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2:00 PM
I might buy it then. at some point. My next WiiU purchase will be DKC Tropical Freeze. Or smash BRothers.
Probably smash.
I want to finish Pikmin 3 and Super Mario 3D World on my wiiU first.
I have 2 fruit left to get in pikmin 3 + beat final boss Ithink.
All of them involve boss fights I believe.
Boss fights have always been my least favourite part of the pikmin games, which is why I trailed off after fucking up the final boss.
And I'm in the specil worlds of mario 3d. I need to beat them.
 
Oh yeah I need to get smash too.
There are too many good Wii U games coming out. I never thought I'd say that.
 
3D world is the most anti-cooperative game on the planet lol
 
Smash will probably get alot more play from you than monster hunter did.
MH is fun, but it requires a lot more investment than smash.
Smash is good for just pick up and play.
@Unionhawk I'm not playing it for multiplayer though.
 
3D world was really good.
 
@Wipqozn Oh well carry on then
 
2:03 PM
@StrixVaria wiiU has a really good library now. Nintendo consoles are always like this. They take a while to get going, but once they do they're really good.
 
"WOO! CONSOLE'S RELEASED!" no games for a while
 
opkay now always
it's mostly been a trend starting with cube I'd say.
 
@StrixVaria What kinds of games do you like?
 
Shall I make you all feel old and remind you all that the cube was my first proper games console?
 
maybe N64... It's one of the 3D consoles. It's when Nintendo started getting less third party support compared to it's rivals.
 
2:06 PM
@Wipqozn N64 is where they lost 3rd party support.
 
@Powerlord I don't even know anymore.
I tend to "appreciate" games more than I enjoy playing them.
 
I haven't really kept up with consoles... How are the Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts franchises these days?
 
The N64's hardware was technically superior (except for sound), but companies wanted the space that CDs offered them.
 
@Koviko Still overblown and complicated.
And completely awesome.
 
@Powerlord Yeah, you're right.
 
2:07 PM
@Koviko Final Fantasy is a rotting corpse now. Kingdom Hearts? No idea.
 
I've never played an FF game past 11.
 
The load times on PS1 were horrendous.
 
@5pike You just hate 13.
 
Lol FF
 
(and I didn't care for 11)
 
2:08 PM
amirite
 
How many of the FF games are MMOs? Just the one?
 
I didn't hate FF13.
 
I still think that the jump to CDs was made too early.
 
@Frank Well, 13 was the latest game.
 
@Koviko 11 and 14 are MMOs.
 
2:08 PM
@Koviko FF11 and FF14 are both MMOs
 
Oh wait
 
@StrixVaria I've been meaning to maybe one day play this.
 
@Wipqozn "didn't hate" is far from a recommendation.
 
@Wipqozn Why?
 
How recent is FF14? Is it big?
 
2:09 PM
However the next FF I game will be FFIX. I played a bit of it back in the day, and liked it, and I've been wanting to play through it.
 
@Koviko I think @Frank played it. Maybe he'll have some info.
 
Technically, you're right... the jump to CDs was too early. Just look at how badly the Sega CD and Turbo Duo did.
 
@Koviko Very, and lots of fun.
It solves alt-itis incredibly well.
 
Oh awesome. One of our customer's Windows XP machines isn't booting properly. Yes, our customer still uses Windows XP, and yes, we're the ones that have to support it.
 
..but then two years later, the PS1 took the world by storm.
 
2:09 PM
@Powerlord The load times were way too slow on the playstation IMO. It's the main reason I never bought a playstation and just stuck with an N64.
 
@Frank Oh, how does it do this?
 
But it is a paid MMO, and is essentially WoW with an FF skin, more or less.
@StrixVaria Every character can be every class.
 
@Frank Damnit.
 
@Wipqozn Part of that is because it only used a 2X CD-ROM. For reference, the last CD-ROMs before everyone moved to DVD-ROMs were 52xish
 
@Frank Does that mean it's grindy?
 
