

skiwi

Now I wonder how you got to apply at Google... A recruiter?

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi just because the industry likes it doesn't mean that you have to.

@skiwi yes indeed. they found my profile on SO. then they looked at my Github and saw my open source projects and contributions.

skiwi

3:20 PM

I need to code more!

I want a Google recruiter too :P

Marc-Andre

@skiwi You need to focus on one or two project too

Simon André Forsberg

that ^^

Phrancis

3:54 PM

Between staff meetings and computer crashes, not getting much done today :|

A Red Herring

Got an interview with the recruiter on tuesday fo rthe Berlin job

@Phrancis between 2nd monitor and cardshifter tcg i don't usually get much done >.>

also.

skiwi

I need to focus more!

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@ARedHerring Nice

A Red Herring

felt I'd cross post it here in case people aren't in 2nd

Phrancis

ORLY

skiwi

@Phrancis YE RLY

A Red Herring

4:00 PM

@Phrancis looks like that caption was written by @SimonAndréForsberg, our resident expert at documentation.

Simon André Forsberg

@ARedHerring Not even I would write that bad.

jacwah

</afk>

Simon André Forsberg

I would either have no caption at all, or I would actually explain it.

Phrancis

Looks like whoever documented that table in the dictionary themselves had no idea what that column was for; every other one is well documented lol.

A Red Herring

> I would ~~either~~ have no caption at all, ~~or I would actually explain it.~~

I am equally bad at documentation so I really have no right to speak

jacwah

4:02 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg Haha ;)

@Marc-Andre choosealicense.com is great

A Red Herring

@Marc-Andre TLDR: GPL = you must open source. MIT = do whatever. just don't sue me. I have no idea what the Apache one does.

Most of the time I go with MIT.

I would hate to see the GPL because it essentially means I can't use that project in anything professional

Simon André Forsberg

@ARedHerring GPL = you must also GPL, I believe.

A Red Herring

@SimonAndréForsberg yep. Which is why I said "you must open source" - because GPL is open source.

Simon André Forsberg

GPL is more than just open source though.

A Red Herring

You can't weaken the licence either. ie, if you go GPL, derivatives can't use LGPL (which is less restrictive); they must also go GPL.

it's a really sucky licence (unless you're very OPEN SOURCE FREE FOREVER)

Simon André Forsberg

4:08 PM

that ^^

A Red Herring

if you're writing libraries, please don't ever use GPL

if you're writing applications, GPL is fair enough.

Phrancis

What about the WTFPL?

A Red Herring

Cardshifter would do well under Apache or GPL

@Phrancis that is essentially MIT.

Except with MIT, you have to keep attribution and don't hold the author liable

WTFPL sounds like a less 'safe' version of MIT because you can still be held liable for any damages the derivative work causes

the MIT is the default licence for node works for a reason

Simon André Forsberg

@Phrancis I don't even consider that a serious license.

A Red Herring

@SimonAndréForsberg neither would I.

I don't think it would hold up in a court of law

Simon André Forsberg

4:10 PM

@ARedHerring GPL? Hell no.

A Red Herring

@SimonAndréForsberg I'm not saying it should be GPL

just that it would be a viable project for GPL

Simon André Forsberg

sure ^^

Phrancis

@SimonAndréForsberg I think that's kind of the idea behind it, ironically :)

A Red Herring

like, if I wrote a game server for WoW and open sourced it

I would probably release it under either Apache or GPL because I woudln't want people commercialising it (i.e, Blizzard)

but if I made a utility library a la lodash, GPL would essentially be suicide because GPL ensures you basically can't use it in any closed source work (i.e, nearly every corporate app)

jacwah

You can still commercialize those

Look at Ubuntu for instance

A Red Herring

4:12 PM

OK, fine, you can commercialize it, but I don't know many companies who would be eager to open source their "trade secret" so to speak

Ubuntu is the exception because it relies on open source development to actually, well, be developed

jacwah

There are some companies that open source part of their libraries and such

Like Google, Twitter etc

A Red Herring

Google especially - Angular, for example.

Speaking of Twitter, anyone else excited for ~~Boobstrap~~ Bootstrap 4?

Phrancis

@ARedHerring Whoa, when is that coming out?

A Red Herring

@Phrancis it's in alpha now

Phrancis

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-- (135 row(s) affected)
-- (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Simon André Forsberg

4:15 PM

Did Google make Angular?

A Red Herring

@SimonAndréForsberg yes

> AngularJS (commonly referred to as "Angular") is an open-source web application framework maintained by Google and by a community of individual developers and corporations to address many of the challenges encountered in developing single-page applications

well, yes andno, I suppose.

They didn't come up with the idea but they are part of the reason why it has such a huge userbase now

And I believe employees of Google maintain it