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1:30 AM
This question seems to be off-topic; I don't see a direct connection with (La)TeX: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/32197/…
 
@GonzaloMedina I agree- Could we move it to another SX site instead of closing it though?
 
@Canageek Maybe Moderators can. I'll flag it.
 
@GonzaloMedina I already did.
 
@Canageek The more flags, the better ;-)
 
1:46 AM
@GonzaloMedina Thanks for pointing that out! I got a bage from flagging it! :D
@GonzaloMedina I also answered it, kinda.
 
 
4 hours later…
5:45 AM
About 2 hours and 30 minutes left until my TUG presentation starts and will be broadcasted on river-valley.tv/broadcasting
 
5:59 AM
@StefanKottwitz cool
 
Of course the video later on will be better, post-processed and synchronized with the original PDF presentation
 
 
1 hour later…
7:25 AM
Is everyone ready for the main event at TUG2011: @StefanKottwitz's talk :-)
 
7:47 AM
About 20 minutes to go
 
@JosephWright waiting for the others to return from lunch
 
@StefanKottwitz In the dark (or is that just how the live stream looks)!
 
It's probably offline in the lunch break, or the cam is off
 
8:14 AM
Hi everyone, this was migrated to us from SO by mistake I think - is it on topic here?
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Q: Usinf \ref in moderncv class

I have use the \ref function to make an internal ref to another section with \label and \ref{} but my ref is unvisible but clickable. Someone has the same problem?? Thanx in Advance

 
@Ninefingers it is on topic
 
@NN Yup, migrate to us
 
@JosephWright Done, it should be with you.
 
8:39 AM
my former message was on screen in India!
 
Am I too late?
 
he's still talking
he showed the site in real time and also visited the chat
 
noooooooooooooooooo
 
it was like 5 min ago
he's making a comparison of SX to other infrastructure atm
 
I was ready for the chicken dance. :(
ssshhh Windows.
SQL Server.
wave to the camera, Stefan!
ah.
 
8:53 AM
Could the voice be heard via live stream?
 
Congrats, @StefanKottwitz!
Loud and clear!
 
@PauloCereda: What's the live stream URL?
 
@MartinScharrer river-valley.tv/broadcasting/
 
@PauloCereda Thanks!
 
This is a great day for our community. :)
 
8:56 AM
One of these stream software which grabs the screen would have been great.
They usually display the screen and then a small camera window from the speaker.
 
River Valley will publish videos.
 
@StefanKottwitz Yes, I heard about that. It is great!
 
There are three cameras here, pointing at screen and at the speaker
permanently recording
 
@StefanKottwitz BTW, nice T-shirt! :)
 
oh, could you see that well?
 
8:58 AM
@StefanKottwitz during the question, they zoomed you. :)
 
I was like "Yay Stefan!!!"
 
screenshot ..? ;-)
 
I have to participate next year!
 
oh sorry, I wasn't fast enough.
We'd love to see your presentation again. :)
@MartinScharrer yay Martin!
 
9:07 AM
Btw. I guess I will have to blog post the review of day 3 tomorrow, because I'm flying soon today.
 
@StefanKottwitz Don't worry. Thanks a lot for your effort in going there! :)
 
@MartinScharrer Boston is doable, I think, for quite a lot of people. Let's hope the date is fixed early
 
@JosephWright Indeed. Even I'm considering it.
 
@PauloCereda Great!
 
I'll probably annoy Gonzalo too for us to go - bigger south american participation. :P
well, on a second thought, if I go, it will still be the biggest south american participation. Ouch.
 
9:23 AM
@PauloCereda Sounds good: a big turn out of real users would be great, I think
@PauloCereda Same here: work to do :-(
 
Can we get two more reopen votes on this question:
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Q: Braid diagrams in TikZ

Jamie Vicary Possible Duplicate: How to make nice braids diagrams I need to use TikZ to draw some braid diagrams. These will be built from families of curves, which appear to cross over each other in places. At each crossing, it needs to be obvious which line is going over which, and so I'm using t...