2:10 PM
Including all the gathering and crafting classes.
 
I remember playing games over at a friends place that had a PS and the load times were so long it really hurt the enjoyment.
 
@Koviko Can be, yeah.
 
@Frank Is it like, you pick one at a time to use? I imagine that all characters aren't the same once you max everything.
 
@Powerlord I know it's because of limitations of tech at the time, which is why I think it was too early.
 
But each class has class quests every five levels, which continues that aspect of the story, along with the main story.
@StrixVaria Yup, one at a time.
 
2:11 PM
That sounds kind of similar to the system in The Secret World, where there was essentially just one big skill tree with like 8 sub-sections, and you could use any 2 sub-sections at a time.
 
Each with their own equipment and skills.
 
The CD-ROM numbering speed is weird anyway, as you had "single spin" and "double spin" before 1x and 2x came around
 
@Powerlord 2X CD-ROMS were unbelievably slow. Even in PCs.
 
@StrixVaria I found I actually disliked that amount of freedom.
 
And it saves all your settings, so no having to re setup all your keybinds and skills and crap every time you switch.
 
2:11 PM
So single spin would be... .25x and double spin .5x ?
 
Too much decision making too early on.
 
There's even some skills that you can use cross-class, which makes other classes much more useful.
 
But, I gave TSW the $200 lifetime fee
So they'd never know I disapprove.
 
@Koviko It's a tradeoff. It's good to have very few meaningful decisions early in the game as you're figuring out what you're doing, but it's good to have a bigger depth of strategic build choices when you get further along in the game.
 
@StrixVaria Yup. I believe that if I can get past the initial hump I'd really enjoy that game more
 
2:13 PM
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I like their character customization. Not during create-a-character, but after.
 
Yay, the IE11 installer is about to run.
It's going to fail as I already have IE11, but still...
and now it wants to reboot...
 
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Q: Are all planets conquerable?

user76176Just like the title says. Are all planets conquerable or are there also planets that cannot be conquered?

 
Oh good, the stars still work
was worried when there were no stars for 7 hours
 
@Batophobia Yeah, from 3am until 10am EST...
 
2:18 PM
@Unionhawk There's Arqade members in Europe
 
@Batophobia They're all boring.
 
Can't argue with that logic
 
@Unionhawk Filthy lies
 
@StrixVaria Do you still play TSW?
 
4 mins ago, by Batophobia
was worried when there were no stars for 7 hours
Therefore boring QED
 
2:21 PM
And/or to awesome for stars
 
Nope.
 
Well unfortunately, you are @Uni, and therefor wrong
 
@KevinvanderVelden Well, unfortunately, you've failed to generate stars until the North Americans came along.
So your argument is basically invalid.
 
@Frank What is meant by "alt-itis"
 
@GnomeSlice $130? Jesus. Listened to some of the first song, and I like it, but $130!? I wouldn't buy that just out of principle.
 
2:23 PM
@OrigamiRobot People keep making new characters, so that they can get all the jobs and try new things.
 
I know what an alt is, I just don't know what the -itis part is here.
 
@OrigamiRobot People with commitment issues. Or just curiosity.
 
The question is "what the hell does '-itis' mean, exactly"
 
@OrigamiRobot Nothing too serious, but a NPC got stuck somewhere where I couldn't turn in and I had to exit the game and restart to fix it, and then a certain area told me I had to wait for all players to be present even though I was the only one playing; had to go far enough away and come back and it fixed itself.
 
@Koviko No. I got it at launch and canceled my subscription before they charged me for it.
It was an experiment in MMO gameplay for me.
I still didn't like it.
 
2:24 PM
== English == === Etymology === From New Latin -itis, from Ancient Greek -ῖτις (-îtis, “pertaining to”). This is the feminine form of adjectival suffix -ίτης (-ítēs) because it was used with the feminine noun νόσος (nósos, “disease”), particularly with ἀρθρῖτις (νόσος) (arthrîtis (nósos), “disease of the joints”) (one of the earliest English borrowings from which the suffix was extracted and abstracted). Humorous sense by generalization. === Suffix === -itis (pathology) Suffix denoting diseases characterized by inflammation, itself often caused by an infection. (humorous) Used to form ...
 
