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12:26 AM
Oh cool.
DD-WRT works really well for fine-tuning network configuration.
> "Developer of desktop and web-based applications. Offers blog, downloadable tools, and development libraries."
Where does Google get this from?
I don't have anything like that on the page, including in <meta> tags.
12:53 AM
Hi there
I came late to the party :(
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"Firefox - saving lives since 2005."
But still, I brought my bullets :)
1:14 AM
well it worked!
@Lucio okay that is hilarious!
I was at a book store briefly today, flipping through several programming books. Head First books are usually my favourite, partially because of these:
oh, picture is still on my phone. oops ;)
I didn't want to break your thread
and yeah, head first books are awesome
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there we go!
really good stuff
haha, that is good
TreePopsUpOutOfNowhere :p
that reminds me of internet explorer toolbar :P
1:21 AM
Hey guys, I wanted to share a site with you
check it out
and whilst playing, think on me or somebody else who isn't english native ;)
lol the first one I clicked on was German >.>
nevermind :p
I'm like "I have no idea how this works.. oh sdfkjsdfl;kjsdf, it's German too."
@Lucio I know, that's kind of the point ;P
@Seth i did that on english too
1:28 AM
@Lucio haha
that is impossible for me
it is going to be fun to see how do you roll on that :)
I still have no idea how to use this :S
use TAB
Oh, it's PacMans's anniversary?
2:00 AM
mmm.. PacMan
I'm gonna go to eat
nice to see you guys! :)
haha, later!
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5:40 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Herbal Skin Care Tips For Fast Results by Simone Egger on askubuntu.com
6:29 AM
I made a logo for the new project.
Nothing brilliant... but it will work fine for now.
Shoot, mv -i does not work !
-i is supposed to be interactive, but instead it acts like regular mv
Does that work for others ? Please tell me it's not a bug with my binary
2 hours later…
8:09 AM
@Serg It's only supposed to be interactive when it's going to overwrite
$ touch test{1,2}
$ mv -i test1 test2
mv: overwrite ‘test2’? n
@Oli I guess that wasn't quite obvious
Thanks , though ! Now I feel stupid .. . I've send an email to coreutils -_-||
8:23 AM
@Fabby hey, you said to get your attention here
8:49 AM
@Hellreaver He may be having lunch, he's a little ahead of UTC
9:30 AM
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Proposed Q&A site for experts in installing and managing Ubuntu Touch

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10:11 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating words in answer: Ubuntu 14.04 Access point by user3592559 on askubuntu.com
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11:12 AM
Q: Bounty on a low-quality question when there is an own high-quality answer

Daniel AlderI asked a question for a problem which was (and is) very important for me. After 6 days of the 7 days period, I found a first solution and posted a very big and detailed answer for my own question. At the time when I was writing, another user posted a two-line question which is too much to be fla...

11:47 AM
Q: Why is this question off-topic?

GalgaleshThis question is from a user who is struggling using the android debugger tools on Ubuntu. Why is this off-topic? This isn't an android problem, this is a "how to do x on Ubuntu" problem where "x" just happens to be related to android... It's even answered...

Q: how can I install apk on Android avd?

Mohammed ElsayedI tried to install apk file but I can't. This image show one of my attempts: /home/drmohammed/workspace/android/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools/ bash: /home/drmohammed/workspace/android/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools/: Is a directory ./adb install'/home/drmohammed/workspace/android/androi...

12:45 PM
Ooh! I just got the great question golden badge! :)
1:26 PM
@ParanoidPanda gratz - you'll get used to it as you get more of them
Anybody here know how to debug themes for SDDM?
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@Tim: What is that?
@ParanoidPanda long story... an empty question
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like that ^^
it's a zero-space character. Can you copy this: ​​​​​ (there are quite a few in that code block) fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/200B/index.htm. I'd like this feature, but I understand why SE wouldn't specifically make this. Sorry! — ᔕᖺᘎᕊ May 16 at 21:36
I'm still very confused about it...
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@Tim Please remember to delete that.
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 3 mins ago, by PeterJ
What's with this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/627330/
1:40 PM
@terdon Will do, just testing some things for a few mins
Yes, we know that unicode blanks work on SE.
@terdon can you close vote?
@Tim Why can't you delete it?
@Tim I did but why? Why not just delete it? Why are you cluttering up the site with this kind of thing?
@muru deleted now
@terdon deleted now
1:47 PM
yay, my VLQ gets cashed
Sorry, guys, I would normally use a sock and a different site, but it's kinda blocked and I needed it closed, so it needed to be a popular site
Using a sock and a different site would make no difference. You would still be cluttering up the site and adding to the DB for no reason. Is this for your meta post about posting shorter comments (which is a bad idea, by the way)?
@terdon nope, this was seperate
2:04 PM
Q: Custom ubuntu install to enable wifi on inspiron-1501 w/o wired ethernet

LenBI am helping a small non-profit install ubuntu on some (40) donated inspiron's. To get wifi running I need to install some additional packages: b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer. I would like to create an install CD or USB stick that does not require a wired internet connection. Unfor...

