Game Development

Hjorthenify

12:00 AM

Hi Chris

Chris

hello

Hjorthenify

How's tallowmere?

Wardy

@IcyDefiance visual studio works a treat

Chris

@Hjorthenify it's good!

Icy Defiance

eh, I couldn't get visual studio to play nice with git. the tools are there, but they hated me.

Hjorthenify

12:02 AM

@Chris Good to hear! What's next to be added?

Chris

I think I've used TortoiseHg before for Windows shell right-clicking goodness, tortoisehg.bitbucket.org

Wardy

@IcyDefiance 2013 or later should be ok

I don' have any problems using it

Icy Defiance

don't remember if I was using 2012 or 2013...

Wardy

2012 was flaky as hell

Chris

4 hours ago, by Chris

Right now, my next main focus is to add a little more personality to the dungeon, like maybe have images/ghosts of Lady Tallowmere appear at the start of each event room, with a cute/snarky message or two, "Can you beat my hydra?", sort of edging the player on

Icy Defiance

12:03 AM

I bet that was it, then

Wardy

yeh probably

Icy Defiance

@Chris right-clicking, like right-click to paste?

Hjorthenify

Ahh I see :)

Chris

it gave the folders checkmarks if they were outdated or not I think

and you could right-click your project folder and choose to commit

and it'd bring up a pop-up dialog so you could add comments, and review all the changes and diffs before commiting

much like the github desktop app

Icy Defiance

ohh right, tortoise. I used that before.

Chris

12:05 AM

yeah

Icy Defiance

I used it for svn, though, and it was horrible

Chris

there's also a version for SVN

yes lol, I used that for Google Code stuff

never again

Jon

Another 5 star rating from a German.. I love Germans

Leichte Bedienung und keine Werbung!

Chris

:D

Jon

i have had a steady 2 sales a day for 2 months

Chris

12:13 AM

sweet

Jon

not huge, but i mean it seems to be generating money for coffee

Chris

everything helps

Jon

80% of my sales are in Gemany

Hjorthenify

What did u make Jon?

Hjorthenify

12:29 AM

@IcyDefiance Do you know if it is possible to make certain files in your repo with bitbucket public? Such as the .exe?

Icy Defiance

uhh...I remember that being possible for branches, don't remember if it was possible for individual files though

Almo

PERFORCE

Hjorthenify

Is it possible to make a branch just for the release files then?

Icy Defiance

don't use a branch for that, use the uploads tab

orrr

Hjorthenify

I dont see an upload tab D:

Sorry. I'm kinda new to this xD

Almo

12:31 AM

@IcyDefiance lol?

Icy Defiance

err, downloads

you upload to the downloads

lol

Almo

lol logins busted

apparently

Hjorthenify

But yes of course!
.... what?

Almo

gonna play a quick hots game

will check back after

Icy Defiance

oh, sorry Almo, I can play

@Hjorthenify if you can't find the downloads button, then go to the repo's main page and add /downloads to the url

that page then has 3 tabs. the first you can upload anything to, but the second might be even better.

Hjorthenify

12:35 AM

I saw the button JUST as you said that :P

Thanks!

Icy Defiance

you can tag a certain commit as a release, and bitbucket will display it on the Tags tab there, along with a .zip download of the source for that commit.

github then allows you to attach a binary download to that tag if you want. dunno if bitbucket does the same, but I would expect so.

Hjorthenify

Hmm nice

Icy Defiance

@Almo league with a 21 minute login queue D:

Almo

ow shit

Chris

:|

Almo

12:36 AM

yeah they say there's a problem with login, they're wortking on it

will check back aorund 9

Icy Defiance

framework design question: should I make Window abstract and force people to inherit from it and override the Update() method, or make Window take an external function as a parameter and call that every frame

MLM

I like the callback approach

Icy Defiance

aight I was leaning toward that anyway. just wanted to be sure it wasn't totally insane.

Aidan Mueller

1:22 AM

@Jon I saw the pixels trailer, but I didn't like it because you see a space shuttle in the beginning, but then when it gets to space, you see a the third stage of a saturn V. On top of that, the space shuttle was never used for inter-planetary satellites (AFAIK).

Jon

lol

it looks bad

but i'm gonna watch it

MLM

1:51 AM

What does this shader error mean? (Unity)

> Duplicate system value semantic definition: output semantic 'POSITION' and output semantic 'POSITION'

SpartanDonut

We did it. Traffic problems are solved.

MLM

Well the error goes away if I change the vertex shader signature from v2g vert(inout appdata_full v) to v2g vert(appdata_base v)

idk, shader syntax/semantics is still confusing to me

Almo

@SpartanDonut hahah

Aidan Mueller

2:06 AM

The voyager 1 contained some works of mozart. I guess you could say that his music is pretty far out :P

Icy Defiance

okay I quit vim

syntax highlighting still isn't working quite right, and while I know why, I have no clue how to fix it

Almo

ask josh

he'll help

Icy Defiance

possibly...

Joe

@IcyDefiance grab your favorite intelij IDE

and turn on vim mode

Aidan Mueller

@IcyDefiance If you want settings to be saved, you have to write them in the vimrc file.