The questioner has clarified that the type of diagram is not what my braids package does (technically, this is a tangle, not a braid!). Whilst it is similar to the knot question, and it may well be that the knot stuff will work for him, there is an unanswered question about drawing a path on several layers which is an alternative way to do these knot diagrams which might prove useful.
 
voted @AndrewStacey
 
Whoa! Forgot that I had the volume right up to hear Stefan's talk and the beep I just got frightened the life out of me!
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@JosephWright Agreed. IMHO we can grow a bigger and better TeX community with real users interacting. I have high hopes on Stefan's keynote effects. :)
Also, yesterday, Didier Verna said that if you don't collaborate, you won't go anywhere. :)
 
@Raphink Thanks (and to whoever cast the fifth)
 
9:37 AM
Has anyone received their swag package yet?
 
@Raphink Not yet
 
recurring mumble: that swag package...
 
9:55 AM
@Raphink Perhaps a delay in production. Even the swag for the conference, T-Shirts and a lot of Pens and Stickers arrived yesterday in my hotel here, just in time. TeX.SX stickers came earlier.
 
I heard someone asking this in the audience (I'm pretty sure it was about the infrastructure):
Posted by Jeff Atwood on September 21st, 2008

This question keeps coming up a lot on Stack Overflow for some reason:

What was Stack Overflow built with?

Some even wondered if Stack Overflow was built in Ruby on Rails. I consider that a compliment!

This question has been covered in some detail in our podcasts, of course, but I know not everyone has time to listen to a bunch of audio footage to find the answer to their question. So, in that spirit, here’s the technology “stack” of Stack Overflow, the stuff Jarrod, Geoff, and I used to build it: …

 
@PauloCereda It was Kaveh, the main organizer of the TUG
@PauloCereda I told him then about Windows Server and SQL
 
@StefanKottwitz Ah cool. :)
 
He likes Wordpress much, as a capable Content Management System, he will look at TeX.SX how it works there
 
@StefanKottwitz great! You did an awesome job, I think sooner or later we'll see the effects of your keynote. :)
 
10:08 AM
The newest user comes from India, we can see in the user list sorted by creation date.
Registered I mean, as we don't see just browsing TUG participants.
 
cool!
 
10:46 AM
Is it ok to write comments such as I did in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/32226/… to inform people with low or 0 acceptance %?
 
10:57 AM
@NN I'd say so. I don't know when SE starts to display the acceptance percentage, but six answered questions seem to require some action.
 
@egreg Seconded. :) BTW, I think the accept percentage appears from the 4th or 5th question on.
@egreg: the GuIT website is so polished and beautiful. :)
 
For anyone bothered by getting duplicate email alerts on subscribed tags when they overlap: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/98046/…
 
11:15 AM
Just when I am only 7 days away from receiving the {Fanatic} badge, I have to go to another country for a few days and I doubt I will be able to log in to tex.sx then. D'oh!
 
@AndreyVihrov have a friend login for you (yes, you have to be fanatic got get the Fanatic badge)
 
@AndreyVihrov Ask a friend just to visit the site. You really deserve this badge. :)
On a sidenote, @JosephWright's "uptime" is more than 365 consecutive days.
 
@PauloCereda I've visited from day one, but was in Germany on holiday for a week, and my log in was unreliable. So I've visited every day, but the system has missed a couple.
 
@JosephWright Ah I see. :)
Currently I have 215 days, 181 consecutive. :)
Does anybody want a paçoquinha? It's a brazilian peanut candy. :)
 
11:46 AM
@AndreyVihrov I bought a UTMS key and roaming access in France just to complete the 100 days. :)
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MSO had this picture shown when being down: sstatic.net/stackoverflowmeta/img/offline-meta-means-murder.png
 
@egreg Then you earned Fanatic rightfully.
 
@egreg how nice!
 
@NN It seems a hacker attack.
 
12:15 PM
Now Google is correcting my spilling.
 
@AndreyVihrov I had a similar experience. After 90 consecutive days, I went to Switzerland for a two week hiking trip.
 
@PauloCereda It's your browser, not Google.
 
@AndreyVihrov Really? It never happened before.
 
@JosephWright, or @MartinScharrer, or @StefanKottwitz: Could one of you unfreeze the "From Answer to Packages" room for me?
 
12:41 PM
@PauloCereda Mission accomplished. :)
 
@egreg Great! How many days now?
 