Wow! A question on U&L actually correctly tagged with ! Will the wonders never cease?
2:42 PM
Q: how to add shortcut to ubuntu taskbar

Koorosh SadeghiI am using UBUNTU 14.04 with cinnamon desktop. After trying to create a shortcut for a PDF file to Cinnamon's Taskbar, I found maybe I should have searched for a folder containing the Taskbar's configuration information and create a launcher there. And by the way I don't know if I've guessed righ...

Apparently, they will. sigh

Proposed Q&A site for anyone who needs to be able to post test questions and answers (for example bug testing), without annoying others on meta sites.

Currently in definition.

2:58 PM
Q: How to use jobs command and view results

Koorosh SadeghiI am using Ubuntu 14.04 and I am trying to view the list of running jobs using the jobs command yet there is no results shown and when I enter "man jobs" the shell responds that there is no such command available. am I doing the wrong way to view job list? and if so what would be the solution to...

3:21 PM
@Mateo It is not my question, and I am probably as few into answering this as you are...
3:35 PM
CVs on 13.10 question here: askubuntu.com/q/627372/367990
I am the Rain God!
Hail me now! With lots of Hail (made of upvotes)! ;)
:D :P
@ParanoidPanda You're really starting to worry me kid...
3:41 PM
@terdon: You calling me a baby goat?
Wrong kid.
@ParanoidPanda Why goat? RPiAwesomeness is the goat. You're a Panda - or a sock.
@ByteCommander: A 'kid' is a baby goat.
A 'kid' is a child.
3:45 PM
Well, not according to DuckDuckGo! :D
@terdon @ByteCommander: Proof
PLaying chess now. Talking later.
@ByteCommander: Alright, kid! ;D :P
@ByteCommander: And you are right, a 'kid' is a child, but it is a child of a goat! :D
3:50 PM
@ByteCommander It's both. In the absence of context, a human child is assumed.
I am loosing.
@terdon: Assumed by humans, not goats or the rest of the animal kingdom though!
@ParanoidPanda Assumed by the species that speaks the language we're using, yes.
@terdon: But remember that you are talking to a panda here, so what do you think I assume? :P
3:54 PM
Oh, by the way, you are lucky you can't hear me right now, I've got a cold, and I'm singing alone to the Bee Gees!
4:10 PM
Hi, everyone.
What is the best Dock software in Ubuntu?
@xiaodongjie: Well, Unity has a pretty nice dock, but there is also Docky which provides a rather nice dock similar to the Mac OSX one.
ubuntu-dock is not?
Is that a package?
4:14 PM
It doesn't appear to be in any of the main repositories.
So I have no idea about it.
it's ubuntu's Dock.
@ParanoidPanda lol, you fell for that one - they are making that dock program ;p
That's right.
@Mateo: What?! Now I'm very confused...
4:17 PM
Which dock program?
Now I'm lost...
How is the development going @xiaodongjie
@Mateo it's version is already 1.0.0
4:18 PM
Well how was I to know that?!
@Tim oh yeah, there is a really awesome sandbox q/a on meta stack
Q: Formatting Sandbox

Ólafur Waage As per Jeff's suggestion in this comment: You can use this question as a formatting sandbox. You can edit this question itself (Community Wiki questions such as this one require 100 reputation to edit) post answers to this question (Since this question is protected, this requires earning 1...