@TimStone Good. I am getting a cavity filled and my flu shot today so I am looking forward to some non-terribleness later.
@5pike har har
 
@OrigamiRobot Yeah, minus those minor issues it's a lot of fun so far
 
Who did you roll?
 
2:26 PM
It seems like it's going to be fun ONCE I HAVE A GODDAMN MOUSE TO PLAY IT WITH T_T
 
@TimStone @OrigamiRobot What game?
 
@OrigamiRobot I went with Athena
 
@StrixVaria BL1.5
 
(I couldn't wait and tried to play it without. needless to say it didn't work too well.)
 
@OrigamiRobot Oh of course.
 
2:26 PM
@Unionhawk I have a spare mouse I'd teleport over to you if I could.
 
I'm not getting that. I got BL2 and got bored before I finished it :(
 
@Unionhawk Like with a touchpad?
 
(it still worked, because it was the opening mission, but not well)
@OrigamiRobot Yep.
 
@Unionhawk You could try playing it on a DDR dancepad.
 
@Unionhawk IMPROVISATION -69 [= ] -68.9
 
2:27 PM
When I first got Borderlands, it wouldn't accept input from the mouse or keyboard and only let me interact using the dancepad.
 
@StrixVaria I got bored of BL2 after a couple hours.
 
@badp LEVEL UP
YUS
 
If I buy BL1.5 it will only be after I play through BL2.
 
TIL @StrixVaria and @Wipqozn are both monsters.
MONSTERS
 
I wanted to like it.
 
2:28 PM
I played through BL1 a few times, so I think I've had my fill of the BL formula for the time being.
 
@OrigamiRobot BAN THEM BOTH!
 
@OrigamiRobot I thought this was established at least yesterday.
@TimStone BUT @StrixVaria IS A MOD
 
Yea, the TIL part was a lie.
 
Literally everyone is literally a monster.
 
I'm a big liar liar pants on fire.
 
2:28 PM
Man, publishers really don't want me to get work done this month
 
@TimStone RIGHT
 
BL 1.5 now, Civ: Beyond Earth on the 24th, then Unity in November
 
I'm afraid this might actually become the new PAYDAY 2 that causes me to get nothing done.
 
What about Titanfall? Anyone a fan?
 
@Unionhawk That won't stop me!
 
2:29 PM
Btw, how to do I tag here?
 
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Q: Are dark troops practical to train at town hall 7?

SparowAt Town Hall 7, you get a Dark Barracks and Dark Elixir storage. However, you do not get a Dark Elixir drill. Without this collector, is it practical to train these troops?

 
@Koviko Do people still play that? I heard the community died off really quickly.
@Koviko you mean?
if so [tag\:like-this]
just without the \
 
@Wipqozn No idea. I played really hard at launch and then ESO was released and then I played that really hard at launch and then quit that and went back to .
 
[tag:TAGNAME]
 
:)
 
2:31 PM
:D
 
@TimStone How do the logistics of banning a mod work, anyway? Can they be banned but they can unban themselves, or does the system just say "no, that dude's a mod, banning him would be stupid"
 
I was all ready to purchase Beyond Earth on day 1 (which I never do), but then I noticed it is Windows only at release, so I guess I'll wait until the Mac version is ready.
 
@Unionhawk I say we find out.
 
[tag:[tag:am-i-doin-it-right?]]
 
@Unionhawk Hmm, I feel like someone tested this before but I forget the outcome.
 
2:31 PM
@JasonBerkan Beyond Earth is likely to be a some day I'll probably buth is purchase.
 
Yes.
 
I think I'll just wait until they release an expnsion or two. I've got Endless Legend for my 4X fix the time I need a fix.
 