@JosephWright: Pretty please?
 
@PauloCereda 40
 
@egreg yay! Martin is probably close too. :)
 
 
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1:50 PM
@PauloCereda 14days left
 
 
1 hour later…
3:17 PM
Have homeworks finally reached tex.sx?
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Q: Change the behavior of carriage return

mecoley stephinDefine an enhance verse environment, where stroke Carriage return key once make a \\, twice make a \par, three times make a \medskip, four times and more make a \bigskip. An example would be: \begin{enhanceverse} The furthest distance in the world Is not between life and death But when I stand ...

 
3:32 PM
@AndreyVihrov I'm afraid so. :)
 
@AndreyVihrov From the language used it sounds like a homework, but it might be just the English skills of the OP.
Anyway it was fun coding it. :-)
 
3:47 PM
@AndreyVihrov If that's true, I'd be surprised. I wonder how many actual courses are on TeX or have a TeX component that has real homework? (Even though the question certainly sounds like a homework.)
 
@AlanMunn Yeah, I think the same way.
 
@PauloCereda If you click on the picture beside the search box, Google will explain its choice. It's an homage to Mary Blair, an animator at Disney. (So it is Google, not your browser.)
 
@AlanMunn Cool, I didn't know her. :)
 
4:08 PM
Soon it will be Christmas!
25 Dec = 31 Oct. (Geek alert)
 
4:19 PM
@PauloCereda Groan.
 
@AlanMunn I know I know. :)
 
4:36 PM
@MartinScharrer: Can you unfreeze the "From Answers to Packages" room, please?
 
It's froxen. :)
 
What is the benefit of freezing chat rooms, anyway?
 
@AndreyVihrov Housekeeping?
It's automatic.
 
4:58 PM
@AndrewStacey Done!
@AndreyVihrov They save heating costs of course!
 
@MartinScharrer Thanks!
 
Could they have added any more puns to this headline: nytimes.com/2011/10/21/business/…
 
I like this user's stackoverflow.com/users/116622 name. It looks nice in posts.
Since starting to try out emacs I'm curious about people's .emacs. Anyone care to share theirs?
 
5:14 PM
@AlanMunn They could have added something about "in light of..."
 
@MarcoDaniel: As the user deleted the question, I can't leave a comment there so am doing so here. (I hope you see this, I don't know if this will work!) The phrase "What is your problem?" has a bit of a negative connotation in English. It's a bit hard to explain, but "What is your question?" is much better.
@AlanMunn That's a bit of a shame, really. My first digital camera was a Kodak and it's still going strong 8 years later. (Should that have an apostrophe?)
@NN Happy to, but it ain't pretty.
 
@AndrewStacey I won't understand half of it so don't worry!
just make sure it's properly indented and well commented ;)
This might interest those of you who have played with the data tool:
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Q: Is It Possible To Quantify The Quality Of Questions Over Time?

John DiblingWithout getting in to a rant, it appears to me (and others) that the quality of questions being asked on StackOverflow has greatly diminished. I'm curious if there has been any attempt to take a critical look at this by quantifying the questions asked on SO over time? No attempt to do this woul...

@AndrewStacey how to transfer the file? I could post a temp email in chat
 
; figure out our local machine nickname
;(setq machine-nickname
; (with-temp-buffer
; (apply 'call-process "~/bin/nickname" nil t nil nil)
; (skip-chars-backward "\n")
; (buffer-substring (point-min) (point))
; )
; )

; enable the harrowing narrowing commands
(put 'narrow-to-region 'disabled nil)

(setq default-major-mode 'text-mode)

(setq ispell-dictionary "british")

(global-set-key "\M-g" 'goto-line)

; these two really annoy me!