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4:36 PM
@ParanoidPanda I have to wonder what is it you have against manpages.
That's the fourth question of yours I have answered straight from the manpage, isn't it?
@muru: I had a quick look in the manpage, and then I asked a friend who said that I should pipe it to another program and that I could not just use tree to do that, so I didn't really read the manpage that intently.
@Mateo: What are the strange lines?
unicode magic
How are they done?
4:41 PM
@muru: Teach me to practice this unicode magic! >:)
Oh, I'm a Templar, not a Mage. I'm shielded by having insufficient fonts. :D
@Mateo: So what's the secret of unicode magic?
Could somebody please just spill the magic beans!
It's sort-of accent character or something like that repeated a large number of times.
What you see in a single character's width is actually: ส<0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49>‌​<0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e‌​49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49>‌​<0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e‌​49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49><0e49>'
@ParanoidPanda laser beams ;p
4:52 PM
@Mateo You meant laser beans. :P ;)
:D :D :D
Try staring this: !‮ This post is seriously messed up now<
Ahh my name!
@ParanoidPanda here is a place for making some magic marlborotech.com/Zalgo.html
@ParanoidPanda which browser is that?
@Mateo FireFox, I would assume... Looks like mine.
5:05 PM
Ah, cool. They are fixing things
What needed a fix?
@Mateo: Yes, Firefox, why?
Looks like this here:
Firefox straightened them out :)
5:08 PM
Well, mobile vs. desktop.
Got to go. Bye!
Lol wonder how chrome desktop looks...
@Mateo: I went to that text generator thing, but when I pressed "Zalgo", it did nothing, what is it meant to do, or was I doing something wrong?
Does it run on JavaScript?
As that could be the problem...
I've got NoScript active here...
5:19 PM
Did you see the crazy text on the left
@Mateo: Maybe you could provide me with a screenshot? :)
As I can't seem to get this working...
Like all scrambled
๏ ץєคђ
@Mateo: Wow!
5:28 PM
Out of interest, why do people like this question so much?
Q: Terminal 'incognito mode'?

Paranoid PandaI use Terminal a lot, and sometimes I am running commands, which aren't things I don't want others to see, but more commands that if I accidentally arrowed up to and accidentally executed would cause a lot of trouble. So I am wondering if there is, or I can make, some sort of Terminal 'incognito...

