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12:00 PM

@DamkerngT. Who? SB?

@MARamezani +1

I heard it like this: "(Oh, that) reminds me of that psycho in, um, Don't Look Now." "Don't Look Now." "Yeah." "It's (how much.)" "How much." "How much we could smoke." "(Who's) in the commentary (with--um) like this cinematic illusion." -- I parenthesized the parts I'm less sure about, and I'm a non-native speaker. — Damkerng T. 1 min ago

@MARamezani The OP. He called himself the modal guy once, afaicr, which I think is apt!

@DamkerngT. Sooo, did they introduce the emoticon for bragging?

Listening is supposed to be the easiest kind of question for native speakers, I think. It's way more challenging for non-native speakers.

I thought you meant I was the modal guy, though.

@MARamezani No, he meant it in the sense that it's his special interest.

12:02 PM

Yes I am also with MAR in this regard. About the meaning change of that sentence.

Context is everything indeed!

Someone's actually with me? Oh I'm gonna freak out!

@DamkerngT. True...

@MARamezani lol

I (incorrectly) assumed that everyone here had stumbled upon that post of the OP's (that he called himself "the modal guy".)

Well, I remember he is a friend of yours when reviewing - i.e. he's the grandmaster robo-reviewer.

12:05 PM

lol -- That's not the term I coined!

But yes, I remember that meta post.

@MARamezani Go freak out, but don't pass out!

Also, I have no plans of passing away too.

:D

In case you pass out.

Umm... Was it Image not found for you?

:D

@DamkerngT. Yep. Have no virtual servers going on at this moment.

Ah, I knew it!

user image

Should you feel like pass out, use it!

12:09 PM

Looks delicious.

(Now I wonder if it should be 'feel like passing out'...)

Argh, I'm sure you don't wanna eat it!

@DamkerngT. Nima should be seeing this sentence :-)

Hehe!

considering all his problem with should

@Man_From_India And eventually discern it.

12:10 PM

lol

Thanks in advance.

And after reading the answers, what he does? Does he still thank us :O I doubt :D

@Man_From_India He never comments on answers, unless he feels that they don't discern between anything.

Hey, Kinzle B's got Collins COBUILD English Grammar!

I remember he was on another book last year.

@DamkerngT. Why don't I get one of those shinies?

12:13 PM

Because you already have another textbook. What is its title, again?

Insight something?

WHAT?!

The grammar textbook series that you told me it's so popular over there.

@DamkerngT. Mortimer's General Chemistry Book

That's not a grammar book!

:D

12:15 PM

@DamkerngT. Hah! That was INTERCHANGE!

Ahh... Thanks for the title!

Insight? LOL!

See, my DDR9 helps me to remember things vaguely. :P

I was surprised that I was able to remember the In part!

@DamkerngT. As like Need for Speed.

Give the full name....I will recommend it to Nima...and will also mention that it's very popular over his place. MAR have mastered in English Literature just by reading that book....read it Nima, and you can teach.

12:16 PM

BTW, have to download Fast 7 some time

amazon.com/…

@Man_From_India What?! Heck no! Interchange is something I'm sure Nima has already studied.

^That Interchange, I presume.

:O what? :O

@DamkerngT. Bringing the memories of childhood

Also, they're old editions.

12:21 PM

@MARamezani Childhood :O which hood you are in now? :O

Oh no! Amazon's loading my recommendations. Better close the tab

@Man_From_India Childhood.

:-/

@MARamezani :-)

@Man_From_India Your reaction is phuunny.

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Q: Is time to remove "Answer your own question" option from question page?

The story behind this question is that a new user posted this question with a simultaneous answer. I posted a comment indicating that "answering own questions was extensively debated" and suggested to not post his answer immediately after the question. Then, Ken White replied to my comment with a...

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Longest lowest voted Q.

Oh god such long!!! :O

12:26 PM

@Man_From_India I think that should be so long!

Wow, that question is indeed long!

@MARamezani U r correct as always. My mistake

@Man_From_India OMG what's with this day?! People are saying that I'm right! Okay okay, so I'll just eat some tissues, in case I freaked out, so it won't be too noisy in the neighborhood...

Use that tiger Dam recommended in case you need :D

:D

12:30 PM

But he's too cute...

@Man_From_India F.E.?

@MARamezani Ha ha...that is too much :D

roflmao

:-)

12:42 PM

Hello friends.

And @MARa

O.0

o.o

Hullo Grand Do|t

:D

That's IranianTM for I love you.

You used a slash*!*

Er. Hmm.

@JimReynolds Markdown doesn't like aliens.

