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3:31 AM

Silence is the lack of audible sound or presence of sounds of very low intensity. By analogy, the word silence can also refer to any absence of communication or hearing, including in media other than speech. and music Silence is also used as total communication, in reference to nonverbal communication and spiritual connection. Silence also refers to no sounds uttered by anybody in a room or area. Silence is an important factor in many cultural spectacles, as in rituals. In discourse analysis, speakers use brief absences of speech to mark the boundaries of prosodic units. Silence in speech can be...

Serg

very interesting question:askubuntu.com/questions/627532/…

I've been trying to parse list of files with find and stat -c %n , but glob still seems to be the only working solution

Nathan Osman

5:22 AM

I'm beginning to think I need a new microSD card for my Raspberry Pi 2.

The one I have now just isn't fast enough.

Serg

Is there an alternative way to using glob ?

Nathan Osman

5:38 AM

Something weird is going on here.

According to iotop:

Total DISK READ :       0.00 B/s | Total DISK WRITE :       0.00 B/s
Actual DISK READ:       0.00 B/s | Actual DISK WRITE:       0.00 B/s

...and yet the I/O LED is saturated and I can't access anything on the disk.

RPi Awesomeness

Sooo...I'm loading 720p video? It's either Chrome or we got a free internet speed upgrade.

Good gosh. Chrome + ImprovedTube is amazing. I'm somehow loading 720p video...

Well...Chrome is my Youtube browser now >.<

Nathan Osman

Just when I get a nice, long, well-researched question written up on AU, it starts working.

ಠ_ಠ

RPi Awesomeness

5:54 AM

>.< I hate that.

Nathan Osman

I'm just going to ask anyway :P

RPi Awesomeness

Nathan Osman

0

Q: Why is causing this disk I/O spike?

I have a Raspberry Pi 2 with Ubuntu 14.04 installed and I'm experiencing a strange problem. I'm attempting to use sbuild to build a Debian package and everything works well enough for the first few seconds... ubuntu@ubuntu:/tmp/pkg/pkg-0.0.1$ sbuild dh clean dh_testdir dh_auto_clean ... ...

@RPiAwesomeness How'd you pull that off?

RPi Awesomeness

And that's without pausing to let it buffer.

Chrome + ImproveTube == OP

I think After Effects 7 lacks the shape tools that the newer versions have...

and that's kinda making me sad :(

It almost played 1080p. But I didn't want to press my luck >.<

Nathan Osman

Hrm... maybe I should give zram a try.

Yay - sbuild completed!

RPi Awesomeness

6:10 AM

Hmm...maybe it was just that video?

'cause a Tek Syndicate video isn't loading nearly as well...

maybe it's Youtube cutting the bandwidth for them because they're bigger? Dunno.

muru

6:39 AM

@Serg find .. -printf "%f\0"?

Serg

@muru yeah, that would be one way to do it. I've literally been around the internet for hours , found the multitude of ways to list files, but parsing the files to select file in $( ) does not seem to work in any way, except with * . Tried even outputing to array, and yet nothing

This is good alternative to find . -print0 right ?

I think I've no idea what I am doing anymore

Serg

6:59 AM

77 $ select YOLO in $(printf -- "\"%s\" " testerdir/* )
> do echo $YOLO
> done
1) "testerdir/TEST
2) FILE"
3) "testerdir/foo"
4) "testerdir/hello"
5) "testerdir/hello
6) world"
7) "testerdir/world"
#? ^C

[100 ]_MKSH_SERGIY@UBUNTU_[/home/xieerqi]
***********************************************
80 $ select YOLO in "hello world" "yolo swag"
> do
> echo $YOLO
> done
1) hello world
2) yolo swag
#? ^C

OK, why in the first case I get 5 and 6 separated (folder's name contains spaces), but in second case spaces aren't broken into separate entries

Serg

7:21 AM

same with select YOLO in $(\ls -Q testerdir/)

muru

@Serg The quotes are no longer part of the shell's syntax, once it becomes the part of the output of command substitution

Serg

@muru so basically adding double quotes inside the substitution has no effect on separating strings.

and no way around it ?

muru

@Serg Nope. However, if you're trying to print only filenames, then you can safely use / as a separator, since / is only allowed in paths, not filenames. IFS='/'; select yolo in $(find . -printf "%f/"); do echo "$yolo"; done

Serg

@muru That works !