(global-set-key "\M-v" 'nil)
(global-set-key "\C-v" 'nil)
@NN: There you go!
I have a couple of extra customisation files. One is .emacs.local which is machine-dependent but just does a bit of customisation (fonts, background images).
The other is .tex.emacs which is where my tex-specific stuff goes.
;(server-start)
;(load "xdvi-search.el")

(setq latex-block-names '("theorem" "corollary" "proof" "lemma" "defn" "thm"))
;(setq tex-dvi-view-command
; (if (eq window-system 'x) "xdvi" nil))
;(setq tex-dvi-print-command "dvips -Pmirkti *")
(setq tex-alt-dvi-print-command "dvips * -ta4 -o")

(defcustom tex-output-type "pdf"
"*Default output type for TeX jobs."
:type '(radio (const :tag "Postscript" "ps")
(const :tag "Postscript (rv)" "psrv")
(const :tag "PDF" "pdf")
(const :tag "PDF (write18)" "pdf18")
The key thing in that one is that by using a local variable (tex-output-type) I can tell emacs which type of tex to call (pdflatex, xelatex, latex, etc) and with which options (write18, for example) and whether to do any post-processing (dvips, for example).
 
5:31 PM
ok, thanks for sharing
 
(Seemed easier than random email addresses!)
 
indeed, others may be curious too
 
@AndrewStacey It works and I read it. Thanks for the explanation.
 
Wah! We got another CSS question!
 
@MartinScharrer Get used to it. LaTeX3!
 
5:46 PM
@NN Why? Does LateX3 support CSS? :-P
Maybe even CSS3
 
@MartinScharrer Joseph has mentioned that they're gonna do some separation of structure and design like the one between html and css.
 
@MartinScharrer Should a Web page have "the unmistakable LaTeX aspect"? I'd shout "NO"!
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@MarcoDaniel I'm wondering about your request for deletion here: tex.stackexchange.com/q/31978/4483
 
@egreg Let's shout together then!
 
@MarcoDaniel I tried getting the question clarified, but it just seems to be getting less clear. Not sure if deleting is the solution, though.
 
5:50 PM
@Audrey He can't edit his question. Thats the reason. The question can be marked as duplicated (see your comment ;-) )
 
haha
 
@MarcoDaniel He's edited a couple times. It isn't a duplicate as far as I can tell.
 
@Audrey Ok. With the comments of this question you can wrote a small book ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Who can't edit the question?
@MarcoDaniel Yeah, it already got the "More than 20 comments posted in the past 3 days" flag.
 
@MartinScharrer The OP wrote Because the number of my reputation is not so many and I thought it was related to the question: Could you edit your question to provide a concrete example
 
5:56 PM
@MarcoDaniel Well, he meant he can't include images yet. That wasn't about editing the post.
And this wouldn't change with a new question as well.
 
@MartinScharrer Ah ok but now I am confused (verwirrt) -- Maybe he should open a new question we only one problem. In this way it is easer for all participants ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Yeah, the comments are out of hand. I could eventually find some time to give answer to the question as-is. But the solution would have all those limitations we came across in henrique's question. (Until maybe Philipp implements the citation command in the verbose styles.)
 
@Audrey I know Philipp will expand the verbose-style in version 1.7.
 
@MarcoDaniel Good to know. I'm also wanting to bother you about this question: tex.stackexchange.com/q/32151/4483. Dots can come from entry data or be generated by \setunit, \newunit, \adddot, etc. Seems like the only way to solve it would be to work on the fully expanded citation output. Is that possible?
 
6:23 PM
@Audrey Nice question. I hadn't read this.
 
@MarcoDaniel Yeah. I was hoping it'd be one you could solve.
 
Hi all! I am not so sure what to do with the following question:
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Q: Option unicode=true with hyperref

PatrickIs there a drawback when using the option unicode=true with the package hyperref and the engines PDFTeX, XeTeX and LuaTeX? In other words, can a portable document always have \usepackage[unicode=true]{hyperref}?

I think I'll give the bounty to @MartinScharrer, but it does not really totally absolutely answer my question (I believe only Heiko could do that). Any advise from someone?
Perhaps it's a bad/stupid question? Not appropriate? Don't know.
 
@Patrick You shouldn't us it as package option because this can cause option clashes.
Use \hypersetup instead.
 
@MartinScharrer OK, but even then - can I use it without thinking about it (except for the problem you mention)?
 
6:38 PM
@Patrick Are you talking about a document or a package which uses it?
 