Is it a problem with youcompleteme?

Icy Defiance

2:14 AM

yeah it's not that. vim doesn't highlight namespace, type, or function names, so I installed TagHighlight, which uses cmake. it works fine on my own libraries, but not on the std libraries. easiest fix for that (supposedly) is to run cmake on the std libraries and point the plugin at the result of that, and doing that worked...on the std namespace, but none of the types inside it...for some reason...

Joe

hmm yea idk i was very turned off to vim in the console... but very much liked having an application running the commands just personal preference so far, still a newb

Icy Defiance

vim with YCM and NERDtree is really cool. it's just the little details after that which get annoying, and I'm trying to fix them all, but it hates me.

Joe

haha yea I dont have patience for customizing that much stuff.. i could spend more time customizing my tools than i do coding

Icy Defiance

I'll just go back to visual studio for now. I'll keep my vim stuff around just in case Josh can help me later, but for now, VS will work.

Aidan Mueller

@MickLH You use Vim?

MickLH

2:26 AM

Hell no, I'm sane.

Aidan Mueller

What?

Why not?

MickLH

nano master race

midnight commander when you wanna ball hard

Aidan Mueller

midnight commander?

What can nano do that vim can't?

MickLH

Be convenient

Icy Defiance

Mick the other day you said something about making a main function to dispatch main functions...was this what you meant? gist.github.com/IcyDefiance/1f6a188d306cf1f3c7c8

I feel so dirty after doing that

MickLH

2:34 AM

Lol that's technically acceptable still

I was implying that it's wrong to combine multiple programs that way, like busybox

But that was a joke too

Icy Defiance

ah okay

Aidan Mueller

@MickLH How is it inconvenient?

MickLH

3:06 AM

@AidanMueller I was mostly joking, but actually I hate vi's commands because I can never remember them

Aidan Mueller

Well you can't mix up vi and vim :)

MickLH

I've never wanted to go past vi

I tried it for about 0.2 seconds and it obviously was not the state of mind I'd like to go down the path of

I have a fucking X server, I use gedit

or SciTE (or recently, MonoDevelop, it's kinda nice)

Icy Defiance

I mostly like vim because of how fast I can move the cursor around the file without touching the mouse

there's probably a VS extension that will do the same thing...

Aidan Mueller

Well you can use GVim, which is a happy medium.

MickLH

Also, I've encountered too many vim evangelicals

So I automatically religiously hate it

Icy Defiance

3:09 AM

lol yeah I've seen those too

MickLH

I mean it really does look really nice, but dat religious hate doe.

It's the source of all my other problems with vim ;)

and emacs

The only thing worse than emacs is vim

I'm in a great mood if you can't tell.

Aidan Mueller

@MickLH Well I hope I'm not coming across like that, I'm just curious :)

Aidan Mueller

4:19 AM

I wish that euclideon's geoverse thing was an open source project.

Technology would be so far ahead with unlimited detail.

MickLH

Even though I could imagine how to implement it a few ways, they are full of shit.

If it would not embarrass them, they would release something.

If they won't release anything for business reasons, I'd love to hear about their business reasons.

Aidan Mueller

At any rate, we will eventually be gaming like this.

@MickLH Their demonstrations look pretty hard to fake.

They have released geoverse.

They also said that they are working on some games, so we can see once those come out.

MickLH

If I hadn't heard that over and over, I'd be optimistic

Aidan Mueller

2015

@MickLH Like it?

MickLH

4:35 AM

looks good to me

Icy Defiance

4:47 AM

so...setting CXX_STANDARD 11 in cmake and generating for mingw produces the -std=c++0x flag
which is obsolete and it should use -std=c++11 instead
this means I need to use the namespace std::tr1 for some things instead of just std
(╯°□°)╯︵ ǝʞɐɯɔ

MickLH

You're more patient and persistent than I

SpartanDonut

How the hell is it friday already

Icy Defiance

eh, this time the fix was easy. I just had to set the flag more directly and hope other compilers don't need a different flag for the same thing, lol.

MickLH

5:07 AM

@AidanMueller Oh you know what, maybe that texture feels a little blurry. I mean it doesn't look unnaturally blurred, but the colors are just all so similar I get that effect.

Aidan Mueller

6:22 AM

@MickLH That isn't the actual texture, it's just for visualization.

MickLH

trolling

Aidan Mueller

WHYYYYY??!!!?

:P

OK going to bed goodnight.

MickLH

nite

Aidan Mueller

nite?

How dare you forget the gh and add an e!?!

MickLH

It's a code word that means the boogeyman is in your closet

Aidan Mueller

6:24 AM

Oh.

OK well then I'm not going to bed XD

Whatever, I'll load the shotguns.

MickLH

lol good, I need company

jk go to sleep

Aidan Mueller

OK bye.

Icy Defiance

wtf I can read a file from a folder in Documents, but if I try to check if a file exists then it throws an exception saying I'm not authorized to access the containing folder

MickLH

lol

Make a proof of concept exploit that enumerates un-accessible directories using brute force

Icy Defiance

nah turns out I fucked up a + and tried to check if a directory exists using File.Exists()

Hjorthenify

8:27 AM

@IcyDefiance Still there?

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