This is actually an awesome idea. Simple yet makes sense. And seems to work with setting IFS to something else,too

muru

@Serg Anything else in / is not necessarily safe. Only \0 and / aren't allowed in filenames.

And only \0 in paths (hence the -print0 in find).

Another longer version, which doesn't mess around with IFS:
filenames=()
while IFS= read -r -d '' foo; do filenames+=("$foo"); done < <(find . -printf "%f\0")
select yolo in "${filenames[@]}"; do echo "$yolo"; done

How do we write multiline code? O.o

Serg

7:40 AM

IFS="\0"; select yolo in $(find testerdir -printf "%f\0"); do echo "$yolo"; done

This didnt work

muru

@Serg No, it won't. "If the value of IFS is null, no field splitting shall be performed."

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Q: Understanding IFS

The following few threads on this site and StackOverflow were helpful for understanding how IFS works: What is IFS in context of for looping? How to loop over the lines of a file Bash, read line by line from file, with IFS But I still have some short questions. I decided to ask them in the sa...

shell

Serg

7:53 AM

@muru thank you

@muru you're just awesome

muru

@Serg awesome is terdon, Gilles or Stephane Chazelas.

Couple of orders of magnitude above me.

Serg

@muru still I'm learning a lot from you

Anyhow, I'd better get myself to sleep

muru

Good night!

Serg

o/ I hope I won't be having nightmares of parsing lists of files to other commands after this evening lol

muru

:D

Fabby

8:13 AM

@Hellreaver: sorry, I wasn't on-line yesterday....

Thanks for the accept. What additional information do you require on clustering?

Fabby

8:32 AM

@ParanoidPanda: Closing queue being worked upon! ;-)

(I haven't been on-line all days yesterday! >:) )

Fabby

8:52 AM

@ByteCommander when you Vote To Close also look when the question was posted... At the time the question was posted, that version of Ubuntu was on-topic...

;-)

Tim

9:12 AM

@Mateo nowhere is there a sandbox for posting questions...

user136984

10:51 AM

@NathanOsman This is starting to remind me of "Eats, shoots, and leaves"! ;D :P

ByteCommander

11:21 AM

@Fabby Yeah, I thought April 14 was already the deadline, but it has to be July... Retracted the vote.

hbdgaf

o/

@ByteCommander I would tend to think "If it's off-topic now, you can still close it even if it was on-topic when it was asked if there is no good answer. If there is a good answer, then just let it ride." It's a sort of cleaning up the site.

ByteCommander

Hmm....

Has an unaccepted +3-1 answer and a +-0 answer...

hbdgaf

Then I'ld just leave it.

ByteCommander

Anyway, retracted is retracted.

user136984

11:55 AM

@Fabby: How come you have only reviewed 19 close votes today and not 20?

user136984

:D

ByteCommander

To annoy you...

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12:22 PM

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I'm newbie in linux, is it possible to ask a question like "what is the purpose of reboot, shutdown -r now or init 6" whenever i'm issuing this commands in redhat linux? like windows servers. So after entered the purpose of reboot, it has to store somewhere in the log like for example purpose s...