Unexpected, and useful.
@Mateo: What, the upvotes, or the question?
5:41 PM
Because some people would be like "oh yeah, that could be useful, - never thought to ask myself"
Jul 1 '13 at 21:44, by M̦̙̬̿̌͒a͇̯̾͒̌͜t̖͚̥͆̀͝ȩ͔͔̂̏̓o
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^ that was epic...
@Mateo: Wow, how did you achieve that?
@Fabby: Where are you??? The close votes queue needs you! ;D
If more people work on it today it could get down to at least 200!
6:03 PM
@terdon Why?
By the way, why do lots of Moderators like to hang out in this chat? No problem with it (although I know that some others do :D ), but just wondering, because I thought that mostly all main chats would be the same, but looking at others, it doesn't seem to be so common.
Somebody actually made a homemade hoverboard and actually took off!
6:10 PM
Apparently there is a video on CNET which shows it.
Well, I would sure like to get me one of those! :D
@ParanoidPanda most of them also use this channel for helping with Ubuntu
6:27 PM
now I have 1 router on 2.4GHz and another on 5GHz \o/
I have one that does both at the same time :P
only since 2 weeks though :X
yeah well I couldn't afford one of those :P
Got the second for $5.
cheap :D
And the first was a modem + router so I couldn't afford to be picky that it didn't do simultaneous 2.4 + 5.
Then my neighbor set up a new one next to my house blaring at like a million watts >.>
6:30 PM
AND on my channel.
lots of interferance?
you betcha.
changing the channel helped some but it was still bad.
eew that's bad :D
So now I'm migrating most of the devices in the house over to 5GHz.
if that happens here we can call the cops :-X
6:31 PM
@Rinzwind Wait really?
That's crazy.
you are not allowed to interfere basic internet here
Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing ;P
I can't imagine someone calling the cops just because my router interfered with theirs..
Especially because if they knocked at my door I'm sure we could work it out :D
oh that's not it. If you kill all the internet connections in a couple of houses I meant
6:33 PM
(I have a shotgun right next to the door)
we are not allowed to have guns ;-)
@Rinzwind ohh. Well, that's different then.
@Rinzwind ....
yeah. like you are not allowed to have your own radio station using the airwaves.
I don't own one but I believe it is not a right the government has any right to take away.
but nowadays those people use the internet :D
@Seth I do :-)
6:36 PM
I live in Canada and I concur with @Seth.
(I do not own one; I believe government has that right >:-D )
@Rinzwind You trust your government? O_o
I see..
@NathanOsman that has NOTHING to do with it
@Rinzwind That doesn't even make sense. If you don't have the ability to bear arms, you've delegated that responsibility to someone else - the government in your case.
Therefore you implicitly trust them.
6:37 PM
@NathanOsman no. You have some twisted american logic there ;-)
I'm not American!
And you haven't pointed out any flaws in what I believe to be valid reasoning.
the ability of owning arms says nothing about the trust you have in a government
Except, it does.
Somebody has to defend you.
6:39 PM
@NathanOsman why?
It's either going to be you or someone else.
@Rinzwind Because there is evil in the world.
@NathanOsman sorry but in my 46 years life I never had any need for any gun.
@Rinzwind But the moment you do, it will be too late.
Look, I think it would be much better if we did not feel the need to bear arms, nor did our governments.
there is little to no evil in the Netherlands.
6:40 PM
@ParanoidPanda Me too - but such a world does not exist, so sticking our heads in the sand doesn't help.
Instead of arming the people, we should work on global disarmament.
@NathanOsman we survived 2 world wars ;-)
@ParanoidPanda ...and that is the exact opposite of what I am saying.
Here's the truth: evil people gonna be evil. They always have and always will have access to guns - the law is irrelevant to them. The rest of us (the law abiding ones) have a choice. We can either arm ourselves and limit the evil they can do or we can disarm ourselves and remain helpless.
Arming the people just means a civil war, or a mass school shoot out, is more likely to occur.
Thing is ... it is in our nature. We Dutch are merchants at heart. Not people that fight wars. We negotiate. During WW1 we kept out of it. Even though we are next to Germany. We made a deal to help their Kaiser (he spent most of his life in Holland).
6:43 PM
@NathanOsman Which is exactly what happened in the UK.
Now no one but the bad guys have guns.
@ParanoidPanda If you mean more likely as in actually possible then yes..
@Seth we got a share of shootouts (see the hit and runs we had the last few months. 8 or so?) but those are all criminal vs criminal
@ParanoidPanda Which of these two scenarios is likely to result in fewer deaths (1) an armed shooter enters a school and nobody is armed - he can go on a rampage until police/SWAT show up (2) an armed shooter enters a school with armed employees - he is stopped cold by one of them?
Anyway, I'm going to be AFK for a few minutes. BRB.
there you go with the american logic.
We do not have armed shooters entering a school.......
Mainly cuz it is not easy to get armed in Holland and when someone does get guns he usually tends to use them for robberies
I think most school shootings have very little to do with owning guns. It seems to me most of them are either clinically depressed or on drugs which is things we need to fix in society, not by banning guns.
@Rinzwind and then not legal to defend yourself..
@Seth i am not even allowed to kill anyone in defence ;)
generally I'd get sued for overly excessive behaviour
6:46 PM
Well the aim should never be to kill them anyway.
But if they attacked me and I accidentally killed them defending myself I don't see why I should be to blame.. I hate killing but they took their life in their own hands when they attacked me.
anyway, politics isn't exactly a proper topic for this room ;)
If @jrg were here he'd kick us all out ;P
Instead of destroying those with evil within, we should work to purify them. And hostility just will not do it, if you are hostile, you will get hostility back, only when you lead with peace, do you get peace back.
@Seth depends on the circumstances. a jeweler's wife here shot 2 burglars dead. She is going to go to jail for 2 reasons: 1. unregisterd gun. 2. burglars had knifes. Using a gun with the intent to kill was deemed excessive.
@ParanoidPanda And if you're not hostile you'll be dead :)
But there is some truth to that.
@ParanoidPanda not going to work ;-)
@Rinzwind yeah, I agree, but I don't think it should be illegal in stone, that's all.
6:51 PM
Nowadays you have to deal with irrational behaviour.
we had 2 murders here the past 20 years or so. 1 on a politician and 1 on a movie maker. Both where extreme in their views regarding foreingers. Still... I feel no need to walk around with a gun or a knife.
@Rinzwind How do you know unless you try?
And as far as I can tell nobody in Holland does :D
Still we have someone like Wilders running around :D
You people are very much filled with hostility, what you give, you get back. Karma.
@ParanoidPanda the current problem cases are extremist moslims... no reasoning with them since most of them got brainwashed.
@Rinzwind: Ok, I agree that there is a problem with that.
6:55 PM
But I do agree that "More guns" or "Everyone a gun" is not the answer.
Making guns illegal actually makes it less likely that extremists gets armed.
The world's governments need to all unite, and end all these wars. Then together, and united, we can fight extremism.
I shudder to think of it.
@Seth: Of what?
Sometimes you get what you ask for, and then you realize how terrible it really is...
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