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12:01 AM
@AlanMunn I finally upvoted it. :) It's a very nice answer, and I'm sure you'll get this badge soon enough. :)
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9:30 AM
I'm tempted to run away, very quickly.
9:40 AM
9:51 AM
@PauloCereda, that's horrible...
@wh1t3 I know, I know. Bear with me, it's Monday.
Excuse me, but do people really think that other people change their compiler just because one minor problem is easier fixed with it?
A: National characters in URLs not working with hyperref

Andrey VihrovWorks with XeLaTeX: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{polyglossia} \usepackage{hyperref} \setdefaultlanguage{danish} \begin{document} \url{http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Åben_mængde} \end{document} Compile with xelatex. See these questions for more information on XeTeX.

There are several thing which don't work with XeLaTeX but with PDFLaTeX. You hardly switch between them for no good reason, especially for longer, existing documents.
10:47 AM
@MartinScharrer The OP need not accept this answer if it is not suitable. Nonetheless he and the question readers will know there is a way not to struggle with such "minor" language problems, which might add up and become the reason to switch.
@AndreyVihrov The answer could have been phrased a little better, not just "Works with XeLaTeX:".
do links to questions and answers automatically transform into that layout btw?
@MartinScharrer I will handle it differently.
@wh1t3 yes, see the "help" link in the lower right corner
ah, there's a help button, disregard that
10:50 AM
@wh1t3 too late :)
darn it :)
11:32 AM
@MartinScharrer No, but they probably change for lots of little reasons and this might be one of them. Moreover, someone stumbling on this question might not notice that it is specific to pdflatex, whence the comment "works in xelatex" is useful. Perhaps as a comment (as it now is) instead of an answer, but that's as much a matter of space as anything else.
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12:39 PM
@JosephWright: 21 rep points for 30k!
@PauloCereda Not any more
@JosephWright Congratulations!
30009... I thought we should freeze @JosephWright at 29999 because it looks cool
@egreg yay!
... for a short period of time, of course
Congrats @JosephWright! :)
Now people, it's time for us to watch @egreg hit 40k!
Two more credit cards than the normal trusted user!
12:46 PM
I am getting closer to my first tag-badge!
@Patrick Which one?
LuaTeX, but don't dare to help me out, I have to do hard labor for it :)
@egreg has 2^10 answers!
@Patrick I wish I could, I'm out of votes (again). Only tomorrow. :)
@Patrick Really! I should stop here.
Or maybe not; I'll think to it at 3^10. :)
better 2^11 or 2^12 answers.
12:49 PM
"Daily vote limit reached; vote again in 11 hours." - Damn.
I count with hands and head, so in base 3.
1:09 PM
Regarding hyphenation:
Q: LaTeX Hyphenation

Saravanan.OCould you please guide me to load the oxford dictionary in LaTeX. I am using MikTeX 2.5 with \usepackage[english]{babel}. Yes i need to load the oxford dictionary hyphenation patten in LaTeX ..

my guess is that the hyphenation files are pre-loaded in the sense that they are compiled into the latex .fmt file. Is that right?
My guess is based on the fact that \listfiles doesn't list them.
@AndrewStacey Yes. Unless you use LuaTeX.
@Patrick Thanks. It got a bit confusing reading through the babel files looking for where the hyphenation stuff was actually loaded.
I think it's hyphen.cfg together with language.dat.
@AndrewStacey Yes, with TeX, pdfTeX and XeTeX the hyphenation patterns are loaded at format creation; the initial message lists always all the loaded pattern files.
@egreg The babel part of the message you get is rather confusing
People sometimes complain 'but I am not loading babel'
1:14 PM
(gotta leave now. It's my son's birthday to day and I want to play with ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41fhmcrIMjL._SL500_AA300_.jpg - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrera_(slot_car_brand) )
@AndrewStacey MiKTeX used to be very conservative about them and loaded only American English, French, German and New German patterns. There are innumerable messages on forums about "No hyphenation patterns loaded".
@JosephWright Polyglossia acts differently: if patterns for a language are unknown, it resorts to no hyphenation, rather than using AmEnglish patterns. That's a change I proposed to F. Charette.
@JosephWright Some parts of babel are always loaded (hyphen.cfg)
@egreg Yes, that was my point - putting 'babel' in the log is perhaps slightly misleading
(I have some LaTeX3 worries about this)
@JosephWright It can be confusing, I agree. The loaded part doesn't change features with respect to a "non babel" LaTeX format, apart defining the infrastructure on which babel hooks if babel.sty is loaded.
The "Babel <v. 3.8m>" bit is on line 51 of hyphen.cfg.
It might be sensible to change the message to list only the loaded hyphenation patterns and, perhaps, telling that "LaTeX is ready for Babel <v3.8m>" or something like this.
1:35 PM
@egreg: 8
@MartinScharrer 29; but I'm quite confident I'll reach 40000 rep before your deserved Legendary badge.
@egreg Well, that's only 800 rep to go, which isn't that difficult in 8 days! :-P
@egreg: You are under 10k away from me now. I can remember the time it was 15k!
@MartinScharrer It took me 4 ~ 5 months to get 800 rep. :)
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2:50 PM
@MartinScharrer I sent you and @JosephWright the draft of the paper for the TUG 2011 proceedings.
@StefanKottwitz Thanks!
3:18 PM
This answer makes me wonder where LyX is really useful and easier than pure LaTeX
A: Color text in Lyx?