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muru

12:36 PM

@kos Ondrej would be aware, but it's also likely that a failed minor-version bump on an older version of Ubuntu isn't high on his priorities.

kos

1:07 PM

@muru If it's not high on his priorities, I doubt that muru, kos and PHPLover complaining about it would change much, anyway I agree to try. I don't have an account at Launchpad tough, and I can't find an email address to contact Ondřej Surý on his site. Do you have a Launchpad account by any chance? Perhaps you or @PHPLover could inform him about this

hbdgaf

@kos you want to ping who about what... be clear.

kos

@hbdgaf PHP 5.5.25's package build is reported as failed in Ondřej Surý's repository, so we'd like to know if there are plans to fix this

Fabby

@ParanoidPanda Because I was gone for a moment... :P

@ByteCommander :) ;)

hbdgaf

@kos there ^^

I'll ping you with the response, if I get one.

Question though... Why don't you have a launchpad acct?

kos

1:27 PM

@hbdgaf Thank you for having done this for us and thanks for letting us know when you get a response. Well I'm pretty new to Ubuntu and I've never been in the need to have one, altough I agree that this could have been the right situation to get one. So I'm getting one this evening, at least I can be autonomous in the future

muru

@kos The changelogs all list his Debian account too (ondrej@debian.org). He's the DD handling PHP5 packaging for Debian.

Heh. What do you know... and an Ubuntu.com address as wll.

hbdgaf

@kos All you have to do is give them an email address and promise not to be an asshole (sign the code of conduct). Not that hard. Just saying, generate some gpg keys and call it a day.

muru

IIRC one of the requirements for being a candidate in the Ask Ubuntu moderator elections is that you have to sign the code of conduct on Launchpad. So, @kos sign it before the next elections. :P

kos

@muru I wasn't bright enough to figure that out. He, i'm still learning how to use the site well, so I'd say not this year ;) @hbdgaf Yes, I'm definetly doing this, and report the Nautilus bug in Vivid as well, altough if I recall it has been done already by someone here

Perhaps @ByteCommander?

ByteCommander

Hm?

kos

1:37 PM

I think it was you the one who I was discussing the Nauilus bug for which a Nautilus windows pops up when trying to empty the trash?

ByteCommander

Had that bug too...

But I don't remember whether I discussed that with anybody.

I want to get rid of Nautilus anyway...

kos

I recall having discussed this in the comments of a question, perhaps I'm not recalling this well. I'm ok with Nautilus, but I'd like to try one of those file manager with the terminal integrated :D

SmokeDetector

2:48 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: What is the equivalent to the Windows "Program Files" folder? (Where do things go when I install them?) by said.k on askubuntu.com

user136984

3:32 PM

@Fabby: Why does Honey exist?

user136984

(You should know this. ;) )

Seth

3:49 PM

@ParanoidPanda Shell questions are not off-topic here: askubuntu.com/questions/627532/…

user136984

@Seth: Ok, but I don't think that ever said that they were off-topic here...

Seth

@ParanoidPanda askubuntu.com/review/close/419225

The question was 1 vote away from being closed.

user136984

@Seth: Ahh... Yes, sorry, I have now retracted my close vote... :)

Seth

Thanks!

user136984

@Seth: By the way, would you happen to know how one would get a raw binary dump or a file, or collection of files? So that one could transmit that data and then have the files re-built?

user136984

4:00 PM

:)

kos

@ParanoidPanda Have you tried hexdump?

user136984

@kos: Yes, but I specifically need to turn files into their most basic binary format, and what I need to do is a bit more difficult with hex.

user136984

Although I am rather new to this, so I wouldn't put it past me to have completely miss understood something.

user136984

:)

user136984

@kos: Oh, wait, I am reading the hexdump manpage now... And I see that although its name suggests that it only does hex... It also does other things... So I will look into that, thanks! :)

user136984

4:11 PM

Although it doesn't actually appear to do binary...

user136984

@kos: But anyway, with the dump it gives me how would I transmit that data to someone and then allow for them to reconstruct the file?

kos

@ParanoidPanda No but you should be able to convert the hexadecimal output to binary using printf, altough I odn't remember the syntax

Tim

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hi thanks and want to do donation as attempt ... for this beautiful effort of all together into one pot and then where is the proper papernumber for all to get at the stocks as well as the appropriate option to select for which sort of paper ?! (pennystocks?! or else stocks paper?!) + Do you hav...