@MartinScharrer A document.
I would like to have a document that compiles with PDFTEX, XeTeX and LuaTeX
The question is: can I tell users: "just always write \hypersetup{unicode=true} and you are on the safe side"?
(except for the bug, but that will be gone one day, I hope)
 
@Patrick While you're here, Patrick, I had a question about LuaTeX: can standard font packages (e.g. mathptmx, tipa) be used with LuaTeX or do you have to use fontspec to access fonts?
I know that fontspec is probably preferable, the question is more about compatibility.
 
@AlanMunn I'd try the standard (PDFTeX) way first.
Only if you have problems or you want to setup something from scratch, then I would think about fontspec
But I don't know for example much about unicode math (never used it) - this is a completely different approach and needs someone else to answer :)
 
@Patrick So every (utf8 encoded) document that compiles with pdftex will also compile with luatex with no changes (except maybe taking out inputenc)?
 
Well it should, but there are some packages that are (I don't know why) not compatible with LuaTeX.
I once tried to compile Herbert Voß' mathmode document on ctan with LuaTex and it failed miserably (but made 80% of the pages without complaining, so I don't really know if there is only one bug that had to be solved or more)
I think the culprit (?) was the bm package (for bold math).
 
6:46 PM
@Patrick Ok, maybe I'll turn this into a full question. I'm starting to use luatex more and more because it seems to offer the best of both the pdftex and xetex worlds all with one engine. But I'm not entirely sure what the limits are.
 
I'd give it a try and see what it does.
LuaTeX's "destroy the computer" routine has been disabled in beta 0.35.
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@Patrick LOL!
 
Tada!
 
7:11 PM
@AlanMunn Let me know when microtype works with it and I'll switch to LuaTex
 
@Audrey He my first try. In this way I start my tests ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel I was wondering if this question could be answered using your mdframed package

http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/32276/page-break-table-with-single-cell
 
7:34 PM
@Canageek I must confess that I've never bothered with microtype, so you probably won't hear it from me.
 
@Canageek Which part of microtype? If I am correct, font expansion and margin protrusion already works.
 
@Patrick What else does microtype do? I thought it also improved the kerning and hypenation rules? I just notice then when I use it things look nicer and I get less hyphens. I can load up the manual again (I did read it once)
 
@Canageek Letterspacing does not work correctly with fontspec/microtype (or, I don't know, only with luaotflaod/microtype, but from a user's perspective its the same).
 
@NN (and @AndrewStacey, who always come up with cool ideas from the available data): data.stackexchange.com/tex/s/1984/…
 
@PauloCereda cool, so there is a five-fold increase of questions asked between march and april 2010 - awesome growth rate, isn't it?
 
7:42 PM
@cmhughes Well you can use the framemethod=default with only leftline true and the modify the output of leftline via preto.
 
@PauloCereda Have to check the top-secret mod-only graphs ... just a second.
 
@Patrick indeed! :)
 
@PauloCereda What strikes me about that dataset is that someone managed to ask a question in 2008 - two years before the site opened! I'm curious as to what the posts pre-August 2010 were.
 
@MartinScharrer Ah nice to hear... WAIT A MINUTE, what top-secret mod-only grahps?! :-P
 
@Patrick Is there a FAQ on LuaTeX and microtype? I keep hearing conflicting things on 'it works' 'it doesn't' and 'it does, but is buggy as heck'
 
7:44 PM
@AndrewStacey True! I'll try to find this pearl.
 
Sorry, pre-July 2010. Though we were mid-to-late July for starting, I think.
 
@Canageek Not that I am aware of. If you only use expansion / protrusion, and if you have a recent distribution, then I would just use it.
 
@AndrewStacey Can it be some old question that was migrated here?
 
@Patrick I typically also use the extra kerning, will have to compile something w/ and w/o and see how mutch that matters.
I wonder if 'How do I keep up with LaTeX improvements such as LaTeX3 and LuaTeX' would be a good question?
 
@Canageek Except it mixes up LuaTeX with LaTeX!
 
Given that we've only just lapped, I don't think that comparing a month in the first year with the corresponding month a year later is so useful so I've reordered by year-then-month: data.stackexchange.com/tex/q/115570/…
 
They are more general 'TeX developments'
 
this looks "fine" to me:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\usepackage[stretch=100,shrink=100]{microtype}
\begin{document}

\hsize 2in

When, while the lovely valley teems with vapour around me, and the meridian sun strikes the upper surface of the impenetrable
foliage of my trees, and but a few stray gleams steal into the inner sanctuary, I throw myself down among the tall grass by the
trickling stream; and, as I lie close to the earth, a thousand unknown plants are noticed by me.
 