Try being a nice Jedi for a change.

o.0

I'm writing the definitive answer to Omit object after "He left me without informing.

Go ahead.

12:46 PM

I AM NICE!

That's the answer?

It's link-only.

O.0

I'm still writing it.

Stilllllll writing it.

You can; but if you use it without its complements it is parsed as intransitive, and in that sense it means "ratting". — StoneyB 1 hour ago

Ah, that's exactly the example we discussed!

So far I have . . .

12:55 PM

Whaddid I say?

> But what if in the OP's context (which is unclear), they said that to mean, "He left without (such) informing."
Such informing that could earn a swift and terrible punishment from the gang.

You CAN!

My cat looks hungry...

@DamkerngT. When it/he saw that tiger balm?

Well I also caught something about the way it was asked . . . .

Can you omit the object?

12:56 PM

@MARamezani Hehe! I told you the balm is not edible!

Technically, that implies that there is an object.

@JimReynolds I think we shouldn't, in most cases.

*Is it okay to omit the object?*

What object?

If you use *informing* in an object verb sense, then an object must be supplied or it is nonstandard grammatically and has no sensical meaning in any ordinary context.

It is almost certainly--or almost always--nonstandard or nonsensical to write or say *He left me without informing.*

If we deem *informing* to be a noun, it is difficult to think of a context in which the sentence would make sense. *He left me without purple* follows a common grammar pattern, but is also generally nonsensical.

Good opening! -- Can't wait to see the full post!

It would be a box office hit!

12:58 PM

:D

Ah, Oculus is coming up!

I want to make a profit, like the Scooby Doo movie.

@JimReynolds Which Man_From_India was watching yesterday!

Fast 7 is out, and you better watch the box office yourself.

Someone mentioned Scooby?

:-)

1:04 PM

I remembered. And you looked up its finances, right?

If you think/feel you're going to pass out. @Dam

ell.stackexchange.com/q/54575/#comment102820_54575

Feel like passing out carries the other meaning of feel like.

Stoney is outright friendly.

I'm kinda surprised.

Feel like you're going to . . . Ok.

Not that he isn't such a guy.

It's that someone 1/4th his rep is bragging somewhere is meta.SE.

YOU'RE AWESOME @Stoney!

1:11 PM

His rep points aren't accidental.

If anything, he made a huge fan here.

On second thought, coincidental is a better word.

No no, here. Here!

nods

Where are you looking at?

HERE!

1:13 PM

I have only one eye on the chat now.

@DamkerngT. Dunno. I think with a coincidental, the sentence is incomplete.

So it might be better to say ME than HERE. :-)

HEEERRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

confused

o_O

@JimReynolds I think the other meaning can mean either meaning. Not very sure.

But feel like you're going to is clearly a better choice.

Eh? Is Ocular based on a Japanese ghost story?

1:36 PM

You mean feel like passing out?

Ah, yes.

I don't think we use it for an involuntary situation.

Ahh... I see.

Phuunny how people are either looking for love letters in SE or they're ranting about chatrooms.

Compare this:

It was a Cat 3 error. (I could sense something fishy in the sentence, but didn't know how to fix it idiomatically.)

@MARamezani Love letters?!

1:41 PM

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Q: +1 and like buttons next to a question

I'd like +1 and like buttons for Google+ and Facebook below the sharing buttons next to each question. Sometimes, I'd just like to show I like it without sending a whole status update. I e-mailed the team, but they tell me to ask the community before if it would like something like that too. <-...

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And this:

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Q: Why do Stack Exchange sites, particularly Stack Overflow, have chat rooms?

Chat rooms are so inefficient- Stack Overflow has a ridiculous number of chat rooms. I'd create a simple forum/subforum category (chat rooms can become threads or subsubforums) structure, kill the current ones and transfer their content to individual threads (I assume some people want that st...

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Love letters?

I mean all the babble about getting SE to social media and Qs like the first one I linkenized.

LINKENIZED!!????

That's outrageous.

I vote to have your fingers sewn together so you can't type.

@JimReynolds Yes.

O.O

How. Dare. You?

1:47 PM

@JimReynolds What about linkenisized? Or linkenicized?

Linkenificationized

Oh. That's better. Not the first. The latterer.

Linkenificationicizationicizitificationized

O>O

stoppit!!

Linkenificationicizationicizitificationizationiticizationitificationizitificatio‌nized.

^ Read that in one whole breath if you dare ^

I tried, but one of my brains ruptured.

2:01 PM

@JimReynolds How many left?

27

Spend them trying to figure out what that thing is supposed to mean.

No. There is a self-protective mechanism.