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user136984

@Tim: I'm sorry, but what's that about?

user136984

:D

Tim

4:12 PM

@ParanoidPanda I've read it 3 times, i think he want's to donate?

Mateo

He has never made sense to me...

Even when talking about Ubuntu stuff...

user136984

@Mateo: Oh, so has he always been like this then? :D

user136984

@Tim: I think so, perhaps even give money to all of us... :D

user136984

I think, but it's still confusing me!

user136984

So I have vote to close as unclear.

user136984

4:15 PM

:P

Tim

@ParanoidPanda I'm happy to accept donations ;)

kos

I think he wants to donate

Mateo

Bet he is talking about ubuntu.com - not taking other forms of donation... Which isn't us - or anything we can do.

user136984

@kos: But to whom?

Tim

@Mateo I'm wondering if he means to ask ubuntu tho?

Mateo

4:17 PM

Who knows.

user136984

Ok, RED ALERT RED ALERT! Another BANANAS guy here!

user136984

:D

user136984

We do get a lot of bananas it seems...

user136984

This is the third one (that I have encountered)!

user136984

The first one, actually targeted me with his bananas!

kos

4:18 PM

@ParanoidPanda No idea, it seems here since he's talking about "everyone being in the same pot"

user136984

And like here:

user136984

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In case of somehow "polluted" threads (if ever they were meant in a polluted way by misunderstanding of syntax in English grammar/style/comprehension for English Language) this seems to look like a conflict between different Linux-Distros, but in the end this is not the fact fortunately ... cause...

drivers hybrid-graphics hybrid

user136984

What is he talking about?! :D

user136984

@kos: Anyway, do you know how I could reconstruct the data from the dump?

kos

@ParanoidPanda Honestly no, never done something like that, but why do you want to do this? Perhaps there's a better method

user136984

4:25 PM

@kos: It's for a project of mine, I need to convert the file to binary so that I can then convert from that to decimal and back again and work some of my magic! ;D :P

kos

@ParanoidPanda If you want to edit a file in decimal you can try an hex editor which supports this, without doing all the conversions back and forth

user136984

@kos: Could you recommend a hex editor which would support this? :)

user136984

@Tim: Sorry, it just really did remind me of what I said! :D But I see that I should have probably said in chat and not in front of they guy... Who is a little strange and doesn't seem to make sense... I mean, why would he think that I was talking about the way he actually speaks, how would I know how he actually speaks, or if he has a hearing aid or anything...?

user136984

Wait, and now he's accusing us of something!

user136984

4:40 PM

Oh god... I really can't take any more weird today, I think I will take your advise and just leave that thread...

kos

@ParanoidPanda No, but with a Google search I found bless, which can show the decimal value for each pair of hexadecimal digits. Perhaps this is enough?

user136984

@kos: Is there not one that would show it for all of them?

user136984

Without me having to do it manually...?

user136984

@kos: Anyway, I will give it a go, how do I install it?

user136984

Just with sudo apt-get install bless ?

kos

4:45 PM

@ParanoidPanda Not that I know, but if you really need to see everything in decimal then just use hexdump, convert the output with printf, do the edit and convert back to binary, that should do

@ParanoidPanda Yes

Tim

@ParanoidPanda Yeah, it's fine :)

He linked in the Euro Debt and Greece's bailout now... umm

user136984

@Tim: Why is he accusing us of discrimination though?

Tim

@ParanoidPanda because he is deaf and we're "ear people" and we aren't answering him.

I'm asking him to explain in German, I think google translate will be better than his english...

user136984

But how were we to know that he was deaf?

user136984

"Ear people"...? :D

user136984

5:03 PM

@Tim: I actually find it slightly offensive that he is called non-deaf people, "ear people"... It's just, so strange...

user136984

:D

user136984

I can actually speak a little British Sign Language... But I don't think that that will help...