@TimStone I feel like this was definitely tested before.
 
Is the #2 MMO in the world right now?
 
2:32 PM
@Wipqozn SYNTAX ERROR. I still play Alpha Centauri, so Beyond Earth is a no brainer.
 
@Koviko Not sure, but it is fairly popular from what I know.
 
@TimStone Sounds like we need more science to be done here
 
It was really popular on release.
Source: played it at release.
 
@TimStone Make me a mod and then try to ban me.
 
Quick, @fredley, say something so @TimStone can perform science on you.
 
2:34 PM
@JasonBerkan I tried play Alpha once, but I gave up after a few minutes because I was too tired to learn an old 4X.
 
(I feel like the system would probably say "no, that's dumb you can't ban a mod")
Given that one time @badp was flagged, couldn't be banned, but left for 30 minutes to do something else.
 
uuuuggggghhhhhhhhh I hate the dentist
Sharp things don't belong in my mouth
3
 
@Koviko WHat do you mean by "tag here"? reply to a specific message or use a ?
 
@Unionhawk on the site it's complicated: some places check if you're a mod before they check if you're suspended, or your reputation
 
@Arperum Like .
I know now, though.
 
2:37 PM
@OrigamiRobot I thought you hated the cobbler
 
@badp On chat?
 
Iunno.
 
As a web dev, I feel like anything that can be linked should be linked.
 
@Batophobia I don't get this joke.
 
@Koviko I seem to have forgotten to scroll down on chat.
 
2:38 PM
I last checked on the site a couple years ago before banning people involved paperwork and notifying people.
 
A web dev and a wiki contributor.
 
@OrigamiRobot shoes
 
@badp Wait, you're not kidding about that second half are you.
 
@Batophobia I still don't get it.
 
Yes, I know what a cobbler is.
Oh, because I hate shoes?
 
2:39 PM
@Batophobia ?
 
ding
@Unionhawk Yes it's also a food
 
@Unionhawk I might be exaggerating somewhat.
It was a change for good anyway.
 
Nah, that's not the guy who makes them's fault
 
@OrigamiRobot is capable of hating more than one thing. In fact, he excels at it.
4
 
That's really one of the main things he's good at.
 
2:40 PM
I hate hating multiple things.
 
But damn is he good at it.
 
Hating multiple things means each individual thing isn't getting the hate it deserves.
 
Hmm... point.
 
Which is all of it.
If I'm not hating it with all of my hate, it might get the idea that it's not terrible.
glares at @Wipqozn
 
@OrigamiRobot No worries, I'm well aware I'm not actually terrible and you guys are all just jealous of how fantastically fantastic I am.
 
2:43 PM
Anyway, I mostly hate the dentist because I am ashamed of not having gone in a long time.
 
@OrigamiRobot Yeah, that's where I'm at in my life atm :/
 
They will know and judge me
 
@OrigamiRobot I can't remember the last time I went to the dentist.
 
@OrigamiRobot Don't worry, we judge you at least 697 times a day
 
For... definitions of a long time being roughly 2 years iirc
 
2:44 PM
... Has to be at least 5 years.
 
@Unionhawk Probably 10 years for me.
 
@OrigamiRobot My word.
 
Damn. Okay.
:/
 
Not since high school, for sure
 
I strive to go to the dentist and eye doctor yearly.
 
2:45 PM
I didn't have insurance until recently!
 
In fact I probably will need to make an appointment for the dentist sometime soon.
 
And by that time, it was already a habit to not go.
 
@OrigamiRobot Oh, that makes more sense.
 
I'm still under my parent's insurance. So that's good news.
Man, becoming an adult who has to have his own insurance sounds like literally the worst thing ever.
I'm thinking about leaving this header as "Sample Text" for this stupid presentation. sigh but I probably shouldn't grumble grumble
 
Make it "Not Sample Text"
Show some effort.
 