@JosephWright 'How do I keep up with developments in the TeX world such as LaTeX3 and LuaTeX'
 
@PauloCereda Psst, you heard nothing! ;-)
Ha ha, latex tilde is the most frequent search query which leads people to us!
 
7:53 PM
@JosephWright By 'LaTeX' I mean the code I'm writing, and improvements are anything that makes it easier to write or produces a better looking end product.
 
@AndrewStacey Thanks, makes way more sense. Sometimes, I get stuck with our DD/MM/YYYY. :)
 
I just saw that the graduation of TeX.SX was on 2010/11/11, so 2011/11/11 would be also an anniversary (which is also my names-day btw.)
 
@PauloCereda I've gotten used to YYYY-MM-DD as a fairly agnostic date format.
 
@MartinScharrer Also Remembrance Day.
 
@Patrick @PauloCereda: In December we had about 20 Q + 40 A and now we have about 35 Q + 60-65 A per "7 day average"
@Canageek Oh, not in Germany. We have a day like this always two Sundays before the first advent.
 
8:00 PM
@Canageek In commonwealth countries. In the US it's called Veterans Day, but doesn't have the same function.
 
@AlanMunn What on earth is Veterans Day about then? I see it on calendars, but always figured it was the same thing.
 
@Patrick So more related to those still alive, then those who died.
 
@Canageek thats my impression too. But I am not an US expert (and tired, so I go to sleep now)
 
8:06 PM
@AlanMunn Interesting that it is a holiday in the US- In Canada it isn't, to prevent it from becoming a thing to celebrate.
 
@Canageek In Germany it is by definition always on a Sunday, so the holiday question never appears.
Back to LaTeX:
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A: Historical, stable version archive of packages

Martin ScharrerI'm actually working on an archive of CTAN using automated Mercurial repositories for the last two weeks. The CTAN content is mirrored daily and each CTAN package (with exceptions) is committed to its own Mercurial repository. This is currently online as http://ctanhg.scharrer-online.de/, but no...

I now created a facebook page for the CTANHG website:
 
@MartinScharrer We've never a holiday in the UK for Remembrance Day - it's not that kind of event
 
Sounds like I should stick with PDFTeX for the foreseeable future: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/3094/drawbacks-of-xetex-luatex/…
 
I don't know any of those holidays. We don't have them here. :(
 
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Q: PDF software with "multiple document (in one window) interface"

Leon LampretWhen I study, I often need to have many books open at the same time, so I can search simultaneously. Having 20 diferent Adobe Acrobat windows open, however, is highly impractical, and things often crash. When viewing DJVUs with for example WinDJView, I can have all the files open in a single win...

 
8:10 PM
@MarcoDaniel Sorry for the delay. I'm afraid I didn't understand- you said one could modify leftline via preto?
 
Should that really be a TeX.SX questions? I answered it, but feel like it should be moved to a different site- It has been flagged as such, but no response since yesterday.
 
@PauloCereda You missed the 20th century European wars
 
@JosephWright Indeed. :)
 
@Canageek I agree
 
@Canageek Clearly off-topic: I'm going to close
 
8:12 PM
@JosephWright There isn't a TeX.SX site that that would be an appropriate question for? Or do we just close it?
 
@Canageek Maybe SuperUser?
 
@Canageek Agreed. :) (I just differ with your opinion of MDI interfaces) :)
 
@PauloCereda I'm using a very strict MDI definition- One main window, many internal windows inside it. So GIMP & Firefox would not count.
@PauloCereda Would be interested in discussing it later, but I have to run now- someone waiting.
 
@Canageek I noticed that, don't worry. ;)
@Canageek My only restriction was due to outdated term, but I usually stick with tabbed interfaces. Few clients ask me for a MDI interface. :)
We want to see Stefan on TV again!
 
@cmhughes I answered.
 
8:20 PM
We have a good speaker for next year's event: Martin Scharrer. :)
We were so lucky that I was not here when Stefan opened the chat live in his keynote. I was gonna sing a song.
 