Mateo

@ParanoidPanda happens every time, we might even get a meta post about it again if we are lucky

user136984

@Mateo: But would the meta post be him accusing us of discrimination? Or us talking about it?

user136984

I guess the first... :D

RPi Awesomeness

5:07 PM

Also, don't use tabs

Wut

From the How to create an example piece of code for SO help page...

muru

@Tim forget it. dschin and Michael are two users whose posts I routinely ignore.

Full of incomprehensible stuff

Tim

@ParanoidPanda I guess that that is the translation of deaf in german or something...? one mo

Mudit

@Tim hello

Tim

@Mudit Hello?

@muru You seem to be right there.

@ParanoidPanda I know the alphabet in BSL

Mudit

@ParanoidPanda What IS BSL?

ok

user136984

5:23 PM

@Tim: The only problems with me and BSL are that I sometimes get the signs for "diarrhoea" and "now" confused...

Tim

@Mudit British Sign Language

user136984

I also get the signs for "life" and "toilet" confused..

Tim

@ParanoidPanda Yeah, life is on the right?

I use TT for toilet now :p

user136984

@Tim: I think that with the diarrhoea business, it's not that I don't know the difference, it's more that my hands just shake a little bit too much when I am doing the sign for "now" and it just becomes the sign for "diarrhoea"... :P

Tim

Yeah ;)

user136984

5:27 PM

@Tim: Do you think that the guy we were talking to would know any BSL? Or would he have learnt something else? As there could be a way of communicating with him through that...

Tim

@ParanoidPanda Well BSL is more similar to FSL (french) than ASL (american) because of grammar constructs... I don't think there is anyway to comunicate... :p

user136984

But he is German, so that wouldn't help... :D

user136984

@Tim: But how did he get such high rep if he is always strange and confusing?

user136984

I mean, he hasn't got such high rep, but still...

user136984

How did he manage to get up to 1k?

Mudit

5:30 PM

@ParanoidPanda Are bananas good for paranoid people

Tim

5:45 PM

@ParanoidPanda No idea... :P

user136984

By the way, does any body know anything about this?

user136984

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Tim

@ParanoidPanda Sorry, no :(

user136984

@Mudit: What are you talking about?

Mudit

@ParanoidPanda askubuntu.com/questions/20127/…

user136984

6:01 PM

@Mudit: Ok, thanks! But what's this about bananas being good for paranoid people? Which bananas? Which people?

Mudit

@ParanoidPanda Just assking ;)

user136984

@Mudit: But, why?

Tim

@ParanoidPanda for the mad german guy

user136984

@Tim: We are feeding him bananas now?

Tim

@ParanoidPanda aparently :p

user136984

6:06 PM

@Tim: Ok, I've told him:

user136984

@dschinn1001: Take my advice, and go and eat some BANANAS! — Paranoid Panda 32 secs ago

user136984

;D :P

Serg

O/ hi guys

Mudit

@Serg hello

user136984

@kos: How would I hexdump a directory so that I could then reconstruct the directory and all of its contents somewhere else? Is there a way of doing this, or does it not work like that? :)

Serg

6:34 PM

@ParanoidPanda I'm guessing you'd need to make hexdump for each single file

Try this litttle bit here IFS=":"; hexdump -C $(find testerdir/ -type f -printf "%p:")

user136984

@Serg: Thanks! :)

user136984

But how would I now convert to binary as it seems still to be in hex format?

Serg

you mean convert output of hexdump ?

user136984

@Serg: Well, I executed this: IFS=":"; hexdump -C $(find testerdir/ -type f -printf "%p:")

user136984

Which gave me the output for the directory.

user136984

6:40 PM

In Hex.

user136984

But I need it in Binary.

user136984

@Serg: So how do I convert the output that I got into Binary?