2:48 PM
@Unionhawk change it to "Sample Header"
 
We have to do a presentation on shit we already covered in this class. Like, that takes pants-on-head-stupid to a whole new level.
 
And when I go get my flu shot and don't want to look at the needle going into my arm, they always make a big deal about it.
Like they try to make small talk to distract me.
 
@OrigamiRobot Stuff like that works for normal people, I think.
 
I don't care about knowing, I just don't want to see a piece of metal going into my skin.
 
@Wipqozn Uh, it's $8.36 CAD
 
2:50 PM
I wouldn't know, because all I can think about is not tensing up my arm when the needle happens, and inevitably the "not" gets lost in transmission.
 
The needle is so tiny.
What if I move and it breaks off in my skin?
 
@GnomeSlice it's 800 JPY for the digital album
 
@OrigamiRobot They don't break easily, they just bend.
 
Wait what
 
2:51 PM
I got 100+ dollars out of it at first =/
 
@OrigamiRobot But I totally can understand your fear.
 
@KevinvanderVelden Which converts to $8
 
27 secs ago, by Kevin van der Velden
I got 100+ dollars out of it at first =/
 
@KevinvanderVelden This is why google is the only way to do currency conversions.
 
Yay, damage control is so much fun.
 
2:52 PM
WolframAlpha works too, but it's got other things that make it less than desirable
 
Oh,I see what happened. I just searched for ¥800, which google took to mean the Chinese currency, which comes out to $130 US
 
@Unionhawk I believe I used google, can't seem to repeat it now, oh well
 
I don't know that I'd call it a fear, I just find it revolting.
 
> 800 Chinese Yuan equals 130.61 US Dollar
 
Metal does not belong in my body.
 
2:53 PM
@Wipqozn aah, that's what happened!
 
Having blood drawn is even more revolting.
 
Yuan and Yen are not the same currency...
 
I think they figured that out...
 
If you go to 'buy' on bandcamp, it shows you the currency conversion right there.
 
Eh?
 
2:56 PM
@OrigamiRobot ugh that's a gross thought
 
Things should not be that thin.
 
Welp, Shadow of Mordor has officially been speedran (any%: 2:25:19) - a lot of time to be saved in routing and glitch hunting.
Lots of RNG associated in the run as I see it
 
Lots of RNG in the game so that's not surprising
 
I never know how to feel about glitches in speedruns.
 
@Unionhawk Oh, interesting.
 
2:59 PM
It should be possible to minimize the RNG given an optimal route.
 
Part of me wants to say "No, they should only use their own skill"
But some of those glitches take a hell of a lot of skill to pull off
 
A lot of glitches require a lot of execution to pull off yeah
 
And some of the glitches like the OoT thing are fascinating.
 
@OrigamiRobot I think their is room for both, and I personally find it really fun to see the glitches people manage to come cross and take advantage of.
 
Like, wrong warps in OoT require you to count frames (which can be done with specific step patterns), and RBA is essentially memory editing.
 
3:00 PM
I'm not actively watching the speedrun community, but I like to watch the AGDQ (and whatever the other charity things are called)
 
I tend not to like glitches that take an hours long run and break the game in such a way that the whole run is now 2 minutes
 
I only just unlocked the ability to brand captains. And then tried to set some captain up to kill some other super immortal captain of near immortalness.
 
(those usually happen in 2d games)
(and yes this means I'm not a giant fan of OoT any%)
 
@Unionhawk Yea, it's a neat trick, but I wanna see the game.
 
Yeah, that's why I very much enjoyed seeing All Dungeons and 100% at AGDQ 2014
 
3:03 PM
I missed it :(
 
Wait, no, TP did All Dungeons, I think
I don't know
@OrigamiRobot There's a 100% OoT run scheduled for 2015
 
I will probably miss that too.
 
I think Majora's Mask 100% is happening too?
 
I always forget or am busy.
 