Torbjørn T.Select the text you wish to change the colour of, right click on it, and choose Text style --> Customized. Here you can choose among other things the colour.

Well, (one of) the idea(s) of LaTeX is to separate content from presentation. So the use of a WYSIWYG editor has never really been clear to me.
4:17 PM
@egreg LyX is the Windows of the LaTeX world: it aims to hide the inner workings of the system from the user as much as possible, and thereby ends up confusing many of them. Of course, there are skilled LyX users, just as there are skilled Windows users, but in my experience, for naive users both are a bad idea.
I was sitting in on a colleague's stats class (which uses R) and it took about 15 minutes for the Windows users to figure out how to get the dataset they downloaded for the class into the working directory for R. The Mac and Linux users got it instantly.
4:43 PM
hehe... I didn't know there was a maximum number of usable votes per day, and a badge for using them! Now I'll have to wait to up-vote some questions/answers.
@GonzaloMedina Good, I've reached rep cap. :)
I finally wrote a small package to create normal figures more easily: bitbucket.org/martin_scharrer/easyfig
So just say \Figure[<options>]{<filename>}
I just uploaded it to CTAN.
At the moment it is only for single image figures. I'm planning to add support for 1x2 and 2x1 images as well.
5:10 PM
@MartinScharrer Will the package incorporate the feature for images spanning two pages that you gave as an answer to a question here some time ago?
@GonzaloMedina At the moment is only aims to make the most common form easier, i.e. shorter.
I might add more complex solutions in a later version.
5:41 PM
TeXPrinter 2 is up! I did a new showcase.
@AlanMunn Tag badges are awarded once a day, about 2am GMT.
@lockstep Thanks. But I still need to answer two more biblatex questions for the biblatex tag badge. I just have to hope that questions come up when you're asleep. :-)
@AlanMunn Better watch out for Audrey. ;-)
@MartinScharrer This seems to be similar in spirit to the ctable package for tables. Personally I've never seen the advantage of that style of markup.
@lockstep Yes, I learn a lot from both of you.
@PauloCereda I've seen the showcase - that's great!
5:55 PM
@StefanKottwitz Thanks! :)
@StefanKottwitz It still has some bugs, but at least it's better than the previous versions. ;)
@PauloCereda Now I realized that your software is capable of producing TeX output, I did not see that before. Wonderful!
@StefanKottwitz I managed to download the images too. Sometimes you end up with a non-compilable document (due to some bad HTML parsing), but in general it helps a lot. :)
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@JosephWright you are quicker than me ;-)
@JosephWright I don't know what to say. Thanks a lot! :)
@StefanKottwitz :-)
I hope @PauloCereda will present it in a post on tex.blogoverflow.com
@StefanKottwitz Luckily there is no voting for blogs (although you did win an award, I think)
7:55 PM
@JosephWright: I like the book idea, we could come up with some sort of proceedings structure. :)
@StefanKottwitz Sure, I can. :)
@PauloCereda Have you thought of grabbing questions based on a tag, for example?
@JosephWright That's a great idea! It would be nice to have this feature. :)
@Joseph: suggestions for the next version names are welcome. :)
Current version is because of Bruno and his epic cake (Frank Mittelbach showed a photo of him with a big cake!).
8:50 PM
I was searching about (David) Hilbert and Google suggested me a uhm... Pokémon trainer instead of the mathematician.
9:39 PM
@PauloCereda He's built a career.
@egreg Ah! :)
@PauloCereda As a mathematician he was underpaid; as a Pokémon trainer he's got a very good salary. :)
@egreg I wonder which Pokémons he had. :P
9:57 PM
@PauloCereda I should ask my sister's kids. :)
@egreg How nice! Do they play that game? :)

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