Serg

Man page gives octal option . . . I can only think of dumping hex first and pipe it to some form of converter or text processing command like printf

I'll look around but so far that's where my smarts end

Nathan Osman

o/

Serg

@NathanOsman o/

@NathanOsman so did you figure out the iostat problem ?

user136984

6:52 PM

@Serg: So which converter would I pipe it to? Or how would I use printf to convert it to binary?

Nathan Osman

@Serg No idea.

Serg

@ParanoidPanda forget printf , it gives only octal and hex,too

@ParanoidPanda stackoverflow.com/questions/7826526/…

user136984

@Serg: I see that that will output into a .bin file, how can I read one of these?

Serg

xxd -b hello
0000000: 01010100 01000101 01010011 01010100 00001010 TEST.

user136984

@Serg: Ok, thanks! How do I just get the binary though and not the extra stuff on the left and right?

Serg

7:01 PM

looking into this right now

user136984

For instance:

user136984

014df48: 01110100 01101000 01100101 01101110 00100000 01110011 then s

user136984

How do I trim the stuff at the beginning and end so that I only have the binary? :)

user136984

7:19 PM

@Serg: You found anything on that yet? :)

Serg

@ParanoidPanda nope :(

user136984

Perhaps I should post a question on AskUbuntu about it.

Serg

I came up with this : for file in *; do xxd -b $file; done

which gives binary

for all files

there's error with directories , though, but that can be redirected to dev null

I'd post on unix.stackexchange.com

@A.B. o/

user136984

@Serg: So would it be able to also do sub-directories?

Serg

for file in *; do xxd -b $file; done that's for only current directory. hold on

user136984

7:24 PM

@Serg: And would I be able to reverse this using the output to recreate the file structure?

Serg

@ParanoidPanda According to this (linuxjournal.com/content/doing-reverse-hex-dump) the output really needs to be in hex and formated to be reversed

Note that when doing reverse conversions with xxd, the data needs to look like a hex dump: there needs to be an offset and the data needs to be formatted correctly. So, for example, this works:

# echo 01: 01 02 03 04 | xxd -r >output

but this does not because the data is not formatted correctly:

# echo 01: 1 2 3 4 | xxd -r >output

@ParanoidPanda is compressing that folder an option ?

user136984

@Serg: Not really...

user136984

@Serg: All I really want to do is to convert a folder or file to binary, and then back again retaining the file structure, is there not a way to achieve this?

Serg

@ParanoidPanda I'm sure there is. And it's probably quite simple. We're just not doing something right

xxd -b compressed_folder.zip | awk '{ for (i=1;i<=NR;i++) print $2" "$3" "$4" "$5" "$6 }'

OK, this just prints binary, no stuff on left and right

now we need to figure out how to make it for every file in folder

nope scratch that

xxd -b compressed_folder.zip | awk '{ $1=$8=$9=""; print }'

this, better

So this converts a file to binary, awk gets rid of extra info on the left and right. Good.

@ParanoidPanda IFS="|"; for filename in $(find ~/testerdir -type f -printf "%p|");do xxd -b $filename | awk '{ $1=$8=$9=""; print }';done

for all files in the directory and its sub directories, dump in binary, strip out fields 1,8,and9, and output to stdout

user136984

8:06 PM

@Serg: Is there any way to do what compression does to put all that into one file without actually compressing anything?

user136984

As it is rather important for what I am doing that no compression is used.

Rinzwind

@ParanoidPanda tar does not compress.

tar uses (g?)zip to compress if you add a "z" to the parameters

user136984

@Serg: I used

IFS="|"; for filename in $(find ~/testerdir -type f -printf "%p|");do xxd -b $filename | awk '{ $1=$8=$9=""; print }';done

user136984

But there is still a problem...

user136984

It sometimes still prints the stuff in the last column.