@MarcoDaniel Cool, nice answer! And nice package too :)
 
Is there a policy on up/down-voting off-topic questions?
 
@GonzaloMedina Don't vote below -1
Mainly, we just close
 
Anyone know what \pdfobj might be doing? There's a question where someone's having trouble installing the latest TikZ/PGF and looking at the logs, there's something not going right when loading the driver files. The relevant lines contain things like \pdfobj reserveobjnum \edef\pgf@sys@pdf@extgs@objnum{\the\pdflastobj} and I haven't a clue what that's about.
 
@JosephWright I was just curious, mainly because this question tex.stackexchange.com/questions/32224/… received 3 downvotes before being moved to other site, while this other tex.stackexchange.com/questions/32197/… received 1 upvote before being closed.
 
8:35 PM
Here's the link to the question: tex.stackexchange.com/q/30880/86
@GonzaloMedina Unfortunately, as with all of these such conventions, they aren't enforced or required. So we may refrain from voting below -1, but that doesn't mean that everyone who can vote will do the same.
 
@AndrewStacey I was about to say more or less the same thing
 
The only way to discourage excessive down-voting that I can think of is for the first person who voted down to leave a comment explaining why the down-vote. Then people might vote up the comment instead of voting down the question, especially if the comment is not actually all that negative.
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Hey @Gonzalo! :)
 
@AndrewStacey It's a low-level PDF-creating primitive
 
@JosephWright I see. I wondered about that. Now, looking at this person's logs, it seems as though it is eating the \edef because the error seems to be saying that \pgf@sys@pdf@extgs@objnum is undefined. Well of course it is! The statement is meant to be defining it! Any ideas on what might be happening there?
 
8:47 PM
@PauloCereda Hi, Paulo!
 
@AndrewStacey Which question?
 
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Q: Error including manually installed TikZ package

nw.I am trying to manually install tikz in my local texmf tree on my shell account at school. I simply unpacked the latest build to ~/texmf/tex and ran texhash. Now, trying to compile this simple document gives me an error: \documentclass[12pt]{article} \usepackage{tikz} \begin{document} TEST TE...

 
It's a very old installation (LaTeX kernel date 2001/06/01). Could be a support package problem or the age of the engine
I suspect his pdfTeX is too old to have the appropriate primitives
 
Ah, I did wonder about the age of the surrounding installation, but the line format=pdflatex 2010.5.8 fooled me. Presumably this was just when the pdflatex format was built.
The questioner says that they're using their "shell account at school" which is probably not updated often. Is there an easy test to see how old that is?
 
\showthe\pdftexversion
 
8:58 PM
@AndrewStacey pdflatex -v
 
 
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10:04 PM
@GonzaloMedina I also found that unnecessary to vote it down to -3. A simple comment explaining that this is the wrong site to ask XML questions and a pointer to the correct site would have been enough and the right thing to do.
I migrated it then and was released seeing that the -3 votes didn't got passed to the other site.
 
10:47 PM
I'll post a blog entry just to mention packages and tools from our site. Shouldn't boy scouts earn badges? We do have ours!
nowidow is so sad. :P
@StefanKottwitz: Awesome blog post! Speaking of text/math index, I remember I worked a little with Lucene in the past. Now that you mentioned it, I'm really curious to see advanced features of that engine. :)
 
@PauloCereda nowidow should be happy! Do you know how "widow lines" are called by German typographers?
 
@egreg I have no idea. :)
Do tell me. :)
 
11:11 PM
@PauloCereda A widow line is called "Hurenkind", literally "son of a b…". They don't like widow lines, do they? :)
 
@egreg really?! Oh my, the don't like widow lines! :)
 
11:23 PM
 
@egreg @PauloCereda What is a window line?
 
@Canageek if I'm not wrong, a widow line is that last line of a paragraph that appears lonely in the beginning of the next page. :)
 
@Canageek A line which has a past but no future.
 
@PauloCereda @egreg Ah, I was wondering. Your diagram made me think of an actual physical LINE.
 
@egreg wow, best definition ever. :)
 
11:34 PM
@PauloCereda I read it in Bringhurst
 
@egreg Cool, I found his book in Portuguese!
 

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