My informing/object answer was messed up. I think I fixed it.

2:27 PM

@JimReynolds you have given an example - He left me without purple

We, however, can say - He left me without [any food].

From google book -

> ...if successful in play, are certain to be paid with honour, or if unsuccessfnl, have it in their power to be still greater gainers by informing.

cout << "Hullo!";

You're learning...Hullo!

@JimReynolds From up to date OED -

;P

user image

2:34 PM

@Man_From_India :O So this is what OED looks like?

just a screen shot

i can give u the link...but I am afraid that you don't have the access.

I'm scared too.

:D

where is Jim?

Figuring out the meaning of

44 mins ago, by MARamezani

Linkenificationicizationicizitificationizationiticizationitificationizitificatio‌nized.

:D

2:37 PM

Hi @Man

@Man_From_India The mirror must have had him! (An aftereffect of Ocular.)

Oh, Jim's back. That's too bad.

I'm looking at it.

(Um... I mean, it's good.)

O.o

hi jim...i was just trying to say something about your answer.

2:38 PM

@JimReynolds It's just a scary movie.

@Man_From_India Your informing screenshot looks very authoritatively!

Like mine?

0.o

Authoritative.

@DamkerngT. I think that would be better as authoritative.

@DamkerngT. even saying so I belive informing needs an object there :-(

still greater gainers by informing. ...

2:39 PM

Because the verb is look, ya know.

How does that sentence start?

@MARamezani Indeed!

@MARamezani I forgot to look!

(Also still on the wrong glasses!)

@DamkerngT. Snailor is a bad influence.

?!?

Well, I leave it to you to figure it out.

How does feeling tortured feel?

Turturizationificationized

2:44 PM

@MARamezani o_O

@DamkerngT. O.0

(-_-)"

@JimReynolds I still did not see anything good about your reason there in your answer. Yes it's transitive verb, we know, so it should have an object. But it's also a noun, that is what I showed and mean not only just ratting. If it's a noun what is the reason of adding an objective obligatorily?

Torturificationiziticizationificationizationificationiticizationiticized

Getting better at it

If it's a noun, the sentence makes no sense.

2:46 PM

@MARamezani T70d. That's how a programmer would refer to it.

why?

@Man What would it mean?

@DamkerngT. 0.O What does that mean?

It is similar to this sentence - He left me without [any money].

I guess that Man_From_India means, that "He left without his shirt" is grammatical.

(Or money!)

2:47 PM

true

@MARamezani It's like i18n and l10n, in case you're curious.

@DamkerngT. O>O>O>O>O>O>O>O>O>O>O>O>O>O>O>O>O

Here it should mean if informing is a noun, he left without [the action of informing] based on OED screenshot

But he left me without money means something.

He left me without informing . . . .

What does that mean?

Is it a sentence?

@JimReynolds No, whales don't fly.

2:49 PM

Because you are stuck with the feeling that inform is a transitive verb. And should have an object

@JimReynolds It might work if you try to stretch your imagination so far as to it almost snaps!

@DamkerngT. His brain is overridden already.

No. Why do you keep saying that?

I said it can be a noun.

It is :-)

can't deny :D

How do you know?

2:51 PM

I just showed u some screenshot

The op asks if the object can be left out.

Yes I know...I am saying that it can be left out. But it's not obligatory.

Wait, what did the OP ask exactly?!

> Is it okay to omit the object in this sentence?

Can the object be omitted?

[Though I know very sure an object is necessary, but still if we look at grammar it seems like it's not obligatory.]

2:53 PM

Nouns don't have objects.

@DamkerngT. How can I make a sandwich out of you and laugh at it.

Oh, I see. It's been like that since it was first posted.

@MARamezani You can have one of my switches, turn it into a sandwich, maybe? o_O

I was wondering if the title was so because we had edited the OP's title.

@JimReynolds that is what i am trying to say. Your answer makes it look like an object is obligatory.

Wait, I think inform as a verb is always transitive.

(I know it's risky to say always with anything about language.)

It can be intransitive.

He informed on his company's bookkeeper to the police.

2:57 PM

In the sense of rattling that is what StoneyB commented. But OED does say it's not necessarily restricted to that meaning only. it says informing is a noun meaning the action of informing.

Much as I hate to say it, I agree with almost all of the things @Jim says.

Ah, yes, I forget when it's used with a preposition-headed phrase.

@Man Again, I have written that it can be a noun.

^I should've said 'forgot', but never mind that.

But I repeat: If it's a noun, that sentence has no meaning.

2:59 PM

@JimReynolds Only in the sense of *rattling or any other sense of inform?

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