Serg

8:10 PM

I personally would compress the folder , zip or tar, or whatever, xxd -b foldername.zip > output.txt. Then restore the zipped folder and upzip it

user136984

Like I keep on getting something like:

user136984

00110001 00100000 00100110 00100110 00100000 01100011 c

user136984

@Serg: Why do I keep getting a line like that?

user136984

Why is awk not working?

Serg

@ParanoidPanda I guess removing last fields does not work. I'm trying to selectivelly print only middle fields now

user136984

8:15 PM

@Rinzwind: So how do I use tar to put something into one file without compression?

user136984

What are the options that I use?

user136984

As I was looking at the man page and it was not very clear...

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How do I get Ubuntu to boot normally without having to use the "upstart" option? I have a chronic problem on my computer that is rooted, usually, but not always in the nvidia card, and it overheats. Thank you Dell. I've had a stable Ubuntu install running for quite some time now, but since 15.0...

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user136984

@Rinzwind: Wait, never mind... I figured it out... :)

Serg

@ParanoidPanda IFS="|"; for filename in $(find ~/testerdir -type f -printf "%p|");do xxd -b $filename | awk '{ for (i=2;i<NF;i++){ if (i<=6) printf "%s ", $i }; printf"\n" }';done

user136984

8:25 PM

@Serg: Ok, I have put them into a non-compressed tar file. What do I do with that? Or is it no longer needed?

Serg

@ParanoidPanda No idea. I've been working on parsing output of xxd all that time. I've no experience witih tar files ^_^''''''''

user136984

@Serg: Ahh! Great, that works now! :)

user136984

@Serg: Now how would I convert the output of that command back to the original files (keeping the same file structure)?

Serg

@ParanoidPanda remember I've posted linuxjournal article ? for reversal it's better to be in hex format. I think converting from binary to hex, then from hex use xxd -r -p should work, but . . . that's a theory

user136984

@Serg: What would be the problem in converting directly from binary to the actual thing, what benefit does it give to use hex in the middle?

user136984

8:34 PM

Is it just hard, or are there disadvantages of doing it straight from binary?

Serg

@ParanoidPanda it's just that I haven't found a tool that converts binary to executable file. From what I saw online, it's always hex

@ParanoidPanda I am figuring it out as I go, just like you, so . . . .

I'll be back later boys, need to vacuum the house. Cleaning time

Is there an app for stack chat ?

Mateo

Nope, but the regular app will send you notifications of chat pings

kos

@ParanoidPanda What are you trying to do exactly? Perhaps we can point you to the easiest solution. Hex/bin editing one folder doesn't make sense, since a folder is a just filesystem construct, it does not "contain" the files as it might seems judging from a file manager's perspective

A folder is just a "pointer" (if you dont mind strict programming references) to a list of files / folders inside of it, and it's stored within the filesystem

ByteCommander

8:52 PM

> The old saying is guests are like fish -- they stink after a few days. Ubuntu stinks from day one. What I really wish for is a version of Ubuntu that is designed to be a good guest. In the meantime...

WUT?

Is that already offensive? (askubuntu.com/q/627809/367990)

kos

Files on the other hand are just bunch of bits written usually in different positions on the drive

Mateo

Oh, there might be a third party chat appp

@ByteCommander lol, maybe he should use server and a minimal ui?

ByteCommander

Maybe...

I never heard anybody compare ubuntu to fish yet...

Not even to a rainbow trout.

Might it be appropriate to VTC as too broad?

user136984

@kos: I just need to convert a folder and all of its contents to binary. So that I can then use that binary to reconstruct the folder and all of its contents.

user136984

I understand that a folder doesn't really contain, and just points, but you get what I mean.

kos

8:59 PM

@ParanoidPanda But what's the purpose of it, if you don't mind me asking? Destroy to reconstruct on itself doesn't make sense, so I guess you want to do something in the middle

Mateo

There we go.

Now for either chaos or understanding...

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