It's all up on YouTube
 
3:05 PM
hrm, MM 100% might be boring because of the Couple's Mask
 
Actually, I lied, it's any%, looks like a race.
100% comes down to getting things into a minimal number of day cycles (I think 3)
 
The Couple's Mask alone takes a full cycle.
I mean, you can do other stuff in that cycle too, but you don't get the mask until 5 minutes before the moon falls IIRC
 
Yeah, 100% adds quite a bit of time (any% is 1:28, 100% is 5:13, all masks is 2:43, glitchless is 2:59)
That's a pretty glitch-heavy run. Should be fun to see.
5 hours seems like a lot more than 3 cycles?
Yeah, 4 cycles
And it's 4 pretty packed cycles
I need to finish MM
 
3:21 PM
Actually, I can see why Spring recommends using Spring Boot... you can avoid having to modify web.xml using it.
@OrigamiRobot It's not just that, but there are a high number of things that can only be done at specific times.
 
An addition of roughly 4 hours is pretty on par for any% versus 100% in zelda
With the exception of OoT which adds - actually no, that one adds 4 hours too.
I expected that to be a much larger difference.
 
why the hell does steam think I've been playing 'Unreal Development Kit'?
 
@GnomeSlice It's been showing up for me, I was kind of wondering lol
 
@Unionhawk Like you've seen me playing it?
 
@GnomeSlice Some games made with UDK just show up as UDK
 
3:31 PM
@GnomeSlice Yep.
 
wat
 
What Steam games have you been playing lately?
 
it even has achievements
 
Tower of Guns springs to mind
 
which appear to be UT achieves
@SaintWacko haven't played that at all yet actually
I did play zombies on a plane through Steam yesterday, but it's not a steam game.
also it's not very good
 
3:33 PM
"I've had it with these motherf*cking zombies on this motherf*cking plane!"
 
It's kind of a fun idea, but it would be better suited on my tablet.
 
There's a zombie on the wing of the plane! WHY WON'T ANYBODY BELIEVE ME!
 
that's the only UDK game I can think of, and I'm pretty sure I didn't play it for 1.8 hours. And it's not even a Steam game.
 
Maybe it used the Steam version of UDK even though it's not a steam game?
Iunno
 
the exe is just named UDK.exe
I dunno
 
3:39 PM
¯\(°_o)/¯
 
Weird.
On an unrelated note, this looks pretty interesting:
 
Mmmm, KSP .25
 
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Q: Making potash from lye or ash

Mauricio Pasquier JuanIs there any difference (besides the obvious extra production step) when making potash from lye (produced from ash) or making it directly from ash?

 
also
> A space station simulation roguelike-like strategy game. Inspired by Babylon 5 and Faster Than Light.
 
anyone get borderlands TPS?
 
3:48 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz I did not plan my TAH listening (while at work) marathon very well. I can't download from iTunes at work, nerdist.com doesn't seem to have all the episodes (and if they do, it's not organized well), and I don't want to deal with RSS.
 
> roguelike-like
 
lol
 
@BenBrocka Have to wait for 2 more days.
 
@BenBrocka Purchased, I don't think it's installed yet (should have done that last night), and obviously haven't played it yet.
 
10 hours ago, by Tim Stone
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3:48 PM
The video doesn't show any gameplay, but it's very well produced... definitely has my interest.
 
Err I mean yes
 
@BenBrocka Not yet
 
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Q: Out of people idk

NicI have killed 9 people on the boethia quest, and I've killed all the cultist. Now, having no one left to kill, boethia still will not appear, talk about frustrating, what do I need to do now?

 
@BenBrocka Yep.
 
@Lazers this made me lol
 
3:53 PM
@Koviko Out of lols idk
 
I want a script that detects when I click on elderscrolls.wikia and automatically redirects me to the appropriate UESP page.
 
@SaintWacko Haha this also made me lol
 
@Lazers The worst part is that I actually know what they're talking about.
 
@Unionhawk I used something similar to redirect all wowwiki links to wowpedia
 
I think I have you guys added already, right?
 
3:58 PM
I'm not certain, let me check
 

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